This is a great epiphany video, and you are absolutely right. To round up all you said there is something really important to add: the long axis of the ellipse is perpendicular to the axis of vision, and that is why it is more inclined in very hight views as in aerial views. It is vertical if you look at the weels lowering your eyes to "weel level" I could only understand this after watching your video, si thanks Liron!
@@LironYan isn't everything younsaid ambiguous? The whole time I thought the line connecting the two tires referred to the teontires onnthe SAME side of the car..like front passenger and back passenger onnthe right side for example..doesn't this apply also..because the axis of the tire could be turned in any direction not just perpendicular to that axis that crosses from one side of of car to the other..
Wow... props to you sir. I've been drawing for... (lets just say many many) years. And in all the years of art classes that I took, this was something never taught. But this does make a lot of sense. Always something new to learn no matter how old you are! Cheers!
Oh wow. I'm so blown away. That is exactly what I was constantly wondering how to fix my car's tire issues. Thank you so much. That video made my day. I now need to put that into action.
You're right about the wheel's ellipse axis: Must be tilted to become strictly perpendicular with the rotation axis (on the paper). But wrong about that yellow line (that axis), joining both rear wheels: It is NOT parallel with your "red line", because both are converging to the vanishing point, therefore can NOT be parallel. You have to tilt the yellow line a bit also...
Cool! I knew the vertical ovals were wrong, and read some quite complex explanations of how to do circles in perspective right. This is much simpler and practical! I will practice this and stick it on the pinboard over my drawing table! I just put my empty glass on its side and study the top with one eye closed...🤣
I knew about the slant.. but I never knew how much to slant. Until now. 👍👍. Thanks so much for this little but extremely valuable piece of information. I can already see my arches when I draw architecture improving drastically.
Yes! So happy you found another application for this 😁 Arches have another trick to them, that you may be aware of - finding the center of the arch, and then connecting the sides. I can also show that in a future vid. Thank you for watching 😊🙏🏼
Excellent excellent reminder. I can’t say how many times I have done that even painting the wrong perspective. I just leave the tires out of my mind then when the perspective fits I readd in the tires. That approach helped me a lot. I could really show some bigtime oops in this. Please stay safe!
You probably won’t see this and I don’t even know how to explain it but I’ve been watching videos upon videos today trying to figure out how to draw the head and that minor comment where you related the side of the head to the 3d cylinder is the best thing that has happened to me today. Made all the hours spent worth it and I just want to say thank you very very very much.
OMG!! Actually had an...AH HA!!! Moment when my brain understood what you mean....the implications for portraits is incredible for me, as I've always struggled with perspective..... thanks so much!!!!
Haha so happy to hear 😁😁 Yes! The side of the face is a round flat plane! Which changes everything. I should do that follow-up vid, showing where this can also be applied other than cars 🎨😉
This is fantastic! Thanks Liron! I always thought I understood perspective and usually don‘t have a problem with it but this is mind-blowing! Hadn‘t noticed this before and nobody ever pointed this out. Thanks for this great - and so simple - explanation!
Fantastic tip thanks. Explains why I struggle with the wheels if I’m not drawing from a reference and even then I can trick myself into getting this wrong.
You explained it nicely and simply! I have always struggled to sit through books that breaks down perspectives of cars, but you made it very digestible and straight to the point. Now I understand more about long axis and notice in my drawing where I got it wrong! You're a legend! ♥️
This method is very effective but it also relies on your ability to pinpoint where the axle is compared to the car in perspective. An easier way is to draw a box in perspective where the wheel goes, trace the diagonals and use them as the two axis for the oval. I think this method is more effective because you know you want the oval to touch all 4 sides of the box.
It’s interesting to me because before u even mentioned it i could see the tilt so i guess thats a good first step in learning to draw cars is good observation
I didn’t know this either. And it took all your examples to help me really believe it. So now-how does this apply to other ovals-faces, building arches etc? What line does the perpendicular come off of??
Thanks Liron! Looking forward to the video with eyebrows and eyes perspective. I find very difficult to draw almond ovals of eyes on 3/4 portrait view. Thanks!!
Hey good piece of information. It's true whenever I draw car and thier tyres are always not in shape. But frankly it didn't understood much in ur quick video. Do share a detailed technical video on this
Hello friend! Great content! I struggled with those angles, your explanations are EPIC! Thank you! I bought your books on Amazon!💕 As i read « every word » I was “drawn” (pun intended) into trying everything. The books were like conversations with you... totally approachable. Thank you for writing your thoughts down in book form... the only history we leave behind is the one we document in picture or word form. You are leaving quite a legacy!!!! Blessings! Going to read the Perpective in a Weekend... this weekend. :)
Liron, this is Shyam. Thanks for this video. I am struggling how to draw car in perspective. Especially it is difficult how to draw the car wheels. I hope you do more videos on this topic.
