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7:40 yes! Exactly. It really bothers me that people seem to use internet just for social media, when they really need for something important, they ask other people about it instead of searching.
I’m a 5 and I don’t like math or science 🤷🏼♀️ I used to but then I started really struggled with it and then started hating it. I love watching other people talk about it and seeing the end results!
Haha, me too! I'm more into literature, history and sociology/psychology, also I'm planning to study psychology after high school. I love helping people logically solve their problems and observe their actions, ways of coping and how their disorders makes them act. It's really interesting!
It really astonishes me how you display an interest for your son and how he's thinking and perspective on things. Maybe some people take for granted but I've never experienced anything like that from my parents. I recently moved to a different city to get away from my family. I'm watching this because a friend said she might think I'm a 5 but I associate myself in 2 also. Feeling rejected by my own family on top of being bullied throughout school taught me the most important thing is love when you only know the abscence of it.
5w4 here, and sign 10 was pretty accurate haha I do think I'm pretty territorial with my stuff and personal space - I mean, I have no problem lending my things to others, but they have to ask first or I'll freak out. But overall, I'd rather have people stay at the door instead of coming in, though. I don't feel a conection with any of those famous people... in fact, I don't think I relate to or look up to anyone famous - or from real life even. Maybe our own personal interests as fives will differ, not everyone will be into computer science, programing or etc. In my case, I like tech, I really do, but I put more effort in researching about how the human mind works, body language, facial expressions, how society and culture may affect that, etc.
You have very good points. I don't think 5s look up to celebrities...I don't think they would care about something like that. And they won't all be into those careers. Thanks for sharing from your point of view! So fascinating!
I'm currently reading "Behave: The Biology of Humans at our Best and Worst" by Robert Sapolsky and "Buy-ology Truth and Lies About Why We Buy" by Martin Lindstrom. Human behavior is my go to category for reading/research. 5w6.
@@enneagramandcoaching I'm a 5w4 and I actually like looking at celebrities, well their looks and behavior specifically... looks because art always interests me and behavior because I like figuring out if what they're showing in a specific video is their actual personality or just a persona that they use for the market. also because I like to know why are they behave like that, their thought process behind certain actions, etc ps: I just started this interest of mine recently.. it started when my friend told me I was ignorant about these things which did not sit well with me and annoyed me for days
Another great career choice for for a 5 is an interpreter! I’m an ASL interpreter and my whole job is analyzing people’s use of language, body movement, intonation, and their intended message…and then interpreting all of those things simultaneously into another language. Side note, anyone other 5 HAVE TO look up the whole cast of pretty much any show or movie you watch..?
1:58 I would definitely add Sherlock Holmes from the books by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle (not the “high functioning sociopath” from the BBC series) to that list! Sincerely from - Disturber of the Peace.
I am a social type five and I live in a constant tension of needing to be alone to focus and what I’m reading/researching and wanting someone around to talk to about it all the time. At first I thought this tension might’ve meant I was a seven and even the passion in which I speak on it I thought I might’ve been a four but passionate extroverted fives do exist!
It’s possible I could be something else, but I think I am most probably an ENTP ILE 5w6 so/sx 5 9 3. I can relate to everything except 8 and maybe a little bit 9. I’m pretty extroverted love connecting with people and enjoy spontaneous adventures! I don’t really mind being barged in on. I also think small talk is a good way to emotionally connect with someone rather than purely intellectually. It also makes people feel like you care about them.
10/10 haha! I'm an SP 5w4 and I work part time as a freelance editor. It's so perfect--I work as much or little as I want to and I'm alone all day, only communicating through email most of the time. I'm always learning, digging deep into each client's topic and I get paid to nitpick and "solve the puzzle" of making their book manuscript/dissertation the best version of itself. I also make homemade greeting cards (hopefully selling at a co-op soon) so that feeds my 4 wing on my own private terms as well.
I don’t necessarily relate to the engineer/math stuff, but I’m very into history and theology. Half my books are on niche theological topics right now.
I am not interested in Niche but I am into Catholic Theology, History, Politics, Psychology, Philosophy, Archeology, 3D reconstruction of ancient cities and 3D historical facial reconstructions, even phorensic facial reconstruction.
And that’s okay! I suggest you watch Hillary’s other type 5 videos where she talks about the core motivation and fear of the 5, and any other types you think might be you!
@@francesca.pellegrino I have along with doing my own research and 5 sounds a lot like me. But from what I've seen and read 5s seem to be really reserved, and I am but I'll still talk to people even if it quickly drains my energy
@@invadertifxiii that doesn’t sound like a “but” phrase for me. You can be a 5 and like to talk to people. The fact that it drains you is telling, and suggestive that you may be a 5. The fact that you do it anyway should be irrelevant. You could have a 6 wing (I know a few chatty 6s), or it could be a social subtype, or maybe you just really find the human experience fascinating, and want to know about everyone. Or maybe it’s how you were raised. Or maybe you aren’t a 5, and you could have a 5 wing? But if this is the message that resonates the most with you, you’re probably a 5. The boxes are here for guidance, not to confine or exclude.
Hi Hillary! It’s me again! As a 4w5 I can relate to these as well. Especially the points on loving to learn about how things work, watching history documentaries, being tech support for my family, having tons of books, and wearing the same type of outfit that has that certain aesthetic in different ways. Oh and let’s not forget about being cynical lol. But I have feelings. Lots of them. Lol.
There are stereotypes that fives and INTPs are emotionless and only interested in knowledge and intellectual activities. I'm a 5w4 with Fi and Te, which means that I can be emotional and delegate reasoning to other people.
When you said "Observing your emotions instead of experiencing them" I had an epiphany! I'm a social 5w4 and an epiphany or really any sudden realization moment is what I live for so thank you for that 😅
I'm a type 5 with balanced wings and work as an engineer. So much resonated with me. Most of my books, of which I have many, are non-fiction ranging from languages to DIY to Christianity to psychology and I definitely wear pretty much the same stuff every day. Thanks for the video
The small talk resonated with me- especially in work settings where we have to "go around the circle and say something about yourself." I am definitely cynical in my mind, but it doesnt always translate into speech well, so I keep it in. I love fixing things and problem solving, though sometimes I feel like people expect me to be some profound deep thinker and I worry they will figure out the truth if I talk too much. Happy bday to your son!!! And yes, I agree with the whole google thing. It's ridiculous and frustrating that people dont just look into the answers themselves. I think the least they could do is groundwork for figuring stuff out and only ask if they are confused.
