Masters of the Air Clip - “Battle of Münster” (2024)

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  • Опубликовано: 23 фев 2024
  • Watch the official clip from Masters of the Air! Streaming on AppleTV+ January 26, 2024.
    During World War II, airmen risk their lives with the 100th Bomb Group, a brotherhood forged by courage, loss, and triumph.
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  • @karenosborn116
    @karenosborn116 2 месяца назад +227

    My dad was a co-pilot of a B-17 in WWII. At 22, he lived through the action we’re seeing on screen. The losses were heavy. He flew 30+ missions, where you only had to do 25 to go home. He didn’t
    talk about the war much, except to say that he could eat breakfast with a fellow soldier, and then the guy wasn’t there the next day because he died in action.😢 I am proud to have his Distinguished Flying Cross. I’ll treasure it always ❤️🇺🇸

    • @user-bk6gc7sl9z
      @user-bk6gc7sl9z 2 месяца назад +1

      wow

    • @przemysawzegarek7198
      @przemysawzegarek7198 2 месяца назад +7

      thanks to people like him, now me and my family can live in a free country 🇵🇱 I really appreciate all those heroes sacrifice.

    • @GachaBj
      @GachaBj 2 месяца назад +2

      Is that a highest medal of all the medals? Wow, awesome, sorry for the lost of your grandfather. Rest in Peace

    • @johnwhalen9499
      @johnwhalen9499 2 месяца назад +8

      My dad was Flt engineer (top turret gunner) on B-17 and B-24's he did 33 missions. Hardly ever would talk about it.

    • @user-bk6gc7sl9z
      @user-bk6gc7sl9z 2 месяца назад +2

      @@johnwhalen9499 who cares

  • @RicdelCampo1
    @RicdelCampo1 Месяц назад +40

    This was Robert 'Rosie' Rosenthal and crew's third mission. After 4 aircraft from the 100th had turned back due to mechanical failures, 13 aircraft from the 100th proceeded to the target. Only one aircraft made it to the target and successfully returned to base: Rosenthal's aircraft. This was the beginning of Rosenthal's legend. There was enough story there that the whole mini-series could have been just about Rosenthal and his crews.

    • @CorePathway
      @CorePathway 10 дней назад

      Yeah, but we gotta shoehorn the Red Tails in here somehow.

  • @veteran20002001
    @veteran20002001 2 месяца назад +193

    The 109 pilot is going "Vot ist this pilot think he's flying, ein Spitfire?!!

    • @johnrion3232
      @johnrion3232 2 месяца назад

      Nein vulfgang… vee have named ze flug afta ein frau garten

    • @veteran20002001
      @veteran20002001 2 месяца назад

      @@johnrion3232 Frau garten?

    • @Dreagostini
      @Dreagostini 2 месяца назад +3

      @@johnrion3232 You don't have to "germanise" Wolfgang. It's already a german name.

    • @scottyb68
      @scottyb68 Месяц назад +6

      Actually the B-17 could be quite maneuverable. They only flew straight and level for defense formation and the bomb run. But the planes were new, well maintained and the pilots in the late teens and twenties. So with the bombs gone and no group a good pilot could do everything but loops.

    • @aidenwrenn5342
      @aidenwrenn5342 18 дней назад

      The B17 carried about the same bomb load as a Mosquito, hence very maneuverable in the hands of a skilled pilot once unloaded.

  • @HaltheLibertarian
    @HaltheLibertarian 2 месяца назад +164

    I didn't know this show existed. My father flew with the Bloody 100th and was shot down on the Munster raid. I've got to see this.

    • @AnthraciteHorrorStories
      @AnthraciteHorrorStories 2 месяца назад +11

      Hardcore man.

    • @kilroy3961
      @kilroy3961 Месяц назад +6

      Did you know that if you go on the 100th foundation website you could look him up in the personnel files. I’ve browsing it and looking up all the real people.

    • @ralfklonowski3740
      @ralfklonowski3740 Месяц назад +9

      My mother, around 11yo at the time, experienced the raid in a cellar. So we both had a parent on each end of the raid. I do hope your father made it home in good health.

    • @user-bk6gc7sl9z
      @user-bk6gc7sl9z Месяц назад

      wow

    • @markbraswell6768
      @markbraswell6768 Месяц назад

      @@ralfklonowski3740 That's really cool.

  • @charlieharper4975
    @charlieharper4975 2 месяца назад +82

    My uncle was a bombardier in Triangle A, same as portrayed here. He got shot down by German fighters on a bombing raid over Kassel, Germany. His 24th mission. He was 19. Joined up when he was 16. They were bombing the BMW fighter engine plant. The first run they didn't bomb because the target was hidden by a smoke screen. So they went around for a second run. The second run was always deadly for the airmen. But that was how they won the war - by just fighting it out.

  • @justinschrank4806
    @justinschrank4806 2 месяца назад +46

    This was the peak of the series

    • @leons.kennedy6710
      @leons.kennedy6710 2 месяца назад +3

      It was like a horror movie. Those poor guys.

  • @Mandolorian1001
    @Mandolorian1001 2 месяца назад +53

    The only reason my then teenage grandmother survived that raid was because she went into the wrong shelter.

  • @kevincheyne2735
    @kevincheyne2735 2 месяца назад +108

    They had fighter escorts but they only had enough fuel to protect them on part of the missions.Not till later like early 1944 did they get additional fuel tanks for Spitfires.I always remembered in Memphis Belle the guys saying goodbye "little friends" when they had to turn back.Unbielivable courage these men displayed!!

    • @andrewwaller5913
      @andrewwaller5913 2 месяца назад +15

      P-51 Mustangs were the game changer in 1944, to Berlin and back. Spitfires could go as far as northern France.

