Ranking Every Primary Weapon In Helldivers 2

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  • @grandmofftogan
    @grandmofftogan  День назад +3

    What are your favorite primary weapons?

    • @drago8664
      @drago8664 15 часов назад

      I like the dominator, crossbow, and blitzer!

    • @AzureIV
      @AzureIV 9 часов назад +1

      So, I was here since the game dropped in the beginning. This was my favorite primary list in order of use over all the patches and warbonds as time went on:
      1. SG-225 Breaker
      2. JAR-5 Dominator/SG-225IE Breaker Incendiary
      3. PLAS-1 Scorcher
      4. PLAS-101 Purifier/SG-451 Cookout

    • @Andaius20
      @Andaius20 7 часов назад

      It's hard but if we're going for generalized picks good vs everyone? It's a toss up between the Lib Pen, and the Adjudicator. Adjudicator hits harder but Lib Pen performs better at full auto. IF your good at taping those singles or doubles into heads It's awesome! Otherwise Lib Pen you can just hold it down and the vast majority of your rounds will hit close to where your aiming.

    • @jeremijk915
      @jeremijk915 26 минут назад

      THE BLITZER, WHICH IS THE BEST WEAPON AGAINST BUGS. WHY DID YOU PUT IT IN C TIER THIS IS BLATANT RAGE BAIT AT THIS POINT

    • @grandmofftogan
      @grandmofftogan  2 минуты назад

      @@jeremijk915 WHY ARE YOU YELLING?

  • @midwestvikings5239
    @midwestvikings5239 16 часов назад +27

    Bro the reprimand is so underrated. If you can pulse fire it and don’t waste your ammo that gun rips through devastors and hive gaurds like a piece of paper.

    • @nick4754
      @nick4754 8 часов назад +3

      I think they should move it's category the reason it's underrated imo is that people go in expecting an SMG and if you use it like an SMG it will feel pretty rough.
      Also move the diligence counter sniper to sniper rifle arrowhead so that category isn't just one gun

    • @N7Allfather
      @N7Allfather 4 часа назад +1

      Yeah i use it single fire and its phenomenal

    • @LaserTractor
      @LaserTractor 3 часа назад +2

      If you want to use smg in single-burst fire mode - just take Diligence CS and have way more fun (and less stuрid recoil you need to manage)

    • @N7Allfather
      @N7Allfather 3 часа назад +3

      @LaserTractor not the same at all

    • @LaserTractor
      @LaserTractor 3 часа назад +2

      @@N7Allfather true, Diligence CS is better

  • @Sabindurain
    @Sabindurain 11 часов назад +25

    GMT: "Crossbow does what no other primary weapon can do and that's close 5 bug holes with a single magazine"
    The Eruptor: "Am I a joke to you?"

    • @grandmofftogan
      @grandmofftogan  11 часов назад +10

      Yeah you're right lol, but doing that with the Eruptor is a death sentence and a chore.

    • @Sabindurain
      @Sabindurain 11 часов назад +6

      ​​​@@grandmofftogan hard disagree, because an Eruptor round doesn't have an arcing shot you can more easily snipe out bug holes and fabricators from a longer distance much more easily. Even up close if you land your shot mostly inside and you aren't within arms length then you're usually safe, sometimes you get unlucky with the shrapnel.
      But besides that silly nick pick I like this list, good stuff.

    • @FrozenByFire3
      @FrozenByFire3 9 часов назад +5

      ​@@Sabindurainyeah until you realize the eruptor has a max range of like 140-145m and it's not that hard to snipe bug holes at further range than that with the crossbow. + Below that range it's quite easy with the crossbow once you get used to it. Higher damage output overall, one handed, doesn't have absolutely garbage ergonomics and twice the rate of fire (not counting shot cancelling which has its own issues) eruptor is Max C tier lol

    • @LaserTractor
      @LaserTractor 3 часа назад +2

      Eruptor does less
      And way slower
      Crossbow supremacy since devs took away _the good_ shrapnel from Eruptor

    • @Sabindurain
      @Sabindurain 2 часа назад

      ​@FrozenByFire3 i wasn't arguing the Eruptor was better, just disagreeing it was a far from a bad option for bug holes if you used the range it does have to your advantage.