Being INTJ 5w6 (JAVA programmer), I relate to 9 signs (not the last one, may be suits more xNTP) A precision for the eighth sign : I need to be alone to rest and regain energy (feeling exausted, like being a battery out of energy)
Hahaha I related to all of these! I think the thing with privacy also has to do with how we view knowledge. We see knowledge and information as a powerful tool, and because of that we are very cautious about what personal information we share with others because what we share could potentially leave us vulnerable to others in some way. That sounds very cynical, but it just makes logical sense to me! As for dressing, a lot of the time I do just dress to not be naked and wear a very minimalist uniform of a black tshirt and jeans. However fashion is one of my interests and so I can enjoy spending time putting together outfits and getting dressed up! However I will usually spend a couple hours in one go in my wardrobe making outfits that I can remember so I can just throw them on if I need to later. I think the minimalist attire has more to do with not wanting to put energy into things we don't find interesting. If we're interested in clothes, we can actually get very into it. A good example of this I think would be the character Beth from The Queens Gambit who I also believe is a 5w4. I would say that after chess, her secondary interest is fashion!
Yay! Thank you for sharing. I love hearing from actual 5's points of view. I found myself nodding my head as I was reading your comment. Yep! Couldn't agree more. Amazing insight!
I’m 5W4 I guess the 4 is pretty high. I relate to everything when it comes to how we act but my taste are totally different and I put a lot of effort into clothes since I’m really interested in it. I’m also obsessed with psychology, true crime and understanding the human function. I’m confused, am I a 4W5?
Some great information in this video. I self identify as a type five, and this rang bells for me. And I wanted to add that depth of focus and perception a 5 brings doesn't just apply to scientific disciplines - a technical, problem solving mindset can be applied just as well to fitness, or gardening or music or whatever. So the intellectual thing is a tendency, habit or behaviour, rather than any specific interest. I'm sure you know this but wanted to add... Also, I have heard that the personality is very fluid until about 30 or 35.So if we type ourselves or another before then, we have too accept that we may change. Does that ring true for you? Thanks for the video!
Yes! You are so right that it just doesn't apply to scientific disciplines. Thank you for that insight! I would say that our type never changes but we might not truly know our type for a while. We may mistype ourselves based on our own self awareness or lack thereof.
Yes I’m studying counselling. We have intricate understanding of how things work and when applied with say CBT or humanistic theories we can really work wonders and carve out a path for our clients to being laying their own bricks. Good luck!
A sexual 5 does lean toward more artistic jobs and writing. And female 5s look different sometimes I would love to see some male vs. female 5 or the counter type 5
5w4, all 10 of these things were pretty accurate for me. The only thing I'd add is that although I do love learning from tv and movies, I'm also a big fan of fairly mindless anime. Its nice to turn the brain off once in a while, since I feel like I'm constantly trying to unravel how the world works and figuring out all these big questions 24/7. Also, ask your son if he's into playing around with the feature, google trends. I'm in love with that feature haha, i get the feeling other type fives are/would as well
I think I’m a type 5 (maybe) except that I SUCK at math 😂. I think I’m a 5w4 (possibly), I like to deep dive into information and if I get stuck on a subject I’ll stay on it for a long time.
Thanks for this video. I am a 5 but I don't remember my wing but all of this makes sense to me. I am an INFJ as well so I understand everything and so glad my wife understands that.
But not all type fives, I'm type five and I love fashion and make up. I have studied and researched it so much it's crazy. I know my body type, hair type, face shape. I know what colors and shapes look best, I know which countries have the best sunscreen and I know which countries give the best Bikini tans. It is because I'm type five I even went this far, Type five is a personality but it doesn't predict your hobbies and interests.
Yeah this is me. I took an enneagram workshop today and I got a 5. I got this detailed overview too and it’s trippy his spot on it was. Now I’m doing all the research.
I’m definitely a type 5w4 but I swing to 5w6, even as far as 7 and I scored really high as a type 1 as well. I honestly think I’ve spent so much time learning many things over the years, that I’ve picked up traits from other types.
Loving the channel.. I’ve-very recently gotten into enneagram and I’m a 5w4/6 (INTP-A (Fe/Si ) sexual… Basically all of this!!!! I couldn’t encapsulate me any more succinctly that all these points if I tried.
It’s MEEEE! I was sure I was a 5 but lately I’ve been wondering if I’m actually a 1, but watching this confirmed it. The point about getting really focused and hate interruptions really hit me - this happens to me at work, when someone asks to have a meeting while I’m working on tasks my brain is scattered and I’m kind of harsh/cold because I can’t switch focus. I have to sort of “close” one thought/focus before I can move to the next.
In regards to sign 6, I spent so much time learning about how cell phones, the internet, and data storage works just because I use it a lot and wanted to know, literally for no other reason.
This is so relatable! I absolutely love documentaries (especially about medicine or history). I actually didn't really understand because I really do need to understand before I can do anything. Like I think everything is interesting to understand, I love every topic from history to technical stuff to (my favorite) biology. I am really swinging between the 4 or 5 but this really hits home because this is basically everything I've always been struggling with since I was small. I also get really bored when things are intellectually not challenging and I usually go to a 7 (avoiding responsibility and only wanting to do 'fun' stuff). I really need to think about this more. 🤔😂thnx for the vid
I took one of those tests, and my results were a type 5. My Meyers Briggs results were INFP. Even though I prefer facts over feelings, I feel as if I'm in touch with my emotions, but don't really know how to express them. When I was younger, I experienced emotions a lot stronger, but you can only get hurt so many times to where you learn to shut them off when bad things happen. I don't know if that makes any sense. I guess the point I'm trying to make is even though I'm emotionally available, I feel as if by others knowing I'm a type 5, people will believe I'm not emotionally available.
INFPs feel intense emotions but they are introverted so they also are not good at expressing them because have Fi. As a 5w4 intp I feel intense emotions at times too but I can logically explain my emotions once I actually figure out what I’m feeling( this can take days, weeks, years) because of my Ti and I don’t take it personally if people don’t agree with my emotions
My father is a researcher and always immersed and in love w science and our culture’s history, all these signs represent his behaviour at home So ironic that your son is born on the day of love❤️
This is so true i don't know much about physics but i loved watching about physics I'm a 5w6 and I switch from 5 to 6 when planning my career then go back to 5 to synthesize them
I often deliberate between deciding if I'm a 6 or a 5, and this video definitely helped me realize I'm probz a 6 with a strong 5 wing. Signs 4-10 are SO real for me, but my engagement with the world is slightly more dictated by a need for certainty than understanding how things work. Often times, I'll panic about what or how I should spend my time researching instead of following the distinct answers I want, which feels so 6w5 to me lol (Or I'm just a perfectionist). I'm very much a devil's advocate, but I often prioritize allowing the other person to save face or saving face myself before questioning things aloud. Thanks for helping me put those questions to rest!
