Can you combine Strongman & Bodybuilding?
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- Опубликовано: 21 май 2024
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IDK what it is but ppl imitating rip always gets me
FAHVES
What is the rip split ?
Big fan of ppl, personally
@@petermozuraitis5219ppl in the lower case acronym is the word people and I have no idea what rip is but I'm guessing they're talking about Mark Rippetoe, although that wouldn't make any sense at all so let's see if he ever replies to his comments😂
@@drip369 Yea he's talkin about rip
@@barryallen767 interesting. I'm not getting Mark Rippetoe vibes but maybe that guy was hahaha
Love the old Ahola footage
He is a real known asshole here in hämeenlinna where hhe lives.like a REAL asshole. Bullies smaller guys etc...
I always feel like he is underrated aye
What about Strongbody and Manbuilding?
Nah... It won't work
The best you can do is Strongbuilding & Bodyman.
Or buildingbody and manstrong
Or strongman and bodybuilding... oh wait
I do stronglifting and weightbuilding
This is the plot of Rocky Horror Picture Show
"Can I do strongman in place of traditional body-"
"YOU CAN DO WHATEVER THE FUCKKK YOU WANNA DO!"
Ah, I remember the good ol days when Yo Elliott! was one of the better sources of training information. He gave me the squat cue that helped me perform them with good depth.
The Ripp “Whhhy?!”!
Hwyyy?
My reasons for incorporating sandbags into my training :
I have a 9 month old son, I can't count on having 1-2 hours to work out all the time. Sometimes I have to do as much as I can in 30 minutes. I was running NH's beginner program and seeing good progress but I got a hernia because I had become unaccustomed to awkward lifts. After recovering from the hernia I wanted to try something new that would be challenging, fun and explosive that I could train as a skill or work into a circuit.
We are going over seas for a month in which I won't have constant access to a gym so I want to build work capacity for calisthenics circuits and sprinting that I can do anywhere.
My week is :
Day 1. Hill Sprints in the am
Heavy upper body in the pm
Main lifts are OHP, Rows and dips
Day 2. Sandbag floor to shoulder in the am
Light lower body in the pm
This is 1 leg rdl's, split squats, banded heels up squats and cossack squats.
Day 3 rest, pump stuff.
Day 4 Hill Sprints in am
Upper body light/calisthenics
Pull ups, ring push ups etc.
Day 5 sandbag clean, sandbag carry in the am
Heavy lower day, RDL's, reverse lunge.
Every day has some ab work, kettlebell swings and hypertrophy work if time allows.
I doubt the hernia was lifted related they’re mostly genetic
You much more concisely, and palatably, encapsulated NH's unnecessarily edgy "powerbuilding is an abomination" video.
I applaud you for presenting this free of unnecessary sophistry and spiciness. I'm sure this won't get the same clicks or attention -- but I appreciate the hell out of it.
Thank you.
Tbh that wasn't that edgy aside from the title. Just a reminder to stick to your lane and be careful to do what is best for you.
@@Lolek080195most people would prefer to be a mixture of strong and jacked
Some true gems in here. Thx coach
was watching one of your videos minutes before you uploaded this 😂😂😂 thank you for the vid champ
Interesting topic! Enjoyed this.
Very insightful, Alan. Thank you for the video.
I like to train to build a good physique, but doing some strongman stuff is super fun and brings back the joy to an otherwise repetitive bodybuilding workout. I know it's not ideal, I just enjoy it more.
Problem is, finding gyms where you can do some crazy strongman exercises can be pretty difficult depending on where you live
Great video. I thought it was going to be on concurrent training but appreciated the focus on how strongman movements can be used for muscle growth.
Only missing piece was how I can become the next Marius 😂
Ahola is one of my favorites. I always like seeing his training. Thanks Oh ya, your info is solid too ;)
You reaching into your personal experience and journey to drive the content you create is what keeps your account fresh and relevant. I've been a long time subscriber Alan, and I'm glad I've stuck around. Thanks a lot!
nice video as always much love from isreal
Strongman movements are fun to do.