    • @fredlandry6170
      @fredlandry6170 2 месяца назад +2

      The P-51 came along later in the war and had the range to protect the Bombers.

    • @jameswells9403
      @jameswells9403 2 месяца назад

      Catch 22

    • @ericheuvel6369
      @ericheuvel6369 2 месяца назад +2

      Great Movie: Memphis Belle… No CGI! I’ve nothing against it…. Just saying.

    • @skillsphere9245
      @skillsphere9245 2 месяца назад +2

      It was first the p-47 that escorted the b-17's aka the "jugg" it was very well armoured, reliable, good sustain heavy damage still return home and had good fuel range escorting bombers i think even back and forth but..... the p-47 was far less agile and slower then the bf 109 and the focke wulfs around 43 44 so american airforce indeed incorporated the p-51 mustang but this was far later on heavy losses where already sustained due to the fact that even if the bombers had p-47 escorts they where to slow climbed slow and didnt stand a chance against an good bf 109 pilot german airforce was leading for years in technology . Then the p-51 came and later on also fuel tanks that fully covered the journey. The spitfire had the same rolls royce motor with 2000 horse power of rolls but the p51 was still faster, better build aurodynamically. The p-51 was for a while the fastest plane on the earth with a speed of 750km an hour + heavy armament and a fast climber high altitude escort bomber fighter toghether with the p-38 twing engine boom 2x roll royce motor. Wich also escorted a lot of b17 missions countering the bf 110 high altitude fighter. Only after the p51 and especially the p51 red tails black division. bomber missions suffered much less casualties the black division performed the best in defending bomber missions. So after the commisioning of the p51 i think in 44 or 43 correct me if im wrong bombers missions where mainly a mixture of p51-s p47-s and p-38's. But ofcourse spitfires hurricanes, tempests, sea fires, and lot of other british models probably have seen action.

  • @AB-rj7vh
    @AB-rj7vh 2 месяца назад +54

    To my knowledge it was very rare for a bomber crew to shoot down fighters. In this series every bomber gunner becomes an ace it seems, and on every mission too.

    • @tacticalclochard
      @tacticalclochard 2 месяца назад +14

      Yea, you're onto something here, e.g. during one of the Schweinfurth raids the Luftwaffe would lose around 20 to 40 fighters to all causes. So kills by bomber defensive machine guns were not exactly rare, but occurred much less than the show would have viewers believe.
      Over all, despite the suspiciously many, suspiciously enthusiastic reviews, I think the show is, very much like 'The Pacific' was, very badly written.

    • @alanjm1234
      @alanjm1234 2 месяца назад +11

      Yep, the reality is, the "Flying Fortress" concept failed. Not that it wasn't a successful bomber, but the idea of them being able to defend themselves against fighters just didn't pan out.
      After horrendous losses on the Schweinfurt raids, the Air Force suspended daylight bombing until long range fighter escorts became available.

    • @Bigrago1
      @Bigrago1 Месяц назад +6

      I only counted 8 German planes hit in this episode with what looked like half going down in flames, compared to the 25 confirmed to have been lost in the actual raid.
      In the episodes prior only 1 was hit in the opening of episode 1 and one smoking I the latter half, while in episode 2 only one was shot down and in episode 3 I counted 6 hit compared to 25-27 lost in the August 17 raid.

    • @thosdot6497
      @thosdot6497 Месяц назад +12

      Rare on a per-sortie basis maybe, but they routinely flew 500+ bombers per mission, several times per month - shooting down 20-40 per mission when you have 500 plus aircraft shooting at them is quite believable. The real problem is that each enemy fighter would have gunners from several bombers shooting at it, all claiming it when the first puffs of smoke appeared.

    • @peterruiz6117
      @peterruiz6117 Месяц назад +10

      It was not rare, but very difficult. Command thought it would be easy, and could not addmit that simply putting a gun at every corner would not make a bomber invinceable. How wrong they were. I read that some (?) crews shared each kill. Gen. Adolf Galland said that attacking a heavy bomber was very risky, and his method was to dive into the firmation from above. Only the top turret had a shot, but difficult one ,and it was the widest view of the bomber . He did say rookie German fighter pilots did not do well with his method, and collided alot. Mission accomplished.

  • @jacobklinger4830
    @jacobklinger4830 Месяц назад +14

    I had an uncle who flew in a Lancaster bomber for the RAF, and he was anything but a coward (like they were trying to portray them as in this show). His unit took incredible losses during the war, but they still got in those planes. I also had an American uncle who flew in a B17. I don't know what his MOS was in the plane, but the only thing he would ever say about the war was that one can not imagine the horror that you feel hearing your friends screaming as their planes fell out of the sky. He also commented to me once about how fanatical the German fighter pilots were. They were defending their homes, so who wouldn't be?
    All in all, these kids on both sides were brave, and they died like flies. War is a terrible thing. It pits one kid against another. They personally don't have a grudge against the other, but they have to fight to stay alive. I always treated our Iraqi prisoners with respect for this reason. They were doing what I would have done in their situation. These men came out to fight one of the best fighting forces in the world, and they did so with old and sometimes used up rifles. So they earned that respect.

  • @jasonharding96
    @jasonharding96 Месяц назад +4

    Other people: YOU CANT DOGFIGHT WITH A B-17
    This crew: Watch me

  • @jeffbosworth8116
    @jeffbosworth8116 2 месяца назад +61

    I aways wonder how much damage was done by "friendly fire" in those huge formations of bombers

    • @andrewwaller5913
      @andrewwaller5913 2 месяца назад +14

      Not as much as was done by Flak and fighters.

