This was literally my introduction to the F1. I was always fascinated with F1 but I never knew where to watch it here in the US (hate that I missed Michael Schumacher's run). At some point I switched cable providers and suddenly I had The Speed Channel. The first time I turned to it was in the middle of this qualifying session, and the rest is history.
Same. 2006 for me tho. I still recall seeing Schumi's last race at Ferarri. Kinda cool in hindsight. '07 was my first full season. It's amazing to see how many new fans F1 has made since Drive To Survive on Netflix. I had no idea that show had that kinda of impact until recently. NASCAR was my first love and I'm kind of hoping NASCAR can get that allure back of some sort, with the introduction of their new Netflix series.
Alonso is still a muppet for what he did though. He not only cost his team points but he was relegated to 6th. That was stupid. If you want to show your superiority do it in the race.
@@liamthompson2604 Hamilton caused that by not yielding the extra qualy lap as agreed (they were taking turns that season, it was a Alonso's turn). Then McLaren had their part when they complained to FIA about their own driver. Like WTF
@@bgotura It was payback for Monaco and for things Fernando was saying in the press at the time. Lewis finally for once grew a pair and he perfectly got back at Fernando.
What a season. Would love to see both Alonso and Hamilton in competitive cars again juking it out for the world the championship. Maybe with Raikkonen in the mix too.
I didnt like Alonso very much and i am spanish but in 2006 the sanction for blocking Massa in practice showed me that maybe he was right when he talked about that F1 isnt a sport and When i saw this i just could said you are the fucking boss man! to be able to mentally calculate the pace to pass the line with 0 seconds and put Hamilton out.
Gotta love commentors justifying Hamilton ignoring team orders to fulfil his own agenda and then going bananas for Alonso doing the same thing... Talk about hypocrisy
MrLulzs Not really, Alonso was pushing for a 1st position against what he considered a rookie who only deserved a 2nd support position to the team leader. Actively blocking him in the pits is just out of order, on track Hamilton was on a fast lap and Alonso was nowhere near him, so the order to pass was mostly irrelevant. In the end it was more Alonso media drama rather than anything else.
Team agreement was that each driver would alternate who went out first in Q3 (due to fuel and advantage of less fuel at the time). Hungry was Alonsos turn to go out first. Lewis ignored that and placed his car at the pit exit ahead. Alonso returned the favour by holding him on the pit stop ensuring he ran out of time. Whole incident started by Lewis not being a team player resulting in Alonso getting penalised. The (British) media sided with Lewis and made him out to be the victim. Showed his true jack colours even back then. But to be a world champ, you have to be utterly ruthless.
Not only that, but the penalty cost Alonso pole. A strange penalty considering it was an internal team issue. I can't think of the stewards doling out similar penalties since. Similarly, I can't think of another time when a car was lifted out of the gravel by crane and allowed to rejoin the race, as happened to Hamilton that year. In the end, Hamilton won the race and Alonso got 4th place due to grid penalty. If not for that, Alonso would have been the clear WDC. Not to take away from Hamilton's achievement as a rookie that year, but the oft touted "Lewis beat Alonso in the same car" comments overlook the above. Two immensely talented drivers either way.
I dont't know why Ron is so annoyed. In the stop Alonso received hard tyres to try pole position, which is a joke, while Ham got the soft (faster than the others). This is only an example of what suffered Alo that year. However i have to say that Ham was so good as Alo that season.
not exactly. alonso was coming from two consecutive world tiles and ham was a rookie but he was under ron dennis for a decade so the team pushed him to the moon as the new hot project and put alonso in the margin a bit. they brought him in to play second role to hamilton thats what i find wrong. they should havr built the team around the two time defendin champion
Nah, they didn't sign Alonso to be the second driver, it would be pure idiocy to pay 50 million to a second driver. Obviously everyone thought Hamilton was going to be much slower than Alonso in his rookie year. When Hamilton turned out to be just as quick, it upset Alonso and the rest is history. Today we know Hamilton is perhaps the quickest driver over one lap on the grid, so it's no surprise that he could match Alonso with the same equipment. In the end both finished on same points.
well... Alonso was wondering why the team gave him hard and used tyres for the last run. (you can see it at 0:38 ) . Thats part of the reason why he hesitated that long. He still managed to beat Hamiltons time so I think this was one of the greatest quali laps in recent time.
*That's not true.* Those tyres were fresh. They were the "prime" or harder compound tyre from Bridgestone which is why they did not have the white stripe of the "option" (softer compound) tyre. Alonso chose the primes because he felt they would hold up better in the hot European summer that year.
@@jaerdalas Bridgestone offered only two tyre choices for 2007-08: option (softer compound) and prime (harder compound). In Australia 2007 the option had a white dot on the sidewall to distinguish it from the prime, but this was difficult to make out during the race. So from Malaysia onwards the option tyre had a white stripe and the prime didn't.
I'm suprised with all the headaches that Ron had to deal with Prost and Senna that he would again hire 2 fast and super aggressive drivers at the same time. Also I think this happened because unlike other teams McLaren will let their drivers actually race each other with no team orders in the way
Actually they clearly favoured Hamilton this year. You just need to see the team reactions when one or the other would win a race. 2007 compromised by other interests that wanted Hamilton to win. Brit team, Brit lobby, Brit future star. Clear as water
@@bild6034 Yes, he was a racist dude, he could have won more championships, but f*cked it up with his nasty agenda That's why I'm happy McLaren is a joke now
F1 V10 right...so why do you think Alonso got kicked out/left the team after 2007 to, back to Renault? Its clear that he fucked up his relationship with the team at that time. Also I've not forgotten about Singapore 2008 (everyone who is not complete idiot, knows fully well that there was NO-WAY that Alonso would have been completely in the dark about his team's plans) and Germany 2010 (the way he tried to weasel himself out of the questions that the reporters/journalists rightfully threw at him about the team-order, he had no backbone whatsoever in that situation to just admit what had happened, even when there was nothing to hide, when everyone had seen and heard what had happened, yet this cunt tried to avoid the questions all together and celebrate his cheap victory like nothing had happened.... So ye, I dont feel any pity for Alonso that he is likely to spend the rest of his career with cars that he has no chance whatsoever to fight for the championships or even for occasional race wins.
Alonso has been dizzy ever since Hamilton beat him in the same car, made him run away from McLaren after only 1 season and then became the McLaren world champion that Alonso failed to be the very next year. Alonso has never ever won a single championship after Hamilton beat him in the same machinery.
I totally congratulate Alonso for this brilliant response to the war he had to face inside the team by the British clique. Alonso for ever and ever!! Taugh, strong and ruthless!!
@@ricardomarin487 2 in a slower car with rule changes being made to make your car and inly your car specifically worse and basically racing flawlessly for 2 years is more impressive than 1 good run and 6 freebies with the fastest and most reliable car and everybody else racing in go karts by comparison.
@@Parker-- 7 by a black man is more impressive. Fernando got whipped by a black man and that will forever haunt him. In the same car and different ones, go cry
@@denzel9086 Why is seven by a black man more impressive just cuz he's black? You don't actually know your shit, because if you knew your shit, you wouldn't be talking shit, because you'd know about Hungary. Not to mention the bullshit luck that season with mechanical failures. With three less races to work with Alonso scored the same number of points. Just answer this: Are you on Ferrari's pit wall? Because you're a fucking clown. 🤣 Now sit down, boy.🤡
@@MT-pv2rf There is literally no reason to penalize Alonso as this did not happen on the track but inside the team itself. It was a prime example of how FIA in the last decade forcefully saw to it that British drivers would always get the benefit of the doubt and all others get penalties according to the rulebook. This continued well into the 2010s.
These two are the greatest pairing for viewers..Both love attention and would do anything to stir the pot to tip the scales in their favor. It's good how F1 has this, kinda like a Young and the Restless F1 version
The problem is even if Hammy is faster, Alonso had already 2 WDC under his belt. So acc. to normal logic, McLaren should have obviously given him privilege and then 2007,2008 WDC for Alonso and McLaren and maybe even more with Alonso still at McLaren. But they made the unforgivable mistake of favoring a rookie, even if he's as fast as hell, over a double champion! A rookie stays a rookie in his 1st year. I still think McLaren are one of the worst team when it comes to strategy. Although my favorite team, their strategies suck big deal. Look at the Malaysian qualifying session this year!
