I’ve already had my pot of black coffee and mowed the lawn. I’ve laced my new balances and clipped in my phone. Now it’s time to watch the RUclips on my Gateway computer and see if I can drive this to the golf course
@@gikigill788 the other pair got some grass stains, but thankfully I have more. I also had to make sure I tucked in my corvette shirt because I’m not a slob
Every time I start watching one of these videos, I think.. "there's no way this one could be better than the last one". And then it is. Please don't ever stop making videos. Even if Mark is out on the street and Jack is turning tricks to pay for his low T treatments, please keep it coming with these videos.
Couldn't say it better. This channel is what I and the automotive internet need. Detail, nuance, opinion and a bit of subtle trash talk. I love the channel for what it has become the last few years.
I have it on very good authority that one of those things has already been happening for a while now. I won't say which one, you can figure it out for yourself.
Clearly WhistlinDiesel is their competitor. They channels are (Mark's voice) LITERALLY the same! I find myself having to choose between one or the the other when I'm trying to decide which reliable tank to buy.
@@shakethedrummer2351 I mean he's right. When im looking at differing opinions on reviews, I make sure to check out whistlindiesel for a informed, reasonable second opionion on my tank purchase.
I have no idea why people complain about you guys. Aside from hands down one of the best production quality car channels ever, the dry sense of humor is fucking hilarious. I dunno, feel like you guys just keep outdoing yourselves with every new video. Love it!
I always found them both just annoying. Not sure why. Probably because they talk and whine to much. They will say the same thing over and over just in different sentences.
@adamyahya4638 agree I find them both hilarious. There’s a scene with Jack drifting in some V8, can’t remember what, where mark goes: “Oh, it’s the Jack Singapore Jungle Gym Machine” Fucking hilarious
Thanks for including the teams input. Really gives the vibes that a passionate, skunkworks style team worked on this car. Shows that this car got a lot of love during development
Love how you included the control engineer. As a pwt calibration engineer I cannot even imagine how difficult it was not only to develop the softwares and codes for the drivability but to calibrate it and have performance... Of course it took years and years and countless hours driving it
Wow, I’m actually impressed! When I first heard talks about an E-Ray, I immediately thought it was going to be garbage. After watching this entire video, my mind has changed. This will be a really good daily!
This is the only Corvette C8, let alone electric performance car that entices me. The Corvette E-Ray team kept the fun of a V-8 and added the benefits of the electric motor. It's a win win.
First off, as an engineer I appreciate the type of depth you guys get into. The E-ray has been a car I'm rather interested in, I have been looking at the nsx, but the lack of tunablity and the v6 are my only draw backs (yes I've driven them). This c8 being a v8 is so appealing.
I think it’s great and it’ll also help with anyone who wants a Z06 because you’ll have cross sale but man if you want a daily driver sports car the E ray is fucking hard to beat they nailed it
My personal problem specifically with the NSX is how I feel Honda didn't spend the time to make the car significantly unique. I understand their approach was to make the car extremely approachable and daily driveable, but I've spent time in the NSX and it doesn't give me the "fizz" as Clarkson would say like the original NSX or S2000. I'll absolutely agree that the visibility and driving position is fantastic, but beyond that I have very little interest at it's price point. The Z06 E-Ray (obviously newer) is more entertaining on a drivability standpoint, but also better tuned to give you the fun with approachability. Plus, it helps that cockpit is more bespoke than the NSX.
@RobertLe_Sama oh the interior even on the type s is far below where it should be. But having driven them, they are incredible to drive and are the daily "supercar". It was May that says "fizz: 😜
Absolutely...hats off to all the Engineers, Designers, and yes, GM for allowing the public to have a kick ass machine. Props to Savage Geese, nice work gentlemen.
The purpose of the tunnel in the middle of the car was not for electrification it was to keep it always a removable hardtop and keep the structure incredibly rigid. It turned out that during development it was a very convenient place to put the battery and other electrical accessories needed
This is exactly how the electric motors need to be implemented into the automotive industry. Perfect street car, that 0 to 60 destroy anyone at a redlight speed is a massive sales point. Great video by the Canadian top gear team, keep up the good work!
The detail and care in these videos is amazing. Having like a rock and little red corvette playing in the car on the B roll is something I’m surprised I even noticed and they don’t even have to do but do anyways
This has turned into some defacto high level of automotive journalism TV channel - without the TV part (without stupid ads (well..) rushed interviews and uninterested hosts). Amazing to see how the savage geese humanizes (a goose humanizing... woow) the people behind these (and many other) cars - if previously Ford or GM was just a giant corporation with no face except for the sign on the office block - now we get the opportunity to see people, their motives and explanations behind the cars that we love... or hate (or neither in case of the new Toyota BEV piece of.. something or other). Thanks to savage geese for the videos - keep up the work - from Latvia.
Mark makes such a good point, Savage gets people from all jobs from these manufacturers that we usually don't get to hear from and that is so important the audience.
I love the e-ray for its sound. Having both a great engine and an electric motor mixing their sounds reminds me of listening to a symphony with different instruments. I’ve yet to drive or hear it in person
True. And yet - somehow - the electric motor sound, which they already stated as kicking in around 90mph (until the motor disengages at around 150mph), seemed to be whining at the 50-65 mph or so that they were travelling...