My husband says, "She saw my bookshelf." He's a programming instructor. Also, has his cubby of t-shirts and just takes the one on top until they are gone and then does laundry. Very simple wardrobe.
Not me, literally teaching myself to program and giggling about how thrilled that Java and Machine Learning book made me feel. Also, yes to documentaries. And also RUclips in general is great for learning.
I got 9 out of 10 and can totally can relate, I scored typed 5 on the enneagram several times. I can do small talk as an INFJ and as I am friendly to be kind. But yes, I relate to all the others. In small talk I often I can get sarcastic and they shut up! I get awkward and they walk away. Nothing serious. I just can’t stand fake people. 😂
I love 5s. Maybe it’s because I spent so much of my life living as one, but dang, a discussion with a 5 just is invigorating, inspires me to go do things. This week, I listened to Elon Musk on clubhouse, and he goes on a little bit about his life growing up, and it felt like a glimpse into the making of a 5. Then he went on to hijack the interview by bringing on his own guest to interview, Vlad Tenev of Robinhood, potentially another 5, but one who seems less secure in himself than Elon Musk is. I’ve also seen some fascinating arguments that Einstein may have been a type 9! That is definitely an interesting rabbit hole, and I don’t know what to think there!
Yesssssss! I love those in depth discussions too. Also, as for Einstein part, i think it's easy to Mistype people when examining them because only they can truly tell what their core is like and our deductions are based on what side of them we see. I'm an ambivert and people usually mistype me as a 1w9 but I'm a balanced 5 i know because i really need a good alone time after a vigorous social situation. Also, i learnt how to socialise growing up as a necessity and studied psychology to understand myself and others around me. I think that's the most type 5 thing to ever do. :p
I’m a type 5 and I identified with all of these. However, the last one made me smile. I’ve learned to embrace my sarcastic and cynical side, much to my benefit and others amusement.
😎. 👏🏼. 👏🏼. This was great!!!!! Number 10 had me just cracking up hehehe. Yup, lots going on in our heads, and likely best not all of it comes out! 🤣. Really enjoyed this. Your son is lucky to have such an awesome mom that understands him. Sandy
My partner is a 5 and I giggled when you mentioned them wearing the same clothes almost every day. So true. She doesn't really value privacy though. Her focus is so deep when she's into something that we could throw a party around her and she wouldn't even know.
Hi Hillary! How are you? I'm a 5w6, and suddenly I got really interested in Medicine. Do you think, based on my enneagram, that I could be a good surgeon?
I'm a contractor who does work on behalf of a federal agency. I sometimes have to dig for information on the Internet and follow breadcrumbs. I like that aspect of my work and feel a real sense of accomplishment when I successfully find the information that I need, especially if someone has tried to hide that information.
Maybe I am type 5, (i’m new to this) 😄 I like science so much and everything makes me curious. I dont really read that much only the things that picks my interest, but I always see to it that I get a perfect explaination to all my why questions. I wonder always in everything that I see, how it works and I’m so open minded. I’m still confused of my enneagram if I’m 5 or 4 type. I’m kinda good in art, but not to the extent that i express it through my feelings and emotions. My Mbti personality test is INTJ-T.
As a Type 5 before clicking on the video: Dreads the accurate logic behind this video Cynical? Sarcastic? Me? But I am a sweet angel that would never advocate for the devil. I mean, I am the devil after all, but... OOP. Said the quiet part loud. CURSE YOU, WING 4!! Great stuff. Everything but the first one applied to me, but the first one is for other reasons than being a 5. Great video as always!
@@enneagramandcoaching Me? (looks around) You mean me? Are... Are you sure? I am the devil, after all. I make mean cakes. Thank you for all of the content! I always look forward to seeing what you have lined up next and how you will expose my poor black heart to kindness and emotions and those ... (shudders) ... FEELINGS you humans keep talking about.
@@MatthewEaton OMG! I look forward to your comments! I'm am dying over this one! How the heck are you so funny??? I read you comments out loud to my friends! They are that good.
@@enneagramandcoaching Umm... Well, there is place where you can purchase a humor upgrade. It is very secret, only 5s really know where it is-- WING 4!! Stop saying the quiet parts loud! They will find out. You know... THEM... The ... (shudders) ... HUMANS. A lot of practice and a troubled past makes me quick with wit and knowledge. Thank you for the kind words! I am glad I can entertain.
Facts are clearly more important than feelings on most important issues one deals with in life. Facts first, feelings second. And that whole "facts don't care about your feelings "?.......yeah.....it's true.
I didn't want to be a 5 because in all descriptions they seem very shy and hating social life. But in some videos, like yours, fives are not presented this way - thank you for this 🤍 I love to take my time dressing up and putting on makeup, but the rest is very much like you described. Btw I'm an Artificial Intelligence Lead and I love my job, please tell your son to go in this direction, it will fulfill his life 😍
I can relate to a lot of this. I’ve found that sometimes people don’t want to even consider worst-case scenarios and get annoyed when negative possibilities are brought up - they view it as being a “naysayer”. Also analysis paralysis can be a real problem.
Ok , i just recently found out about this enneagram stuff, so i took an online test. It indicated i was a 5, with a big ol wedge for 9. I have been a software developer for over 30 years, i do like science, tech, superheroes, etc. One thing is, it is not that your friends come to you with problems, as you may not have any friends. Your coworkers certainly will. I think a 5 can be a loner type, although he is smart enough to be sociable, it is just not a priority to be a socialte. And i do not think anyone can imagine what goes on in his head. He is often told he does not make sense, he has no depth, he is not known, etc. The world does not understand him, and can be cruel to him, except, of course, when it needs him. And the resourceful innovator thT he is, he will usually come to the rescue.
I'm 100% sure I'm a type 5 but I've never really understood this concept of "energy" when it comes to being around other people or being alone. In classic type 5 fashion it's frustrating to find a concept so impenetrable and I overthink EVERYTHING so I'm sure I'm overthinking energy as well but if anyone with a less chaotic brain can help me unpack it it would be much appreciated!
@desertrosereads Perfect description, thank you very much! I 100% relate to that, I feel like my brain works when I'm alone and it just dies completely thinking of things to say to people XD
Not sure if I’m a 5 or 6. I never in a million years thought I could be a 6, but the listener to a podcast that said something else than just the normal 6 being a loyalist, rule following person who fears everything and are people pleasers. I feel like sixes gets a bad rep and maybe that’s why I don’t want to see myself as one. I’ve watched your videos on mistyping but I would love some more in depth 5 or 6. How are they very similar and how do they differ?