Great video Alan. I thought about doing the same program NH gave you.
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Strongbuilding?
Really enjoying the clips of my fellow countryman Svend Karlsen... VIKING POWER!
Viking Power 🇮🇸🇫🇮🇸🇪🇳🇴💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
My gut feeling is that heavy farmers carries, heavy sandbag carries, etc..trigger overall muscle growth but not targeted like most bodybuilders are wanting. Try finishing your body building workout with some heavy carries and see what happens.
hey alan, i love the clips of the relatively smaller bodybuilder channels and strongmen, but iudm could u add the channel name tags beside the clips to grow the traffic, and allow more people to learn and discover the methods and the people of the channels.
Aside from Elliott Hulse, all the clips in this video feature a world's strongest man winner (Magnus ver magnusson, Jouko Ahola, Magnus Samuelsson and Svend Karlsen)
There was Basement Bodybuilding. He has a pretty small but educational channel.
7:05 There he is!
Even in isometric training can build muscle because it can help you recruit many many more muscle fibers and then you can overload those fibers with the concentric and eccentric portion
Hey Alan, I've found your videos on simultaneously training for different goals such as running and lifting or lifting and military training to be very helpful. In the future can you do a video on using lifting to improve sprint speed? I know it's not your current specialty but in one of your videos you mentioned you used to be a sprinter and I'd love to hear your thoughts on how to become faster.
Alan, train station manage: Train on time!!! Thank you Alan, there was no delay on tracks, and I can take my train now.
Cellar dweller… if I ever need a new username I may steal that
Nice cameo at 7:04, how much did Alan pay you?
If Alan is talking about competitive bodybuilding, he missed the biggest reason for doing strongman movements, which would be thickening of the waist and obliques, even if it’s muscle. Also, the overall body soreness can make it difficult to concentrate on the necessary bodybuilding isolation work. Toshiki mentioned this while in his current bodybuilding phase and regrets his weightlifting, despite being world class. A combo is great for overall strength, hypertrophy, health and fitness though.
A natural lifter with aspirations of bodybuilding isnt going to end up with massive core because they started logging pressing. People have said this about deadlifting for decades but it’s also untrue there. Look at a guy like David Laid who is well into the 600s for deadlift and has a tiny waist. Hell, look at Alan. His waist is still small after a couple decades of high level strongman training. It comes down to genetics mostly and then also drug usage with drugs like HGH and insulin affecting the abdomen and viscera size.
If anything, the focus on strongman will develop the yoke and hide a larger waist by expanding the traps and shoulders.
@@ExternusArmy You're right, natural lifters like David Laid, Jeff Cavaliere and Mike O'Hearn all have thin waists even though they're strong!
@@paavoilves5416 I didn’t say David Laid was natural. My point was that his waist is trim because he just has a genetically small waist despite the PEDs.
@@ExternusArmy I agree, I don't think training your core will make your torso blocky or big, at least like those HGH guts.
I'm a natural Strongman Athlete and definitely look bigger than many roiders without being fat. You can definitely have 50cm arms and 80cm thighs with strongman training at 100-120kg bw
This is the way, stay natty and outperform the cheaters
I just started strongman this year and have 6 competitions. I've decided to against the conventional wisdom and focus a ton on event training, with the idea that since it is skill work I need to learn these movements very deeply. Then once I start hitting competitions where I've already done all the events in previous comps, relearning it will be like riding a bike as an adult. It's worked quite well so far as each competition I've placed higher than the last one.
Combining strongman and bodybuilding makes more sense than combining strongman and powerlifting because you want to strengthen your whole body, not just with the three main lifts anyway (which is arbitrary/subjective as well).
Dude, Jouko Ahola was my guy when I was like when I was a young teen.