This channel has brought me from not caring about the Corvette at all to it being one of my favorite vehicles with the introduction of the E-Ray. Amazing video
Great Stuff Guys !!!!!!!!!!!! I loved how you overlayed a fake MPH screen footage over the real one during the test run. Your editing guy needs to work on that a bit more - LOL
I do appreciate it. It’s the reason why I watch this channel. It’s always been the reason why I watched this channel. The breakdown of the engineering even though I’m not an engineer even though I’m not going to go anywhere near that the more I understand how our car works and why it works the way it works, the better off I am. It’s one of the reasons why I watch Camissa. Horsepower and torque and the numbers, eh, you can you get that from anywhere. I swear to God AI hasn’t helped voice to text. The editing after the speak is still fairly heavy.
Thanks to both the engineers and savagegeese for making this content possible. You guys seem to have the right approach with incorporating the people who are behind the scenes and never get the time of day to talk about what they did during the cars process. I think its beneficial to the consumers who are interested in any make/model, to hear input from people working on the car directly. Not just the people who market it, and tell you all the things you WANT to hear. This was great!
Our goal in these sorts of projects is to connect the viewers with the engineers. I think these people have a tremendous wealth of knowledge and getting to absorb just a touch of that is a great experience.
For what it's worth, like many I got 4 simultaneous notifications and this was my first stop. I knew the nerd out would be strong and I was right. This is the C8 I've been most excited for. It's the 911 Turbo equivalent to me. Shame the car really flatlines over 65 mph.
As someone who doesn’t pay much attention to what’s coming out anymore, this is a complete surprise. Very interesting development like the hybrid hypercars
If I had the money, this video sold me on the E-Ray. Thing is awesome. As battery tech and other tech improves, this formula can hopefully continue to improve even further and drop weight... as long as they don't lose the v8, it's a winning formula.
Your description of the launch sounds exactly how my GT-R felt. It was something that I felt made the launches feel less visceral. Having been in a cars with lots of RWD torque monsters, the take off felt less “pinned to your seat” with AWD. Even at full bolt on performance, the effect never changed, just the launch/ quarter mile times.
Totally. Not to mention that the electric motor sound, which had already been mentioned as kicking in around 90mph (until the motor disengages at around 150mph), seemed to be whining at the 50-65 mph or so that they were travelling. 🏎 You guys... 😁
Probably the coolest sounding hybrid *ever,* a proper performance-oriented V8 and electric motor working in perfect concert without one smothering or nerfing the other. I love this gen's Z06 but this is easily my favorite Vette in the lineup right now, the big question mark though is reliability with all that extra complexity in the mix.
Definitely cool to hear from the ones who actually helped design the car. And the passion they have is 100% evident ! Hats off the all those creating this 1st generation ERay. Congrats!!
I'm just happy during your acceleration test you didn't go over 65 miles an hour. I would say you guys deserve a kudos for responsible driving and leading by example😊
I think that incorporating a ice car with a hybrid drivetrain is the best combo no need for a full ev at this point at all this c8 here gives you everything an enthusiastic car person would ever need!! And also the price is outstanding!! 107 msrp loaded up nicely for 125k that’s just crazy!! 655hp and awd just for for example the Acura nsx was 220 with mark ups grant it this c8 eray will probably be 15k mark up and if ordered one dealers are not marking these up at all!!
This is probably the best street Corvette ever...it perfectly balances the street character the C8 has while giving you the speed performance of the ZO6 with likely lower maintenance costs. The performance is just insane...0-60 in 2.2 seconds, 10's at almost 130 mph in the 1/4 mile, what appears to be instant torque and response, and I love how they say the electric motor smooths out the dual clutch trans and makes it all instant. Love the scenery guys, looks like the Huntley/Woodstock/Gilberts area. I'm in Algonquin and I have gotten out to these back roads and it's great scenery...and fun!
In terms of a comprehensive review this was next level 👍🏽 Corvette engineers should take a bow for developing a world-class sports car with the C8 in all its iterations and doing America proud.
Not to take away from this amazing video, but I didn't know EddieX was still this active even after all the Vehicle Virgins drama. Thanks for another great piece of content
So many people kind of wrote this off as an oddball lesser Vette because of the Z07/Z06 (which is clearly not chopped liver!). But this car is THE one to buy and live with. And the one for buyers who don't need to shout how cool they are. The E-Ray is an international technical tour-de-force, AND a real, usable supercar. Just brilliant.
I’m sorry, these guys are some of the best out there. The fact that we hear from the engineers with so much detail. I learn so much from these videos. I am able to geek out on all the tech explanation, but your passion for these vehicles still comes through. Thank you!
Love that it exists! take this recipe and move it across the lineup GM. Hybridize the great ICE engines they have! Im staying on the Z06 allocation list though!
Gentlemen, The quality and craftsmanship of your videos just continues to surpass your previous excellent efforts. I worry at some point you'll set such a high standard it will be impossible to maintain it video after video, and we spoiled viewers will complain that you released a mere 9.84/10 production instead of a 9.93/10. Until that day happens, my highest compliments on continuing to push the limits of your art.
16:11 Yes! Thank you for going straight to the sources of truth that typically live behind the curtain. I can attest Marketing departments are full of BS. Often not even checking with the Engineers and instead posting incorrect specs to the public. It's very frustrating.
I knew this was coming since what this car is attempting to do is exceptionally relevant in this segment, but I still appreciate Jack's GM Microchip implant incessantly motivating Mark to humor the constant bombardment of Corvettespeak.
Never been a big Chevy fan, but this is something I would definitely consider. I'm so tired of the "threat" of vehicle electrification being shoved down our throats. I feel like this could bridge the gap. Kudos to @savagegeese for bringing this review, and kudos as well to the R&D and engineering team at Chevy. I hope to see other manufacturers follow suit.