I struggle with drawing cubes from real life. I completely understand the geometry of how it should work, yet it takes me many trials and errors and way too much time to get them looking right. they always look too shallow or too nattow. could you do a video showing how to do cubes that look proportional on all side?
yea there's a bit of positive rear camber in classic 500s .. imagine drawing some other newer hatchbacks that come with negative toe and negative camber in the rear or similar alignment... a pain in the ass. Edit: just how you trapped the car in a cube you need to trap the front and rear wheels in a long axis.
Thank you! This is very interesting and helpful. Would you have any advice on how to adjust the perspective when combining two different objects from different reference photos?
Well this makes going through dynamic sketching less intimidating. I couldn't find any lessons on cylinders especially how they relate to tires. Would be nice to know how it changes when the wheel is turned.
:00 I'm currently strugling with wheels, I'm able to draw the rest of the car, but wheels always look off, well, now I know why, My brain just made click. Thank you so much :D :D
well, i knew it from my very first perspective year, i wonder what is people in the comments using to study... however its great to have videos like this. i recommend to study from books like the scott robertson ones
The axle is NOT parallel to the red line at the rear of the car (in the first example); it extends to the right-side vanishing point. The only way it could be parallel is if you viewed the car from directly overhead.
One tutorial said:paint what you see, not the way you think it should be. Liron, would it help , in this case, if the artist turned the picture upside down to prevent misreprentation ?
This is a great epiphany video, and you are absolutely right.
To round up all you said there is something really important to add: the long axis of the ellipse is perpendicular to the axis of vision, and that is why it is more inclined in very hight views as in aerial views.
It is vertical if you look at the weels lowering your eyes to "weel level"
I could only understand this after watching your video, si thanks Liron!
Great observation! The perspective lines flattens as we lower our point of view, and so the long axis becomes vertical! Thank you for sharing 😊🙏🏼
@@LironYan isn't everything younsaid ambiguous? The whole time I thought the line connecting the two tires referred to the teontires onnthe SAME side of the car..like front passenger and back passenger onnthe right side for example..doesn't this apply also..because the axis of the tire could be turned in any direction not just perpendicular to that axis that crosses from one side of of car to the other..
Wow... props to you sir. I've been drawing for... (lets just say many many) years. And in all the years of art classes that I took, this was something never taught. But this does make a lot of sense. Always something new to learn no matter how old you are! Cheers!
I spent 2 years at art school and I've learned MORE from RUclipsrs like Liron than I ever did there. Literally wasted 2 years of my life.
Hear hear!
marshall vandruff prspective series. watch his lectures on perspective.
Don' t be negative. If now you learned then show some gratitude @@sheranlanger247
Oh wow. I'm so blown away. That is exactly what I was constantly wondering how to fix my car's tire issues. Thank you so much. That video made my day. I now need to put that into action.
You're right about the wheel's ellipse axis: Must be tilted to become strictly perpendicular with the rotation axis (on the paper).
But wrong about that yellow line (that axis), joining both rear wheels: It is NOT parallel with your "red line", because both are converging to the vanishing point, therefore can NOT be parallel.
You have to tilt the yellow line a bit also...
Cool! I knew the vertical ovals were wrong, and read some quite complex explanations of how to do circles in perspective right. This is much simpler and practical!
I will practice this and stick it on the pinboard over my drawing table!
I just put my empty glass on its side and study the top with one eye closed...🤣
Haha so happy this helps 😁 And that’s a great way of practicing! Take a photo of the glass too - it will help you really see the effect
I knew about the slant.. but I never knew how much to slant. Until now. 👍👍. Thanks so much for this little but extremely valuable piece of information. I can already see my arches when I draw architecture improving drastically.
Yes! So happy you found another application for this 😁 Arches have another trick to them, that you may be aware of - finding the center of the arch, and then connecting the sides. I can also show that in a future vid. Thank you for watching 😊🙏🏼
Liron, I hope you and your loved ones are staying safe under the current circumstances. May God bless and protect you. Love from the US.
my whole world has been changed in like 5 minutes wow. It is so easily explained too, thank you so much! No more wonky wheels!
Excellent excellent reminder. I can’t say how many times I have done that even painting the wrong perspective. I just leave the tires out of my mind then when the perspective fits I readd in the tires. That approach helped me a lot. I could really show some bigtime oops in this. Please stay safe!
