Best Combat Optic- Holo vs. Red Dot vs. Prism | Tactical Rifleman
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- Best Optic?
Honestly, I like all three. Between Red Dots and Holographics; I have always ran Holosights because of the wider field of view and less parallax. However, now that I'm retired and not going out on ops every night overseas; the shake-awake feature of many of the new red dots is awesome for a closet rifle or truck gun. Then, there is always the fact that my "perfect eyesight" is gone with age and I have astigmatism that is fixed best with a prism.
All three types are great. All have strong points. You decide what is best for you. Thanks for watching, TR.
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Hi Karl honored to have you test it, the Micro prism ACSS is actually made by us -Dimitri
I want one...with the new magnifier...that available yet, Dimitri? Will they work with Unity Tactical system?
@@ktimmer2 No exact eta but it’s not going to be too long, worth the wait on that.
Wdym made by you? Like PA has manufacturing capabilities now? No more outsourcing ??
Hey Dimitri, being that it’s a 1x, does that mean there’s a little magnification to it? When I look through mine, targets appear to be a little bit smaller. Versus looking through a red dot where what u see is exactly what u see.... thank u sir.
Need to make new Holosun aems with acss!
My takeaway with this is, aside from human errors, the group sizes here are ALL sufficient for defensive/offensive operations! Every one of them are very sufficient for taking out a bad dude! These are not precision optics or guns! Therefore we shouldn’t expect precision results!
Exactly, this isn't a 650 yard lung shot on a deer with $5 per round hunting ammo. This is under 100 yard center mass on a torso with ball ammo - all of these are fully sufficient. I don't need a sub MOA group I need a fast way to put 3-5 rounds in a 10 inch circle.
seems irons are that acurite
F Corn Pop!
@@deadguy361 Yeah irons are, but the name of the game in this case is speed to pop and accuracy in doing so.
Seems the prism is slightly more accurate (could be the chevron), then the holographic, then the red dot. But all are very close to each other.
My last deployment I used my own EoTec with a magnifier from EoTec and swapped out Lithium batteries out weekly as a PCC. 😉 It gave me good use to mid range and close with the ability to scan areas with it detached and could mount PVS-14 on rifle too.
Damn how time flies by.
I have Aimpoints, Eotechs, Trijicon MRO's, Sig Romeos and numerous Holosuns and I can say that after running on of the Primary Arms Micro Prisms it's currently my favorite. I'm in my 50's so my eyes aren't what they used to be but with the adjustment ring on the Micro Prism, I can dial in that Chevron to where it's crystal clear. I've also found that I seem to be more accurate when shooting fast.
Yeah, 66 here if I wear my corrective lens for distance they blur irons so I have been a dot guy for quite some time now. I prefer the prisms due to the fail safe nature of the etched reticle.
Thank you for this comment. My Eotech looks blurry to me.
Thanks for your advice been looking at prism, now I will get one.
I agree.. it is my favorite right now. Super light!
I was speaking with their sales guy (or one of) a month ago and they told me that there was going to be a 3x Microprism with 1/4 MOA adjustments coming out in the near future. I don't know if he screwed up and accidentally misrepresented the 3x magnifier announced today or if there is still a 3x microprism coming. The 1/4 MOA adjustment part keeps me hopeful that he wasn't talking about the magnifier.
This dude is like a cross between a highschool coach and cool social studies teacher, except he wears camo pants and carries an AR15... subscribed.
I have a primary arms glx 2x and i love it. The eye relief is rediculous. You can put your check all the way the the rear of the buffer and still see through. And its mounted on the front half of the upper receiver. Plus it has shake awake. Absolutely excellent product. Clean clear usable and effective.
Do you run the glx on an AR? Highly considering it!!
I own all three of these optics. When running and gunning the differences disappear when concentrating on the target. There is one noticeable difference however that stands out where I live. The Romeo 8t has a slight tint that separates the greens and creates better depth perception in the woods. Makes targets clearer. I think the biggest thing is to find the reticle that works for you.
Thanks for that tip. I've been running a Tango6 on a 300 HAM'R hog carbine. I find the only time I ever use magnification is at the shooting range and I rarely take it to the range. I was really leaning toward a prism, but depth perception and clarity are probably the two most important factors since none of them are going to be gathering any light. I haven't been out this year, but my longest shot last year was about 110y in E. TX.