    • @asphaltmilkshake4596
      @asphaltmilkshake4596 2 месяца назад +26

      Can't remember exactly who said it but there's an interview with a German pilot where he talks about the tactics they used against bombers and how during a pass going through the middle of the formation was the safest place to be because the gunners wouldn't shoot for fear of hitting each other.

    • @vash42165
      @vash42165 2 месяца назад +7

      you would be surprised ammo casing dropping on another aircraft occured more often than friendly fires

    • @HuGenitals
      @HuGenitals 2 месяца назад +9

      The combat box was designed to minimize that, but with all hell breaking loose it did happen. When you add up all the other things, 50cal friendly fire was almost irrelevant when compared to 88mm flak, 20mm cannon from 109 and 190 or simply other forts blowing up and taking others in the formation with them.

    • @mauricemichiels6889
      @mauricemichiels6889 2 месяца назад +3

      I read less than .5%

  • @bobthebuilder2967
    @bobthebuilder2967 2 месяца назад +41

    Donald pleaseance the british actor flew 62 bombing missions for the raf ..before becoming an actor ...he played the forger in the film The great escape ...

    • @Mike91337
      @Mike91337 Месяц назад +3

      Splendid

    • @marianovaliente2103
      @marianovaliente2103 22 дня назад +1

      Un gran actor sin duda.un gran piloto le debemos mucho todos.hizo muy buenas películas 🎥 como muchos actores famosos por lo visto también lucho en la segunda guerra mundial..

    • @aidenwrenn5342
      @aidenwrenn5342 18 дней назад +4

      @@marianovaliente2103 Including Jimmy Stewart.

    • @PlymouthVT
      @PlymouthVT 16 дней назад +1

      Many of the actors in the Great Escape were in the service including Steve McQueen. Excellent movie.

    • @bobthebuilder2967
      @bobthebuilder2967 16 дней назад +1

      James garner was also in a bomber during ww2

  • @jooseppib1082
    @jooseppib1082 2 месяца назад +75

    It's insane to think that a lot of those guys where in their twenties when this happened

    • @rodbutler4054
      @rodbutler4054 2 месяца назад +15

      Some Pilots were only 19!

    • @adameckard4591
      @adameckard4591 2 месяца назад +1

      If they were that old, many were underage.

    • @dan3535351
      @dan3535351 2 месяца назад

      Teens

    • @danieleyre8913
      @danieleyre8913 Месяц назад

      @@dan3535351 A few were teenagers. But most were in their mid-to-late 20s.

    • @femtoeclipse860
      @femtoeclipse860 Месяц назад

      Many of the captains were only 21

  • @jessicabouchard1605
    @jessicabouchard1605 2 месяца назад +74

    Does anyone remember Memphis Bell?

    • @veteran20002001
      @veteran20002001 2 месяца назад +4

      Never forget!

    • @bdockett
      @bdockett 2 месяца назад +7

      It's on display at the National Museum of the US Air Force. Dayton. Its fully restored although probably not flyable. Anyone who likes aircraft should get to that museum at least once.

    • @pads-zr9ln
      @pads-zr9ln 2 месяца назад +3

      wore the tape out of that film

    • @KnightPilot
      @KnightPilot 2 месяца назад +2

      One of my favourite movies. Anyone know where it can be found today?

    • @miasma19
      @miasma19 2 месяца назад +1

      Grew up watching it with my dad, love that film and all the history surrounding these brave soldiers.

  • @ivansusanin_kolpino
    @ivansusanin_kolpino 5 дней назад

    This series is worthy of any awards.
    This is a requiem for the feat of all pilots and everyone involved in the feat.
    And it doesn’t matter who it is, Americans, British, French, Russians. Their feat in the fight against fascism is priceless and eternal!

  • @602.Juggalo
    @602.Juggalo 2 месяца назад

    I like how they added the bits and pieces of the down places falling. I don’t remember seeing that in other movies alike

  • @jamesharness1828
    @jamesharness1828 5 дней назад +3

    Who fixed the wing mid flight? One minute there is a hole in the wing and then at 3 min 57 sec in the clip it has gone / repaired?

  • @alvarvillalongamarch3894
    @alvarvillalongamarch3894 День назад

    Brave kids:just taking everything thrown at them.Real heroes they were!God bless them all.

  • @pandaenergiasolar7228
    @pandaenergiasolar7228 2 дня назад

    I imagine what these soldiers felt when they saw their friends get hit and their plane fall into pieces.
    I believe it was a feeling of fear and a rage to overthrow one's enemies. I believe that those who lived through the war had several psychological problems in the rest of their lives.

  • @pyrolopez854
    @pyrolopez854 2 месяца назад +55

    This episode hit me hard couldn't believe what those guys went through let alone such actually happen especially how many came back from the mission

    • @ironnads7975
      @ironnads7975 2 месяца назад +8

      It didn't go down like this....this is very hollywooded up

    • @Novice127__
      @Novice127__ 2 месяца назад

      What was it like @@ironnads7975

    • @Folgeantrag
      @Folgeantrag 2 месяца назад +11

      ​@@ironnads7975 it is an accurate depiction. This shows the Air Raid on Muenster on the 10 Oktober 1943. The 100th Bombardment Group was a part of. They started with 13 B17 in England. 12 were shot down. Only one came back. The bloody Hundred lost 177 Airplanes during the war, so the whole unit was destroyed several times. The 8th USAAF lost over 5100 Airplanes during the war more than 26000 of their airmen were killed in action.

    • @yorgonosch7225
      @yorgonosch7225 2 месяца назад +4

      ⁠@@Folgeantrag
      The numbers might be matching but this is everything but a “accurate depiction” 110% Hollywood 😂

    • @dac5782
      @dac5782 2 месяца назад

      ​@@yorgonosch7225 You can read about "Royal Flush" if you're unconvinced, but it did actually happen. You can also read about "Old 666", I believe it went through similar circumstances against around 17 Zeros.