Linternauter Hamilton only has the faster car...If those two were teammates again with Mercedes instead of Rosberg...Shoot...You know Alonso would be wiping the floor with Hammy this year...
Tony Wittrien It's true, Alonso is the best driver on the grid. He came close to winning the championship 2 out of 4 times, and runner up 3 out of 4 times in an inferior car. Of course all great champions win with the best car, but very few can win with a bad car.
Man that will be stupid to favor a WDC than someone who's faster... Look right now in the 2014 season. Vettel is 4 time world champion!!! are redbull going to favor him even if he slower than Ricciardo?? I doubt so: they will favor the fastest in term of doing good result for the team...
I agree and in 2007 they started getting on Hamiltons side and at the last races of the season he choked and they lost the championship to Räikkönen and Ferrari.
numoverper but the thing is unlike vettel this year, Alonso actually delivered, he had more pole position than hamilton, he had the same wins as him, he clearly wouldve won the championship if it weren't for this incident, because he was on pole position.
He was radioed into Alonso. He was able to tell him what time was remaining in the session while he was blocking Hamilton so he would get another flying lap and Hamilton wouldn't be able to make it to the line to start another flying lap himself. They were also communicating in spanish so the Mclaren team didn't know what they were doing till it happened.
I think it would be fun to still have Alonso and Hamilton on the same team battling it out. I like both drivers because of their talents and hard charging style and I wouldn't care who ends up on top but I just know they would put on a great show!
the way this was shown on tv made it seem that ron was angry at alonso for doing that, but what really happened was after alonso had blocked hamilton in the pits hamilton shouted on the radio to ron saying "Don't ever f*cking do that to me again" with ron responding "thats what happens when you don't do what your f*cking told". after that ron threw his headphones down and went to alonso's physio to tell him to go calm alonso down while he goes and try to calm hamilton down.
From my understanding, a drivers physio often has a role in the team doing non technical tasks - i remember seeing webbers physio doing his timing board etc - From memory alonso's physio was watching the clock and let alonso know by radio how long he should wait so that hamilton wouldnt have enough time to do his stop and be able to do another lap - earlier in the session hamilton messed with alonso's lap - tensions were already high between hamilton and alonso at this stage and alonso was angry with mclaren for not ensuring he was number 1 driver. - was my favourite season
At the last qualifying attempt, the mechanics fitted a new set of tires (white line) for Hamilton and a used one for Alonso (no white line) while they should have fitted, as previously agreed, a set of new tires for both. It was for this reason that Alonso lingered, he was asking why he was being fitted with used tires and not new ones.
The same lie, the same narrative. Alonso chose the primes for Q3 because in Q1 and Q2 he reported that his option (white striped ones) tyres were wearing a bit more quickly. He felt that the primes would hold up better throughout the Q3 session.
@@khopu4649 He still races if you haven't noticed. But you are probably implying he didn't have any success. I would say you don't follow motorsports. He won Le Mans which you probably don't know :) but it is also a very respectable championship
@@khopu4649 yes, but not really Now we have Hamilton, the guy with the same number of titles as Schumacher But everyone knows he never earned them Must be sad to have that reputation 😂
This is neither Alonso or Hamiltons fault. Its just the atmosphere of McLaren and its management is fucked up. They could have won atleast 2 more titles before the god awful Honda came in. Why couldnt they just get a good number 2 driver to compliment rather than take away from number one. Kovalinen was great for Hamilton! Alonso Hamilton and Button Hamilton was a bad combination.
Ron Dennis always had some kind of paranoia during the last years with Mercedes, he was bashing them all the time. In the end, it wasn't the engine, it was the chassis, the engineers did a shitty job - but Dennis never would blame his factory.
McLaren that year was like "oh yeah we have signed the world champion so we can win easily next year, but wait, we've already signed a driver that is enrolled to our drivers programme that has to get a spot next year since he won GP2 this season. Oh shit now all we can do is up to how well we spy Ferrari so we can be miles ahead of them so we don't need to worry too much". That's how you lose a world championship.
@@abdullahamir626 fallen? He is currently outperforming your boy and he is in his 40s. Your boy has 7 titles yet Alonso with 2 gathers more respect. Says alot
@mcfp95 If you look at the FIA's website archives for the 2007 F1 Season, you'll see that it lists Hamilton 2nd and Alonso 3rd in the WDC classification. With the countback procedure used to classify drivers with the same number of points, it's quite improbable to end up with a true tie in the standings (and even if countback fails, the FIA can use whatever other criteria it deems fit to separate the drivers).
the only reason lewis was 2nd and alonso third despite being tied on points is because if kimi did not exist at the top, than hamilton would have had won by few more points because he finished more on the higher positions mainly 2nd position and alonso finished 3rd at most times while both winning same number of races
@@RehanX44Alonso would have been WDC on merit if not for the grid penalty he was given for holding Hamilton in the pits. It was strange for the stewards to issue a penalty considering Hamilton held Alonso earlier in the session, and it was an internal team issue. The penalty came long after the session once Hamilton and his father raised the issue in the press. It was clear the team favored him for pole as they fitted used hard tires on Alonso for his pole attempt. The grid penalty gifted Hamilton pole on a notoriously difficult track to pass. This let Hamilton win comfortably from pole while Alonso could only manage fourth. If the qualifying results were held on merit, the race results would be 1-2 Alonso-Hamilton and Alonso would have comfortably been WDC, Kimi 2nd, and Hamilton 3rd. Then again if McLaren didn't botch Hamilton's pit stop in China, he would have been comfortably WDC. 2007 was a mess for McLaren and the results could have gone either way. Both Alonso and Hamilton are two of the greatest drivers the sport has ever seen. Put them in the same car and race the 2007 season again and it could play out a million different ways.
Alonso hizo lo que el equipo acordó que haría. Gracias a la maFIA, el Gaymilton no fue descalificado aquel año en el que vimos que una grúa lo colocó dentro de la pista cuando se había salido. Un paquete tratado con deferencia por el color de su piel y su nacionalidad.
Because of their color and nationality what a stupid justification the reality he never won any title after lewis stepped in F1 is enough alonslow while lewis is on the podium week to week😉
@@mesut7699 McLaren literally gave him the wrong tyres, the FIA has always supported Lewis cause hes british now we see that Alonso owns Carmilton with a good car yall carmilton need to get yall heads outta yo ass
@Frebeemiks Monza 2008. I know Vettel is new but he scored points on his first F1 outing, won the Championship in 2010 and absolutely destroyed here in 2011. Time will tell if he will turn into one of the "all time greats" of F1 but he is without a doubt one of the best on the grid today and an absolutely deserving Double World Champion.
Ultimately Hamilton proved himself to be the better driver. Alonso isn't even in the same postcode statistically. Alonso was just really churlish for the duration of their time at McLaren because he was being outdriven by a rookie.
I agree with everything you said mate. He was doing pretty well this year even though Mclaren srewed him with underfuelling and bad pitstops but he stayed calm about it. Last week i understood his anger but no excuse about the Twitter saga.
he's probably the best racing driver on the grid today, youre making him out to be some kind of demon, its really not the case, i've never heard a driver say a bad word about him (other than maybe hamilton when they were team mates) but even hamilton now has nothing but positive things to say about him
Two things strike me as strange here: 1) Ron Dennis having a go at Hamilton's physiotherapist. What's his physiotherapist got to do with it? 2) I would have thought Hamilton blocking Alonso would be a matter of a McLaren internal investigation, not the FIA?
+elucidate 1) Its Alonsos physiotherapist. I think he was in contact to Alonso, so thats why Ron Dennis took his headphones and his radio. 2) Just because it happened "just" between two teammates, its not internal. This was bad sportsmanship, which had to be punished by the FIA (And Alonso blocked Hamilton, not vice versa)
some people do not know that Budapest 2007 was the revenge for Silverstone 2007. in Silverstone, Alonso should have been allowed to burn fuel for 12 laps, Hamilton only for 11. But Lewis stayed out for 12 laps and thus forced Fernando to pit after only 11 laps. At Budapest, Fernando took revenge. This give quite a good insight regarding how much team mates really "like" each other. What Lewis did at Silverstone, was unsportsmanlike, what Fernando did at Budapest, was unsportsmanlike, too.
