What an awesome furball! I usually just panics out and do something stupid in such scenarios. First time in months I actually want to play this game again, it has been too long. Too bad nobody plays it anymore :( Those pups sure are fragile! I remember doing an S turn in one of those at a shallow dive, tore the wings right off! xD
Wowsers...those Pups fold up like tissue paper. O_O Very nice gameplay footage. =) I'm just starting with this game and I'm curious; how does the Pfalz D.III compare to other German fighters like the Albatros D.Va and Fokker Dr.I?
Out of the three you mentioned, I'd have to say that the Albatros D.Va is the more balanced of the bunch in terms of maneuverability, speed, and visibility. The Pfalz D.III is good but suffers from bad visibility IMO, as the wing is near eye level in your forward field of view. The Dr.I is just too dainty for my tastes. I hope you enjoy the game! I'm just getting into it myself. Multiplayer is MUCH more challenging than single player, but you'll still get a nice adrenaline rush if you try out the campaign.
Baron Kobayashi I see; thank you for the reply. =) I was curious because many sources mention structural weakness in the Albatros D.III/D.Va and state that the Pfalz D.III--while slower in level flight--could dive and turn at high speed without risk. Is that the case in-game?
I personally like the pfalz dIIIa the most of said aircraft. It has the best dive speed by far and is quite maneuverable if you remember to use your rudder. For fast turns pull up in a slight roll into the turn and kick hard rudder. Basically a modified hammerhead turn.
***** I prefer it too, it can hang on its propeller and have great low speed handling which is great as it bleeds energy very quickly. You can fight against a Camel for a few turns but you will likely be overwhelmed soon as the Camel withholds energy much better. Ofc a really bad Camel pilot will just stall out during such maneuvers, (personal experience).
Supercalle10 I have found ways of dealing with even experienced camel pilots whilst utilizing the DIIIa. First off I don't get into a flat turning fight to begin with (gives them the advantage). While it is a challenge at times; I find that forcing them into a scissor is the best option in a altitude sensitive fight. If the camel dives I go into a shallow climbing hard turn inside theirs before diving on and rake the top of the aircraft as they come back up. If the camel climbs into a turn; I dive slightly going out side of the turn before pulling up into the aircraft and raking the soft underbelly or empennage. When fighting a camel the point is not to deliver a decisive blow with your initial attack but to wound it badly enough to finish it off with your second or third volley. Once wounded they become quite a bit more dosile. For anyone attempting these techniques I would suggest practicing on AI's (in "ACE" configuration) first to get an idea of the timing before flying other experienced players in camels. It take a good bit of skill, but so does being a camel pilot. ;-)
LGK Not all of them ;), I love my Pups, they are excellent airplanes, same with the SE5a and Pfalz III, those three are easily my favorite World War I aircraft.
Yar, the D.III is one of my favorites as well. From what I've read It was disliked by many of its pilots, but it works well enough in-game and, honestly, there's just something about its aesthetics that really pleases me. My absolute favorite aircraft of the era is definitely the Junkers J.I though. I really hope they decide to add it to the game someday.
chris blaikie ok cause i am used to using the mouse in war thunder also why are the mg so weak in this game? you shoot them so much and after 200 rounds(estimating) you can rip the wing off
Small calibre guns,planes mostly empty space (just holes in canvas damage) but perhaps most important- look up how to centre guns/sight on forums (many bullets possibly not hitting where you think) - I'm new to this too though : )
Nice flying, though it strikes me that a WWI plane wouldn't have had that amount of ammunition. Maybe I'm overestimating the length/number of your bursts, but I thought they had c. 30 seconds-worth of firing, in total.
The issue Spandau MG fired 450 rpm, but up to 600 rpm if fitted with a muzzle booster. The Albatross had a standard combat load of 500 rounds per gun, which would give a minimum total firing time of 50 seconds, & a max of 66 seconds. While those are the real world stats, some games have an "unlimited ammo" option available in the menu, which may be the case here.