  • @a.j.laplace4216
    @a.j.laplace4216 2 месяца назад +20

    What got me here is how they see one plane ignite, explode, slam into the other one and all you can do is watch. Also, how badly they want the relief of seeing parachutes.

    • @HeartFeltGesture
      @HeartFeltGesture 2 месяца назад +4

      Its more that they need to mark the position if any parachutes are seen, for rescue missions, but yes relief also.

    • @noneofyourbusiness9489
      @noneofyourbusiness9489 5 дней назад

      @@HeartFeltGesture What? Rescue missions were not a thing. They wanted to see if their buddies had survived.

    • @HeartFeltGesture
      @HeartFeltGesture 5 дней назад

      @@noneofyourbusiness9489 "They wanted to see if their buddies had survived." Yes, to make note of their position at the time of any parachute sightings, for POSSIBLE rescue, no body knows if will or can be done but you record the bloody information at the time in the eternal hope that you can tey to save everyone so you do your best even if its hopeless, so you take note of the position and radio in the situation and pray to whatever makes sense to you that all ends well....

    • @noneofyourbusiness9489
      @noneofyourbusiness9489 5 дней назад

      @@HeartFeltGesture You're historically ignorant. What rescue? You think they were deploying SAR helicopters in WW2? If you went down in German occupied territory, your only hope was local resistance groups. There was nothing the allies could do for you.

    • @HeartFeltGesture
      @HeartFeltGesture 5 дней назад

      @@noneofyourbusiness9489 There were a couple of sleeper cells posing as farmers in a nearby village, they had made a radio out of dung and some odd n ends, they heard the call with the coordinates and took in the injured pilot, and made him hot beef soup with hunks of sourdough and butter.

  • @BOBMAX68
    @BOBMAX68 2 месяца назад +11

    Comparing this to show Band of Brothers or The Pacific is chalk and cheese.
    Perhaps viewing the Battle of Britain from the British perspective would carry more weight.

    • @avrracer4175
      @avrracer4175 2 месяца назад

      😂😂😂nö denn die Engländer wollten den Krieg oder warum ist Churchill auf Hitlers Gesuch nicht eingegangen, das Churchill zwischen Polen und dem Dritten Reich nicht vermitteln wollte ??
      England, Polen, Frankreich und die USA sind am Krieg genauso schuldig eigentlich die Schuldigen !

  • @PlymouthVT
    @PlymouthVT 2 месяца назад +2

    Holy shit the pieces of the 2 bombers that collided just floating down around them that was f'ing spooky as hell.

  • @billybupkis3688
    @billybupkis3688 3 дня назад

    My Grandfather was a B-17 master crew chief in the Mighty 8th. He had 7 planes during the war. That's because 6 didn't come back. 60 Men. It wasn't something he talked much about.

  • @JuanAppleseed-ge6tb
    @JuanAppleseed-ge6tb 2 месяца назад +9

    Seeing those metal pieces fall calmly through the sky is similar to when you're in Afghanistan, and all of a sudden, all of the locals disappear, everything gets quiet, you're not getting shot at and there are no explosions.
    It's the real-life version of "boss music" from a video game.
    Everything is calm right now. It won't be for very long.

  • @btuesday
    @btuesday 10 дней назад

    I know an elderly German woman from Munster. She was visiting her daughter in Kentucky about 30 years ago. One of the neighbors came over and said. "You're from Munster? I was a gunner during the war. We bombed Munster" She was not pleased

  • @ricardocorbie6803
    @ricardocorbie6803 18 дней назад

    I loved this series!! CG or not! Most closest thing to being on those missions I will ever get to!! ❤

  • @eldermaxon697
    @eldermaxon697 2 месяца назад +1

    POV: Me and the boise practicing beginner maneuvers for our PPL and there is a single traffic nowhere near us

  • @tank3532
    @tank3532 2 месяца назад +23

    Brutal battle. Insane evasive flying.

    • @ironnads7975
      @ironnads7975 2 месяца назад +8

      Not even close to realistic

    • @dac5782
      @dac5782 2 месяца назад +4

      ​@@ironnads7975 Likely dramatized, but it was something that actually happened with that individual bomber (though I've heard the scene was actually toned down, so who knows, I guess).

    • @idlzruf
      @idlzruf 2 месяца назад

      Look up Ole 666 it happened in the pacific

    • @jordan6049
      @jordan6049 2 месяца назад +9

      @@ironnads7975You are so wrong lol.

    • @wolfsigma
      @wolfsigma 2 месяца назад +2

      @@idlzrufTrue... but that was a heavily modified bomber that didn't have a full bomb load (it was on a photo recon mission) and was at much lower altitude. To fly a B-17 around like that at high altitude and with a full bomb load goes way past what the air-frame could do.

  • @joseluisnewyork8832
    @joseluisnewyork8832 2 месяца назад +5

    Remember, a young Charles Bronson was like one of those guys, after bombing Germany during WWII he got their unexpressive eyes.

    • @CraigWilliams-gg7sm
      @CraigWilliams-gg7sm 19 дней назад

      Charles Bronson was a gunner on a B29. Being on a B17 was cold. Your oxygen mask would freeze up do to the cold, if one of your buddies was seriously wounded somebody had to make sure is mask didn't freeze up. You shot your guns in short burst to prevent over heating of the barrel. You had only one minute to take your glove off if you changed out your barrel. After that your hand was too cold to do any work. The top gunner had to be careful no to shoot the tail off the plane. If he did the pilot had to use the engine thrust of each wing to guide back to England. It was important to keep communication open and not hog the radio. When you got back to base bring out the two inch hose.