Great memory I think, despite the controversy.. and that what makes 2007 became one of the most exciting season of F1... behind 2008 of course, which is more exciting!
The 2008 is even more controversial. It has been revealed that The Troll Bernie Eccelstone was I'd formed that Piquet crashed on purpose before the season ended. B.E. didn't want the bad publicity for the sport, so he sat on it. What should have happened is that the results of the Singapore race should have been made null and void as the race was badly affected by the crash. If that happens, Massa is the 2008 champion. As it stands right now, Massa is taking it to court to try and have the Singapore results thrown out.
Hamilton is McLaren's last world champion legend, not Fernando Alonso. Alonso never ever won any championship's after Hamilton beat him in the same machinery.
This was the beginning of the end for Alonso, never been in the right car since this tantrum year where he cracked against Hamilton. He should now have 4 championships at least and more wins than he has.
easy to forget how Hamilton managed to lose that WC when best place to win it - beaching it in the pit lane gravel trap in the pre-penultimate race in China on tyres down to the canvas because of a tactical error by the team and then dropping from 3rd to 7th in the final race due to a gearbox failure when 5th would have won him the title - could have won it by miles with better luck. And then when you consider what happened in Abu Dabi 2021 ....
@@alejandro10751 so you think the team purposely sabatoged Alonso's car so Hamilton could beat him..??. if you really believe that I can't even have a conversation with someone who believes that. Debating with you would be like debating with a flat-earther
It seems awkward to be invested in a class rookie while having a reigning world champion on your Team. I guess Dennis wanted to relive and improve on Senna/Prost days and secure championships by creating another power duo dynamic at Mclaren again. I could be wrong since I'm still a noob to F1.
Being completely unbiased, I believe that the first half of the year(2007), before McLaren realized the talent Hamilton had, Alonso was the favored driver..The second half seemed to be Hamilton's half for McLaren, and on the speed stakes between the two, they're pretty evenly matched, even today...Alonso, however, is much less error prone, very consistent, and in my opinion the better driver.
@@pipenorris At the last qualifying attempt, the mechanics fitted a new set of tires (white line) for Hamilton and a used one for Alonso (no white line) while they should have fitted, as previously agreed, a set of new tires for both. It was for this reason that Alonso lingered, he was asking why he was being fitted with used tires and not new ones.
@TheSt1092 because that never happened. Alonso's tyres were fresh. He chose the primes himself because he felt they wouldn't wear as quickly as the options in Q3. He said as much in the post-qualy interview.
Unfortunately he wasn't looking at the big picture. I think this particular weekend lost him the WC that year. I wish he would have played it a bit smarter than that.
@aieljose if the mp4-26 lapped the f150 it clearly is due to hamilton's superior competence vs alonsos, otherwise, we should see the mp4 26 consistently lapping the f150 or far ahead at least for the rest of the races this season, so far, they've been neck and neck.
I very much doubt Alonso sat there working out how many seconds to wait (with no timing screen in front of him) before leaving. Plus The Times reckons this was all Ron Dennis' doing as punishment for not letting Alonso past which also seems dubious since Hamilton did the same thing with Rosberg, ignoring team orders. I just hope Fernando gets his mojo back if he switches to a McLaren-Honda.
I never heard of this version of events ? Is this true ? I remember that back then the media made it look like Alonso was to blame. The strange thing is that despite of what he "DID" to McLaren, I never heard anyone from the team speaking badly of him since 2007.
LVader20 Apparently so. I only recently stumbled upon it. It does seem odd since Lewis did the same thing with Rosberg, thus apparently not learning the simple lesson that he is an employee and when your employer tells you to do something, you need to do it. As far as what he did to Mclaren, Fernando seems open about the fact that he did some things wrong, most of which was telling Ron Dennis he would expose Mclaren for espionage if he didn't get his way as opposed to sitting in the pits to create a situation that he could not have created on his own.
and all, to let hamilton win 2007 f1 championship, Mclaren was so stupid that year, he lost the 2 tittle he could win these year, if this didnt happended, alonso could win on 2007,2008 and maybe 2009 tittles with this team... its a shame
it was mclaren's fault that none of their drivers won the title. at one point it was clear that hamilton was going to win it, yet instead of protecting hamilton like ferrari did with kimi, they let alonso steal many points from him
Nando's greatest mistake was that he thought Lewis was gonna be easy. He thought just because he beat Schumi twice, so much so that it made Schumi retire, he could beat a rookie. But no. Going into the Hungarian weekend, Lewis had 3 poles against Nando's 1. Lewis finished off the podium only once against Nando's 3. Lewis had a 2 point lead- Nando already lost the championship lead 5 races prior. Nando won the previous race, with Lewis finishing only 9th (the first time he was off the podium that season) so it was obvious that he wanted to keep his momentum up and keep on decreasing Lewis's lead. Nando was actually doing great- until he somehow cracked under Lewis's mind games and decided to retaliate. Big mistake. Not counting his later crash at Fuji because of the torrential rain (out of his control) this was literally the "I Effed Up my season" point for Nando.
Good work Alonso! Let's be honest, even Hamilton admitted himself as a nasty driver (I prefer the word 'prick') at times every now any then. He got what he deserved for.
McLaren really stuffed up in 2007. They should have taken both the Constructors and Drivers championships, but because of the way they mismanaged their drivers, they ended up with neither. I think they should have backed Alonso, having paid a shed load of money to get him into the team, and the driver with the experience to take a drivers title at that time.
Except that would have gone strictly agaisnt what McLaren said/stood for. Besides WCC was not going to gp for them at any point due to the whole Spygate thing and as for WDC, all it would have required was Alonso not to crash in Fuji or Hamilton/McLaren not doing that stupid mistake with wornout tyres in China that let to Hamilton's DNF on pit entry. if one or the other driver had managed to finish those races, then either Alonso or Hamilton would have won the championship. So it was entirely in their own hands, while Kimi suffered from 2 DNFs that were both technical failures, but with McLaren the drivers themselves made 2 costly mistakes in the end that costed them the championship
@@Balnazzardi Its not like McLaren haven't had a lead driver and second driver before, just look back to Hakkinen and Coultard, or the year after to Hamilton and Kovalainen, so not 'strictly against what they stood for'. By not imposing team orders, they lost both WDC and WCC. There were so many 1 & 2 finishes shared between Alonso and Hamilton in 2007. If all of them had gone to Alonso that would have been 8 wins to Raikonnen's 6, so an easy WDC, and they still would have won the WCC. And, of course, if McLaren had backed Alonso there is less chance that Spygate would have come to the attention of the FIA. See what I mean, stuffed up, completely.
@@JakobusVdL stuff like Spygate would have always come to light sooner or later. Also in regard of Häkkinen DC times, they were on equal ground at beginning of each season but Häkkinen was simply a better driver, same with Ham vs Kovalainen where Heikki was just average driver. Also again both Alonso and Ham threw away their championship chances at the end with their own mistakes, that cant be denied and 2010 season with Red Bull/Vettel winning championship is perfect example why its not always such a bad idea to give both drivers chance for the championship. If for example on Brazil Red Bull had used team orders to let Webber win instead of Vettel, it would have meant that depsite Webber winning that race, had events folded the exact same way in Abu Dhabi as they did, then Vettel neither Webber would have won but Alonso. But because Ferrari/Alonso were too focused on Webber and Vettel still had a chance to win the WDC, well the rest is history
@@Balnazzardi I don't think that either DC or Kovaleinen were considered to be on even terms with their team mates. Look at the respective salaries for a start, and in DCs case the use of team orders quite early in some seasons. So that arguement doesn't fly. And again, in 2007 if McLaren had chosen to back Alonso at the start of the season, the WDC wouldn't have come down to mistakes at the end of the season. 2010, 2007 and 2012 are rare examples of a championship being a close outcome between team mates and a rival team driver. So not a strong arguement for not picking a lead driver, for me. Spygate stuff 'always comes out', we don't actually know that do we? Is it likely that there has only been one case of industrial espionage in F1 in 70 years? Doesn't sound likely to me. What we do know if that a pissed off Alonso threatened to report the situation to the FIA and that prompted McLaren to report it themselves. It must have been known within McLaren before Alono's threat prompted McLaren to confess. Had McLaren backed Alonso for the WDC that may never have happened.