When new ICE vehicles are universally banned, you can be sure that governments will manipulate the supply/cost of fuel to 'encourage' drivers of used ICE vehicles to move to EV..
There's no "threat", the hand of the market and consumer decisions change what is produced. The best selling car in the world is electric and the quickest car in the world, also an EV.
Thank for another amazing detailed review of a real departure for Corvette. No one else has done this! Thank you and All who contributed to the production! Well done.
To Jack: Yo, listen up here's a story About a -little- HUGE guy That lives in a blue world And all day and all night And everything he sees is just blue Like him inside and outside Blue his house With a blue little window And a blue *corvette* And everything is blue for him And himself and everybody around Cause he ain't got nobody to listen to I'm blue Da ba dee da ba di Da ba dee da ba di Da ba dee da ba di Da ba dee da ba di Da ba dee da ba di Da ba dee da ba di Da ba dee da ba di I'm blue Da ba dee da ba di Da ba dee da ba di Da ba dee da ba di Da ba dee da ba di Da ba dee da ba di Da ba dee da ba di Da ba dee da ba di I have a blue house With a blue window Blue is the colour of all that I wear Blue are the streets And all the trees are too I have a girlfriend and she is so blue Blue are the people here That walk around Blue like my *corvette* its in and outside Blue are the words I say And what I think Blue are the feelings That live inside me
So glad you highlighted the importance of the engineers behind the scenes of these amazing vehicles. Too often it’s some marketing executive that is the face of these rollouts. Thanks for all your hard work on these videos. Your dedication is apparent.
It's so cool to see and hear the GM nerds discuss the development of systems they've dedicated portions of their lives on. This should be all the marketing GM needs. If you've got truly passionate, motivated engineers working on the platform that have pride in what they deliver, then the product is going to be amazing.
I never thought about it before, but it would be awesome to have this as a year round sports car that a Canadian could actually use. That used to be reserved for AWD 911's and if you consider them sports cars (I don't), WRX's and Evo's
I appreciate all of the engineering insight that this channel gets into. It does not bore me to death. Question though: how is the internal combustion engine started? Is it an old-fashioned "chug-chug-chug" starter, or is there a dedicated motor to spin it up to idle speed instantly?
Hmmm whats the difference in practice? I dont see any. A starter is just a "dedicated" electric motor after all. I guess you might be asking if its more powerful, perhaps with other gearing than a normal starter? I would guess it isnt.
@@GoldenCroc 12V vs. HV (200+ volts). If you search "KERS Kels" you'll find a starterless, clutchless 350Z race car with an electric assist system which also starts the engine from a dig.
Remarkable how you accelerated at full throttle through the gears and never exceeded the speed limit! Impressive. I love the deep dive on the tech and the screen time given to the engineers. I don't consider a new car review complete without that anymore. Always loved the Csaba Csere C&D engineering takes, same with Kevin Cameron with Cycle World. I want to geek out on this stuff. Thank you for providing that. I love the way they made the e-boost a sensory experience. Celebrate the tech instead of trying to hide it. Brilliant. Also easily the best looking C8 in my eyes. Great video, thank you.
Totally. Loved the way the speedo 'wobbled' while the rest of the driver's display was rock-solid! Shame the electric motor sound, which had already been mentioned as kicking in around 90mph (until the motor disengages at around 150mph), seemed to be whining at the 50mph or so that they were travelling...
I like the concept a lot. I feel like chevrolet has something special here with the platform, and I like the no compromises hybrid approach. I could also imagine this kind of layout could be awesome for homologation purposes since there are now a variety of weights, power levels, and drive layouts for any kind of racing, even the neo-LM hybrid, or even fully electric racing. With that said, I could see the absolutely staggering potential (pun intended i suppose) of using this concept for a gran sport E, or ZR-E, or even a Z07E pack type of machine. Supercharged V8 in the back, bias the drive with regen up front, and let thy battery be thy ballast. I would be remissed if i did not see the potential of an e-ray type layout with a lighter powertrain in the rear for WEC duty. There is a 4cyl that looks to have a lot of potential in the silverado that is turbocharged, and also the V6 from the camaros or even the cadillacs. They have only begun to scratch the surface with the ceiling in this car working with the chassis and powertrain. I cant wait to see where they go with these next.
I'm very surprised by Marks take and how much he truly enjoys the car and the engineering behind it.. wonder if they ever will use this tech in a SUV variant of some sort, I know I know, SUVs are over played and aren't anything like sports cars but when you have kids, they're a great all purpose machine
Kids is a good reason to not have an suv - rollovers are hard to survive. Also, you want to be teaching your kids good ethics, and buying a battering ram that kills others disproportionality is morally sketchy. Just buy a station wagon like a normal person…
These two geniuses, never cease to amaze audiences. Superb video editing, through visuals that provide informative data in a conceptual manner to deliver an amazing visual and surround like experience. My ine question is do you guys think GM, took a look at what the NSX is like under the hood. Seems like they have been sitting on the works for a sports car that would have electrification as part of the dna of the engine. I now have to wonder can this E-ray be better than a NSX? Maybe we can stay tuned for a video that puts bith cars together in the track and delivers the answer we are all waiting to hear…🎉😂 Truly awesome video, i always look forward to the next video eagerly.