  • @RommelsAsparagus
    @RommelsAsparagus 11 дней назад

    Rosenthal is a legend. He dogfights and beats multiple BF-109s in a B-17.

  • @michaelhaines3451
    @michaelhaines3451 2 месяца назад +11

    Not detracting from the bravery of the bomber crews AT ALL... but we had a B-17 crewman who completed 25 missions speak at our school back in the '80s. He told us he never fought Geman fighter planes. He saw them in the distance a couple times, but they never engaged. He did mention how terrible the flak was, and they lost some planes that way. Yes, I've seen the gun camera footage of German fighters shooting down B-17s, so I know it did happen, I just wonder if it was a common event.

    • @samd8669
      @samd8669 2 месяца назад +9

      It was pretty common in 42 and 43 when Germany actually had pilots. A lot of the guys who flew missions for the first two years would have faced hoardes of enemy fighters, but by the time the war was ending German planes in the sky were basically nonexistent. A relative of mine took part in the 8th Air Force's very first bombing mission on July 4 1942. On that mission, the cockpit of his B-17 took a direct hit from a Fw 190's 20mm cannon, killed co pilot and severely injured the pilot. They were shot down a few weeks later by another 190.

    • @TheMinipily
      @TheMinipily 2 месяца назад +2

      Where you are in the formation and where your bomber group may be in the whole bombing raid can pay a huge part. He may have found himself getting quite lucky with his plane not being in the most dangerous positions.

    • @bmused55
      @bmused55 2 месяца назад +8

      That vet had it easy, must have been late 1944 or sometime in 45 he flew his missions. In 1942 and 1943 the bombers had a rough time as they had no escort.
      It is also historically accurate that the entire squadron bar one plane was shot down on this mission. 13 entered German airspace only 1 came back. It was that brutal.

    • @avrracer4175
      @avrracer4175 2 месяца назад

      ​@@bmused55warum brutal ?? Wenn deine Heimat angegriffen wird dann wird Kampf und Verteidigung zur Pflicht... Ich möchte nur an Dresden 45 erinnern oder Hamburg oder Lübeck oder Bremen oder oder wo die Kranken GIs bewusst Brandbomben geworfen haben und so 90% der Städte komplett unbrauchbar wurden....
      Umso mehr zeigt es wenn Deutsche in Frieden gelassen werden was daraus erwachsen kann. Kultur, Bildung, Wissen!!!

    • @thosdot6497
      @thosdot6497 Месяц назад +3

      There are a number of verified accounts of the Luftwaffer putting up 200 and 300 fighters in massed attacks - if you were at the front of the formation you would definitely have seen them!

  • @Izzyduude
    @Izzyduude 2 месяца назад +13

    1:13 even not in slo mo this must have been surreal seeing chunks of B-17 falling all around them.

    • @guts-141
      @guts-141 2 месяца назад +2

      Due to their weights being lighter. It falls a lot slower

    • @ironnads7975
      @ironnads7975 2 месяца назад +7

      Not even realistic

    • @miltiade2510
      @miltiade2510 2 месяца назад

      Great show ​@@ironnads7975

    • @alexwilliamson1486
      @alexwilliamson1486 2 месяца назад

      @@ironnads7975so what was it like flying in the daylight campaign 1942-45? …..hello?…anyone?…..🤡

  • @user-nm8sk9jy1v
    @user-nm8sk9jy1v Месяц назад

    He no longer must stay in formation. Fights back.

  • @dimasharry9664
    @dimasharry9664 Месяц назад +1

    One of the best clip ever 🔥🔥🔥

  • @joshu8263
    @joshu8263 2 месяца назад +3

    Feels a Bit Like the wolfenstein intro

  • @karakorum2007
    @karakorum2007 Месяц назад +1

    This scene and the entire story is very emotional, just think all those brave guys were not older than 25 years old. It is the best series I have seen for a long time, and based on true facts.

  • @wolfganggugelweith8760
    @wolfganggugelweith8760 День назад +1

    The Germans were not the enemies!

  • @rsookchand919
    @rsookchand919 2 месяца назад

    No matter the side, war is absolute hell

  • @jameswoolley7421
    @jameswoolley7421 2 месяца назад +12

    THEY SAY HELL IS 5 MILE UP

  • @bmused55
    @bmused55 2 месяца назад +1

    The musical sting as the B-17 flies away from the camera revealing it was all alone, it's like a reveal in a horror movie. Normally this was a death sentence.
    For anyone commenting that a B-17 would never be able to make those manoeuvres, and that the scene is unrealistic: check yourselves. This happened. By all accounts the manoeuvres we see in the show are toned down a little. Both Rosenthal and his co-pilot had to wrestle the controls to make their B-17 fly like it did. The tactic worked, they got home.
    The only positive thing about not being in a formation is you can manoeuvre to make yourself a hard target. Had Rosenthal still had another bomber in formation with him at this point, I doubt either would have made it as they would have been forced to fly straight and in tight formation.

  • @matejs2638
    @matejs2638 2 месяца назад +22

    "When airplane engines fall to the ground, it's like a piece of paper."

    • @stevetheduck1425
      @stevetheduck1425 2 месяца назад +3

      Photographic evidence shows that engines separated from the bomber, in a fireball, were still running.
      Here on YT, look up Nike missile B-17 test.

    • @bmused55
      @bmused55 2 месяца назад +5

      It's called artistic license. The director is trying to convey the moment of horror, seeing bits of bombers falling all around you.

    • @wakka4211
      @wakka4211 Месяц назад +3

      ​@@bmused55Whatever you call it, it looked ridiculous

    • @rikk319
      @rikk319 Месяц назад

      @@wakka4211 I'm guessing you don't know the meaning of the word drama, or expect every film to be a staid documentary.