Ron's pretty ruthless, but he gave his driver's equal opportunity, like Senna and Prost, all the Alonso fans take this as the team screwed him over... Alonso wanted a wingman and he ended up with a Rookie Ace 🤣
Yo did you even comprehend what the hell happened? Clearly mclaren crew was favouring hamilton. It was that mclaren wanted alonso to be hamiltons wingman.
almost nobody recalls that Alonso's move was nothing but a tit-for-tat-response - at Silverstone, Hamilton had pulled off exactly the same move on Alonso, he had been lucky the TV cameras didn't cover this.
No one knows what's happening here because Hamilton actually insulted Ron Dennis on the radio that is why we see him throwing the headsets it happens at that exact time. The hold up wasn't done by Alonso himself, I don't know, it's hard to tell whether he did it on purpose of his own or of the team's request. And yes if Alonso started top 2 and finished in the top 2 he would have the title, he finished 4th, 3rd place wasn't enough as it will make him tied with Raikkonen but will still lose it because of 4 wins against Raikkonen's 6.
Absolutely, Frentzen was a great pilot, but never had a competitive car to prove it. What I am saying is that Alonso shows in every race is better than his neighbor, and that with a car that is not competitive, does amazing things. Massa, with the same car, has not even finished in the points, and Fernando has won a race.
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I like Alonso's sarcastic smile after the penalty 😂
HAHA yeah. Amazing. Never won anything since then.
@@Kenny-sl6hb Neither did Lewis this year lol
@@Kenny-sl6hb look at this guy LMAO 🤣🤣🤣
@@Kenny-sl6hb Salty British fans lol :d
@@Kenny-sl6hb 🤣🤣🤣🤣, i love it , now he is going to retire without winning anything ever since 🤣🤣🤣
You can tell how furious Ron is, by the way he places the headphones on the railings.
And you saw what Dennis his favorite driver was.
Furious, because the two world champion of his team, got the pole. Unbelievable!
@@r.zudert6703 Furious because Alonso sabotaged the team and Hamiltons chance of a lap time no wonder the guy was hated
@@pepsiaxe2937why didn't he let Alonso though
@@pepsiaxe2937 Hi Lewis lmao
This was literally my introduction to the F1. I was always fascinated with F1 but I never knew where to watch it here in the US (hate that I missed Michael Schumacher's run). At some point I switched cable providers and suddenly I had The Speed Channel. The first time I turned to it was in the middle of this qualifying session, and the rest is history.
What a moment in history to get introduced to F1 in the most spectacular fashion!
Same. 2006 for me tho. I still recall seeing Schumi's last race at Ferarri. Kinda cool in hindsight. '07 was my first full season. It's amazing to see how many new fans F1 has made since Drive To Survive on Netflix. I had no idea that show had that kinda of impact until recently. NASCAR was my first love and I'm kind of hoping NASCAR can get that allure back of some sort, with the introduction of their new Netflix series.
That was when Hamilton tried to do a Vettel, but Alonso showed he isn't a Webber ;)
haha thats awesome!
Team Work makes the Dream Work
Alonso is still a muppet for what he did though. He not only cost his team points but he was relegated to 6th. That was stupid. If you want to show your superiority do it in the race.
@@liamthompson2604 Hamilton caused that by not yielding the extra qualy lap as agreed (they were taking turns that season, it was a Alonso's turn). Then McLaren had their part when they complained to FIA about their own driver. Like WTF
@@bgotura It was payback for Monaco and for things Fernando was saying in the press at the time. Lewis finally for once grew a pair and he perfectly got back at Fernando.
What a season. Would love to see both Alonso and Hamilton in competitive cars again juking it out for the world the championship. Maybe with Raikkonen in the mix too.
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Sadly this didn't age well... 😞
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What's that saying about two dogs fighting over a bone? The third one, Raikkonen, takes it from them while they fight!
I actually liked the cheeky way Alonso did this😂
I didnt like Alonso very much and i am spanish but in 2006 the sanction for blocking Massa in practice showed me that maybe he was right when he talked about that F1 isnt a sport and When i saw this i just could said you are the fucking boss man! to be able to mentally calculate the pace to pass the line with 0 seconds and put Hamilton out.
GrumpierLion221 who didn't ? 😂😂
GrumpierLion221 But it cost him a lot. His blocking really damaged his career if you are looking back.
Stupid decision, it cost him a lot
i liked he never won a wdc again
Gotta love commentors justifying Hamilton ignoring team orders to fulfil his own agenda and then going bananas for Alonso doing the same thing... Talk about hypocrisy
MrLulzs Not really, Alonso was pushing for a 1st position against what he considered a rookie who only deserved a 2nd support position to the team leader. Actively blocking him in the pits is just out of order, on track Hamilton was on a fast lap and Alonso was nowhere near him, so the order to pass was mostly irrelevant. In the end it was more Alonso media drama rather than anything else.
yu ignore team orders on the track not on pit stop .Alonso could not handle the rookie lol
They're Brits so of course they're gonna kiss Hamilton's ass every chance they get.
typical british. now with lewis
and of course you do not support your countryman women when you get the chance!!?? Where are you from?
Team agreement was that each driver would alternate who went out first in Q3 (due to fuel and advantage of less fuel at the time). Hungry was Alonsos turn to go out first. Lewis ignored that and placed his car at the pit exit ahead. Alonso returned the favour by holding him on the pit stop ensuring he ran out of time. Whole incident started by Lewis not being a team player resulting in Alonso getting penalised. The (British) media sided with Lewis and made him out to be the victim. Showed his true jack colours even back then. But to be a world champ, you have to be utterly ruthless.
Not only that, but the penalty cost Alonso pole. A strange penalty considering it was an internal team issue. I can't think of the stewards doling out similar penalties since. Similarly, I can't think of another time when a car was lifted out of the gravel by crane and allowed to rejoin the race, as happened to Hamilton that year.
In the end, Hamilton won the race and Alonso got 4th place due to grid penalty. If not for that, Alonso would have been the clear WDC. Not to take away from Hamilton's achievement as a rookie that year, but the oft touted "Lewis beat Alonso in the same car" comments overlook the above. Two immensely talented drivers either way.
come on mate, it's hungary
I dont't know why Ron is so annoyed. In the stop Alonso received hard tyres to try pole position, which is a joke, while Ham got the soft (faster than the others). This is only an example of what suffered Alo that year. However i have to say that Ham was so good as Alo that season.
Exactly, and that's the kind of things british media loves to hide when it comes to bashing Alonso for what he did that weekend. Lame biased bastards!
Cuz he is racist, he preferred the English guy over the Spaniard
McLaren was always as that
And the F1 in general....
Remember Suzuka 1988 & 1989? How the French driver got more privilege over the Brazilian one?
@@mewtwo.150 This man is comparing events that happend in the 80s to 07 lol
There is no hard and soft tyres in 07 you lier.
2007 or the most controversial year for McLaren
Yeah their constructor championship got fucked by a nosey bitch who was spying on ferrari the whole season
Senna & Proset?
hamilton got pushed by the team massively that year. he and the team deserved it. they brought in alonso to be the second driver
What?????will a 2 time world champion accept to be a second driver to a debut drivr??what a logic
+Shravan Pammi exactly. i think they didnt make it clear at the beggining and when it started to come out alonso did things like this
+Shravan Pammi He said that Mc Laren deserved what they got for supporting Hamilton instead of Alonso. Got it?
not exactly. alonso was coming from two consecutive world tiles and ham was a rookie but he was under ron dennis for a decade so the team pushed him to the moon as the new hot project and put alonso in the margin a bit. they brought him in to play second role to hamilton thats what i find wrong. they should havr built the team around the two time defendin champion
Nah, they didn't sign Alonso to be the second driver, it would be pure idiocy to pay 50 million to a second driver. Obviously everyone thought Hamilton was going to be much slower than Alonso in his rookie year. When Hamilton turned out to be just as quick, it upset Alonso and the rest is history. Today we know Hamilton is perhaps the quickest driver over one lap on the grid, so it's no surprise that he could match Alonso with the same equipment. In the end both finished on same points.
well... Alonso was wondering why the team gave him hard and used tyres for the last run. (you can see it at 0:38 ) . Thats part of the reason why he hesitated that long. He still managed to beat Hamiltons time so I think this was one of the greatest quali laps in recent time.