Excellent rundown.
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Hey, Rex.
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The primary arms has been a great option for those of us who have astigmatisms. Love to buy American but nobody’s come close with a prism as far as battery life and the eye relief is very forgiving.
The smaller eye box and eye relief have always been the drawback of the prism sight, but they are catching up FAST.
Your profile picture is my Xbox profile picture.
what about vortex ?
The fact that the PA micro prism is in the same conversation is high praise. Without sounding cliche, it's likely a game changer in its current configuration.
My favorite is prism. Why?: never dies and no need for backup sites. Unless it breaks physically which is unlikely.
Primary Arms ACSS optics for me. Hands down, every time.
Unmagnified my groups are about identical at 50 meters. Being a rifleman isn't always about being an expert marksman so much as the employment of all the other knowledge needed to get, or to avoid getting, behind the rifle in the first place.
100% agreed, the stronger warriors NEVER fight. A marmot outlives a lion.
What a dumb comment. You should write a book about how to type a lot without saying anything.
@@MobileAura cringe
@@DB-sd3cw Are you talking to me?
@@DB-sd3cw Did anything that I say hurt your feelings? 🥲
This is an excellent video Karl. Something I just wanted to add is Green Dots, which I don't feel like gets talked about enough. I'm a shooter with astigmatism (I'm one of those people who's vision is bad enough the eye doc already has my prescription memorized aha). A lot of shooters with astigmatism feel they are confined to prisms and nonilluminated LPVOs with the etched reticle. Not always the case! A green dot with the brightness turned down and cowitnessed with BUIS allows many shooters with astigmatism to utilize their dots and holographics.The human eye picks up green easier than any other color as well, so it's easier to see it in something like the middle of the day with direct light on the optic.
True, The battery issue still looms large. When the Primatic 1X is available in Green, I will look at that one also. So far the Red Micro Prism is working very well for me. I am stigmatic also.
@@user-hz4zy2df8z the PA green prism is available right now
Well said. Not to mention in low light environments ie dawn or dusk the green is allot faster to pick up. I have better then 20 20 vision and used the green setting in the military. I had the eotec holographic halo on my m-4 with a 3x magnifier for close to med range. For me the green was so much faster then the red.
Thanks guys for the insight 👍. I do wear glasses and was concerned about wasting money on an optic that might not be right for me.
I have the green version slx cyclopes 1x prism gen 2 acss and when I added the PA magnifier it addressed my distance issues the 3x magnifier you will be happy this is my go to optic going forward
Excellent explanation and demonstrations. I've been on the fence with optics for a long time cause I didn't want to choose the wrong one and waste money. This helped me figure out what my needs are.
I just picked up the Primary Arms Prism and it is fantastic. I have it on a .300 BLK 7.5” AR pistol, a home defense gun. Training with my Mantis Blackbeard system, this sight is extremely fast and easy to acquire in any light setting. With, or without, the illumination engaged.
The selling point for me was the ability to run without electronics. That and the fact I do have astigmatism, even with my glasses off, the reticle is easily acquired and I can still perform.
Great video Karl. I appreciate the presentation of facts, the professionalism, and allowing us to make a decision based on our needs. Top notch work Tactical Rifleman!
It's amazing how many people own all 3 optics and have opinions to share 🤣
Yeah we have alot of guns. I like holosun with solar panels over qll my high end
Great points. And solid things to consider when looking for a optic. Especially the point on the motion activated optics.
Excellent rundown, Im inbetween optics and leaning towards a prism. So this was both timely and appreciated.
Thanks for the review and discussion. To many of us do not think through what we will use these optics for and the issues that come with them under our distinctive situations.
Always ran eotech but I gave the romeo 8t a shot and never looked back. Romeo has the clearest glass I have used. Love eotech but love my sig just a little bit more.
I still use my eotech for my house gun anyday of the week. I do love my primary arms slx 1-8x lpvo on my .308 hunting rifle. If someone gave me that little prism I would definitely try it out. For me its muscle memory and what I know and train with! Much love TR
Great presentation! I like the prism as it still works when the battery is done.
The best optic is whatever optic works best for the individual. I loathe the videos consisting on hearing someone's bias toward their stuff. I do appreciate hearing other people's experiences with products and sharing with people so they can make their own choices. All these optics are great, it's whatever works best for you.