  • @LaserTractor
    @LaserTractor 3 часа назад +10

    Blitzer in C tier?
    Light pen trash is in A tier?
    My god, this is Avengers-level glazing🤮

    • @Kitkat-986
      @Kitkat-986 Час назад +5

      Tenderizer is S tier, learn to aim noob.

    • @LaserTractor
      @LaserTractor 20 минут назад

      @ it's always "learn to [something]" argument when weapon or perk is trash
      Yea yea

    • @bonedaddyofthepuff9458
      @bonedaddyofthepuff9458 15 минут назад

      No fr, the Tenderizer is *really* good when you learn enemy weak points because it has no recoil, and Super high damage. Yeah, Light pen sucks, but if you know where to hit 'em, everything goes down in a mag or less save for elites

    • @LaserTractor
      @LaserTractor 10 минут назад

      @@bonedaddyofthepuff9458 thing is, when you make tierlist, you must put your biases aside.
      Is Tenderizer good in light pen AR category? Yes.
      Is it S tier in that category? Maybe
      Is it S tier among all weapons? Hell no🤣
      Wasting half of magazine or whole mag on one medium enemy is just atrociously poor

  • @Alsborg
    @Alsborg Час назад +2

    S+: Crossbow and Purifier
    S: Blitzer, Dominator and Scorcher
    A+: CS Diligence, Adjudicator, I Breaker, Lib Pen.

  • @TheTyrantAussie
    @TheTyrantAussie 4 часа назад +6

    Bro here forgot about the purifiers 1000 rpm

  • @dankcaesar4760
    @dankcaesar4760 15 часов назад +8

    Dilegence counter sniper is great as a ghostdiver

  • @herbivorethecarnivore8447
    @herbivorethecarnivore8447 5 часов назад +2

    Sicklechads able to casually walk forward and spray like a lunatic with no concern for wasting ammo

  • @Bl0cksy
    @Bl0cksy 57 минут назад +1

    Finally some respect for the Halt, I use it as my Bug primary cause of how good it is at stunning chargers and hordes. It’s useful in damn near every situation, against hordes or single enemies, I never feel like I’ve run out of ammo cause of the individual loading, and the guns recoil is relatively low and very controllable too. Possibly the only issue I have with the tier list is how low the reprimand is, and yes, your points are absolutely right but if you sim down sights the recoil is almost completely gone and it allows you to absolutely shred through almost any enemies no matter the faction. I tend to use this on bots, and it allows me to destoryed devastators, hulks, and any enemy. (For grunts I tend to use the senator, I just like the revolver, that’s just how I play. I use the loyalist for bugs). I feel like the Reprimand desrves an A instead purely because of the insane damage and armor pen

  • @dankcaesar4760
    @dankcaesar4760 15 часов назад +10

    bro the halt is so underrated, its my favourite primary tbh, and I NEVER see anyone else use it lol.

    • @Thetrueshogun
      @Thetrueshogun 10 часов назад +4

      Ever since i got it, i haven't used any other primary. Its all you could ask for, medium armor penetrating PLUS freezing most enemies in place! its so unique and deserves so much more attention.

    • @ixirip3889
      @ixirip3889 Час назад

      I would use it if it didn't have bs WoT-like aim that can miss on your first bullet at a target that is 10-15m away (bloom, not recoil)
      If they do remove that stupid aspect I would 100% agree

  • @Royalwaffles
    @Royalwaffles 6 часов назад +1

    I run the reprimand not just because its got a very beefy sound, great damage and medium pen (though the accuracy and muzzle velocity is suboptimal and literally subsonic), but because the total damage you can deal with your entire ammo supply is near the top of the pack for primaries (excluding explosives and shotguns since those are based off of peak damage and all pellets hitting), truly an incredible smg

  • @Thetrueshogun
    @Thetrueshogun 10 часов назад +5

    I completely agree with you that the Halt is S-tier. Best Shotgun in the game 💪

  • @leonj6256
    @leonj6256 7 часов назад +7

    Hey greetings from Germany 😁👋🏻
    Interessting Video, my english is not the best, but you speak slow and clearly so I can understand the most you say 👍🏻.
    For the next Ranking, maybe it's better when you make different lists for the different types of enemies in this game.
    Have a nice day 🍀

    • @grandmofftogan
      @grandmofftogan  7 часов назад +3

      Thank you! I'm glad that people from across the world are able to watch my videos and understand them.