Lewis car had more fuel and was heavier cuz of it
*That's not true.* Those tyres were fresh. They were the "prime" or harder compound tyre from Bridgestone which is why they did not have the white stripe of the "option" (softer compound) tyre. Alonso chose the primes because he felt they would hold up better in the hot European summer that year.
You’re wrong. Check the non existent strips. All new tires had them. Alonso knew and that was his revenge.
@@jaerdalas Bridgestone offered only two tyre choices for 2007-08: option (softer compound) and prime (harder compound). In Australia 2007 the option had a white dot on the sidewall to distinguish it from the prime, but this was difficult to make out during the race. So from Malaysia onwards the option tyre had a white stripe and the prime didn't.
@@ryanjonathanmartin3933 I will have to trust on you, since it's the first time I know about this.
Those points lost here by Alonso have dearly cost McLaren at the last race.
I'm suprised with all the headaches that Ron had to deal with Prost and Senna that he would again hire 2 fast and super aggressive drivers at the same time. Also I think this happened because unlike other teams McLaren will let their drivers actually race each other with no team orders in the way
Actually they clearly favoured Hamilton this year. You just need to see the team reactions when one or the other would win a race. 2007 compromised by other interests that wanted Hamilton to win. Brit team, Brit lobby, Brit future star. Clear as water
@@adrianbermudez3314 are u srsly responding 11 years later? where can i see the reactions u are talking about?
@@kassenxs my guy you are responding too haha
@@name5798 yeah, to a 2 weeks old comment, crazy!
@@kassenxs spiderman pointing at spiderman
Well played Fernando, I think it was obvious who Mclaren were focusing their attention on that season
Yes lewis and räkkionen were ron dennis golden boys while alonso and montoya were their toys
they were focusing on the snitch what alonso played
@@bild6034 Yes, he was a racist dude, he could have won more championships, but f*cked it up with his nasty agenda
That's why I'm happy McLaren is a joke now
@@mewtwo.150 how was he racist?
You mean alonso?@jamie wigg
I really dislike Alonso but he did good in this one, Hamilton screwed him up earlier, pay back!!!
It's been 7 years so I don't know if you're still breathing. I wanted to ask why you dislike Alonso?
@@Worms_Pro Fernando is a tough character, you either love him or hate him.
You must be a massive douchebag to dislike Nando tho
Hammy is a moron tho.
@@sairamr6886 why is hammy a moron?
@@sairamr6886 I like Fernando but the grudge he has against Lewis to this day is honestly embarrassing
And this, kids, is how you throw away a championship with the best car under you.
ironically, in hindsight, if alonso didn't do this he would've won the world championship.
+Mark FormulaRacer karma is bitch ;) Thank God Falonso hasnt won single championship after 2006 and likely will never win another.
+Mark FormulaRacer Exactly this is the reason why he didn't win the championship
F1 V10 right...so why do you think Alonso got kicked out/left the team after 2007 to, back to Renault? Its clear that he fucked up his relationship with the team at that time. Also I've not forgotten about Singapore 2008 (everyone who is not complete idiot, knows fully well that there was NO-WAY that Alonso would have been completely in the dark about his team's plans) and Germany 2010 (the way he tried to weasel himself out of the questions that the reporters/journalists rightfully threw at him about the team-order, he had no backbone whatsoever in that situation to just admit what had happened, even when there was nothing to hide, when everyone had seen and heard what had happened, yet this cunt tried to avoid the questions all together and celebrate his cheap victory like nothing had happened....
So ye, I dont feel any pity for Alonso that he is likely to spend the rest of his career with cars that he has no chance whatsoever to fight for the championships or even for occasional race wins.
he left because hamilton a rookie was given favour to a 2 time world champion..
esucil - hamilton wasn't given favour. he was given equal treatment and alonso didnt like that
Anyone here again after Alonso caused Lewis dizziness in Hungary 2021? 😂
me :)
Present.
😊
Alonso has been dizzy ever since Hamilton beat him in the same car, made him run away from McLaren after only 1 season and then became the McLaren world champion that Alonso failed to be the very next year.
Alonso has never ever won a single championship after Hamilton beat him in the same machinery.
@@MT-pv2rf Alonso beat lewis for 4 consecutive seasons in lesser machinery between 2010 and 2013
I totally congratulate Alonso for this brilliant response to the war he had to face inside the team by the British clique. Alonso for ever and ever!! Taugh, strong and ruthless!!
Pls reply
@@ricardomarin487 2 in a slower car with rule changes being made to make your car and inly your car specifically worse and basically racing flawlessly for 2 years is more impressive than 1 good run and 6 freebies with the fastest and most reliable car and everybody else racing in go karts by comparison.
@@Parker-- lmao talking shit
@@Parker-- 7 by a black man is more impressive. Fernando got whipped by a black man and that will forever haunt him. In the same car and different ones, go cry
@@denzel9086 Why is seven by a black man more impressive just cuz he's black? You don't actually know your shit, because if you knew your shit, you wouldn't be talking shit, because you'd know about Hungary. Not to mention the bullshit luck that season with mechanical failures. With three less races to work with Alonso scored the same number of points. Just answer this: Are you on Ferrari's pit wall? Because you're a fucking clown. 🤣 Now sit down, boy.🤡
lol...This was the greatest moment in sports. Love Alonso's smirk at the end as he walks in to the team trailer.
Eh? Alonso was penalized and Hamilton won the race
@@MT-pv2rf Shhh. Let him live inside his fantasy.
@@MT-pv2rf There is literally no reason to penalize Alonso as this did not happen on the track but inside the team itself. It was a prime example of how FIA in the last decade forcefully saw to it that British drivers would always get the benefit of the doubt and all others get penalties according to the rulebook. This continued well into the 2010s.
@@elisterrShhh. Let him live inside his fantasy.
These two are the greatest pairing for viewers..Both love attention and would do anything to stir the pot to tip the scales in their favor. It's good how F1 has this, kinda like a Young and the Restless F1 version
Seems to me no can get along with Hamilton.
yeah I would agree
It's the contrary dude, it's with Alonso.
harshlens no its Hamilton. The only he's gotten along with is Button and now Bottas.
Heh just wait a few months, Bottas will get tired of the Ham soon enough.
Ze Rubenator yeah tired of losing
If someone had grabbed me like that by the arm, I wouldn't have though twice about giving them a backhand.
Yeah right bitch but youll never work for a F1 team and wont be grabbed by the arm by the boss of that team so you wont have that problem.
Ohh cry me a river
Hermann Desu how do you know I haven't already, idiot?
cause you work at Nokia, which as far as i know, isn't an F1 team.
LethalWalou ?
The problem is even if Hammy is faster, Alonso had already 2 WDC under his belt. So acc. to normal logic, McLaren should have obviously given him privilege and then 2007,2008 WDC for Alonso and McLaren and maybe even more with Alonso still at McLaren. But they made the unforgivable mistake of favoring a rookie, even if he's as fast as hell, over a double champion! A rookie stays a rookie in his 1st year. I still think McLaren are one of the worst team when it comes to strategy. Although my favorite team, their strategies suck big deal. Look at the Malaysian qualifying session this year!
Linternauter Hamilton only has the faster car...If those two were teammates again with Mercedes instead of Rosberg...Shoot...You know Alonso would be wiping the floor with Hammy this year...
Tony Wittrien It's true, Alonso is the best driver on the grid. He came close to winning the championship 2 out of 4 times, and runner up 3 out of 4 times in an inferior car. Of course all great champions win with the best car, but very few can win with a bad car.
Man that will be stupid to favor a WDC than someone who's faster... Look right now in the 2014 season. Vettel is 4 time world champion!!! are redbull going to favor him even if he slower than Ricciardo?? I doubt so: they will favor the fastest in term of doing good result for the team...
I agree and in 2007 they started getting on Hamiltons side and at the last races of the season he choked and they lost the championship to Räikkönen and Ferrari.
numoverper but the thing is unlike vettel this year, Alonso actually delivered, he had more pole position than hamilton, he had the same wins as him, he clearly wouldve won the championship if it weren't for this incident, because he was on pole position.
He was radioed into Alonso. He was able to tell him what time was remaining in the session while he was blocking Hamilton so he would get another flying lap and Hamilton wouldn't be able to make it to the line to start another flying lap himself. They were also communicating in spanish so the Mclaren team didn't know what they were doing till it happened.
