Now drives like an Audi? All-new VW Passat B9 driving REVIEW 2024 eHybrid PHEV vs TDI Diesel
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
- This is our in-depth review of the 2024 all-new VW Passat B9, eHybrid PHEV vs TDI Diesel and R-Line vs Elegance. We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and the driving experience.
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00:00 all-new Passat B9
00:32 Passat R-Line Oryx White
02:13 R-Line interior
03:22 Elegance in Chili Red
03:36 Length and Superb brother
04:14 DCC Pro and lights
05:00 Remote parking
05:49 Interior: Elegance
07:48 User interface
08:59 Build quality and storage
10:33 Rear seats
12:23 Trunk / boot
14:30 PHEV loading area
15:24 Engines
16:03 Plugin-Hybrid
16:34 Acceleration electric
17:12 eHybrid driving
19:33 DCC Pro suspension
23:32 Recuperation
26:04 Comfort and noise
27:45 Acceleration PHEV
29:09 Acceleration TDI
30:30 Consumption
31:13 Passat vs Tiguan
32:40 Estate vs SUV
33:14 Thomas' configuration
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00:00 all-new Passat B9
00:32 Passat R-Line Oryx White
02:13 R-Line interior
03:22 Elegance in Chili Red
03:36 Length and Superb brother
04:14 DCC Pro and lights
05:00 Remote parking
05:49 Interior: Elegance
07:48 User interface
08:59 Build quality and storage
10:33 Rear seats
12:23 Trunk / boot
14:30 PHEV loading area
15:24 Engines
16:03 Plugin-Hybrid
16:34 Acceleration electric
17:12 eHybrid driving
19:33 DCC Pro suspension
23:32 Recuperation
26:04 Comfort and noise
27:45 Acceleration PHEV
29:09 Acceleration TDI
30:30 Consumption
31:13 Passat vs Tiguan
32:40 Estate vs SUV
33:14 Thomas' configuration
#VW #VWPassat
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You should review the SQ8 2024 next time. It is gorgeous
How is this fuckin laptop stuck on dash better than integrated infotainment into the dash and climate buttons ????????????????????? Disgusting
Not only passengers, as a driver as well, I really enjoy sedan/estate more than SUVs.
Another great review with insightful comments. The commentary comparing Passat Estate / Sedan to the Tiguan SUV was very interesting and spot on. The commentary on the plugin hybrid driving characteristics was very insightful. Thomas is the finest auto journalist out there in RUclips world. I appreciate his objectivity and insights.
Highly appreciate your kind words 🙏🙏 always feel free to share and recommend 😎
I love 95% of this vehicle.unfortunately I can’t live with the 5% I dislike.The irony is it’s what’s missing that I don’t like,The integrated dash and real buttons.and VW are doing this for every vehicle.How many sales have they got to loose before they listen.Thank you for another great review.
I said the same thing before, but the steering wheel button was enough to put VW back on the 'consider it' list. Yes, real sliders would make that position even more solid.
Then you just go with Skoda Superb.
Thorough review of a boring family car by Thomas = my favourite kind of car video
LETS GO
=)
No doubt, I'd choose the Škoda Superb 4 rather than this quite conservative Passat. Even if they are false twins, the Superb looks more progressive and elegant. Also, the fastback is classier.
Agreed, I hate sw cars which look like funeral cars. That 15 screen is dreadful. I really don't like vw's new design language with the latest models. And upmarket my ass without leather seats.. Vw is becoming the nokia of smartphones.
Go drive a Passat and a Superb and even an Audi A4 back to back . . .no comparison in the quality and ride comfort in each car. They are all very different. Each one is a marked step above the other, with the Skoda at the bottom.
@@CorciochSo funny! We have many Passat and Superb in our company, no doubt, the VW can't reach the level of Škoda. I have no recent experience with Audi (because I prefer BMW!).
@@Corcioch Depends where you drive - the A6, which is a more direct competitor to the Superb if you can live with 100 liters less boot space, feels awful on Irish back roads and over speed bumps crashing and banging over everything thanks to the 'sporty' suspension, while the Superb floats over the whole lot, to the point where it can hold grip on rough bends with a lot more confidence than more sporty cars, so going point to point on bad roads it's faster, safer and more comfortable.
If you stay at or below the speed limit, the extra handling at the limit you might get with an Audi on a track day is irrelevant, but everyone in the car benefits from the comfortable ride in the Skoda on every single trip. Now that Citroen have been cost engineered out of making interesting cars with proper suspension, the Superb is one of the best riding cars left.