Man, the E-Ray is a way cooler idea than I was aware of. This whole time I’ve been under the impression that it was fully electric, granted I didn’t do a ton of research, I just saw the headlines saying “E-Ray” and assumed it was all electric. A hybrid mid-engine V8 with a front mounted hybrid motor is awesome, if it was me, I’m not sure I would go AWD, but I’m sure it absolutely makes this thing even faster, maybe a little bit of extra under steer on the ragged edge, but even the Z06 has a touch of that in regular RWD-guise. I think they purposely engineered a little bit of understeer to make it slightly “safer” for the folks coming from previous Corvettes who have very little mid-engine experience. One thing I think could make this *way* more interesting is if they used the basic version of the high revving V8 from the Z06, rather than the “truck V8” from the base C8. That 8300 rpm engine paired with a rear-biased AWD and the hybrid motor would be absolutely awesome. It would be a monster. I kind of wouldn’t be surprised if they are actually planning to do that at some point in the future. I think it’s a huge missed opportunity if they don’t do an E-Ray “Z06”-type of car. Seems like it would be a very natural evolution. It wouldn’t even need to be all that much faster or torquey at all, just higher revving. 2.2 to 60 will never need to be topped as far as acceleration, I just think the higher revving engine would add a much more unique character to the actual driving experience.
Chevy hit it out of the park with the E-Ray! A total Dr. Jeckle and Mr. Hyde car. I typically hate EV's but the way they incorporated it here is perfect. Well done! Great review, guys!
No wonder mark hates corvette. I see this Nissan hat. How much are they paying you? SHILL
Nismo gave me a body kit for my Altima for free, so I wear the hat.
@@savagegeesemust have been a happy import boy on that day
@@savagegeeseLUCKY! Fastest car ever made
@@savagegeese Nothing says BAE like a free body kit!
Mark also hates blue, he is not "da ba dee, da ba di" like Jack
I’ve already had my pot of black coffee and mowed the lawn. I’ve laced my new balances and clipped in my phone. Now it’s time to watch the RUclips on my Gateway computer and see if I can drive this to the golf course
Are you wearing the regulation shorts?
My lawn is better kept than yours peasant
Gobbles
False. You should be clutching your pearls and burning those same New Balances in protest of an electrified, mid-engined Corvette.
@@gikigill788 the other pair got some grass stains, but thankfully I have more. I also had to make sure I tucked in my corvette shirt because I’m not a slob
I appreciate that Mark had the restraint at 23:40 to keep his speed capped at precisely 65 mph
It's a testament to the Corvette's engineering that it can keep revving up while maintaining a constant and road-legal speed.
@@JeffManseau They are even better than that. A couple minutes after the constant speed Mark floors it and the car actually loses speed. Incredible.
New vette confirmed super slow.
@@JeffManseau This is why CVT's are so great. :)
Seems awful slow for a car than can do a 10 second quarter mile! 😀
This is cooler than GM’s internal marketing videos of the E-Ray.
Gm has a bad history of marketing, im glad they interview the people who worked on it.
@@BassLegendYT They lie. I worked at Chevy Engineering.
@lukewalker1051 yeah and I work for the CIA
perhaps you should keep that on the DL@@svgPhoenix
@@lukewalker1051you lie. I worked at government motors
The speedo hovering between 58 and 65 during full acceleration killed me. 23:27
lol saw that too. Effin hilarious.
Lol also gave themselves away by stating that the synth sound goes up at 90/100
@@jissanhuq3792They clearly stated that those speeds were only reached on track or in Mexico. 😉
wtf
i thought it was the power ratio front/back
Every time I start watching one of these videos, I think.. "there's no way this one could be better than the last one". And then it is. Please don't ever stop making videos. Even if Mark is out on the street and Jack is turning tricks to pay for his low T treatments, please keep it coming with these videos.
It’s insane the quality and all the little gems
Especially then!
Couldn't say it better. This channel is what I and the automotive internet need. Detail, nuance, opinion and a bit of subtle trash talk. I love the channel for what it has become the last few years.
I have it on very good authority that one of those things has already been happening for a while now. I won't say which one, you can figure it out for yourself.
Send money.
I love hearing from the engineers who developed these vehicles. Thank you for your excellent work doing these videos!
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Love the input from the engineers. You guys have a corner on the automotive RUclipsers. We love nerding out with the tech details. Please don't stop.
I dont think you guys have a competitor, the way you do it is so pure and genuine. Keep it up
Clearly WhistlinDiesel is their competitor.
They channels are (Mark's voice) LITERALLY the same!
I find myself having to choose between one or the the other when I'm trying to decide which reliable tank to buy.
@qx4n9e1xp thats interesting. I looked up whistlin diesel. None of their videos look remotely like Savage Geese.
Like comparing apples to steak....
@@shakethedrummer2351 I mean he's right. When im looking at differing opinions on reviews, I make sure to check out whistlindiesel for a informed, reasonable second opionion on my tank purchase.
Throttle House maybe, but these guys go way more in depth where as those guys are more fun and quirky. Both great in their own ways!
I have no idea why people complain about you guys. Aside from hands down one of the best production quality car channels ever, the dry sense of humor is fucking hilarious. I dunno, feel like you guys just keep outdoing yourselves with every new video. Love it!
It's well done, but SavageGeese is infomercials.
I always found them both just annoying. Not sure why. Probably because they talk and whine to much. They will say the same thing over and over just in different sentences.
@adamyahya4638 agree I find them both hilarious.
There’s a scene with Jack drifting in some V8, can’t remember what, where mark goes:
“Oh, it’s the Jack Singapore Jungle Gym Machine”
Fucking hilarious
Some people don't get dry humor, so when you do dry humor with them, you just sound weird and annoying. SG has their audience though, and we love it.
@@Doug-mc3ddthe. don't watch it
The “Like a Rock” @23:40 brought back classic chevy vibes. Would like to see this type of hybrid drive train catch on, breath new life into V8s.