  • @SnakeUA389
    @SnakeUA389 2 часа назад +1

    I'm tired of seeing constitution in lowest tier possible everywhere, it's not fair, since it pushes you to use it extremely efficiently and rewards it, while also having a unique bayonet with high melee damage which is really cool for bugs(or even basic squids). It's one of the weapons which is fun to use for me.
    Out of my experience, it honestly works well where counter-sniper diligence does. Yes, csd's faster shooting sounds like a superior option for dps, but ammo conservation is fantastic for constitution. I wish we got it to get lvl 4 ap buff so it would shine for more people.

  • @Geotexify
    @Geotexify Час назад +1

    Dominator should be in A. It wrecks Bots, it staggers most enemies, it smashes medium Bugs. The only reason it isn't S is because it's quite difficult to use against the Elevated Overseers in my experience. That holds it back.

    • @WretchHound
      @WretchHound 46 минут назад

      Putting the Dominator in C and the Slugger in A is crazy to me. Use the Dominator as a shotgun, it's a better Slugger in every way

  • @renatobegic9983
    @renatobegic9983 День назад +8

    Great work Helldiver :)

  • @maxvasconcelosgaming
    @maxvasconcelosgaming 2 часа назад +1

    The halt is very underrated for sure! Very good if you make the mode swap changes. Solid list overall.

  • @sevferaly
    @sevferaly 2 часа назад +2

    damn, thought i was waching a video from a big creator. i almost didnt belive it when i saw the 730 subs.
    i really liked this video, keep up the work. :)
    also greetings from germany👋🏼

    • @grandmofftogan
      @grandmofftogan  2 часа назад

      Thank you!

    • @Hyozann1
      @Hyozann1 58 минут назад +1

      Had the same thought! Just got a new sub!

  • @joshuabeaudoin4290
    @joshuabeaudoin4290 10 часов назад +3

    I agree that the reprimand is in a weird place, however i think you're discounting the medium armor penetration, í don't mind it's accuracy issues, but i do agree that it should be one handed as with it being two, you might as well use the penetrator

    • @Kitkat-986
      @Kitkat-986 Час назад +1

      I want to like it, but as a bot player, I fight at medium range a lot, and the accuracy kills it for me. If they fixed the accuracy, it'd be in my top 3 primaries.

  • @AnonEMus-cp2mn
    @AnonEMus-cp2mn 7 часов назад +1

    Having a lot of fun with the Tenderizer’s accuracy and blistering dps on the 850rpm fire mode against the lightly armored illuminate. Its superb handling and follow-up-shots makes it easier than the counter sniper to take out watchers and elevated overseers.
    P.S. I made the mistake if not buying the sta-52 when I had the chance, and I hope it is still in the superstore rotation to also fulfill my full-auto playstyle.

    • @Kitkat-986
      @Kitkat-986 Час назад

      I love the tenderizer, it's superb on illuminate, but I use it on bots too. Nailing dev headshots is satisfying.

  • @minimike78
    @minimike78 Час назад

    Blitzer and Reprimand clearly underrated, should be on B or A tier easily.

  • @KidIcarus97
    @KidIcarus97 9 минут назад

    As someone that played a lot of baseline Punisher for a while before getting the Halt and maining that, the Slugger feels bad for the sheer damage drop in comparison.

  • @ErdenizSANLAV
    @ErdenizSANLAV 2 часа назад

    I legit think regular punisher is one of the best terminid weapons in the game. Sure it doesn't deal with medium armor but only regular medium armor threat is hive guard and you can still manage them with it. It's magic is in that it basically staggers everything with pretty much every shot. It trivializes freakin' stalkers, has great weapon handling for when they swarm you up close, it's combination of high stagger and decent spread helps managing large groups as they try to close in etc. I don't have the halt yet, but to me it seems like at least specifically for terminids anyway, you have to choose between stun and decent damage with it, whereas punisher has great stagger and great damage on that front all the time anyway. And once again, completely trivializing stalkers is a huge plus. And staggering capability helps in team games too.
    I tend agree with you on the adjudicator though. To me it seems like one of the most overhyped weapons in the game. Sure, it is almost universal and works to some degree vs almost everything in every faction. But in my experience it doesn't do any of it particularly well. Can it go through scout strider, hive guard, and overseer armor? Yes, but it also takes it almost a whole magazine of carefully recoil managed fire, and unless you land great majority of a burst on a weakspot, which ain't easy with that recoil, it'll take forever in killing any of those. Scorcher can kill all of those A LOT faster, and A LOT easier in my opinion. And against swarms, due to its high recoil, lowish fire rate, and small magazine, it's meh at best. It has a good scope, but not the accuracy at long range to make that count.
    New killzone themed SMG that looks like a cross between Bison and Uzi is probably the worst SMG in my experience. It feels fun, but seems to do worse than regular defender, while barely have any more of a meaninful difference in magazine capacity I feel like, and most of that difference is flying all over the place rather than intended target thanks to its higher recoil.
    Laser-assault rifle thing I also dislike with some fervor, mainly due to about a second long delay between clicking fire and actually firing, and its damage seems meh too.