It's a great pleasure to watch this review. Car is awesome - Skoda vibes make passat even more attractive. And I like that this is not Chinese, not an EV and not a SUV. Wish a great market success, absolutely gorgeous
Thanks, Thomas. Looks great. I miss my Passat, bought a new B5 in 2004, was totaled by another driver in Jan 2024...so many memories in that car, too bad this new Passat will never see the shores of the USA...
Thank you. Been waiting for this video to come
The first and best review on the passat B9❤
Very good review, not too much information for a regular drivers, very good job which really helped to understand more about new Passat and compare to previous one.
First impression after 40 secs is that the front looks more Golf-like. Somehow looks smaller than a Passat should look even though the figure say otherwise.
Great review, clear but detailed!
Thanks for the movie, as always great job!
Thomas, do you know what is the durability of the DCC pro dumpers? It cost a lot but will it last longer than normal dumpers?
Really really nice and in-depth review Thomas, I am highly appreciating your attention to detail, kind and smooth explanations! Leah is also smiles so nice there it can be visible from the reflections of car :) It might be so nice if she test-drives sometime for the next videos. I would love to know also her point of view about the cars. You both are perfect and I really like your all reviews. I always recommend your videos to my friends for a reference.
I thought VW got the memo that costumers wants physical knobs.
I think it was about proper buttons on the steering wheel
Lol
That’s way is cheaper, Volkswagen became cheap shit including materials.
Thomas what really happened to luxurious real leather?
@@ThomasMarshall-pg7ye I don't think it's luxurious to sit on dead animals
Thank you Thomas!
the car is very good but thet screen is very huge and has no buttons that is sad
Unfortunately all the elegance and good proportions of the previous Passat are gone.
This one looks chunky, bulky with really long overhangs in the front and rear.
Technically it's probably a better car but it is far less attractive and charismatic than the previous generation.
Looks like an older generation Renault
I agree, @mart_en
Just looks like a bigger golf. Not just that, they mixed the mk7 and mk8 styling together.
I disagree. This one's gorgeous.
@@UsefulSitesI wanted to comment „looks like a Golf“ but when I look at it with Renault in mind, looks indeed like a Megane.
The first and best review on the Passat B9)))
Thanks 🙏 please share 😎
@autogefuehl Do you know why VW has stopped using the rear VW Logo as trunk open?
Backup camera under the badge was one of the best implementations. Why have they stopped that? You don't see it in ID.7 or B9 Passat for instance.
Great job! Is there option with smaller touch screen? It seems that one is too big.
@autogefuehl do you know when the PHEV versions will be coming out to order?
I really liked your comparison to the Tiguan. I have a hard time choosing.
Another great review Thomas, danke. Love the end. I am one of those waiting for the new Superb or Octavia VRS driving review. Personally don’t understand why someone will go for that Passat if you have Superb on the market.
It's got to the point that Passats are selling second hand cheaper than similar mileage and age Superbs where I live because the dogs on the street know the Superb is a better car. By better I mean more practical and cheaper to keep on the road.
What about heating in PHEV? With ICE or heat pump?
Diesel 💪🔥
And i dont know why the Passat looks ssoooo much like Golf ..that part i dont understand...there is now one in the near Dealership and i thought it was a Golf 🤦
It is the new hood/front
Thanks, great review.
When Skoda Superb is available for a driving review?
If this is on the market before the Superb, it'll be the first time since the Superb was released that VW is making an estate car with more boot space than Skoda.
18:05 all those animations on the instrument panel and the main display in the middle for everyday functions, would piss me off :D
At least it doesn't seem to have 20 different random beeps and pings to 'welcome' you into the car or tell you it has no idea where the lane you're following is like a lot of the Asian cars are doing.
Thanks for another great presentation Thomas. You chose the PHEV over the ICE. What is the weight penalty for the PHEV ?
aprox. 220-250 kg
R-Line lowered, 19" alloys, with a cat back duel exhaust and a ECU tune .. BOOM! 🔥🔥🔥
Which one is quieter new Tiguan or new Passat?
That green colour is fire! 😀
I don't like the front/hood of the new series, looks too much like the Golf front, and well I am old fashioned I guess. Got the previous Passat with the analog meters, somehow for me it is more classy then a full digital cockpit.
I have a MK7 Golf and to me this Passat looks very much alike from the front. Definitely need more differentiation between model families and generations in the looks department.
The gap between Volkswagen and other cheaper alternatives and the "premium" brands like Merc and BMW is getting small. The only thing missing is the RWD drivetrains and better engine options.