No mariusz pudzianowski? Widely accepted as the most muscular and athletic strongman ever? 🤔
Hey man,
What knee’s sleeves are you currently rocking? I bought the Stoic brand that you recommended a couple years ago. They held up but looking for something tougher. Thanks.
Are you going to do another video on your updated program?
Honestly it would be better to press along as well as a viking press compared to the traditional barbell overhead press for bodybuilding. Better range of motion, better not so activation, and healthier shoulder position.
You not putting Pudzianowski on the title screen is a criminal offence 😅
Always consider the goal, and always consider the tool to achieve that goal.
You can train your calves with a squat, which is like opening a protein bar with a chainsaw. You’re gonna get it open, but there may have been a more efficient way to do it…
Perfect analogy lmao
Ironically, never seen someone get huge calves from training calves. Everyone I've seen with huge calves (including me) are either asian/ born with them, are ex-fatty or took anabolics which is where majority of the growth happened😂
@@samj8932I can attest. I've gotten bigger, more defined calves from doing heavy squats and deadlifts, than I ever did from doing any isolated calf exercises.
I saw way more improvements in both size and definition in my calves when I did heavy squats and deadlifts than I ever did with directly training calves.
Strongbuilding is that called?
Combines strongman and bodybuilding, and doesn't even have Jon Pal in the thumb. Infinite shame.
I honestly don’t think it matters what you do, all have muscle building potential
Could someone please tell me how this "prawler" in 4:20min with wheels is called like.
We dont even know that soreness or mechanical damage ABSOLUTELY initiate hypertrophy, let alone are necessary. I do a shit ton of heavy eccentrics. They work great. But there is new research and lots of compelling evidence that isokinetic movement where the lifting phase is set to a specific speed and the resistance is maximal throughout the ROM is superior to even eccentric emphasized training. DONT ELIMINATE CONCENTRICS
Ask dan john
But Milo of Croton …..just Carries😉
Alan, my college girlfriend of 3 years cheated on. I am devastated and it's been a few weeks..this was my first week back in the gym. I'm hoping to recover soon
you got this bro, I feel your pain, use it to become better
Strongman is powerlifting weights, done for bodybuilding rep ranges.
Strongbuilding
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I don’t see why you can’t do strongman focused movements primarily, then do one or two accessories exercises (hamstring curls, rear delt flies/ W raises, arm curl or extensions) in the 15+ rep range, resulting in hyper trophy. There’s enough strongman events that take 1-2 minutes to complete so hypertrophy training can actually aid those events
You can do anything. You can train to be a chess playing, strongman, golfing, dart throwing novelist - only hitting the gym, going to the golf course, etc. a single time per year. And to do that training, you can spend most of your day sitting on the couch trying to think about the best way to train across all of those things. And even though that's ridiculous, you might succeed according to the criteria that you set for yourself in your own mind. Your goals are your goals.
What you can do is a different question from what you want to accomplish. Likewise, what the most effective way to accomplish something is, is different from what you choose to do to accomplish that same goal.
This is why a coach or personal trainer is generally going to ask your what your goal is, as the very first question they ask. If your goal is to become an IFBB pro then you're going to get a different set of recommendations than if you want to live a long and healthy life. Both will involve diet and fitness choices but the details will be different.
You can do anything you want, up to the point where you actually need to do better at it than other people in some standardized setting. At that point, unless it's a very new sport, you're going to be competing against people that have focused narrowly on that one sport and the training that optimizes for success in that sport. If you choose not to specialize as well, your only chance for success are to be happy with PRs or hope that you're just so genetically gifted for that sport relative to everyone else that you'll win regardless.
It shall be called Strongbuilding.
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Ah,you mean BodyMan training.
Your arms look bigger.
Umm, no, that’s wrong. Your lungs will fail first on a strapped-RDL to failure.
Hhwwhy
Ffs...🙄.. Nobody could really fulfil their true maximum potential in strongman by NOT including some hypertrophy work,only your typical limp noodle millennial would ask such a weak sauce question 🤣
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