Thanks for including the teams input. Really gives the vibes that a passionate, skunkworks style team worked on this car. Shows that this car got a lot of love during development
Love how you included the control engineer. As a pwt calibration engineer I cannot even imagine how difficult it was not only to develop the softwares and codes for the drivability but to calibrate it and have performance... Of course it took years and years and countless hours driving it
Wow, I’m actually impressed! When I first heard talks about an E-Ray, I immediately thought it was going to be garbage. After watching this entire video, my mind has changed. This will be a really good daily!
0 to 60MPH in 2.2 seconds, Insane! Best value Sportscar/Supercar on the planet, and I'm a big Porsche fan. 😲
I think they got to 100 in 4-5
They never got there after hitting a speed limiter set at 62 mph on the B road
It will be interesting to see what Porsche does with the next 992.2 911, which is rumored to be available as a hybrid for certain trims
@@nafnaf0hopefully a 992 GT2RS
@@jissanhuq37920-100mph is 5.8 seconds.
This is the only Corvette C8, let alone electric performance car that entices me. The Corvette E-Ray team kept the fun of a V-8 and added the benefits of the electric motor. It's a win win.
First off, as an engineer I appreciate the type of depth you guys get into. The E-ray has been a car I'm rather interested in, I have been looking at the nsx, but the lack of tunablity and the v6 are my only draw backs (yes I've driven them). This c8 being a v8 is so appealing.
I think it’s great and it’ll also help with anyone who wants a Z06 because you’ll have cross sale but man if you want a daily driver sports car the E ray is fucking hard to beat they nailed it
@GoGoggansGo totally agree, besides there's other cars that are so much better track cars, so that would be a great weekend/daily car I agree.
My personal problem specifically with the NSX is how I feel Honda didn't spend the time to make the car significantly unique. I understand their approach was to make the car extremely approachable and daily driveable, but I've spent time in the NSX and it doesn't give me the "fizz" as Clarkson would say like the original NSX or S2000. I'll absolutely agree that the visibility and driving position is fantastic, but beyond that I have very little interest at it's price point.
The Z06 E-Ray (obviously newer) is more entertaining on a drivability standpoint, but also better tuned to give you the fun with approachability. Plus, it helps that cockpit is more bespoke than the NSX.
@RobertLe_Sama oh the interior even on the type s is far below where it should be. But having driven them, they are incredible to drive and are the daily "supercar". It was May that says "fizz: 😜
And cheaper than a nsx……
Absolutely...hats off to all the Engineers, Designers, and yes, GM for allowing the public to have a kick ass machine. Props to Savage Geese, nice work gentlemen.
Now we understand the purpose of the center console shape and size: battery location. Great job to GM and to you guys for this detailed pres👍
The purpose of the tunnel in the middle of the car was not for electrification it was to keep it always a removable hardtop and keep the structure incredibly rigid. It turned out that during development it was a very convenient place to put the battery and other electrical accessories needed
This is exactly how the electric motors need to be implemented into the automotive industry. Perfect street car, that 0 to 60 destroy anyone at a redlight speed is a massive sales point. Great video by the Canadian top gear team, keep up the good work!
If you want to drive a toaster who's only upside is the speed, sure.
Will take on most things other than full evs but it’s truly incredible what they’ve done with so little and the price they are coming in at
Sadly, non-EVs will soon be banned from being sold. Doesn't GM understand this?
@@davepaturno4290Not until 2035 I think
The only thing more impressive than what GM have managed with the E-Ray is the quality of this video! Killed it again, Savagegeese!
The detail and care in these videos is amazing. Having like a rock and little red corvette playing in the car on the B roll is something I’m surprised I even noticed and they don’t even have to do but do anyways
Absolutely great, consistent production! And, you give honest, genuine reviews and call it like it is, good or bad.
The electric motor even sounds awesome. Amazing car, and now I feel even more at home coming off my golf cart
Almost a Dodge Hellcat supercharger vib with that wine...when you hear it you know the fun is on!
it is fake sounds played through the cabins speakers lol
The combo of V8 roar and electric whine is actually sick.
It’s like a supercharger.
New Challenger hellcat replacement?
This has turned into some defacto high level of automotive journalism TV channel - without the TV part (without stupid ads (well..) rushed interviews and uninterested hosts). Amazing to see how the savage geese humanizes (a goose humanizing... woow) the people behind these (and many other) cars - if previously Ford or GM was just a giant corporation with no face except for the sign on the office block - now we get the opportunity to see people, their motives and explanations behind the cars that we love... or hate (or neither in case of the new Toyota BEV piece of.. something or other). Thanks to savage geese for the videos - keep up the work - from Latvia.
Mark makes such a good point, Savage gets people from all jobs from these manufacturers that we usually don't get to hear from and that is so important the audience.
I love the e-ray for its sound. Having both a great engine and an electric motor mixing their sounds reminds me of listening to a symphony with different instruments. I’ve yet to drive or hear it in person
"Little Red Corvette" playing in one of the shots was a nice touch. This video is amazing, thank y'all for your time and energy.
that 65-58 mph acceleration tho!
I freaking LOVE Sarab!! He is like a NASA engineer working at Chevy. Chevy got lucky to get Sarab.
It’s amazing how the faster you went on the backroads the slower you went. Great video as always.
True. And yet - somehow - the electric motor sound, which they already stated as kicking in around 90mph (until the motor disengages at around 150mph), seemed to be whining at the 50-65 mph or so that they were travelling...