  • @peternitti3671
    @peternitti3671 16 минут назад

    STA-11 has been the only primary weapon I use since I got it.

  • @PerfectDeath4
    @PerfectDeath4 9 часов назад

    From what i've heard from Lib Concussive mains is that their use of it is to support their team. Some weapons have very little to no stagger force. The Lib Con trades ROF AND DMG for a LOT of stagger. Like its kinda silly how much stagger this gun has. Which allows a player to sweep to the sides and keep pushing enemies back while say a teammate uses the flamethrower or while strategem is coming in. Solo play its bad for sure. xD
    To add a point about the Tenderizer, you can bump its RPM to 850 making it's DPS REALLY GOOD and the recoil isn't that bad either. Main issue is the reload time so it combos very well with the siege ready passive.
    Now the Pumeler is not like the lib con, the lib con deals lots of STAGGER. The Pumeler deals the same type of EMS as stun grenades and EMS strikes. This stun however, does not last long and after its duration got nerfed it has definitely fallen off from its early niche as EMS stun is stronger than STAGGER. One reason is that enemies are easier to hit with follow up shots, another is their animations stop (like with chargers)
    The Plasma Purifier does deal same dmg between single and charged, just that the AoE probably deals dmg to different HP pool or something. The gun basically has no ROF limit uncharged making its potential DPS higher than the Plasma rifle if you can click fast enough (or bind a key for insane BRRT). Worse ammo economy in that case but the tap fire can be reserved for those moments you want to mag dump ASAP.
    With the JAR-5 I'd say based on the footage that your problem is probably how heavy the gun is, much like the eruptor the JAR-5 is slower to move to the aim point, this combined with the recoil can make it feel hard to wield and lead shots. The projectile speed is actually comparable to the eruptor, plasma and crossbow weapons. So I dunno why its projectile speed is such a negative?

  • @MegaDeeEm
    @MegaDeeEm 6 часов назад +1

    Isn't the Knight and the kill zone SMG practically the same gun? How are they far from the tier list? Their difference is very slightl

    • @KudoRedfox
      @KudoRedfox 42 минуты назад

      "B-but muh fun"

  • @Sidestep090
    @Sidestep090 20 часов назад +5

    Bro i was shocked to see that you only have like 700 subs, i thought it would be closer to 100 000 for sure.

    • @grandmofftogan
      @grandmofftogan  19 часов назад +5

      Thank you! Maybe one day I'll get somewhere close to that.

  • @BlackD1amond22
    @BlackD1amond22 9 часов назад +1

    crossbow is definitely S tier, its like the eruptor in terms of damage and utility, but has better handling and is one handed and can be used with a shield.

    • @PerfectDeath4
      @PerfectDeath4 8 часов назад

      Considering how EVERYONE says its the best primary in the game I was surprised with his wavering on it. But looking at the footage he was getting pounded by hunters and warriors at CQC range. He didn't mention it but the crossbow has a literal dead zone where you die if you hit something too close. But also just a little beyond that dead zone is a ricochet zone if you try to aim for the floor for easy splash dmg kills the bolt will bounce. This makes the crossbow BAD at CQC so most players play around that. Part of why jetpacks are rather meta combined with light armor you can kite.

  • @alexpoland2998
    @alexpoland2998 7 часов назад +2

    BLITZER C TIER?!