    • @wakka4211
      @wakka4211 Месяц назад +1

      @@rikk319 you aren't supposed to change the laws of physics to make something dramatic. It looks absolutely ridiculous. Tons of the CGI in this show was completely ridiculous in the way planes moved. It was awful

  • @daffidkane8350
    @daffidkane8350 5 дней назад +1

    Madness! Stupidity! Waste! And yet we do it over and over again! Two uncles in RAF. I had one uncle fly fighters in the Battle of Britain who was sent to the front line after one solo flight. He lived. Another uncle flew in bombers and was shot down over the Mediterranean. MIA.

  • @sigmaway5717
    @sigmaway5717 2 месяца назад +78

    Adults: amazing show to understand what those men did for our freedom
    Kids: CGI is bad

    • @TheAmericanKid94
      @TheAmericanKid94 2 месяца назад +12

      I mean, it is though.

    • @michaelgarcia4035
      @michaelgarcia4035 2 месяца назад +4

      ​@TheAmericanKid94 it could be so much worse. This project started as "The Mighty Eighth" movie. That trailer had some rough effects. We got off lucky with this one

    • @TheBoundlessNexus
      @TheBoundlessNexus 2 месяца назад +2

      I'll be real, your joke is funny af, but I'd like to boomer out here for a second and offer context some might not be thinking of...
      So, I remember watching these types of movies/shows back in highschool (2011-2015) and understanding it took guts, but the full gravity of what I was watching didn't hit me till I was about 22 and was told by family elders "that guy could and just might have been you, if you were around back then" and that's a wild realization to have, which most don't.
      They see actors, CGI, and imperfections, and can you blame them? They simply lack the world skills and context that come with being a more mature adult. It's almost better these kids don't have to understand that harsh truth too early, it's basically what these incredibly brave men fought for!
      Anyways, thanks for coming to my TED Talk, hope you have a blessed one :)

    • @TheAmericanKid94
      @TheAmericanKid94 2 месяца назад +12

      @@michaelgarcia4035 True. To be totally fair CGI for this kind of project is necessary considering there are only 4 flyable B17's in existence. That being said, it could have been better. Also did they have to CGI the desert scenes? Like they couldn't just go to the desert and film? Seemed lazy tbh.

    • @guts-141
      @guts-141 2 месяца назад +1

      @@TheAmericanKid94 they relied on the CGI screen a lot for background acting rather than going to locations these days. Probably cheaper for them
      Still doesn't stop me from enjoying the stories

  • @tgs12495
    @tgs12495 16 дней назад

    Love this scene because Rosie shows how good of a pilot and leader he is

  • @doodial8540
    @doodial8540 2 месяца назад

    Beautiful clip ❤❤

  • @jameslachance8159
    @jameslachance8159 2 месяца назад +12

    Ball turrets are an awesome feat of engineering of the time.

    • @Sharky2901
      @Sharky2901 2 месяца назад +1

      Yes they are but DEADLY too !

    • @jameslachance8159
      @jameslachance8159 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Sharky2901 yes they must have been. For the airman inside. Tail gunner as well.

    • @veteran20002001
      @veteran20002001 2 месяца назад +1

      They had balls as big as the turrent themselves!

    • @fotograf736
      @fotograf736 2 месяца назад

      Not if you were in one.

    • @XenoPoopz
      @XenoPoopz 2 месяца назад +1

      @@fotograf736 Statistically ball turret was one of the safest positions in a b-17. It was more deadly to be a waist gunner

  • @jayjack6299
    @jayjack6299 4 дня назад

    I feel like the music takes away from the scene. BoB and Saving Private Ryan purposely left music out of battle scenes so it felt more immersive and so it wouldn't distract from the action

  • @Tjd1982
    @Tjd1982 2 месяца назад

    Insane how many men sacrificed their lives in the air battles of WW2.

  • @thiagopereiraleitedealmeid8929
    @thiagopereiraleitedealmeid8929 2 месяца назад

    É filme ou série? Tem na Netflix?

  • @larrysouthern5098
    @larrysouthern5098 Месяц назад

    It must have been like hell in the air....

  • @felipemunoz8105
    @felipemunoz8105 Месяц назад

    Increible escena. Pude sentir toda la acción en mi estómago. He visto muchas películas de este tipo desde niño y los b17 son mi bombardero favorito. Tal vez estuve en alguno en una vida anterior o en algún caza protegiéndolos.

  • @Markfarrar60
    @Markfarrar60 2 месяца назад

    It must have been terrifying

  • @yannickawan3394
    @yannickawan3394 Месяц назад

    the way the debris falls without the slgihtest tumble really stands out, the rest looks ok

  • @turnupthesun81
    @turnupthesun81 2 месяца назад

    I can’t imagine how durable those planes were if you could get shot up and fly that aggressively which according to legend is what happened.

  • @wesleycardinal8869
    @wesleycardinal8869 2 месяца назад +4

    Good to have these clips - I can see I want to watch nothing further of what is basically a comic book with real actors in it.

  • @Rat13111
    @Rat13111 15 дней назад +1

    0:30 “There’s a hole in your left wing!”

  • @Monkey_Gamer316
    @Monkey_Gamer316 2 месяца назад +4

    Greatest generation for a reason

    • @ianmiles7916
      @ianmiles7916 Месяц назад

      huh, not those that fought in WW1 and then WW2?

  • @briwire138
    @briwire138 Месяц назад

    I wonder if they have interlocks on the top turret to prevent shooting your own tail off.

  • @12C-fq4jz
    @12C-fq4jz 2 месяца назад

    What title is this ?