Apart from the exterior front design, this is a real winner!
must have taken them a whole 2 mins to design that interior. Ok stick a tablet in there, we are done. Let's go to lunch
More like 30 seconds. „Let’s search for other manufacturers interior“. Most of the screens look like they are supplied by the same manufacturer.
I like a lot this car (Superb too, same family). What is the reliability in comparaison of japanese cars ?
Hi, any experience with the basic petrol eTSI non-PHEV engine ? On paper, it looks weak for such a big car but how it works in real life? Thx
My mother buy a new passat back in 1974, she really love that car!
I like it. I seem to be the only one here but i like it. Im not saying uts better looking than the old one, this one definitely looks younger and sportier but some people might prefer a more mature car, like the previous gen was. The interior and the increased size is the problem. How much longer will they get? 10cm every 8yrs, it will be a boat in 2-3 decades.
The CD value comparison is for combi Vs combi not sedan vs combi, right?
what car does Tomas own and drive?
A very detailed video Thomas. The updated technology sounds great. The size of the Passat is now too much for my needs, so I hope VW bring back the Golf wagon into Australia for the next model, with these updated tech.
Mariposite green is my pick of colours.
Thanks m8!
I would be interested if you added comments about comfort from Leah in future reviews. We are not all tall like you!.
Also It would be interesting to hear how scared she is by your driving, in comparison tests. @@autogefuehl
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This b9 model of passat is amazing but i still love my b6 variant more
請問New Passat e-hybird跟 ID7 tourer
你比較喜歡哪一台？
Chilli Red Is my favourite Passat Paint Colour 😊
We see her ring Thomas. Congratulations 🥳
Very nice ... It was about time ... P.s. DIESEL is still THE KING.
Yep, I think we will be driving them for many years to come.
Passat family is very good car. From Japan.
Any word if the phevs will come in AWD? Talked with Volkswagen sales rep and they said no AWD for new Passat and new Tiguan….
I like the interior!🙏👍👏🇸🇪
Great review and a great looking watch! What make is it please?
Alpina
@@autogefuehl thanks!
What is fuel consumption and rpm at 130kmph in hybrid?
I can't stop thinking with 4,92 there would be fantastic Sharan, slick, effcent and still not that heavy as multivan, which btw in near future could be unrelevant with T7 caravelle based on Ford Tourneo recently shown.
very cool~
Is leather really less sustainable than plastic covered "vegan" leather (basically rebranded PVC), which needs more chemicals to produce and will land in a depot and polute the waters after some years..?
Yes, leather uses more chemicals and also ends up in landfills.
@@robingoergner725but surely leather will biodegrade which plastic won’t?
I'm pretty sure what qualifies as leather as used in car seats that aren't coachbuilt Roll Royce style is a long way from biodegradeable natural leather anyway. The best reason to continue using leather is that no demand for leather will turn it into waste from the beef industry rather than all the resources used to grow the cows going to meat only, making beef even more wasteful. If cows were being farmed for leather first and meat second then I'd be all for cutting leather usage, but it's being produced as a side effect of the meat industry, so the meat side of the industry will continue to lay waste to the planet whether the leather is used or not.
Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. I also bought cars with animal skin leather seats before I did my research and got to know the industry. The most important thing is: With today's modern materials, you have nothing to lose, just to gain. You achieve the same kind of luxury and comfort or even better while having the same or better durability with less impact on humans, animals and the environment.
You can use fabric/cloth, microfibre or leatherette. The classic approach is using oil/plastic as source material. Overall, a vehicle contains about 300 kg plastic. A car seat needs about 5 kg plastic. So the overall plastic share for the seats is very low and it is at this moment the most efficient way to produce a car seat. A couple of litres of fuel equals a car seat basically. So if you want to save oil/plastic, rather look at consumption for energy, fuel and heating and to other car parts than the seat. Note that animal skin leather also always contains a plastic coating for durability. However, long-term we should of course find raw oil alternatives. So going further, seats can be made from recyclables (e.g. from PET-bottles or old fishing nets) or even increased share of plant-based materials (like pine oil, canola oil or start-up materials like Pinatex from pineapple leaves or Desertex from cactus fibre or the mixed-plant-based Mirum, so be seen at ruclips.net/video/S1aNZeoatmE/видео.html). On a calculation base, by ditching animal skin leather from car interiors, the amount of emissions (CO2e) is reduced by 85 (!) % (www.press.bmwgroup.com/africa-dom-easteurope/article/detail/T0403389EN/on-the-market-from-2023:-bmw-and-mini-models-with-vegan-interiors?language=en) - and that is a very conservative calculation. So it is at this moment the most important thing you can do to make car interiors more sustainable.