I think it would be fun to still have Alonso and Hamilton on the same team battling it out. I like both drivers because of their talents and hard charging style and I wouldn't care who ends up on top but I just know they would put on a great show!
Alonso would have won every turbo-hybrid era championship
If 2007 was same treatment then Alonso could have win the title 2 race before Brazil...
@@md.shaonprinceshuvo5412lol equal fuel loads since Canada is somehow favouring Lewis 😂😂😂 love the excuses
No one in this (McLaren, Alonso, Hamilton, Dennis) covered themselves in glory
One thing I never understood about this video is: what the FUK does his physiotherapist have to do with him blocking the pits????????????????
the way this was shown on tv made it seem that ron was angry at alonso for doing that, but what really happened was after alonso had blocked hamilton in the pits hamilton shouted on the radio to ron saying "Don't ever f*cking do that to me again" with ron responding "thats what happens when you don't do what your f*cking told". after that ron threw his headphones down and went to alonso's physio to tell him to go calm alonso down while he goes and try to calm hamilton down.
***** www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/07/29/hungary-2007-the-whole-story/ you should find the whole story here.
From my understanding, a drivers physio often has a role in the team doing non technical tasks - i remember seeing webbers physio doing his timing board etc - From memory alonso's physio was watching the clock and let alonso know by radio how long he should wait so that hamilton wouldnt have enough time to do his stop and be able to do another lap - earlier in the session hamilton messed with alonso's lap - tensions were already high between hamilton and alonso at this stage and alonso was angry with mclaren for not ensuring he was number 1 driver. - was my favourite season
BLITZKRIEG Ron Dennis said him, go and calm him. Also said to Hamilton thats whats happens when you dont obey.
At the last qualifying attempt, the mechanics fitted a new set of tires (white line) for Hamilton and a used one for Alonso (no white line) while they should have fitted, as previously agreed, a set of new tires for both. It was for this reason that Alonso lingered, he was asking why he was being fitted with used tires and not new ones.
the british media won't tell you this, hamilton is always the victim of some non-british person
The same lie, the same narrative. Alonso chose the primes for Q3 because in Q1 and Q2 he reported that his option (white striped ones) tyres were wearing a bit more quickly. He felt that the primes would hold up better throughout the Q3 session.
And this ladies is why alonso doesnt have more titles
Hamilton started it
Alonso finishes with style
Also End of alonso carrier
@@khopu4649 He still races if you haven't noticed. But you are probably implying he didn't have any success. I would say you don't follow motorsports. He won Le Mans which you probably don't know :) but it is also a very respectable championship
@@khopu4649 yes, but not really
Now we have Hamilton, the guy with the same number of titles as Schumacher
But everyone knows he never earned them
Must be sad to have that reputation 😂
@@khopu4649 what u watch in 2012?
@@mewtwo.150 you big mad he has all the records
This is neither Alonso or Hamiltons fault. Its just the atmosphere of McLaren and its management is fucked up. They could have won atleast 2 more titles before the god awful Honda came in. Why couldnt they just get a good number 2 driver to compliment rather than take away from number one. Kovalinen was great for Hamilton! Alonso Hamilton and Button Hamilton was a bad combination.
+Niderfyn dude i just love u at last someone understanding F1....
Alonsos fault live with it
Ron Dennis always had some kind of paranoia during the last years with Mercedes, he was bashing them all the time. In the end, it wasn't the engine, it was the chassis, the engineers did a shitty job - but Dennis never would blame his factory.
McLaren that year was like "oh yeah we have signed the world champion so we can win easily next year, but wait, we've already signed a driver that is enrolled to our drivers programme that has to get a spot next year since he won GP2 this season. Oh shit now all we can do is up to how well we spy Ferrari so we can be miles ahead of them so we don't need to worry too much". That's how you lose a world championship.
teams fault, dont just ignore a furious ron dennis - a team boss losing his shit is more than a driver's cheeky pit exit
It's so dirty it's genius hahaha
really? it costed the team millions
And rightfully so.
So genius that Alonso got a penalty and had a shit race while Hamilton came home with the victory.
@@MT-pv2rf so genius that if not for the penalty he would have won 2007.... He got karmad both of the mclarens got karmad
@@MT-pv2rf bruh what are you screaming for I'm on your side... Bruh internet people these days are always in rage mode
ALONSO IS A LEGEND
0_0 Max verstappen say that to checo
@@leonlara5797 xD
At this point, Alonso fans are consoling themselves. It's just sad the way their driver has fallen
Sure
@@abdullahamir626 fallen? He is currently outperforming your boy and he is in his 40s. Your boy has 7 titles yet Alonso with 2 gathers more respect. Says alot
Alonso lost his championship here, it's hilarious.
but he is the best ....if he dont block he won it in 2007 and after....you dont know what happened....
He's a fucking cheat thats what he is.
no cheat, the cheat that hamilton have everytime on track. this is jsut dirty trick on him but he deserved it. :D
1DAVIDZON1, we find YOU to be a trick.
😄
Tibor vV...And who won, ...Ferrari and Kimi,...ask Ron if it was the right decision!
Somebody here commented 'Vettel is the best out there easily at the moment.
'
Put Alonso in the Red Bull, and you'll see pure domination.
With Max indeed + Alonso
Imagine being the reigning 2 time world champion and having to do this to beat your rookie teammate…kinda shows you who has the real talent
1:01 when the commentator clicked on what was happening 😅
2007 and 2008 were the most exciting years to be an F1 fan in my lifetime (watching since 1997).
i enjoyed schumacher-hakkinen rivalry rather 98,99,00
prime hakkinen vs prime schumacher...we haven't seen anything of that magnitude ever since
@mcfp95 If you look at the FIA's website archives for the 2007 F1 Season, you'll see that it lists Hamilton 2nd and Alonso 3rd in the WDC classification. With the countback procedure used to classify drivers with the same number of points, it's quite improbable to end up with a true tie in the standings (and even if countback fails, the FIA can use whatever other criteria it deems fit to separate the drivers).
the only reason lewis was 2nd and alonso third despite being tied on points is because if kimi did not exist at the top, than hamilton would have had won by few more points because he finished more on the higher positions mainly 2nd position and alonso finished 3rd at most times while both winning same number of races
@@RehanX44Alonso would have been WDC on merit if not for the grid penalty he was given for holding Hamilton in the pits. It was strange for the stewards to issue a penalty considering Hamilton held Alonso earlier in the session, and it was an internal team issue. The penalty came long after the session once Hamilton and his father raised the issue in the press. It was clear the team favored him for pole as they fitted used hard tires on Alonso for his pole attempt.
The grid penalty gifted Hamilton pole on a notoriously difficult track to pass. This let Hamilton win comfortably from pole while Alonso could only manage fourth. If the qualifying results were held on merit, the race results would be 1-2 Alonso-Hamilton and Alonso would have comfortably been WDC, Kimi 2nd, and Hamilton 3rd. Then again if McLaren didn't botch Hamilton's pit stop in China, he would have been comfortably WDC. 2007 was a mess for McLaren and the results could have gone either way. Both Alonso and Hamilton are two of the greatest drivers the sport has ever seen. Put them in the same car and race the 2007 season again and it could play out a million different ways.
hamilton would be 10x WDC if and what not should have would have @@robertm5969
I'm Hamilton's fan but that day Fernando dos just well!!! An unforgetable lesson!!! Nowadays he passes that knowledge to Max!!!
Max does not need Alonso.
@@19megamustaine85 yeah, he only needs a no2 team mate
Alonso hizo lo que el equipo acordó que haría.
Gracias a la maFIA, el Gaymilton no fue descalificado aquel año en el que vimos que una grúa lo colocó dentro de la pista cuando se había salido.
Un paquete tratado con deferencia por el color de su piel y su nacionalidad.
Because of their color and nationality what a stupid justification the reality he never won any title after lewis stepped in F1 is enough alonslow while lewis is on the podium week to week😉
@@mesut7699 McLaren literally gave him the wrong tyres, the FIA has always supported Lewis cause hes british now we see that Alonso owns Carmilton with a good car yall carmilton need to get yall heads outta yo ass
Decidiste hablar basado
hahaha, he's got some balls! Now I like him even more :)
@@ricardomarin487 Man, I made this comment 13! years ago...time flies :(
@@fajnypatent So nice of you to reply after so many years! 😁
@@fajnypatent how do you feel reading something that you wrote 15 years ago, are you smarter ?