This channel has brought me from not caring about the Corvette at all to it being one of my favorite vehicles with the introduction of the E-Ray. Amazing video
Great Stuff Guys !!!!!!!!!!!! I loved how you overlayed a fake MPH screen footage over the real one during the test run. Your editing guy needs to work on that a bit more - LOL
I do appreciate it. It’s the reason why I watch this channel. It’s always been the reason why I watched this channel. The breakdown of the engineering even though I’m not an engineer even though I’m not going to go anywhere near that the more I understand how our car works and why it works the way it works, the better off I am. It’s one of the reasons why I watch Camissa. Horsepower and torque and the numbers, eh, you can you get that from anywhere. I swear to God AI hasn’t helped voice to text. The editing after the speak is still fairly heavy.
Thanks to both the engineers and savagegeese for making this content possible. You guys seem to have the right approach with incorporating the people who are behind the scenes and never get the time of day to talk about what they did during the cars process. I think its beneficial to the consumers who are interested in any make/model, to hear input from people working on the car directly. Not just the people who market it, and tell you all the things you WANT to hear. This was great!
Our goal in these sorts of projects is to connect the viewers with the engineers. I think these people have a tremendous wealth of knowledge and getting to absorb just a touch of that is a great experience.
For what it's worth, like many I got 4 simultaneous notifications and this was my first stop. I knew the nerd out would be strong and I was right.
This is the C8 I've been most excited for. It's the 911 Turbo equivalent to me. Shame the car really flatlines over 65 mph.
It just gets there and stays there. Probably that darn DCT robbing all the power.
Needs the Z06 engine or plaid-like motors that don't flatline
“Flatlining at 65” is a joke about speedometer edit around 23:00. You can see and hear car accelerate but speedo stays bouncing under 65
@@a1lebedev Him saying it "flatlines over 65 mph" is him getting the joke and render it in his own joke.
@@a1lebedev false!
Ya'll the only RUclips channel I've known who give great documentary videos on the newer automobiles. Keep up the great work we all appreciate it....
As someone who doesn’t pay much attention to what’s coming out anymore, this is a complete surprise. Very interesting development like the hybrid hypercars
Damn, that TSP premium footage must have cost a pretty penny. A true display of your dedication to the craft.
If I had the money, this video sold me on the E-Ray. Thing is awesome. As battery tech and other tech improves, this formula can hopefully continue to improve even further and drop weight... as long as they don't lose the v8, it's a winning formula.
Your description of the launch sounds exactly how my GT-R felt. It was something that I felt made the launches feel less visceral. Having been in a cars with lots of RWD torque monsters, the take off felt less “pinned to your seat” with AWD. Even at full bolt on performance, the effect never changed, just the launch/ quarter mile times.
Wore my jorts and NB’s to work today driving my C7 Z51 - then watched this. Today is a good day..
The speedo is always at 65mph. Pretty cool
@@brownwhale5518it was actually measuring how many miles of a gap it put on your car 🥱
Totally. Not to mention that the electric motor sound, which had already been mentioned as kicking in around 90mph (until the motor disengages at around 150mph), seemed to be whining at the 50-65 mph or so that they were travelling. 🏎 You guys... 😁
You guys just had way too much fun working your absolute asses off making a full-scale movie. Holy production quality.
I simply love the way you test cars and talk about them. 😊 Thanks for another video!
Regards from Poland 🇵🇱
Probably the coolest sounding hybrid *ever,* a proper performance-oriented V8 and electric motor working in perfect concert without one smothering or nerfing the other. I love this gen's Z06 but this is easily my favorite Vette in the lineup right now, the big question mark though is reliability with all that extra complexity in the mix.
I wasn’t sure about this E-Ray, but you both convinced me to aim for one! Keep up the amazing work
Definitely cool to hear from the ones who actually helped design the car. And the passion they have is 100% evident ! Hats off the all those creating this 1st generation ERay. Congrats!!
I'm just happy during your acceleration test you didn't go over 65 miles an hour. I would say you guys deserve a kudos for responsible driving and leading by example😊
And you need to spot video that has been hacked. 🤣🤣🤣
thank you Sarab, Trevor and Keith!!!
I think that incorporating a ice car with a hybrid drivetrain is the best combo no need for a full ev at this point at all this c8 here gives you everything an enthusiastic car person would ever need!! And also the price is outstanding!! 107 msrp loaded up nicely for 125k that’s just crazy!! 655hp and awd just for for example the Acura nsx was 220 with mark ups grant it this c8 eray will probably be 15k mark up and if ordered one dealers are not marking these up at all!!
Even better value and better sounding than a $250k, assuming you're even allowed an allocation, before even paying ADM, 992 Turbo S
This is probably the best street Corvette ever...it perfectly balances the street character the C8 has while giving you the speed performance of the ZO6 with likely lower maintenance costs. The performance is just insane...0-60 in 2.2 seconds, 10's at almost 130 mph in the 1/4 mile, what appears to be instant torque and response, and I love how they say the electric motor smooths out the dual clutch trans and makes it all instant. Love the scenery guys, looks like the Huntley/Woodstock/Gilberts area. I'm in Algonquin and I have gotten out to these back roads and it's great scenery...and fun!
Mr Geese’s cinematography is top quality compare to other car-related channels!!! Respect for the work you do!
This is one of the more complex cars I've ever seen and what's more impressive is that it actually works and feels good too.
Great segment, the new E-Ray looks to be a great year round performance car with better pricing than a Carrera 4.
Buahahaaaaa…if you can read .. look up the word “depreciation “….
@@BERZERKERSV4If your personal buying choices factor in depreciation, you can’t afford it.