So, I just watched the reaction video to this and once again the #10 Sarcasm just cracks me up. I don't know why I relate to this specific one so much, I mean I don't necessarily think of sarcasm and the positive side of 5 but find it hilarious that I go to 5 in growth and I identify with this one thing especially about not saying it but certainly thinking it.
I enjoy trades. I'm a female construction worker and I repair operators and garage doors etc. Lots of manual labor. I also enjoy psychology and philosophy, history, science, productivity and oddly, sports science and physical therapy, health, agriculture etc. I'm very active and also love learning. I enjoy what I do, but also because I can be alone with my podcasts playing while I work I can relate to hating small talk. It's awkward, stressful, boring. But I can talk all day about something deep or interesting
I’m a half type 5, half type 1. I’m also an INFJ, I can tell when something is wrong in a room like a sixth sense. I definitely prefer feeling over thought, but I don’t like putting extra effort into food or clothing. Yep I use Google for everything, unless someone needs wisdom, then I tell them truthful caring thoughts.
Yup, agree with so much there, but I'm one INTJ-A Type 5(sp)w6 that is a preschool teacher! I love working with kids! They are as interested in stuff as I am (I still feel like a kid and I'm 60) and so I get to spend my day leading investigations into just about everything and also help them learn to make order from their chaos...and I get paid to do it!! WIN!
and yes, my closet is filled with sets of 'uniforms' as an ex once called them....several of same things in diff colors, plus some 'accent' sweaters/skirts in patterns that go with all the solid color pieces (all of them, not just some of them so I can literally grab and go and not sweat it)...I have 4 backpack purses in same styles/diff colors too...only my shoes truly vary, LOL!
and I joke I'm the "Spare Sister", the cerebral one the two partiers only come to when they're freaked out over something and need to be talked down from the proverbial ledge.
5w4 here (probably sx/so, though the jury's still out on that one) and INTJ. The famous type 5s I resonate most with are Jane Austen and Friedrich Nietzsche, though I don't necessarily agree with everything either of them says. I'm also very much not a fan of Elon Musk. I'm also not a typical 5 because I get bored with math and I've never been interested in computers or programming. I do want to learn why things work and I've always asked "why" way too much and gotten into so much trouble in both school and church growing up. I like to be challenged in my thinking and have my assumptions questioned, especially if they're not logically or factually sound. With small talk, I've always enjoyed making a bit of a game from it. I like trying to see how well I can direct the "small talk" conversation into something that I'm interested in, without the other people catching on. For an easy thing, get people talking about their pets, if they have any. It's honestly much more tolerable than talking about the weather or whatnot and I've found that most people like talking about their pets.
This describes me well. I believe that im a 479 tritype, 4w5. I do strongly relate to the 5 type. I do relate to Einstein, Elon Musk, Bill Gates, and i have a strong interest in computer technology.
I definitely think there is a wide range of behaviors and preferences for every type depending on so many different factors. I am for sure a five because of my cores, but not in the sense of learning scientific facts or random facts that have nothing to do with what I want to know. Like I love learning more about people and the mind and why we do what we do and stuff like that. And I most definitely love awkward moments and situations because it allows me to question why it’s so awkward and sends me into a whole other spiral of thought lol
Absolutely true! Thanks for sharing this! When you said you love awkward moments I had to stop and think about my type 5 son and I think he’s the same 😂
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What does "observe their own emotions rather than experiencing them" mean?
7:40 yes! Exactly. It really bothers me that people seem to use internet just for social media, when they really need for something important, they ask other people about it instead of searching.
LOL!
Facts depict reality, emotions do not. You can ignore reality but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.
INTJ, 5W6 SP.
Very true!
Only peasents, americans and scientists care about the a posteriori. ESFJ, 3w2 🤭
I’m a 5 and I don’t like math or science 🤷🏼♀️ I used to but then I started really struggled with it and then started hating it. I love watching other people talk about it and seeing the end results!
Haha! My type 5 son hates math too!
Haha, me too! I'm more into literature, history and sociology/psychology, also I'm planning to study psychology after high school. I love helping people logically solve their problems and observe their actions, ways of coping and how their disorders makes them act. It's really interesting!
i don’t particularly like it but i want to... it’s like, i don’t really dislike the subject, i just dislike having a hard time on it.
@@biscuits2463 yeaah, same!
@@biscuits2463 I do understand what you mean. I wish I got it easier than I do and I love the concept of it all. I love hearing others talk about it.
"Facts over feelings!"
Yes, thinking does come first!
I do observe my emotions instead of experiencing them. Spot on!
It really astonishes me how you display an interest for your son and how he's thinking and perspective on things. Maybe some people take for granted but I've never experienced anything like that from my parents. I recently moved to a different city to get away from my family. I'm watching this because a friend said she might think I'm a 5 but I associate myself in 2 also. Feeling rejected by my own family on top of being bullied throughout school taught me the most important thing is love when you only know the abscence of it.
Awww thanks for sharing!
I feel ya. 🫂
we all deserve a type 9 parent as type 5s
5w4 here, and sign 10 was pretty accurate haha
I do think I'm pretty territorial with my stuff and personal space - I mean, I have no problem lending my things to others, but they have to ask first or I'll freak out. But overall, I'd rather have people stay at the door instead of coming in, though.
I don't feel a conection with any of those famous people... in fact, I don't think I relate to or look up to anyone famous - or from real life even. Maybe our own personal interests as fives will differ, not everyone will be into computer science, programing or etc. In my case, I like tech, I really do, but I put more effort in researching about how the human mind works, body language, facial expressions, how society and culture may affect that, etc.
You have very good points. I don't think 5s look up to celebrities...I don't think they would care about something like that. And they won't all be into those careers. Thanks for sharing from your point of view! So fascinating!
I'm currently reading "Behave: The Biology of Humans at our Best and Worst" by Robert Sapolsky and "Buy-ology Truth and Lies About Why We Buy" by Martin Lindstrom. Human behavior is my go to category for reading/research. 5w6.
@@enneagramandcoaching I'm a 5w4 and I actually like looking at celebrities, well their looks and behavior specifically... looks because art always interests me and behavior because I like figuring out if what they're showing in a specific video is their actual personality or just a persona that they use for the market. also because I like to know why are they behave like that, their thought process behind certain actions, etc
ps: I just started this interest of mine recently.. it started when my friend told me I was ignorant about these things which did not sit well with me and annoyed me for days
Another great career choice for for a 5 is an interpreter! I’m an ASL interpreter and my whole job is analyzing people’s use of language, body movement, intonation, and their intended message…and then interpreting all of those things simultaneously into another language.
Side note, anyone other 5 HAVE TO look up the whole cast of pretty much any show or movie you watch..?
INTJ 5w6: "The facts don't care about your feelings"
😂😂😂
Lol, that’s a go-to line for me, and I’m an 8.