Important topic. Good video. I think a better way to demonstrate parallax issues is to simply put the rifle in a vise and then move a camera around while looking through it -- the amount of parallax is then the amount you see the aim point moving around. It's a VERY convincing demonstration to people who maybe don't completely understand the theory of parallax.
A fool proof way to test parallax is to set your gun in a vice, see where the co-witnessed irons are pointing, and then move your eye/ camera to different spots behind the optic and see if the dot's apparent location shifts at all. If it does, that means there is some parallax and your projectile will no longer impact where the dot is exactly.
Right?! Not sure why this wasn't the simple test method used.
@@joshcarlson9352 if your gun is in a vise it doesn't even matter if you look down the sites the projectiles will hit the same location no matter what site you have on.
@@jamescarolan96 agreed it only makes a difference when you are moving, your hold changes, basically not static, but depending on distance you likely will hit a target, aim small miss small
I have experience with a wide variety of red dot type sights and all have some parallax, however major or minimum, LPVO may have fish eye do to distance but so on and so on..
@@jamescarolan96 obviously you don't get it. He means if you put a gun in a vice with a red dot, then you move your head and the dot shifts left or right, then the impact will no longer be where the dot is aimed it. Red dots are supposed to be able to move within the glass but still be pointing at where you originally aimed. That is parallax
Best advice, pick one that is durable, can survive some water(not necessarily launched out of a sub), always on(even motac can be turned off on most), and I'll add company support, I know Sig and Primary replace even stuff I busted...
Great Video from a qualified guy that isn't shoving his opinions based on combat ops down your throat, pick the optic that works for you based on your op and your eyes, great advice👍🏾
Great job explaining all the pros and cons. You earned a new subscriber with this one.
Thank you SO MUCH for finally and actually making a test, based on a scientifically as accurate as possible basis!
HIGHLY enjoyable and I indeed consider your results rather facts than oppinion. And that's rare...
Keep up the good work, you're much appreciated!
I know this is a spot for the different optics, but can we take a moment to give props for how absolutely still you can be while taking aim. At least twice I thought my video was buffering because you were so still.
Always great, informative, and entertaining Karl. I hope I can get the chance to take a class or 2 with you next year.
Wow, really in depth. Thanks for showing the difference and eliminating the BS about the 3 different types of optics. I'm a civilian who was never enlisted so I've not had a ton of experience with different types, just what I own. I don't have an EOTech or a prism style sight. The Micro Prism with ACSS is on my radar for my AR though since I have a pretty nasty astigmatism in my right eye which is my dominant.
A lot of great information pointed out. Since I won't be using any of these sights overseas, battery life is not much of concern since I can easy go buy new batteries. That leaves sight acquisition at the top and then ruggedness as a close second in choosing a sight system. I know many would like to have most of these sights to shoot for extended periods to see which work best but cost is prohibitive to acquire them all. 🇺🇸
ACSS reticles are hard to beat. I liken them to the point-and-shoot camera, but for firearms. Still, a simple red dot works well for me inside 300m.
@M. Denz that was the perfect set up. I was saving up for it and when I finally had the money it was discontinued. I refuse to buy from primary arms anymore lol
@@RomanCatholic001 I bet it was due to lack of sales.
@@withoutfurtheradoforever probably. I cant find anyone willing to part ways with theirs though. It sucks because I love acog sights.
@@RomanCatholic001 The 1.5x ACSS acog? I'd sell mine. I don't see any others on ebay so maybe I'll toss it up there in the next few days I just need to find the little pelican case that came with it.
Great review Karl. A very wise man was quoted as saying get the right tool for the job. That said though I've had a simple old eotech 512 for years mounted on a Sig516 patrol rifle. Never had any issues with this set up although I'm not getting any younger and I can see a lighter, handier setup in my future. Until then though.... well we're used to each other.
Loved the review. No nonsense straightforward demonstration of each. Really appreciate that. Thank you
Thanks for watching!
The new PA Micro Prism is amazing. I have one of the originals and two of the new ones and they run great.