  • @SteveSamillano
    @SteveSamillano 2 месяца назад +6

    Holy moly...that was amazing. 😮

  • @theorncampbell4432
    @theorncampbell4432 2 месяца назад +1

    Wow!!!!!!

  • @juanelcrack7627
    @juanelcrack7627 2 месяца назад +2

    the definition of "Flying Fortress"

  • @scotts7180
    @scotts7180 2 месяца назад +39

    These flying scenes just look shockingly bad. We waited so long for this series and we got this.

    • @PPCmenace
      @PPCmenace 2 месяца назад +8

      CGI overkill. Ruined.

    • @timbridger4681
      @timbridger4681 2 месяца назад +23

      Y'all are yapping. CGI? Really? What did you expect? 100 real pilots piloting 100 real ww2 airplanes? The way the scenes are portrayed is from the crew's perspective. It makes perfect sense.

    • @popu_85
      @popu_85 2 месяца назад +10

      They didnt even respect the laws of physics in some scenes..

    • @PXCBIKES
      @PXCBIKES 2 месяца назад +5

      Yeh I don't think I will be watching this series at all ....I prefer Menphis belle or battle of Britain

    • @erikw1636
      @erikw1636 2 месяца назад +6

      @@popu_85 I know! somehow, while flying at 200+mph you are surrounded by debris floating as if it was in water, not in air and bound by gravity, and somehow keeping up with the B-17 and not disappearing in the rear as the plane propelled forward at speed. Idiotic.

  • @takeshikitano3176
    @takeshikitano3176 2 месяца назад

    This is Will Poulter on the screensaver?

  • @0Turbox
    @0Turbox Месяц назад

    No way you do any maneuver with such a hole in the wing.

  • @claverhouse1
    @claverhouse1 5 дней назад

    There must have been a hell of a lot of friendly fire damage within those tight formations as all the gunners fired wildly across the sky

  • @tommysmith2409
    @tommysmith2409 23 дня назад

    Good grief. Flying the B-17 bomber like it is a fighter is a bit much to believe.

  • @scrubadubdub8360
    @scrubadubdub8360 2 месяца назад

    Damn didnt know the bomber was such a nimble fighter with those moves -.-

    • @peterbassey9668
      @peterbassey9668 Месяц назад

      When push comes to shove, even I would've given that a try. What is more, they were no longer in formation with other bombers. The B-17s were constructed sturdy and tough, if it couldn't take that bit of rough flying then it didn't deserve the name Fortress.

  • @johannesnicolaas
    @johannesnicolaas 2 месяца назад

    What a horrible scene, all those plan parts falling from the sky..... what a fear they must have felt.

  • @outlawflyer7868
    @outlawflyer7868 2 месяца назад +5

    They seriously didn't do their research on some of these aircraft. I am finding a crap load of mistakes. I feel they rushed to get this show out. I watched the last episode the other night and a scene was shown from the tail end of a B-17 and the right elevator was down while the left one was in its neutral position. Ya, that doesn't happen, nor can it.

    • @thosdot6497
      @thosdot6497 Месяц назад

      The show was in preparation and production since 2013. And - "a crap load of mistakes" - it's not perfect, but they have gone to quite some lengths to get the details mostly right. There are other YT channels that do a much better job than "a crapload of mistakes" in telling us what's not correct. I recommend you look them up.

  • @slunderchuster4273
    @slunderchuster4273 2 месяца назад +51

    realism level : star wars

    • @stephencarter4304
      @stephencarter4304 2 месяца назад +7

      I agree. Would have thought they’d attempt a more realistic portrayal out of respect to the crews. A real misjudgment. Will be avoiding.

    • @ghostviggen
      @ghostviggen 2 месяца назад +3

      @@stephencarter4304The series is excellent despite the less realistic air battles.

    • @mattmaloney404
      @mattmaloney404 2 месяца назад +4

      Actually there are records of wounded b-17s "dogfighting" 109s like this. Probably not to this level, obviously. But as far as turning in to cut firing time, chasing and manuvering so non-wounded gunners had a shot. Wounded B-17s were known to do anything to avoid bailing out.

    • @Wildcat221
      @Wildcat221 12 дней назад +3

      It’s a tv show…. Chill

    • @commando6261
      @commando6261 12 дней назад +3

      Wherabo level, detected.

  • @AdamCzarnowski
    @AdamCzarnowski Месяц назад

    The RAF bombers had a manoeuvre called the corkscrew. There is at least one account of a German fighter trying unsuccessfully for a long time to get a shot at a bomber performing this tactic.

  • @aopt471
    @aopt471 26 дней назад

    German air force was fighting last defence against allied civilian killers.

  • @user-yf1pe5mq5q
    @user-yf1pe5mq5q 2 месяца назад

    Где можно смотрет фильм полностью?

  • @Tark75ifty
    @Tark75ifty Месяц назад

    Airman in a bomber was the worst place a soldier could be in WW2.

  • @gogogoro
    @gogogoro Месяц назад

    この映画はどこで視れるの⁉️

  • @tyrantin3r896
    @tyrantin3r896 2 месяца назад +2

    Honestly dude, F U C K being a bomber crew ill take my chances as a fighter or on the ground.
    MASSIVE respect to those who served as one though.
    Balls.
    Of.
    Steel.

    • @karenosborn116
      @karenosborn116 2 месяца назад

      My dad was the co-pilot of one of those bombers. He flew 30+ missions. I’m proud to have his Distinguished Flying Cross…🇺🇸❤️

    • @volkerwestphal3746
      @volkerwestphal3746 2 месяца назад

      After the war, they noticed that most people they had killed were women and children. Wonder whether this is shown by Spielberg and Hanks. I guess not.