8 here as well and I'm pretty sure I've said this XD
@@caroline26601 and the irony when I say it is that I am usually pretty angry by the time it comes out of my mouth.
@@francesca.pellegrino Yup. My 9w keeps me from saying it for a while and then I get really angry and the filter comes off
1:58 I would definitely add Sherlock Holmes from the books by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle (not the “high functioning sociopath” from the BBC series) to that list!
Sincerely from - Disturber of the Peace.
I am a social type five and I live in a constant tension of needing to be alone to focus and what I’m reading/researching and wanting someone around to talk to about it all the time.
At first I thought this tension might’ve meant I was a seven and even the passion in which I speak on it I thought I might’ve been a four but passionate extroverted fives do exist!
Yes they do! They are rare but they exist! So happy you figured it out.
Ha, I'm the same way, I'm so/sx 5 . Introvert.
It’s possible I could be something else, but I think I am most probably an ENTP ILE 5w6 so/sx 5 9 3. I can relate to everything except 8 and maybe a little bit 9. I’m pretty extroverted love connecting with people and enjoy spontaneous adventures! I don’t really mind being barged in on. I also think small talk is a good way to emotionally connect with someone rather than purely intellectually. It also makes people feel like you care about them.
10/10 haha! I'm an SP 5w4 and I work part time as a freelance editor. It's so perfect--I work as much or little as I want to and I'm alone all day, only communicating through email most of the time. I'm always learning, digging deep into each client's topic and I get paid to nitpick and "solve the puzzle" of making their book manuscript/dissertation the best version of itself. I also make homemade greeting cards (hopefully selling at a co-op soon) so that feeds my 4 wing on my own private terms as well.
This is awesome!
I don’t necessarily relate to the engineer/math stuff, but I’m very into history and theology. Half my books are on niche theological topics right now.
Her description seems to be more about male 5 (maybe because of her son) than both male and female 5
I am not interested in Niche but I am into Catholic Theology, History, Politics, Psychology, Philosophy, Archeology, 3D reconstruction of ancient cities and 3D historical facial reconstructions, even phorensic facial reconstruction.
I think I'm a type 5 but dont like any of those types of books or shows. I like fantasy syfi
Edit: I've come to the conclusion I'm a tye 4 infp 4w5
And that’s okay! I suggest you watch Hillary’s other type 5 videos where she talks about the core motivation and fear of the 5, and any other types you think might be you!
@@francesca.pellegrino I have along with doing my own research and 5 sounds a lot like me. But from what I've seen and read 5s seem to be really reserved, and I am but I'll still talk to people even if it quickly drains my energy
@@invadertifxiii that doesn’t sound like a “but” phrase for me. You can be a 5 and like to talk to people. The fact that it drains you is telling, and suggestive that you may be a 5. The fact that you do it anyway should be irrelevant. You could have a 6 wing (I know a few chatty 6s), or it could be a social subtype, or maybe you just really find the human experience fascinating, and want to know about everyone. Or maybe it’s how you were raised.
Or maybe you aren’t a 5, and you could have a 5 wing? But if this is the message that resonates the most with you, you’re probably a 5. The boxes are here for guidance, not to confine or exclude.
@@francesca.pellegrino thank you, that helps
@@invadertifxiii that’s great! Glad to be of help!
Yes to almost all of this. It’s hard being a 5 plus having ADHD!
Hi Hillary! It’s me again!
As a 4w5 I can relate to these as well. Especially the points on loving to learn about how things work, watching history documentaries, being tech support for my family, having tons of books, and wearing the same type of outfit that has that certain aesthetic in different ways. Oh and let’s not forget about being cynical lol.
But I have feelings. Lots of them. Lol.
Hi Christina! You do have a strong 5 wing!
There are stereotypes that fives and INTPs are emotionless and only interested in knowledge and intellectual activities. I'm a 5w4 with Fi and Te, which means that I can be emotional and delegate reasoning to other people.
My first thought was “did you ask permission before getting those books out of his space?” Related to all of the signs. INFJ 5w6
😅😂 I did! He begrudgingly let me.
When you said "Observing your emotions instead of experiencing them" I had an epiphany! I'm a social 5w4 and an epiphany or really any sudden realization moment is what I live for so thank you for that 😅
I'm a type 5 with balanced wings and work as an engineer. So much resonated with me. Most of my books, of which I have many, are non-fiction ranging from languages to DIY to Christianity to psychology and I definitely wear pretty much the same stuff every day. Thanks for the video
The small talk resonated with me- especially in work settings where we have to "go around the circle and say something about yourself."
I am definitely cynical in my mind, but it doesnt always translate into speech well, so I keep it in. I love fixing things and problem solving, though sometimes I feel like people expect me to be some profound deep thinker and I worry they will figure out the truth if I talk too much.
Happy bday to your son!!! And yes, I agree with the whole google thing. It's ridiculous and frustrating that people dont just look into the answers themselves. I think the least they could do is groundwork for figuring stuff out and only ask if they are confused.
Oh, these are so good and true!!!!!
the thing about people coming before using google is totally true haha I keep thinking "gosh they could solve this in 5 minutes without my help"
Hahahaha!
As a type 5 I hate hearing "I'm sorry", I want to hear what are you going to do to ensure this doesn't happen again. Then I'll accept your apology.
Thanks! INFJ, 5w4 here.
Greetings fellow 5w4 INFJ. Pleasure!
@@MatthewEaton Hi there.
Being INTJ 5w6 (JAVA programmer), I relate to 9 signs (not the last one, may be suits more xNTP)
A precision for the eighth sign : I need to be alone to rest and regain energy (feeling exausted, like being a battery out of energy)
I like what you added! So good and absolutely true!
Definitely detective! The ability to notice subtle cues (like non-verbal body language) help me in my work as a personal trainer and life coach.
Ok as a 5 every single one of these was scarily relatable, especially when you said war documentaries
Haha! Yes!
Hahaha I related to all of these! I think the thing with privacy also has to do with how we view knowledge. We see knowledge and information as a powerful tool, and because of that we are very cautious about what personal information we share with others because what we share could potentially leave us vulnerable to others in some way. That sounds very cynical, but it just makes logical sense to me! As for dressing, a lot of the time I do just dress to not be naked and wear a very minimalist uniform of a black tshirt and jeans. However fashion is one of my interests and so I can enjoy spending time putting together outfits and getting dressed up! However I will usually spend a couple hours in one go in my wardrobe making outfits that I can remember so I can just throw them on if I need to later. I think the minimalist attire has more to do with not wanting to put energy into things we don't find interesting. If we're interested in clothes, we can actually get very into it. A good example of this I think would be the character Beth from The Queens Gambit who I also believe is a 5w4. I would say that after chess, her secondary interest is fashion!