Balls but very small penis and brain. He cost himself the championship that year. That is fu#@$#$ poetic.
Still an Alonso fan right?
@Frebeemiks Monza 2008. I know Vettel is new but he scored points on his first F1 outing, won the Championship in 2010 and absolutely destroyed here in 2011. Time will tell if he will turn into one of the "all time greats" of F1 but he is without a doubt one of the best on the grid today and an absolutely deserving Double World Champion.
W old comment
He is an all-time great for sure, love Vettel.
Awesome season. That Alonsos smile tho..
Gotta love McLaren sabotaging their own team member
BRILLIANT ALONSO ! HA
Fuck alonso
Ha r u french?
LHAMILTONPS3 hold on . This guy above seems dodgy to me . Who is this andy mc muffin guy ?
Andy McWhinnie listen MC MUFFIN . Go annoy someome else !!!
LHAMILTONPS3 do you agree that this ***** is French?
Why was he punished ? just curios what rule exactly he broke
He stopped Hamilton from pitting in Hungary of '07. That's against FIA rules.
Torrent Which rule?
And which rule said that you can wait 20 seconds in your own pits?
Ultimately Hamilton proved himself to be the better driver. Alonso isn't even in the same postcode statistically. Alonso was just really churlish for the duration of their time at McLaren because he was being outdriven by a rookie.
I agree with everything you said mate. He was doing pretty well this year even though Mclaren srewed him with underfuelling and bad pitstops but he stayed calm about it. Last week i understood his anger but no excuse about the Twitter saga.
he's probably the best racing driver on the grid today, youre making him out to be some kind of demon, its really not the case, i've never heard a driver say a bad word about him (other than maybe hamilton when they were team mates) but even hamilton now has nothing but positive things to say about him
not 10days ago hamilton flamed him on twitter
Nope anymore
@kuziverthd7856 because Alonso started it first. Hamilton wasn't the aggressor.
That was fucking cold. lmao
I like Alonso face gesture, mouth wants to laugh, but eyebrows is like hes going to cry)))
Put the fastest lap with used hard tyres please 😂
I go thru the garage!! Puts on a smile , and walks! wooo! Alonso is the boss!
lewis can fuck rosberg up...but he cant break alonso!!!!lol
He beat Alonso that year. Lewis was a rookie an Alonso was the 2 time defending champ that year.
+Mr. Wright haha...no i mean the mind games...alonso knows he will be punished but still.... he even fucked ron...haha who cares about tittles
Amir Ihsan Rosli Did you just say who cares about titles? Isn't a title their main objective? That's like saying baseball isn't about the World Series
my point is that...the best driver does not mean that he won the most world titles...know wat i mean?
they have the same amount of points tho...
Two things strike me as strange here:
1) Ron Dennis having a go at Hamilton's physiotherapist. What's his physiotherapist got to do with it?
2) I would have thought Hamilton blocking Alonso would be a matter of a McLaren internal investigation, not the FIA?
+elucidate
1) Its Alonsos physiotherapist. I think he was in contact to Alonso, so thats why Ron Dennis took his headphones and his radio.
2) Just because it happened "just" between two teammates, its not internal. This was bad sportsmanship, which had to be punished by the FIA (And Alonso blocked Hamilton, not vice versa)
some people do not know that Budapest 2007 was the revenge for Silverstone 2007. in Silverstone, Alonso should have been allowed to burn fuel for 12 laps, Hamilton only for 11. But Lewis stayed out for 12 laps and thus forced Fernando to pit after only 11 laps. At Budapest, Fernando took revenge. This give quite a good insight regarding how much team mates really "like" each other. What Lewis did at Silverstone, was unsportsmanlike, what Fernando did at Budapest, was unsportsmanlike, too.
Great memory I think, despite the controversy.. and that what makes 2007 became one of the most exciting season of F1... behind 2008 of course, which is more exciting!
The 2008 is even more controversial. It has been revealed that The Troll Bernie Eccelstone was I'd formed that Piquet crashed on purpose before the season ended. B.E. didn't want the bad publicity for the sport, so he sat on it. What should have happened is that the results of the Singapore race should have been made null and void as the race was badly affected by the crash. If that happens, Massa is the 2008 champion. As it stands right now, Massa is taking it to court to try and have the Singapore results thrown out.
fernando alonso, pilota muito e tem personalidade!!!
I wanna know why Alonso's physio got his are kicked by Ron Dennis.
nice sounding cars ahhh, refresing to hear it
Hamilton is McLaren's last world champion legend, not Fernando Alonso.
Alonso never ever won any championship's after Hamilton beat him in the same machinery.
Lol
This was the beginning of the end for Alonso, never been in the right car since this tantrum year where he cracked against Hamilton. He should now have 4 championships at least and more wins than he has.
Kimi after all this comedy: I don't care..
Ron Dennis clearly showed which driver he favored
easy to forget how Hamilton managed to lose that WC when best place to win it - beaching it in the pit lane gravel trap in the pre-penultimate race in China on tyres down to the canvas because of a tactical error by the team and then dropping from 3rd to 7th in the final race due to a gearbox failure when 5th would have won him the title - could have won it by miles with better luck. And then when you consider what happened in Abu Dabi 2021 ....
What ifs are silly.
Unbelievable, rookie beating a 2 time champion!
With the help of the team yeah
@@alejandro10751 NEWSFLASH everybody who wins has the help of their team.
Then you don't know what really happened. But everyone outside UK knows Alonso is better than Hamilton and his overrated stats
@@maliklowry1236 So while the team goes against his teammate too?
@@alejandro10751 so you think the team purposely sabatoged Alonso's car so Hamilton could beat him..??. if you really believe that I can't even have a conversation with someone who believes that. Debating with you would be like debating with a flat-earther
It seems awkward to be invested in a class rookie while having a reigning world champion on your Team. I guess Dennis wanted to relive and improve on Senna/Prost days and secure championships by creating another power duo dynamic at Mclaren again. I could be wrong since I'm still a noob to F1.
I don't always like his tactics... but he's bloody quick.
Being completely unbiased, I believe that the first half of the year(2007), before McLaren realized the talent Hamilton had, Alonso was the favored driver..The second half seemed to be Hamilton's half for McLaren, and on the speed stakes between the two, they're pretty evenly matched, even today...Alonso, however, is much less error prone, very consistent, and in my opinion the better driver.
I respect Alonso for doing this
Why?
@@pipenorris At the last qualifying attempt, the mechanics fitted a new set of tires (white line) for Hamilton and a used one for Alonso (no white line) while they should have fitted, as previously agreed, a set of new tires for both. It was for this reason that Alonso lingered, he was asking why he was being fitted with used tires and not new ones.
@@emanuelefalcetta2127 Then why didn't he tell the stewards that.
@TheSt1092 because that never happened. Alonso's tyres were fresh. He chose the primes himself because he felt they wouldn't wear as quickly as the options in Q3. He said as much in the post-qualy interview.
this aged well
Alonso and Hamilton, what a strong line-up for McLaren.
James Allen was an awful commentator, didn't half suck up to Hamilton that year
Impressed with how Fernando did this. Annoyed that he did it. However, he's changed in terms of attitude.
Unfortunately he wasn't looking at the big picture. I think this particular weekend lost him the WC that year. I wish he would have played it a bit smarter than that.
valle3452 In hindsight, yes. It did cost him the championship. However, the championships aren't won on hindsight. Just reflected.
He did it because his team was giving him the wrong tyres on purpose
Grande Fernando ^^
Does the driver know how much time is left of the season? It appears in the wheel screen?
Looking back, I believe it was blown out of proportion, since they were in the pitlane and not on track.
and then mclaren lost the championship to ferrari by 1 point LOL
Alonso and Hamilton lost the championship by 1 point to Raikkonen. McLaren got disqualifyied for industrial spying.
Very obvious Ron Dennis favoured Hamilton ...... But Fernando will always be the better driver!!
Buddy alonso intentionally made made it so Hamilton could not do a quali lap it was illegal
+Wavy Handles he showed them they cannot treat him like no2 driver
Yeah, you are also not allowed to hold your teammate up when he is on a qualy lap but did Lewis listen? NOPE!