You probably won’t see this and I don’t even know how to explain it but I’ve been watching videos upon videos today trying to figure out how to draw the head and that minor comment where you related the side of the head to the 3d cylinder is the best thing that has happened to me today. Made all the hours spent worth it and I just want to say thank you very very very much.
OMG!! Actually had an...AH HA!!! Moment when my brain understood what you mean....the implications for portraits is incredible for me, as I've always struggled with perspective..... thanks so much!!!!
Haha so happy to hear 😁😁
Yes! The side of the face is a round flat plane! Which changes everything.
I should do that follow-up vid, showing where this can also be applied other than cars 🎨😉
Oh my gosh, I just tried to draw a car in my sketchbook and wrote “I suck at cars” on my page. Thanks for sharing.
So many years of struggle! Sir, you are a lifesaver!!! Thank you very much
Hope you and your dear ones are safe and well. Love from Stockholm
This is fantastic! Thanks Liron! I always thought I understood perspective and usually don‘t have a problem with it but this is mind-blowing! Hadn‘t noticed this before and nobody ever pointed this out. Thanks for this great - and so simple - explanation!
Happy to help 😁🙏🏼 Thank you for watching! There are plenty of small tips like this one. Will try and share more
Wow! You are awesome! It is so obvious when you show it! I painted a 57 Chevy for my dad- I can’t wait to go check it out!😃
Thank you. Now it makes total sense why I have been struggling with wonky looking wheels on my car sketches. Keep up the great work on your videos.
Cars are my favorite thing to draw, and they are now all wrong. hahahah... Now I must fix them. Thanks for the great video sharing your expertise.
Fantastic tip thanks. Explains why I struggle with the wheels if I’m not drawing from a reference and even then I can trick myself into getting this wrong.
Thank you John! Very happy this helps 🙏🏼😁
now that you've shown it, it seems so obvious. yet I never noticed it before. thanks so much.
I had no idea about this, and this is going to forever change my drawings and art, thank you!!!
Thank you so much 😁🙏🏼 Very happy this helps haha! And hopefully things get better here soon
This applies if your oval if its in a plane, if you have convex or concave the oval deforms
Well explained ty.
You explained it nicely and simply! I have always struggled to sit through books that breaks down perspectives of cars, but you made it very digestible and straight to the point. Now I understand more about long axis and notice in my drawing where I got it wrong! You're a legend! ♥️
Really helpfull! I hope at some point you'll make a longer video about this subject.
Will do my friend! 🙏🏼😊
This is really helpful, thank you for clarifying!
I would assume a solution to involve a lot more boxes and cylinders in perspective. This is so simple and straightforward, thanks for sharing
Wow.. just wow.. I always get tyres wrong and never understood where am going wrong.. thank you so much for simplifying it
this is insanely valuable info thank you so much for giving us all of this for free
I would never have known to even look at that, but now that I know it makes so much sense! Thank you! I'm learning so much from watching this channel.
This method is very effective but it also relies on your ability to pinpoint where the axle is compared to the car in perspective. An easier way is to draw a box in perspective where the wheel goes, trace the diagonals and use them as the two axis for the oval. I think this method is more effective because you know you want the oval to touch all 4 sides of the box.
Extremely detailed video thanks for this!!
I~didn't~know~this~.....really learn a lot from you, love the way how you teach!😸
It’s interesting to me because before u even mentioned it i could see the tilt so i guess thats a good first step in learning to draw cars is good observation
Thanks🍃
This tip was so helpful. Thank you.
EUREKA!!!!! Amazing video...I could never figure out what was off...now I know😁 I hope you and your loved ones are safe!
Haha thank you Monty! 😊🙏🏼 Very happy to hear. We’re doing out best and hopefully the situation gets better soon ❤️
Wow! What a great discovery!!! Thank you!
Great tip! I had never considered this before
Thank you so much for sharing, it does really help.
More like this please
I didn’t know this either. And it took all your examples to help me really believe it. So now-how does this apply to other ovals-faces, building arches etc? What line does the perpendicular come off of??
Please do online workshop on perspective drawing and cityscapes 🙏
Thanks Liron!
Looking forward to the video with eyebrows and eyes perspective.
I find very difficult to draw almond ovals of eyes on 3/4 portrait view.
Thanks!!
Thank you so much for this lesson.