  • @decimated550
    @decimated550 2 месяца назад +4

    0:32 those planes exploded a little bit too quickly. In my opinion, when they bumped into each other, I mean planes that blow up just as soon as they make a small bump, who who built these planes, general motors??

    • @MiguelOrellana-nx6ri
      @MiguelOrellana-nx6ri 2 месяца назад +2

      En el segundo 0:41 se puede ver que el avión tocó para mí parecer el compartimiento de combustible haci que si el avión pudo explotar por que como el combustible es inflamable con una pequeña chispa se incendia todo

    • @eopodermental
      @eopodermental Месяц назад +1

      eram avioes da boing

  • @andrewkamoha4666
    @andrewkamoha4666 20 дней назад

    WW2 heavy bombers dog fighting single engine fighters ?!?!?!?!

  • @user-jd6ni5dq7o
    @user-jd6ni5dq7o 2 месяца назад +4

    Is this war thunder game play video lol

  • @zedgraphics00
    @zedgraphics00 28 дней назад

    are these bomber manoeuvre realistic?

  • @hanshansen9645
    @hanshansen9645 Месяц назад +1

    ... "shot down in flames!!!"

  • @evdombrowski1
    @evdombrowski1 2 месяца назад

    I guess Hollywood will never stop going back to the well of WW2

  • @Rafael-lr4gn
    @Rafael-lr4gn 2 месяца назад +2

    we know they were fighting for the wrong side, but those german pilots were brave as f..k

  • @MorangRus
    @MorangRus 2 месяца назад +3

    I find it annoying that hand-operated gun mounts (waist, radio room and bow) sound like they mount M2HB variant (not just in that scene, everywhere in the show). It should be the same light-barrelled AN/M2 as in the turrets, with higher rate of fire. Slow "dut-dut-dut" sounds out of place.

    • @thosdot6497
      @thosdot6497 Месяц назад

      had to smile at this - everyone else is moaning about this and that, and you drill right down and complain about the cyclic rate of the hand-held guns. Well done!

  • @sinasedighizadeh1498
    @sinasedighizadeh1498 2 месяца назад +6

    Yo. That’s awesome

  • @patta8388
    @patta8388 2 месяца назад +2

    This episode felt weird. I grew up in Münster, went to University there...

  • @DuhThyHiTickler
    @DuhThyHiTickler 2 месяца назад +1

    Found one! Belt at 2:22. XD

    • @luuko656
      @luuko656 2 месяца назад

      well spotted!

  • @MagicMahn
    @MagicMahn Месяц назад +4

    The airplane physics in this series is so painful..

  • @doom9344
    @doom9344 2 месяца назад

    AI B-29 is deployed again in the drone era.

  • @gene7887
    @gene7887 2 месяца назад

    I like how the marketing pitched Cleven as the uber-pilot, when all along it was Rosey. Cleven would have tried to be macho and flew straight on into the Messerschmitts, Rosey said F that, now my fort is an oversized P-38, deal with it krauts!

  • @leonidtalas696
    @leonidtalas696 2 месяца назад +1

    the scene with falling fragments just...looks...bad...

  • @user-gc8pc3ol6l
    @user-gc8pc3ol6l Месяц назад +1

    Memphis Belle remains the far superior filmed account of this. This isn't a patch on Das Boot or Band of Brothers either.

  • @sirstiffpilchard
    @sirstiffpilchard 2 месяца назад

    How high were they flying without oxygen?

    • @stevetheduck1425
      @stevetheduck1425 2 месяца назад

      They wore oxygen masks in every scene?
      Usually, going above 10,000 feet means the average person needs oxygen ( airliners are pressurised for this reason ), but some WWII crews flew higher than that before using oxygen.
      B-17s could go up to 30,000 feet, reputedly, but not with a useful bombload.

    • @megoblks
      @megoblks 2 месяца назад

      ​@@stevetheduck1425 you don't at all need 02 at 10k

  • @garyowen9044
    @garyowen9044 22 дня назад

    How did they not shoot each other when they flew in the box formation.

  • @thirdworldrider6991
    @thirdworldrider6991 3 дня назад

    no fighter escort?>

  • @spqr1945
    @spqr1945 2 месяца назад +1

    Germans didn’t have easy as well. 90% of German fighter pilots were KIA.

    • @buzzardflight1
      @buzzardflight1 2 месяца назад

      Nowhere near that figure

    • @JLee-rt6ve
      @JLee-rt6ve 2 месяца назад +1

      As I recall, U-boat crews suffered the highest casualty rates at 75%.

    • @Melior_Traiano
      @Melior_Traiano 2 месяца назад

      @@JLee-rt6ve The German U-Boat force suffered the highest casualty rates out of all the armies fighting in WWII. The Allied bomber force takes second place among the units with the highest casualty rates. My grand-uncle died as second in command of a German U-Boat during WWII. He was send on a suicide mission and he knew that it was highly unlikely that he'd ever return.

  • @BadWolf762
    @BadWolf762 2 месяца назад +3

    A lone B-17 against multiple 109s? It would have been over in under a minute for the Fortress as the 109s could fire their 20mm cannons out of range of the 50 bmgs. And the pilot flying the bomber like it was a fighter?

    • @owensteam
      @owensteam 2 месяца назад +1

      This “clip” is pretty dumb isn’t it

    • @bmused55
      @bmused55 2 месяца назад +1

      This actually happened and the pilot did get it home.

    • @bmused55
      @bmused55 2 месяца назад +1

      @@owensteamdo some research. It actually happened. And they got home.

    • @owensteam
      @owensteam 2 месяца назад +1

      @@bmused55 the single bomber coming home is a well documented fact but it didn’t happen like that. Use your brain it’s Hollywood