I already know Karl will say "whatever matches my rifle the best and looks the prettiest"
I too am one of those guys at the half century mark and LOVE the prism because of astigmatism. Primary arms are fantastic products and NEVER had a problem dealing with them on anything
"what is our takeaway? well, carl is a terrible shot at 50m" lol I love the humility, as always.
you started talking about ruggedness toward the end, i was kind of waiting for a sledgehammer to come out but i'm also kinda glad it didn't
love the work
On my home defense AR I have a 12.3” pistol with a Trijicon MRO. I change the battery every year and at 100 yards from prone I’m printing 1.5-2 inch groups. It just works, therefore I leave it alone. I do however need to train more with it and shoot drills and non-prone positional stuff
Be aware that MROs are notorious for having severe parallax issues, so if you're doing training involving unconventional positions, your dot not being centered means you probably won't be getting good hits.
I’m now a PA guy, the prism offering a precise aiming point and as we age, eye problems emerge. I can do 1 MOA or better at 100 yds
With different weapons and different calibers .556, 7.62 x 51 and 300 BO. With the ACSS system
You are good to 5-600 yds. Perfect!
i have never loved an optic more than my romeo 3 with the eiffel tower scaffold riser. i think specifically its the 3 micro, the greyish one. anyhow, super light weight, natural aimer, as soon as i bring it up, my eye is right on the dot. great battery life. its not wildly robust but its on my scorpion so that doesnt worry me much. just excellent little optic. had it for 4 years now, never turned it off, never changed the battery...never failed.
Stumbled upon this video, LOVE IT. Love the explanations. Clear & concise. Sub’d
Eotech all day long in my opinion. Great review Carl!
My takeaway:
Eotech has very little parallax, but the dot is a bit more fuzzy. Eats more battery.
Good reflex/red-dot is very crisp, but it probably has more parallax. Eats less battery.
Prism is great, but you sacrifice eye relief. Also eats quite a bit of battery.
I've heard the eye relief is near infinite on the micro prism but I'll update you when mine comes in
Ok, it came in. Only 500ish rounds on it so far. But even with it as far forward on the receiver as possible, no scope shadow
@@Mr_Gabbles he probably meant eye box.
The holographic dot is not fuzzy. The circle dot is not in focus unless you look at the target. The dot is one MOA, one half to one third the size of the red dot. The circle is made up of round pixels. If you look at the reticle instead of the target, you will see those pixels, but if you look at the target it appears to be a nice smooth circle.
They are really cool as the reticle always seems painted on the target, no matter the range, like a laser. Red dots on the other hand can seem out of focus at farther ranges, but that's not what they are designed for.
That's a good looking ride man, roll on! Great help thank you.
Out of all 3...you done killed those circles real dead. Challenge complete.
Looks like inside of 100 yards (which is close to the max you would want to use a 1x anyhow) they are all great options. Reticle shape/color/crispness and battery life seem to be the bigger factor. Great video.
I use only my EOTECH Sight and it's so nice.
I really like how precise your "routine" is. Its the same every time. Love that.
Glad you enjoy it!
Very well done. It is always about the Pro's and Con's
EOTech is my favorite...skeet shoot-the-snot-out of clay pigeons when mounted on a V3 shotgun.
First time a buddy of mine took me to a clays course, my only shotgun was my VR-80 mag fed AR pattern shotgun with an Eotech. He thought it was the craziest thing and made fun of it hard, but it was my first time and I almost beat him and his $25k custom Italian shotgun with it!
thats the great thing about AR's they are so versatile, and easy to modify to each persons liking.
Good comparison and all are deadly shots at 50 meters.
Like many of the comments here, I am also older in age and I went to a red dot that I got a deal on.
A strong wind picked my firearm up and dropped that red dot on the ground. I then researched here on RUclips and found that people dropped a lot of their firearms and that batteries are pain in the butt to find.
Eotech 552 (AA batteries) was my answer.
Thank you for your service and for your great videos! Very well done and always informative!
Thanks for watching, TR
I like them all, you can not go wrong with any of those! I have an EOTECH on one, an MRO on another, but my favorite hands down is the Meprolight MOR Pro with visible and IR green laser. All in one unit, that runs amazing...the Israelis certainly know how to design great kit.
I just purchased the meprolight m21. Did I make a mistake? Why didn't you pick that one?
Meprolight makes some compelling products. It's too bad they tend to get overlooked.
@@benvashchenko5696 If using night vision on a helmet the IR laser works. M21 is fine for daylight use.
Israel rules!
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I run the holosun Acss by primary arms. It's a red dot but it's extremely rugged, accurate, easy to use. I had to use it in an OIS and had to engage at over 120 yards. It was easy with this optic. I do have astigmatism, but with contacts or glasses it's not anything that affects my ability to use the optic unless I have the brightness too high.