Hey good piece of information. It's true whenever I draw car and thier tyres are always not in shape. But frankly it didn't understood much in ur quick video. Do share a detailed technical video on this
Wellllll.... This video is exactly one day too late 🤭 😆😁
It's worth a million
Thank you so much for sharing 🙏
Hello friend! Great content! I struggled with those angles, your explanations are EPIC! Thank you! I bought your books on Amazon!💕 As i read « every word » I was “drawn” (pun intended) into trying everything. The books were like conversations with you... totally approachable. Thank you for writing your thoughts down in book form... the only history we leave behind is the one we document in picture or word form. You are leaving quite a legacy!!!! Blessings! Going to read the Perpective in a Weekend... this weekend. :)
Thank you, Liron. This is an incredibly helpful video.
Liron, this is Shyam. Thanks for this video. I am struggling how to draw car in perspective. Especially it is difficult how to draw the car wheels. I hope you do more videos on this topic.
Love your content sir
Thank you so much 🙏♥
Thank you... beautiful perspective
Mate. Thanks heaps for this. Now i know what I've done wrong so many times. I can use this for other drawings as well. Cheers.
the oval will always shrink along the axis by 90 degrees. Thank you for the lesson!
I struggle with drawing cubes from real life. I completely understand the geometry of how it should work, yet it takes me many trials and errors and way too much time to get them looking right. they always look too shallow or too nattow. could you do a video showing how to do cubes that look proportional on all side?
Thank you! I never would have even thought of that!!
Just drew a car and struggled a bit with the tyres, probably that's why .. thank you for sharing
Wow, Thank you so much for sharing this! What a great explanation.
Well… I learned something new… do you have a video on drawing the head / figure in perspective?
Thank you! This is probably the closest (:
ruclips.net/video/PuZceN6pOlk/видео.html
(it's a livestream, but discusses exactly this topic)
yea there's a bit of positive rear camber in classic 500s .. imagine drawing some other newer hatchbacks that come with negative toe and negative camber in the rear or similar alignment... a pain in the ass. Edit: just how you trapped the car in a cube you need to trap the front and rear wheels in a long axis.
Thank you ☺️ Liron, you explain something so obvious and yet who notices. Very helpful 👍
Oh wow, this is so helpful. Thank you, Liron!
Thank you! This is very interesting and helpful. Would you have any advice on how to adjust the perspective when combining two different objects from different reference photos?
Always blows my mind
😁
Thank you Liron. I think I’ve got my head round that now. Hadn’t even thought about it before!
Well this makes going through dynamic sketching less intimidating. I couldn't find any lessons on cylinders especially how they relate to tires. Would be nice to know how it changes when the wheel is turned.
Thank you! Will try to make a video on that in the future 🙏😊
Thank you!!
Learned a lot in this 8mins 👍
Thank you I'm happy to see you. Been 🙏
Oh, yeah, I've definitely fallen into that trap! Thanks so much, Liron! 👍
😊🙏🏼
Brilliant.
Great video. You are a wonderful teacher and the topics you select are very helpful. Thanks!
Oh my goodness! Thanks so much!
Liron!! Super amazing-- what fun ☺️☺️☺️
So helpful!
Thanks allot dear sir
Find this video very helpful
yes, a lot of people stumble on this) Сlearly explained everything!
You always emphasize on drawing which is so so important for painting...like sharpening chisel by a woodcarver!
Yes, I was. All my tires look like they're about to fall off. Thanks, Liron.
:00 I'm currently strugling with wheels, I'm able to draw the rest of the car, but wheels always look off, well, now I know why, My brain just made click. Thank you so much :D :D
well, i knew it from my very first perspective year, i wonder what is people in the comments using to study... however its great to have videos like this. i recommend to study from books like the scott robertson ones
Game changer
That is really helpful, liron.
Thank-you sir it is very helpful
Woahhhh.......I never noticed that. Thank you!
Haha happy to help! ^_^
Finally! I now what I have been doing wrong. THANK YOU
2400 views so far and only 300 likes is not fair....guys please like and motivate such genuine artist and a teacher🙏🙏
Great lesson, as always. 😊👍
Thank you!
The axle is NOT parallel to the red line at the rear of the car (in the first example); it extends to the right-side vanishing point. The only way it could be parallel is if you viewed the car from directly overhead.
You are soooo smart - it will take awhile to get this
thank you
One tutorial said:paint what you see, not the way you think it should be. Liron, would it help , in this case, if the artist turned the picture upside down to prevent misreprentation ?
Super helpful:))
Oh wow. Thank you for this.
That is so smart actually
That was a surprise! Thanks Liron. Interesting 🤔
God bless you...I saw this video two times
is tilted in because of the 3rd vp or is it really supposed to be technically tilted??
Excellent