Some of the planes, except for Nieuport 28 (AGAIN!!!), had their FMs modified. So now it's actually possibly to outturn Albies in Pup, Triplane and Nieuport 17. As for Dfalz D3a: 5. Adjusted: Pfalz D.3a FM - Reduced of turn rate 6. Adjusted: Pfalz D.3a FM - Speed increased
1. The damage system is not balanced for what feels right, it's an accurate simulation of the durability of the aircraft. These kites couldn't handle much stress and a few rounds could be enough to rip the wings off in a combination with air pressure. (depending on aircraft) 2. Again the aim was historical accuracy so the kites are roughly as good as they were, which means one side will have an advantage over the other depending on what time period you are participating in. (most servers have a set time period where you can choose from a variety of aircrafts available). That being said it's a skill focused game, the better you are, the better the odds of winning. :)
Well, you should know that most, if not all WW1 aircraft are built with wooden frames, covered with canvas or wooden fuselage. The engines back in the day couldn't handle much. Such material doesn't stand up too well against gun fire. There doesn't seem to be any incendiary ammunition in this game so you're actually looky that no one can ignite your entire airframe. WW1 aircraft are also extremely agile, a few rounds can destroy them but don't underestimate the act of actually getting on someones six. Also, the German planes were pretty damn good. Back then it was the only nation who, before the war started, that aircraft could fulfill a combat role and were one of the first to operate fighter and bomber aircraft. Manfred von Richthofen, aka The Red Baron, was a good pilot, but his plane, the Dutch/German designed Fokker dr.1 was just as good. When it was introduced, the Allies spoke of the 'Fokker Scourge' for a while because none of their planes could defeat it. Mind you, airplanes also had only existed 6 years when WW1 started. 6 years! Before WW1 it was all Wright Flyers and Man-powered Ornithopters.
TheSovjetCat Actually, the Fokker Scourge was from mid-1915 to early-1916, and was the result of the Fokker E.III Eindecker being the only airplane at the time fitted with a synchronized machine gun. British planes were being shot from the sky by pilots in the Eindecker almost faster than they could be replaced. The Fokker Scourge ended when the Nieuport 11 and Airco DH2 were developed, and evened the playing field. Other than that, your post is spot on!!
That last victory was the ultimate RoF "Holy S***!" moment.
hahaha. Yes it was. Mouth like ---> D:
Nice! Good tactics and fire discipline.
What an awesome furball! I usually just panics out and do something stupid in such scenarios. First time in months I actually want to play this game again, it has been too long. Too bad nobody plays it anymore :( Those pups sure are fragile! I remember doing an S turn in one of those at a shallow dive, tore the wings right off! xD
If you´d run out of ammo, you were close enough to smack the last plane´s pilot in the face.
what did you have on, the enemy planes made out of cardboard mode?
I counted 6, 4 Pups & 2 SE5a.
Whoever is fashioning the funeral wreaths for the Royal Flying Corps - he'll send you a card for X-mas...
The force is strong in this one...
This is like a dogfight mission.
Wowsers...those Pups fold up like tissue paper. O_O Very nice gameplay footage. =)
I'm just starting with this game and I'm curious; how does the Pfalz D.III compare to other German fighters like the Albatros D.Va and Fokker Dr.I?
Out of the three you mentioned, I'd have to say that the Albatros D.Va is the more balanced of the bunch in terms of maneuverability, speed, and visibility. The Pfalz D.III is good but suffers from bad visibility IMO, as the wing is near eye level in your forward field of view. The Dr.I is just too dainty for my tastes.
I hope you enjoy the game! I'm just getting into it myself. Multiplayer is MUCH more challenging than single player, but you'll still get a nice adrenaline rush if you try out the campaign.
Baron Kobayashi
I see; thank you for the reply. =)
I was curious because many sources mention structural weakness in the Albatros D.III/D.Va and state that the Pfalz D.III--while slower in level flight--could dive and turn at high speed without risk. Is that the case in-game?
I personally like the pfalz dIIIa the most of said aircraft. It has the best dive speed by far and is quite maneuverable if you remember to use your rudder. For fast turns pull up in a slight roll into the turn and kick hard rudder. Basically a modified hammerhead turn.
***** I prefer it too, it can hang on its propeller and have great low speed handling which is great as it bleeds energy very quickly. You can fight against a Camel for a few turns but you will likely be overwhelmed soon as the Camel withholds energy much better. Ofc a really bad Camel pilot will just stall out during such maneuvers, (personal experience).
Supercalle10 I have found ways of dealing with even experienced camel pilots whilst utilizing the DIIIa. First off I don't get into a flat turning fight to begin with (gives them the advantage). While it is a challenge at times; I find that forcing them into a scissor is the best option in a altitude sensitive fight. If the camel dives I go into a shallow climbing hard turn inside theirs before diving on and rake the top of the aircraft as they come back up. If the camel climbs into a turn; I dive slightly going out side of the turn before pulling up into the aircraft and raking the soft underbelly or empennage. When fighting a camel the point is not to deliver a decisive blow with your initial attack but to wound it badly enough to finish it off with your second or third volley. Once wounded they become quite a bit more dosile. For anyone attempting these techniques I would suggest practicing on AI's (in "ACE" configuration) first to get an idea of the timing before flying other experienced players in camels. It take a good bit of skill, but so does being a camel pilot. ;-)
Outstanding.
Great flying! Was this multiplayer? The SE5as and trying to turn fight when they really can't.
Those were Sopwith Pups; turn fighting is what they excelled at. :P
LGK Not all of them ;), I love my Pups, they are excellent airplanes, same with the SE5a and Pfalz III, those three are easily my favorite World War I aircraft.