Yay! Thank you for sharing. I love hearing from actual 5's points of view. I found myself nodding my head as I was reading your comment. Yep! Couldn't agree more. Amazing insight!
@@enneagramandcoaching 5s are most comfortable sharing anonymously, online haha.
I’m 5W4 I guess the 4 is pretty high. I relate to everything when it comes to how we act but my taste are totally different and I put a lot of effort into clothes since I’m really interested in it. I’m also obsessed with psychology, true crime and understanding the human function. I’m confused, am I a 4W5?
Some great information in this video. I self identify as a type five, and this rang bells for me.
And I wanted to add that depth of focus and perception a 5 brings doesn't just apply to scientific disciplines - a technical, problem solving mindset can be applied just as well to fitness, or gardening or music or whatever. So the intellectual thing is a tendency, habit or behaviour, rather than any specific interest. I'm sure you know this but wanted to add...
Also, I have heard that the personality is very fluid until about 30 or 35.So if we type ourselves or another before then, we have too accept that we may change. Does that ring true for you?
Thanks for the video!
Yes! You are so right that it just doesn't apply to scientific disciplines. Thank you for that insight!
I would say that our type never changes but we might not truly know our type for a while. We may mistype ourselves based on our own self awareness or lack thereof.
im a five, and i want to be a therapist! fives can talk about problems really well.
Love this!
Yes I’m studying counselling. We have intricate understanding of how things work and when applied with say CBT or humanistic theories we can really work wonders and carve out a path for our clients to being laying their own bricks.
Good luck!
A sexual 5 does lean toward more artistic jobs and writing. And female 5s look different sometimes I would love to see some male vs. female 5 or the counter type 5
Sign 4: wear the same thing everyday
Me* in my bday suit ever since quarantine became the norm * sounds about right !
Type 5 for sure 🗣
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Fives don't like duties, responsibilities and obligations.
5w4, all 10 of these things were pretty accurate for me. The only thing I'd add is that although I do love learning from tv and movies, I'm also a big fan of fairly mindless anime. Its nice to turn the brain off once in a while, since I feel like I'm constantly trying to unravel how the world works and figuring out all these big questions 24/7. Also, ask your son if he's into playing around with the feature, google trends. I'm in love with that feature haha, i get the feeling other type fives are/would as well
Love this. I will ask him!
I think I’m a type 5 (maybe) except that I SUCK at math 😂. I think I’m a 5w4 (possibly), I like to deep dive into information and if I get stuck on a subject I’ll stay on it for a long time.
Thanks for this video. I am a 5 but I don't remember my wing but all of this makes sense to me. I am an INFJ as well so I understand everything and so glad my wife understands that.
So awesome that you have a wife that understands you. So important for type 5s.
Clothing for a 5 must be comfortable, functional, and easy to pick out. Observations from having a sister, husband, and son who 5s
So true!!! My son wears adidas joggers and tshirts. Every single day.
Same jeans, same t-shirt but in different colors, tennis shoes 5w6
But not all type fives, I'm type five and I love fashion and make up. I have studied and researched it so much it's crazy. I know my body type, hair type, face shape. I know what colors and shapes look best, I know which countries have the best sunscreen and I know which countries give the best Bikini tans. It is because I'm type five I even went this far, Type five is a personality but it doesn't predict your hobbies and interests.
Yeah this is me. I took an enneagram workshop today and I got a 5. I got this detailed overview too and it’s trippy his spot on it was. Now I’m doing all the research.
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This is amazingly accurate
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This is scarily relatable.
LOL
Truth over feelings
Every 5 said 🙌😂
I’m a 5w4 so I like to stand out with my clothes, but usually similar styles :)
Makes sense! ❤️
I’m definitely a type 5w4 but I swing to 5w6, even as far as 7 and I scored really high as a type 1 as well. I honestly think I’ve spent so much time learning many things over the years, that I’ve picked up traits from other types.
Loving the channel..
I’ve-very recently gotten into enneagram and I’m a 5w4/6 (INTP-A (Fe/Si ) sexual…
Basically all of this!!!! I couldn’t encapsulate me any more succinctly that all these points if I tried.
Yay!!!!
It’s MEEEE! I was sure I was a 5 but lately I’ve been wondering if I’m actually a 1, but watching this confirmed it. The point about getting really focused and hate interruptions really hit me - this happens to me at work, when someone asks to have a meeting while I’m working on tasks my brain is scattered and I’m kind of harsh/cold because I can’t switch focus. I have to sort of “close” one thought/focus before I can move to the next.
In regards to sign 6, I spent so much time learning about how cell phones, the internet, and data storage works just because I use it a lot and wanted to know, literally for no other reason.
That's awesome!
I feel like these apply to 5w6 more
As a 5w4 I disagree with most of these things. At least to some extent.
Loved the video! As a 5 I can say that law school has defenitely been right up my alley, so maybe that's a possible career too.
I can see that! My brother who is a 5 would have been an amazing lawyer. I say go for it!
All of these are spot on its freaking hilarious
This is so relatable! I absolutely love documentaries (especially about medicine or history). I actually didn't really understand because I really do need to understand before I can do anything. Like I think everything is interesting to understand, I love every topic from history to technical stuff to (my favorite) biology. I am really swinging between the 4 or 5 but this really hits home because this is basically everything I've always been struggling with since I was small.
I also get really bored when things are intellectually not challenging and I usually go to a 7 (avoiding responsibility and only wanting to do 'fun' stuff).
I really need to think about this more. 🤔😂thnx for the vid
Not me watching this after listening to a podcast called “how stuff works” LOL
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When she said she didn’t care about learning how to world works, I was so surprised. It never occurred to me that other types don’t have that desire
I took one of those tests, and my results were a type 5. My Meyers Briggs results were INFP. Even though I prefer facts over feelings, I feel as if I'm in touch with my emotions, but don't really know how to express them. When I was younger, I experienced emotions a lot stronger, but you can only get hurt so many times to where you learn to shut them off when bad things happen. I don't know if that makes any sense. I guess the point I'm trying to make is even though I'm emotionally available, I feel as if by others knowing I'm a type 5, people will believe I'm not emotionally available.