A good example for high-end luxury with ventilated animal free seats is the BMW X7 with Sensafin: ruclips.net/video/1pRNkW9nrrw/видео.html
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Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally.
In a high animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat is the "first" misuse case, the hide remains a profitable body part. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you demand it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and harms the environment, you make them more profitable. Alternatively, you could support industries with your wallet which try to improve the sustainability of materials. Also, if you turn the argument around to "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize that it doesn't make sense (and is ethically doubtful) to discuss the primary use of individual body parts of mammals. Mind experiment: You are getting slain down on the street; would it matter to you if it was for your smartphone or for your purse? Remember that animal skin leather is no different to fur, fur is just leather where the hair is still on. And fur is widely not accepted for clothing anymore, and of course not for cars.
We cannot change what we have bought in the past, but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future.
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@@autogefuehl That’s interesting. Thank you for the links and information, I’ll have to check them out and get better educated on the subject!
Keep up the amazing work!
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Überlegenswert wäre, wenn deine Frau dabei ist, ob sie am Ende noch mal kurz ihre Meinung sagen möchte zu dem Auto, ist vielleicht interessant mal ein paar Worte von einem nicht Profi, und einem nicht Mann zu hören.
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Elegance Is the Trim that I would pick 😊
The new Camry looks higher end and more mature design wise.
What's up with the naked b pillar inside? Looks like some dacia product
I love your Video!❤
I prefer this one to my current passat gte way more elegant and more comfortable. The only problem is the lack of awd like my current passat variant gte.
Confused about buying between x1 and. x3, q1, q3, glc, given the many similarities and differences, what do you advise me? Although I am looking for luxury and appearance first, then ride comfort and a comfortable suspension system, and I do not care about running and performance, what do you advise me?
Alfa Romeo Tonale :)
Its bad in the phev you loose the ability to put the parcel shelf under the boot floor. I don’t think you do on superb?
I can't decide if it looks worse on the outside or inside. Great review though.
Cheers!
Can Passat catch up with Audi A6? Well I think Passat this generation looks so young, it doesn’t have the sense of composure of large vehicle like Audi, at least from exterior feeling.
In our china especially in the northern , Passat is seem to be a symbol of good taste and modesty, especially for those who employed within the governmental or institutional systems. We Chinese have a meme: A man with black Passat can conquer any mother-in-law.
hope they bring a true Passat R as a successor to Arteon R shooting brake, sadly they discontinued😢. i mean in older generation they already had a R from passat the Passat R36 with 300hp so it would be nice to see again a R version from Passat😎 and honestly the front looks better with r line design. the elegance doesnt look good in my opinion.
yes but they will stop after 2026 so no successor for this model sadly
R-line and diesel for me!
I would choose the Skoda Superb as more stylish and features physical dials 😊
I've always liked the look of the Passat sedans, it's just a shame they ditched that body variant. I wonder if they'll do the same for the North American market which doesn't offer the Superb fastback alternative.
Just buy a Škoda Superb instead, tbh. Nicer and more usable interior and looks better than this new Passat.
You might even save some money:)
Or maybe don't buy something boring like skoda or vw
The best of the new VW Passat is
That you can buy a Skoda Superb instead ❤
@@johnnysilverhand1733I mean in my personal opinion, the all new Superb has a more premium looking interior with it's colour options, lesser reliance on gloss black plastic and more shapely dash. The additional climate buttons make it more usable.
Skoda drives like a mule.
Already have a CC inlike and enjoybthe car still so I wouldn't go for a passat but an eventual Arteon replacer, which isn't happening, so my last VW is the Classy and Sporty CC (desing wise one of the best VW ever
This looks really good, nice job VW. It’s too bad this will not be offered in the U.S. for those whose B7 Passats are obsolete and not looking forward to Accord or Camry with CVT. Why can’t a version be built in Chattanooga?
Your videos are brilliant as usual. Too bad VW doesn’t make a saloon/sedan version of the car OR sell it in USA (the European version not the shit USA version) otherwise I’d buy it. I don’t need a car that damn long nor do I need a hatch in the rear for cargo I’ll never carry.
Funny how one of the trim lines is called elegance, when there is none elegance at all. At least the last generation had some moderate class, sharp lines, and looked somewhat grown up.
This now looks like a early 2000’s Ford mondeo or something to come out of china 😅
vw and bmw are really struggling in the design department these last couple of years.
I Love VW ❤️
Will the new Passat and Tiguan get the new illuminated logo from the updated golf? If not, that's a mistake.