Yar, the D.III is one of my favorites as well. From what I've read It was disliked by many of its pilots, but it works well enough in-game and, honestly, there's just something about its aesthetics that really pleases me.
My absolute favorite aircraft of the era is definitely the Junkers J.I though. I really hope they decide to add it to the game someday.
@@LordGrandKaiser Deflection shooting. Advantage gained by the gyroscopic forces generated by those rotary engines! Depends which direction..
Hi Baron,this is the same Rise Of Flight United or not??
Yes it is. Same game, just on Steam it gets "United" subtitle.
Is the game only played from cockpit view or is there also Wonder Woman view? Also is it joystick, mouse, or both? Thanks.
Just first person and joystick only.
Inigo Montoya
seriously no mouse control?
Leonardo Franzin Ribeiro
There is mouse control now but joystick is better (fun).
chris blaikie
ok cause i am used to using the mouse in war thunder also why are the mg so weak in this game? you shoot them so much and after 200 rounds(estimating) you can rip the wing off
Small calibre guns,planes mostly empty space (just holes in canvas damage) but perhaps most important- look up how to centre guns/sight on forums (many bullets possibly not hitting where you think)
- I'm new to this too though : )
Some brutal deaths.
Wat is het name van het game
Pretty nice flying.
Nice flying, though it strikes me that a WWI plane wouldn't have had that amount of ammunition. Maybe I'm overestimating the length/number of your bursts, but I thought they had c. 30 seconds-worth of firing, in total.
The issue Spandau MG fired 450 rpm, but up to 600 rpm if fitted with a muzzle booster. The Albatross had a standard combat load of 500 rounds per gun, which would give a minimum total firing time of 50 seconds, & a max of 66 seconds. While those are the real world stats, some games have an "unlimited ammo" option available in the menu, which may be the case here.
If only my joystick was that smooth...
GravityForce19 Try turning your joystick resistance up far, that does the trick.
looks like the bullets deal much too damage
Well, now after 1.034 update, I guess it wouldn't be that easy for You.
I haven't played it for a few months and may take up on it again. What have they changed/added/taken away?
Some of the planes, except for Nieuport 28 (AGAIN!!!), had their FMs modified. So now it's actually possibly to outturn Albies in Pup, Triplane and Nieuport 17. As for Dfalz D3a:
5. Adjusted: Pfalz D.3a FM - Reduced of turn rate
6. Adjusted: Pfalz D.3a FM - Speed increased
Not bad XD
1. Too easy. A few hits in a wing and the wing breaks off?
2. Is everyone flying German planes? Are they easier to fly or what? I hate the bastards.
1. The damage system is not balanced for what feels right, it's an accurate simulation of the durability of the aircraft. These kites couldn't handle much stress and a few rounds could be enough to rip the wings off in a combination with air pressure. (depending on aircraft)
2. Again the aim was historical accuracy so the kites are roughly as good as they were, which means one side will have an advantage over the other depending on what time period you are participating in. (most servers have a set time period where you can choose from a variety of aircrafts available). That being said it's a skill focused game, the better you are, the better the odds of winning. :)
May I remind you that these were basically "paper planes" with guns slapped on the front...
Well, you should know that most, if not all WW1 aircraft are built with wooden frames, covered with canvas or wooden fuselage. The engines back in the day couldn't handle much. Such material doesn't stand up too well against gun fire. There doesn't seem to be any incendiary ammunition in this game so you're actually looky that no one can ignite your entire airframe.
WW1 aircraft are also extremely agile, a few rounds can destroy them but don't underestimate the act of actually getting on someones six.
Also, the German planes were pretty damn good. Back then it was the only nation who, before the war started, that aircraft could fulfill a combat role and were one of the first to operate fighter and bomber aircraft. Manfred von Richthofen, aka The Red Baron, was a good pilot, but his plane, the Dutch/German designed Fokker dr.1 was just as good. When it was introduced, the Allies spoke of the 'Fokker Scourge' for a while because none of their planes could defeat it.
Mind you, airplanes also had only existed 6 years when WW1 started.
6 years! Before WW1 it was all Wright Flyers and Man-powered Ornithopters.
TheSovjetCat
Actually, the Fokker Scourge was from mid-1915 to early-1916, and was the result of the Fokker E.III Eindecker being the only airplane at the time fitted with a synchronized machine gun. British planes were being shot from the sky by pilots in the Eindecker almost faster than they could be replaced. The Fokker Scourge ended when the Nieuport 11 and Airco DH2 were developed, and evened the playing field.
Other than that, your post is spot on!!
Wings breaking off in a few hits doesn't make it easy. You've gotta remember it's just as easy for them to break yours off...