INFPs feel intense emotions but they are introverted so they also are not good at expressing them because have Fi. As a 5w4 intp I feel intense emotions at times too but I can logically explain my emotions once I actually figure out what I’m feeling( this can take days, weeks, years) because of my Ti and I don’t take it personally if people don’t agree with my emotions
OMG I ENVY THOSE BOOKS - INTP 5w6 so/sp
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My father is a researcher and always immersed and in love w science and our culture’s history, all these signs represent his behaviour at home
So ironic that your son is born on the day of love❤️
This is so true i don't know much about physics but i loved watching about physics I'm a 5w6 and I switch from 5 to 6 when planning my career then go back to 5 to synthesize them
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I often deliberate between deciding if I'm a 6 or a 5, and this video definitely helped me realize I'm probz a 6 with a strong 5 wing. Signs 4-10 are SO real for me, but my engagement with the world is slightly more dictated by a need for certainty than understanding how things work. Often times, I'll panic about what or how I should spend my time researching instead of following the distinct answers I want, which feels so 6w5 to me lol (Or I'm just a perfectionist). I'm very much a devil's advocate, but I often prioritize allowing the other person to save face or saving face myself before questioning things aloud. Thanks for helping me put those questions to rest!
So good! Sounds like you are spot on with you type!
My husband says, "She saw my bookshelf." He's a programming instructor.
Also, has his cubby of t-shirts and just takes the one on top until they are gone and then does laundry. Very simple wardrobe.
That’s awesome!
Not me, literally teaching myself to program and giggling about how thrilled that Java and Machine Learning book made me feel. Also, yes to documentaries. And also RUclips in general is great for learning.
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I got 9 out of 10 and can totally can relate, I scored typed 5 on the enneagram several times. I can do small talk as an INFJ and as I am friendly to be kind. But yes, I relate to all the others. In small talk I often I can get sarcastic and they shut up! I get awkward and they walk away. Nothing serious. I just can’t stand fake people. 😂
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Love your videos! 💜 I have a few 5’s in my life and this was very helpful.
I'm so glad! Thank you!
I love 5s. Maybe it’s because I spent so much of my life living as one, but dang, a discussion with a 5 just is invigorating, inspires me to go do things.
This week, I listened to Elon Musk on clubhouse, and he goes on a little bit about his life growing up, and it felt like a glimpse into the making of a 5. Then he went on to hijack the interview by bringing on his own guest to interview, Vlad Tenev of Robinhood, potentially another 5, but one who seems less secure in himself than Elon Musk is.
I’ve also seen some fascinating arguments that Einstein may have been a type 9! That is definitely an interesting rabbit hole, and I don’t know what to think there!
So interesting that Einstein could have been a 9! I can see this. And I agree I love 5s too!
Yesssssss! I love those in depth discussions too. Also, as for Einstein part, i think it's easy to Mistype people when examining them because only they can truly tell what their core is like and our deductions are based on what side of them we see. I'm an ambivert and people usually mistype me as a 1w9 but I'm a balanced 5 i know because i really need a good alone time after a vigorous social situation. Also, i learnt how to socialise growing up as a necessity and studied psychology to understand myself and others around me. I think that's the most type 5 thing to ever do. :p
I’m a type 5 and I identified with all of these. However, the last one made me smile. I’ve learned to embrace my sarcastic and cynical side, much to my benefit and others amusement.
😎. 👏🏼. 👏🏼. This was great!!!!! Number 10 had me just cracking up hehehe. Yup, lots going on in our heads, and likely best not all of it comes out! 🤣. Really enjoyed this. Your son is lucky to have such an awesome mom that understands him. Sandy
Awww you are so sweet! Thank you! So happy you enjoyed it!
The small talk thing very accurate
Detective. Nailed it.
My partner is a 5 and I giggled when you mentioned them wearing the same clothes almost every day. So true. She doesn't really value privacy though. Her focus is so deep when she's into something that we could throw a party around her and she wouldn't even know.
Great video. My son is a 5. Hes an engineering major. Thank you for sharing.
That is awesome!
I have Peter Thiel’s Zero to One and also some books about Java! This helps me confirm that I am a 5 indeed haha!
Haha! Love it!
Hi Hillary! How are you? I'm a 5w6, and suddenly I got really interested in Medicine. Do you think, based on my enneagram, that I could be a good surgeon?
Hi Eduarda! Yes that would be a great job for a 5w6.
I'm a contractor who does work on behalf of a federal agency. I sometimes have to dig for information on the Internet and follow breadcrumbs. I like that aspect of my work and feel a real sense of accomplishment when I successfully find the information that I need, especially if someone has tried to hide that information.
Resonate with this all! You left out Stephen king, Stephen hawking, Jane Goodall, Tim Burton, Dali, Elkhart Tolle etc
Maybe I am type 5, (i’m new to this) 😄 I like science so much and everything makes me curious. I dont really read that much only the things that picks my interest, but I always see to it that I get a perfect explaination to all my why questions. I wonder always in everything that I see, how it works and I’m so open minded. I’m still confused of my enneagram if I’m 5 or 4 type. I’m kinda good in art, but not to the extent that i express it through my feelings and emotions.
My Mbti personality test is INTJ-T.
As a Type 5 before clicking on the video: Dreads the accurate logic behind this video
Cynical? Sarcastic? Me? But I am a sweet angel that would never advocate for the devil. I mean, I am the devil after all, but...
OOP. Said the quiet part loud. CURSE YOU, WING 4!!
Great stuff. Everything but the first one applied to me, but the first one is for other reasons than being a 5. Great video as always!
You are a favorite of mine! I love your comments! You are so funny! This was gold.
@@enneagramandcoaching Me? (looks around) You mean me? Are... Are you sure? I am the devil, after all. I make mean cakes.
Thank you for all of the content! I always look forward to seeing what you have lined up next and how you will expose my poor black heart to kindness and emotions and those ... (shudders) ... FEELINGS you humans keep talking about.
@@MatthewEaton OMG! I look forward to your comments! I'm am dying over this one! How the heck are you so funny??? I read you comments out loud to my friends! They are that good.
@@enneagramandcoaching Umm... Well, there is place where you can purchase a humor upgrade. It is very secret, only 5s really know where it is--
WING 4!! Stop saying the quiet parts loud! They will find out. You know... THEM... The ... (shudders) ... HUMANS.
A lot of practice and a troubled past makes me quick with wit and knowledge. Thank you for the kind words! I am glad I can entertain.
@@MatthewEaton I just sit here and laugh hysterically. SO DANG FUNNY.
Im a 5w6 and everyone of these apply to me and i even want to be a detective.
Wow!!! So awesome!
Facts are clearly more important than feelings on most important issues one deals with in life.
Facts first, feelings second.
And that whole "facts don't care about your feelings "?.......yeah.....it's true.
LOL! Love this. So true for the type 5!
@@enneagramandcoaching But also objectively true. 😉
Haha! True!