@@BERZERKERSV4C8s don't depreciate you Porschejunk clown 🤡
@@JollyGiant19 found the guy with a 10 year 5 year old tesla lease who thinks hes now part of the elite
@@Dulc3B00kbyBrant0nlol dude stop it, its a vette not a bugatti. You think you’re part of the elite? That’s embarrassing
In terms of a comprehensive review this was next level 👍🏽
Corvette engineers should take a bow for developing a world-class sports car with the C8 in all its iterations and doing America proud.
Thank you, savagegeese for giving the engineers, designers, etc who do the actual work, credit.
Not to take away from this amazing video, but I didn't know EddieX was still this active even after all the Vehicle Virgins drama. Thanks for another great piece of content
Thanks so much Mark and Jack. Really enjoy the supported tech-talk, engineers.
So many people kind of wrote this off as an oddball lesser Vette because of the Z07/Z06 (which is clearly not chopped liver!). But this car is THE one to buy and live with. And the one for buyers who don't need to shout how cool they are. The E-Ray is an international technical tour-de-force, AND a real, usable supercar. Just brilliant.
love the content, guys! Also, I want to give props to GM for the amazing engineering they are putting in to some of their recent vehicles 👏
Love the idea of an independent electric motor for the front tires. I live in the rust belt and would never let a $100k car get eaten up by salt.
This guy's videos are on such a level or even 2 above the mass reviews that show up out there. Keep it up. You are on your way to the top.
I have a 2023 Stingray and I'm satisfied with it. Drve your Corvette respectfully while on the streets.
Always like the tech talk with engineers. Please keep doing that.
I’m sorry, these guys are some of the best out there. The fact that we hear from the engineers with so much detail. I learn so much from these videos. I am able to geek out on all the tech explanation, but your passion for these vehicles still comes through. Thank you!
Love that it exists! take this recipe and move it across the lineup GM. Hybridize the great ICE engines they have! Im staying on the Z06 allocation list though!
Gentlemen,
The quality and craftsmanship of your videos just continues to surpass your previous excellent efforts. I worry at some point you'll set such a high standard it will be impossible to maintain it video after video, and we spoiled viewers will complain that you released a mere 9.84/10 production instead of a 9.93/10.
Until that day happens, my highest compliments on continuing to push the limits of your art.
16:11 Yes! Thank you for going straight to the sources of truth that typically live behind the curtain. I can attest Marketing departments are full of BS. Often not even checking with the Engineers and instead posting incorrect specs to the public. It's very frustrating.
I knew this was coming since what this car is attempting to do is exceptionally relevant in this segment, but I still appreciate Jack's GM Microchip implant incessantly motivating Mark to humor the constant bombardment of Corvettespeak.
Never been a big Chevy fan, but this is something I would definitely consider. I'm so tired of the "threat" of vehicle electrification being shoved down our throats. I feel like this could bridge the gap. Kudos to @savagegeese for bringing this review, and kudos as well to the R&D and engineering team at Chevy. I hope to see other manufacturers follow suit.
When new ICE vehicles are universally banned, you can be sure that governments will manipulate the supply/cost of fuel to 'encourage' drivers of used ICE vehicles to move to EV..
There's no "threat", the hand of the market and consumer decisions change what is produced. The best selling car in the world is electric and the quickest car in the world, also an EV.
Thank for another amazing detailed review of a real departure for Corvette. No one else has done this! Thank you and All who contributed to the production! Well done.
To Jack:
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And all day and all night
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I have a blue house
With a blue window
Blue is the colour of all that I wear
Blue are the streets
And all the trees are too
I have a girlfriend and she is so blue
Blue are the people here
That walk around
Blue like my *corvette* its in and outside
Blue are the words I say
And what I think
Blue are the feelings
That live inside me
😂
So glad you highlighted the importance of the engineers behind the scenes of these amazing vehicles. Too often it’s some marketing executive that is the face of these rollouts. Thanks for all your hard work on these videos. Your dedication is apparent.
Savage Geese and Jay Leno doing the E-Ray on the same day. I had to come here first.
Yeah, I got 4 or 5 notifications at 9am EST
Media embargo
Me too!
“Sneaking in from your 50 y/o mistress” f’n gold man. 😂😂😂
Mark (and Jack!) you never fail to please.
It's so cool to see and hear the GM nerds discuss the development of systems they've dedicated portions of their lives on. This should be all the marketing GM needs. If you've got truly passionate, motivated engineers working on the platform that have pride in what they deliver, then the product is going to be amazing.
I've never wanted a corvette this bad. Astonishing, and absolutely lust-worthy.
I never thought about it before, but it would be awesome to have this as a year round sports car that a Canadian could actually use. That used to be reserved for AWD 911's and if you consider them sports cars (I don't), WRX's and Evo's
Why anyone would want to drive any of these cars in the winter is beyond me.
You're gonna rust out your Corvette in the winter? Wouldn't do winter running unless I was gonna rally it or something crazy like that
I’ve been hesitating watching this video because the idea of the E Ray makes me go from 0-4.78” in 1.7 jorts.
It’s exactly what I was hoping for.
The v8 and electric motor sound so cool together
That opening sequence got me harder than my arteries after eating 4 beef n cheddars. Amazing content as usual.
Heads/Cam/tune + electric is going to be a lethal combo on the street.
Not a fan of Corvettes but I would definitely purchase one of these in a few years! Brutal performance
I appreciate all of the engineering insight that this channel gets into. It does not bore me to death.
Question though: how is the internal combustion engine started? Is it an old-fashioned "chug-chug-chug" starter, or is there a dedicated motor to spin it up to idle speed instantly?