I'm on the fence about these glowing logos. It seems cheap in some ways.
how does this huge car have about the same cargo space as the 2010-2015 VW jetta sportwagen (66.9 cu ft)??
very beautiful car i love volkswagen
1/1のラジコンですね！個人的には外見はRラインで内装は通常モデルが好みです💛
4x4 in plugin hybrid?
Underestimated difference between R-Line and Elegance: The gloss black around the cupholder area.
The red one ist a Business 😉
How is the microfiber age as oposed to leather?
I ve seen a lot of microfibre cars, also older ones, and I wasnt disappointed so far. All depends on the quality grade
@@autogefuehl First of all thanks for replying. Most channels are silent so big up! I think tho, that in the average older 5-10 years old car, it's more common to find good leather as it's still considered as a luxury option than good quality microfiber. Also i think leather must be easier to maintain unstained and dust free than any other fabric. My 2 cents. Cheers!
I always try and guess whether thomas is going to like the “door closing sound” after he closes the door. i’m nearly always wrong haha. clearly im not hearing something he is!
also try and guess the amount of times thomas will say “accentuations” per video. I think this was 0!! i’m hoping for at least 4 or 5 in each video!
Overall, I like the the changes, I'm not sure I like the new VW generations T-Cross style rear and taillights.
AWD? Coming to North America?
😅 7:45 In all my cars i had seats stained by almost all body fluids, foods and beverages that are hard to clean! 😂😂😂
I was wondering, couldn't they've made Diesel+ePHEV Hybrid? Wouldn't that make a car even more a fuel efficient??
My understanding is that because diesel engines are restricted or charged extra in some urban emission control zones and most people buying hybrid will expect their car to not have a problem in low emission areas that making a diesel (And having people see how much more fuel efficient it is than a petrol hybrid and buying for this reason) could lead to dissatisfied customers who discover they still have to pay to drive in low emission zones. If VW, or the car industry in general, could be believed regarding the actual pollution level of their engines, this would be less of a problem.
It's not like petrol is particularly clean either - diesel is lower greenhouse gas, so it is easier on the planet overall, but more NOx to create local health effects in people when used in urban gridlock. Diesel particulate is filtered out on anything made in the last 15ish years, and petrol particulates look to be potentially more harmful because they make nanoparticles rather than visible soot (And they're only getting filters now), so there's no straight winner on this one between petrol and diesel - it can be argued that even the particles saved on combustion emissions by electric cars are being clawed back by the extra tyre particles caused by their extra weight, but when you consider brake dust and that combustion particulates are the ones with proven negative health impacts, IC cars are still way worse.
Until they make replacing the battery a similar price to replacing an IC engine, make batteries actually perform like new for decades or make batteries modular enough that replacing the bad sections in a cost efficient manner is viable, the second hand market isn't jumping on that money pit.
as w VW user, i have mixed feelings, Passat looks kinda GOLF'ish? Ofcourse back is really nice. I dunno - i love it and hate it at the same time :)
Imagine me living north Sweden trying to work out that non pysical climate or some other settings. Where are the knobs ? There will be also a Alltrack version ?
Yep thats why we are pushing the manufacturers back to real knobs! And it works: ruclips.net/video/8flSRQXdrtE/видео.htmlsi=p1UYFeoVWWQQ6ERP
Alltrack? Not sure but if there’s one u ll surely see it here!
@@autogefuehl Alltrack has a huge fanbase here, due to height and permanent traction. And also, not all northern roads are paved. And it's cheaper than V90 Cross country
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What's up with no engine covers now? Lack of supply?
Cost saving?
I don't know what black magic VW did ... months ago i hated the design and now it has grown on me plenty !
Till the headlamp section it is good after that is not polarising for me
Skoda superb had nailed in terms of design which is very attractive
Same fate goes with Kodiaq which is good looking and Tiguan which is not for my liking
This is my personal opinion 😅
Definitely more refined than the Skoda Superb in terms of noise levels and driving characteristics but the Superb has a more usable interior and better styling in my opinion.
As a Tiguan owner I'm happy how it drives for an SUV. But if compared to a classical sedan, Tiguan can roll in those corners, so it can make your passengers sick.
Thomas, I test drove a Passat but I decided to buy a Mercedes-Benz sedan--der M-B Wagen ist besser gebaut. You pay more but you get what you pay for. Jedoch ist ein Volkswagen auch gut gebaut--Deutsch gemacht. Also, in your last video Lia had some on-camera time. Du solltest das öfter tun--sie macht deine Videos viel besser. 😉
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@@autogefuehl Schoenen Tag noch. 🙂
To bad that there isn’t AWD in the plug in version like Volvo V60 plug in.