I’m an INTP and it seems like I’m type 5 yet I avoid conflict like the plague as a type 9s do.
that might be your Fe-inferior
I didn't want to be a 5 because in all descriptions they seem very shy and hating social life. But in some videos, like yours, fives are not presented this way - thank you for this 🤍 I love to take my time dressing up and putting on makeup, but the rest is very much like you described. Btw I'm an Artificial Intelligence Lead and I love my job, please tell your son to go in this direction, it will fulfill his life 😍
Wow! I love this! Thank you for sharing! And yes my son would LOVE that job!
E5 job = corporate accounting/law 😂.
E5 wardrobe = spot on 👏👍.
Very nice explanation.
According to the enneagram test I am a type 5 and I am drawn to reading and get excited when I have the book but then I never get to it.
I can relate to a lot of this. I’ve found that sometimes people don’t want to even consider worst-case scenarios and get annoyed when negative possibilities are brought up - they view it as being a “naysayer”. Also analysis paralysis can be a real problem.
Peter Thiel’s name is likely pronounced “Teel”. The H is silent in german (like the name Thomas) and the “ie” makes and “ee” sound.
LOL! Thanks! I appreciate this.
Ok , i just recently found out about this enneagram stuff, so i took an online test. It indicated i was a 5, with a big ol wedge for 9. I have been a software developer for over 30 years, i do like science, tech, superheroes, etc.
One thing is, it is not that your friends come to you with problems, as you may not have any friends. Your coworkers certainly will. I think a 5 can be a loner type, although he is smart enough to be sociable, it is just not a priority to be a socialte.
And i do not think anyone can imagine what goes on in his head. He is often told he does not make sense, he has no depth, he is not known, etc. The world does not understand him, and can be cruel to him, except, of course, when it needs him. And the resourceful innovator thT he is, he will usually come to the rescue.
I'm 100% sure I'm a type 5 but I've never really understood this concept of "energy" when it comes to being around other people or being alone. In classic type 5 fashion it's frustrating to find a concept so impenetrable and I overthink EVERYTHING so I'm sure I'm overthinking energy as well but if anyone with a less chaotic brain can help me unpack it it would be much appreciated!
And yes I DID google it XD It did help a bit but I'm still unsure.
I’d be interested to know what other type 5s have to say about this too!
@desertrosereads Perfect description, thank you very much! I 100% relate to that, I feel like my brain works when I'm alone and it just dies completely thinking of things to say to people XD
Not sure if I’m a 5 or 6. I never in a million years thought I could be a 6, but the listener to a podcast that said something else than just the normal 6 being a loyalist, rule following person who fears everything and are people pleasers. I feel like sixes gets a bad rep and maybe that’s why I don’t want to see myself as one. I’ve watched your videos on mistyping but I would love some more in depth 5 or 6. How are they very similar and how do they differ?
I would love to do a video on the 5 vs 6. I will look into it! Thanks for sharing your insight. So good.
So, I just watched the reaction video to this and once again the #10 Sarcasm just cracks me up. I don't know why I relate to this specific one so much, I mean I don't necessarily think of sarcasm and the positive side of 5 but find it hilarious that I go to 5 in growth and I identify with this one thing especially about not saying it but certainly thinking it.
LOL!!!! Love that you watched Jeremys reaction video!
I enjoy trades. I'm a female construction worker and I repair operators and garage doors etc. Lots of manual labor. I also enjoy psychology and philosophy, history, science, productivity and oddly, sports science and physical therapy, health, agriculture etc. I'm very active and also love learning. I enjoy what I do, but also because I can be alone with my podcasts playing while I work
I can relate to hating small talk. It's awkward, stressful, boring. But I can talk all day about something deep or interesting
I’m a half type 5, half type 1. I’m also an INFJ, I can tell when something is wrong in a room like a sixth sense. I definitely prefer feeling over thought, but I don’t like putting extra effort into food or clothing. Yep I use Google for everything, unless someone needs wisdom, then I tell them truthful caring thoughts.
You conclusion to the video just made me go “what if I’m not a 5 I just relate” *sigh* more research 😂
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5w6, data analyst
Woot! Woot!
Exact description of my friend😂
Yup, agree with so much there, but I'm one INTJ-A Type 5(sp)w6 that is a preschool teacher! I love working with kids! They are as interested in stuff as I am (I still feel like a kid and I'm 60) and so I get to spend my day leading investigations into just about everything and also help them learn to make order from their chaos...and I get paid to do it!! WIN!
and yes, my closet is filled with sets of 'uniforms' as an ex once called them....several of same things in diff colors, plus some 'accent' sweaters/skirts in patterns that go with all the solid color pieces (all of them, not just some of them so I can literally grab and go and not sweat it)...I have 4 backpack purses in same styles/diff colors too...only my shoes truly vary, LOL!
and I joke I'm the "Spare Sister", the cerebral one the two partiers only come to when they're freaked out over something and need to be talked down from the proverbial ledge.
I'm not in any doubt: when I was typed as a 5w4 I cried because of the painful accuracy. I also cried because because I was _horrified_
What does "observe their own emotions rather than experiencing them" mean?
5w4 here (probably sx/so, though the jury's still out on that one) and INTJ. The famous type 5s I resonate most with are Jane Austen and Friedrich Nietzsche, though I don't necessarily agree with everything either of them says. I'm also very much not a fan of Elon Musk.
I'm also not a typical 5 because I get bored with math and I've never been interested in computers or programming. I do want to learn why things work and I've always asked "why" way too much and gotten into so much trouble in both school and church growing up. I like to be challenged in my thinking and have my assumptions questioned, especially if they're not logically or factually sound.
With small talk, I've always enjoyed making a bit of a game from it. I like trying to see how well I can direct the "small talk" conversation into something that I'm interested in, without the other people catching on. For an easy thing, get people talking about their pets, if they have any. It's honestly much more tolerable than talking about the weather or whatnot and I've found that most people like talking about their pets.
This describes me well. I believe that im a 479 tritype, 4w5. I do strongly relate to the 5 type. I do relate to Einstein, Elon Musk, Bill Gates, and i have a strong interest in computer technology.
I definitely think there is a wide range of behaviors and preferences for every type depending on so many different factors. I am for sure a five because of my cores, but not in the sense of learning scientific facts or random facts that have nothing to do with what I want to know. Like I love learning more about people and the mind and why we do what we do and stuff like that. And I most definitely love awkward moments and situations because it allows me to question why it’s so awkward and sends me into a whole other spiral of thought lol
I definitely related to #2, 4, 6, and 8
Absolutely true! Thanks for sharing this! When you said you love awkward moments I had to stop and think about my type 5 son and I think he’s the same 😂
5, INTJ, Virgo . It’s like you’re in my head. Sounds like you have a rad son.
One type 5 I can relate to and am very interested in is Carl Gustav Jung
Love it!
Signs #2, #3, #5 and #7 are more like 5w6, to which 5w4s may not relate.