After Hamilton was blocking Alonso before. Alonso was showing his credentials, and Ron Dennis managed it really wrong
he treated himself like a childish driver Mclaren gave both drivers equal everything and Alonso wanted to be n01 driver
@aieljose
if the mp4-26 lapped the f150 it clearly is due to hamilton's superior competence vs alonsos, otherwise, we should see the mp4 26 consistently lapping the f150 or far ahead at least for the rest of the races this season, so far, they've been neck and neck.
Well Hamilton should’ve slowed down and let Alonso pass him not continue driving and ignoring the McLaren teams instruction to let Alonso go by
I very much doubt Alonso sat there working out how many seconds to wait (with no timing screen in front of him) before leaving.
Plus The Times reckons this was all Ron Dennis' doing as punishment for not letting Alonso past which also seems dubious since Hamilton did the same thing with Rosberg, ignoring team orders.
I just hope Fernando gets his mojo back if he switches to a McLaren-Honda.
I never heard of this version of events ? Is this true ? I remember that back then the media made it look like Alonso was to blame. The strange thing is that despite of what he "DID" to McLaren, I never heard anyone from the team speaking badly of him since 2007.
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Apparently so. I only recently stumbled upon it.
It does seem odd since Lewis did the same thing with Rosberg, thus apparently not learning the simple lesson that he is an employee and when your employer tells you to do something, you need to do it.
As far as what he did to Mclaren, Fernando seems open about the fact that he did some things wrong, most of which was telling Ron Dennis he would expose Mclaren for espionage if he didn't get his way as opposed to sitting in the pits to create a situation that he could not have created on his own.
and all, to let hamilton win 2007 f1 championship, Mclaren was so stupid that year, he lost the 2 tittle he could win these year, if this didnt happended, alonso could win on 2007,2008 and maybe 2009 tittles with this team... its a shame
+MrStig691 if i remember correctly, hamilton and alonso had the same number of pts while raikonen won the cup, so no hamilton didnt beat anyone
Kimi had luck on that year, if there was no fights inside mclaren he probably wouldnt be the last ferrari champion in my opinion.
it was mclaren's fault that none of their drivers won the title. at one point it was clear that hamilton was going to win it, yet instead of protecting hamilton like ferrari did with kimi, they let alonso steal many points from him
fusk4rN Hamilton had more race wins so by the rules of Formula 1yes Hamilton beat Alonso. Know your stuff.
Nando's greatest mistake was that he thought Lewis was gonna be easy. He thought just because he beat Schumi twice, so much so that it made Schumi retire, he could beat a rookie. But no.
Going into the Hungarian weekend, Lewis had 3 poles against Nando's 1. Lewis finished off the podium only once against Nando's 3. Lewis had a 2 point lead- Nando already lost the championship lead 5 races prior.
Nando won the previous race, with Lewis finishing only 9th (the first time he was off the podium that season) so it was obvious that he wanted to keep his momentum up and keep on decreasing Lewis's lead.
Nando was actually doing great- until he somehow cracked under Lewis's mind games and decided to retaliate.
Big mistake. Not counting his later crash at Fuji because of the torrential rain (out of his control) this was literally the "I Effed Up my season" point for Nando.
Yeah, glad kimi won .
Why does Ron Dennis take it out on the pit wall guy ? did he advise Alonso to do the blocking ?
Alonso the best driver since 2005 by far.... No doubts!
Good work Alonso!
Let's be honest, even Hamilton admitted himself as a nasty driver (I prefer the word 'prick') at times every now any then. He got what he deserved for.
This was great,F1 is to nice these days.
McLaren really stuffed up in 2007. They should have taken both the Constructors and Drivers championships, but because of the way they mismanaged their drivers, they ended up with neither.
I think they should have backed Alonso, having paid a shed load of money to get him into the team, and the driver with the experience to take a drivers title at that time.
Except that would have gone strictly agaisnt what McLaren said/stood for. Besides WCC was not going to gp for them at any point due to the whole Spygate thing and as for WDC, all it would have required was Alonso not to crash in Fuji or Hamilton/McLaren not doing that stupid mistake with wornout tyres in China that let to Hamilton's DNF on pit entry.
if one or the other driver had managed to finish those races, then either Alonso or Hamilton would have won the championship. So it was entirely in their own hands, while Kimi suffered from 2 DNFs that were both technical failures, but with McLaren the drivers themselves made 2 costly mistakes in the end that costed them the championship
@@Balnazzardi Its not like McLaren haven't had a lead driver and second driver before, just look back to Hakkinen and Coultard, or the year after to Hamilton and Kovalainen, so not 'strictly against what they stood for'.
By not imposing team orders, they lost both WDC and WCC. There were so many 1 & 2 finishes shared between Alonso and Hamilton in 2007. If all of them had gone to Alonso that would have been 8 wins to Raikonnen's 6, so an easy WDC, and they still would have won the WCC.
And, of course, if McLaren had backed Alonso there is less chance that Spygate would have come to the attention of the FIA.
See what I mean, stuffed up, completely.
@@JakobusVdL stuff like Spygate would have always come to light sooner or later. Also in regard of Häkkinen DC times, they were on equal ground at beginning of each season but Häkkinen was simply a better driver, same with Ham vs Kovalainen where Heikki was just average driver.
Also again both Alonso and Ham threw away their championship chances at the end with their own mistakes, that cant be denied and 2010 season with Red Bull/Vettel winning championship is perfect example why its not always such a bad idea to give both drivers chance for the championship. If for example on Brazil Red Bull had used team orders to let Webber win instead of Vettel, it would have meant that depsite Webber winning that race, had events folded the exact same way in Abu Dhabi as they did, then Vettel neither Webber would have won but Alonso. But because Ferrari/Alonso were too focused on Webber and Vettel still had a chance to win the WDC, well the rest is history
@@Balnazzardi I don't think that either DC or Kovaleinen were considered to be on even terms with their team mates. Look at the respective salaries for a start, and in DCs case the use of team orders quite early in some seasons. So that arguement doesn't fly.
And again, in 2007 if McLaren had chosen to back Alonso at the start of the season, the WDC wouldn't have come down to mistakes at the end of the season. 2010, 2007 and 2012 are rare examples of a championship being a close outcome between team mates and a rival team driver. So not a strong arguement for not picking a lead driver, for me.
Spygate stuff 'always comes out', we don't actually know that do we? Is it likely that there has only been one case of industrial espionage in F1 in 70 years? Doesn't sound likely to me.
What we do know if that a pissed off Alonso threatened to report the situation to the FIA and that prompted McLaren to report it themselves. It must have been known within McLaren before Alono's threat prompted McLaren to confess. Had McLaren backed Alonso for the WDC that may never have happened.
Ron's pretty ruthless, but he gave his driver's equal opportunity, like Senna and Prost, all the Alonso fans take this as the team screwed him over... Alonso wanted a wingman and he ended up with a Rookie Ace 🤣
Yo did you even comprehend what the hell happened? Clearly mclaren crew was favouring hamilton. It was that mclaren wanted alonso to be hamiltons wingman.
@@kkavaradaguru7632 not really getting what you are saying, but ok...
almost nobody recalls that Alonso's move was nothing but a tit-for-tat-response - at Silverstone, Hamilton had pulled off exactly the same move on Alonso, he had been lucky the TV cameras didn't cover this.
The 2007 season was the last best f1 season!
2008 mate
2012?
And he did it again in Monaco 😂😂😭
Love Alonso
Greatest moment in F1
No one knows what's happening here because Hamilton actually insulted Ron Dennis on the radio that is why we see him throwing the headsets it happens at that exact time. The hold up wasn't done by Alonso himself, I don't know, it's hard to tell whether he did it on purpose of his own or of the team's request. And yes if Alonso started top 2 and finished in the top 2 he would have the title, he finished 4th, 3rd place wasn't enough as it will make him tied with Raikkonen but will still lose it because of 4 wins against Raikkonen's 6.
Absolutely, Frentzen was a great pilot, but never had a competitive car to prove it. What I am saying is that Alonso shows in every race is better than his neighbor, and that with a car that is not competitive, does amazing things. Massa, with the same car, has not even finished in the points, and Fernando has won a race.
After what happened with Senna and Prost, you'd have thought Ron Dennis would have learned by this point...