  • @larryjeff
    @larryjeff 7 минут назад

    Immo, the only S tier primary is exploding crossbow. Blitzer, scorcher and purifier would be A tier

  • @Fosak3n
    @Fosak3n 2 часа назад

    justice for the normal punisher

  • @ibramgaunt8863
    @ibramgaunt8863 51 минуту назад

    My go to DMR is the BR14 really like that gun. Just wish it was a burts not an auto, but honestly i take what i want to have fun with.

  • @STRANGE-xq4wb
    @STRANGE-xq4wb 23 часа назад +4

    Purifier and crossbow best primary hands down

  • @Adelnoor_
    @Adelnoor_ 3 часа назад

    If you like one variant more than the others you should put it in a higher position but still in the same tier if necessary.
    For example, there's no way the Breaker S&P is A tier just because the normal breaker is B. From what i've seen in the video, you dont modify the order of weapons in the single tiers after one is added, but rather slap them one after the other in the same order you rank them. This is not really the best way of creating tierlists.
    Also, i believe some weapons need to be specifically ranked to one determined faction because of the difference in gameplay there is. An accurate weapon is much better on the automaton front because it's necessary to hit weakpoints to be useful, while it could be way less useful against hordes of bugs

  • @xannymanny9754
    @xannymanny9754 5 часов назад

    I feel like the constitution is over hated. I started playing like less than a month ago, and so far it’s one of my 3 most used weapons. Landing headshots with it is super satisfying and the bayonet actually goes crazy once you figure out how to use it properly. Plus trench raider vibes

    • @ThePilot1984
      @ThePilot1984 4 часа назад

      The constitution doesn't really have that much of an identity
      The bayonet is outclassed by the stun lance which does the same DMG + stun effect + it's one handed to pair with ballistic shield
      as for the actual gun: anything the constitution can do, the DCS can do...but faster and with better versatility

    • @LaserTractor
      @LaserTractor 3 часа назад

      Glazing is insane

  • @AzureIV
    @AzureIV 9 часов назад

    I hope they buff all the ARs so they can actually be decent.
    Right now they are all underperforming in comparison to so many other weapons.
    And I would love a decent AR vs. the Squids.

  • @Putt-Putt
    @Putt-Putt 6 часов назад

    Whats the best weapon against illuminate shields?

    • @herbivorethecarnivore8447
      @herbivorethecarnivore8447 5 часов назад +1

      Honestly it'd be something as simple as the Liberator or any submachine gun. All you need is a high rate of fire and even low-moderate damage cause Illuminate shields are meant to absorb lots of burst damage. Lots of small projectiles cut right through them

  • @C0B2A5_V3N0M
    @C0B2A5_V3N0M 13 часов назад +2

    Your content is great! Honestly on par with most big Helldivers RUclipsrs, I would recommend ranking inside each category (so if the liberator was better than the diligence then you’d put it on the left of the diligence)
    Edit: mb, I hadn’t watched the rest of the video lmao, still, great videos

    • @grandmofftogan
      @grandmofftogan  12 часов назад +1

      Thanks! I honestly just didn't want to complicate the ranking and make it too long, but sometimes I'll put a weapon at the top or bottom of a tier.

  • @genericbackgroundcharacter8431
    @genericbackgroundcharacter8431 2 часа назад

    the constitution is a s teir weapon it the only primary weapon that can kill tank and the robot atat and can strip the bug charger leg armor (grand it it hard as shit but possible)

  • @simoneichler7320
    @simoneichler7320 Час назад

    Can you still get the Sta 52?

    • @grandmofftogan
      @grandmofftogan  Час назад

      It's not in the Superstore right now, but it's bound to come back eventually

  • @Alsborg
    @Alsborg Час назад

    8:52 My f**** eyes!! How do you use a SMG like that?? Try to use short burst or put on Burst Mode. And pleaae dont use on medium enemies, the Damage Fall-on is huge on SMGs

  • @nick4754
    @nick4754 8 часов назад

    Your definitely sleeping on the Reprimand although I can see why, don't think smg when using it think Giga adjudicator since stat wise that's basically what it is.
    Also fire in short controlled bursts with good trigger discipline the Reprimand can become as accurate as any other medium pin assault rifles

  • @AzureIV
    @AzureIV 9 часов назад

    The Exploding Crossbow is by far the strongest Primary in the game and everyone knows it.

    • @herbivorethecarnivore8447
      @herbivorethecarnivore8447 5 часов назад

      "everyone"
      bro just because you have an opinion doesn't mean everyone instantly agrees with you