Hmmm whats the difference in practice? I dont see any. A starter is just a "dedicated" electric motor after all. I guess you might be asking if its more powerful, perhaps with other gearing than a normal starter?
I would guess it isnt.
@@GoldenCroc 12V vs. HV (200+ volts). If you search "KERS Kels" you'll find a starterless, clutchless 350Z race car with an electric assist system which also starts the engine from a dig.
Remarkable how you accelerated at full throttle through the gears and never exceeded the speed limit! Impressive.
I love the deep dive on the tech and the screen time given to the engineers. I don't consider a new car review complete without that anymore. Always loved the Csaba Csere C&D engineering takes, same with Kevin Cameron with Cycle World. I want to geek out on this stuff. Thank you for providing that.
I love the way they made the e-boost a sensory experience. Celebrate the tech instead of trying to hide it. Brilliant.
Also easily the best looking C8 in my eyes. Great video, thank you.
Totally. Loved the way the speedo 'wobbled' while the rest of the driver's display was rock-solid! Shame the electric motor sound, which had already been mentioned as kicking in around 90mph (until the motor disengages at around 150mph), seemed to be whining at the 50mph or so that they were travelling...
I like the concept a lot. I feel like chevrolet has something special here with the platform, and I like the no compromises hybrid approach. I could also imagine this kind of layout could be awesome for homologation purposes since there are now a variety of weights, power levels, and drive layouts for any kind of racing, even the neo-LM hybrid, or even fully electric racing. With that said, I could see the absolutely staggering potential (pun intended i suppose) of using this concept for a gran sport E, or ZR-E, or even a Z07E pack type of machine. Supercharged V8 in the back, bias the drive with regen up front, and let thy battery be thy ballast. I would be remissed if i did not see the potential of an e-ray type layout with a lighter powertrain in the rear for WEC duty. There is a 4cyl that looks to have a lot of potential in the silverado that is turbocharged, and also the V6 from the camaros or even the cadillacs. They have only begun to scratch the surface with the ceiling in this car working with the chassis and powertrain. I cant wait to see where they go with these next.
One of the best automotive videos I have ever watched. Great job guys!!!
Beside the artificial sound which does not have the option to turn it off, this is 10 out of 10.
More than likely you can just pull out the speaker or disconnect the fuse
I want more EVs using this principle, bring something extra, not just fuel economy. Very nice GT this.
I'm very surprised by Marks take and how much he truly enjoys the car and the engineering behind it.. wonder if they ever will use this tech in a SUV variant of some sort, I know I know, SUVs are over played and aren't anything like sports cars but when you have kids, they're a great all purpose machine
so you want a performance wagon
@@ShaiyanHossain yeah I was gonna say if you want performance, you're thinking of a wagon. Something like an RS6 Avant comes to mind
@@Courtesyflush52 cadillac escalade v >
Kids is a good reason to not have an suv - rollovers are hard to survive. Also, you want to be teaching your kids good ethics, and buying a battering ram that kills others disproportionality is morally sketchy.
Just buy a station wagon like a normal person…
Jack sounded extremely passionate about this E-Ray in the Shoppe. Mans' voice is beaming.
These two geniuses, never cease to amaze audiences. Superb video editing, through visuals that provide informative data in a conceptual manner to deliver an amazing visual and surround like experience. My ine question is do you guys think GM, took a look at what the NSX is like under the hood. Seems like they have been sitting on the works for a sports car that would have electrification as part of the dna of the engine. I now have to wonder can this E-ray be better than a NSX? Maybe we can stay tuned for a video that puts bith cars together in the track and delivers the answer we are all waiting to hear…🎉😂
Truly awesome video, i always look forward to the next video eagerly.
Man, the E-Ray is a way cooler idea than I was aware of. This whole time I’ve been under the impression that it was fully electric, granted I didn’t do a ton of research, I just saw the headlines saying “E-Ray” and assumed it was all electric.
A hybrid mid-engine V8 with a front mounted hybrid motor is awesome, if it was me, I’m not sure I would go AWD, but I’m sure it absolutely makes this thing even faster, maybe a little bit of extra under steer on the ragged edge, but even the Z06 has a touch of that in regular RWD-guise.
I think they purposely engineered a little bit of understeer to make it slightly “safer” for the folks coming from previous Corvettes who have very little mid-engine experience.
One thing I think could make this *way* more interesting is if they used the basic version of the high revving V8 from the Z06, rather than the “truck V8” from the base C8. That 8300 rpm engine paired with a rear-biased AWD and the hybrid motor would be absolutely awesome. It would be a monster.
I kind of wouldn’t be surprised if they are actually planning to do that at some point in the future. I think it’s a huge missed opportunity if they don’t do an E-Ray “Z06”-type of car. Seems like it would be a very natural evolution.
It wouldn’t even need to be all that much faster or torquey at all, just higher revving. 2.2 to 60 will never need to be topped as far as acceleration, I just think the higher revving engine would add a much more unique character to the actual driving experience.
you guys rule, please never stop giving us this level of detail!!!
Lol that bouncing speedometer readout is an unique feature, makes sure you always stay under 65 too! 😂
This is a DAMN good video! Great job guys! Thanks for letting us see and understand where the engineers' heads were when they made the car.
Chevy hit it out of the park with the E-Ray! A total Dr. Jeckle and Mr. Hyde car. I typically hate EV's but the way they incorporated it here is perfect. Well done! Great review, guys!
Mark really enjoys his Nissan Rogue! He even has the hat! A true automotive enthusiast! 😍