Karl you're not bad for an Army guy.. Great video, appreciated. A medium weight chrome lined milspec barrel it will group much better at 50 yards: as a matter of fact it will group that well at 400 meters with military 62g.
Thank you for this vid. I was debating what to get for my home defense AR and this was helpful.
Love my PA 1x Micro Prism. I know they're not the most expensive or "tried and true" optics out there.. but it works.. It's a reliable little tank of an optic with a lot of nice features and I simply love it.
I was very surprised by how awesome it is!!!
@@TacticalRifleman yessir it's definitely a beast of a little optic! Thank you for all of your reviews, insights and generally excellent content sir; the Republic is better for it. Would love to attend one of your live courses someday!
Cheers and God bless 🇺🇲
I have an Elcan prism 4X. It is awesome, but with a non adjustable objective, my old eyes are not happy. It is going down the road for a herd of these PA Micro prisms.
@@user-hz4zy2df8z I have a 1st gen 1x, a 3x and the new micro 1x.. all of them are excellent for their intended niche. I haven't handled the 2x or the 5x but I can consistently and reliably ring a 4" steel at 200yds with my 3x.
@@user-hz4zy2df8z if your vision isn't perfect or you have an astigmatism, can't recommend the PA prisms enough. My eyes aren't great and with prescription safety glasses being so expensive, the adjustable diopter is a lifesaver.
I just upgraded my home defense AR with a Sig 8T, over an Eotech. The main reason was the shake awake.
Great info. For me I have all 3 types, but mainly stick with red dot optics for most of my MSRs due to cost. My main training fighting rifle has a red dot and 3x magnifier.
Great Video..... excellent information!! I change all my batteries in my optics on my birthday. Its my routine that I do to assure my optics are ready!!!
For shooters like myself with a astigmatism prism optics are the way to go.....also prism scopes are not dependent on battery's due to the fact they have a ecthed reticle.....prism scopes are also robust and durable.....I do want to try a eotech or "high value" red dot but my eyes won't let me
I have a pretty significant astigmatism and have found between the Aimpoint ond Eotechs I can shoot the Eotech better. The way they display the reticle doesn't cause the lightning bolt made out of grapes that I get with red dots. I have wanted to try one of the PA sights but have been buying Jeep parts vs gun parts lately...lol.
Lasik is getting more affordable, I had a bad astigmatism and horrible eyesight( -4.75 and -3.75) I had the "smile" type lasik done and i barely notice any starburst at all now. I seen 20x20 the very next day. It was worth the 3k
@Bravo Six The blooming in darkness can mean that the dot is too bright for the environment. Try adjusting the brightness down to see if it resolves.
Found out how bad my astigmatism was after I bought an EOTech ESPX3. Figured my corrective contact lenses would still enable me to see it clear enough but I was wrong. Holographic sites are horrible for astigmatism simply because the image is projected onto screen. Prism all day. After Literally checking every option out there nothing came close to the Trijicon acog. I went with the mini acog 1.5x16. It Has to be the most slept on optic ever! Its a 1.5 magnification so to me it’s even better than a normal 1x red dot. Just bumps it up a little bit for better target acquisition up close. I have never looked through a piece of glass clearer in my life lol. And the biggest thing about the acogs are the eye relief. The 3 and 4x ( most popular models) have a horrible Eye relief. On the 1.5x I can literally See the scope from almost a foot away, Which is a game changer! Yes the EOTech 100% has a bigger window but for me that’s about it. Also spending 700+ for any optic that needs to change batteries just doesn’t make sense. The acog is always on and always ready to go Period! Also an etched reticle is so important. In any event your battery goes dead or you crack the optic, You still have the etched reticle to get the job done! Awesome review my brother!!
@@eianhalsted6089I was -9.5 before LASIK...best shit ever. lol
When you have an addiction to building ARs as advanced as mine you try a bit of everything. Best optic is the one you practice with. Go run laps.
How advanced is your AR
I believe he was implying his addiction to building them was advanced...not necessarily his AR.
Exactly Dude
How advanced is my AR? It makes coffee, pours beer, and gives happy endings.
@@jayjankovich holy shit. Mine just learned to use the toilet
I love the new PA Cyclops gen2 with ACSS. It also has shake awake and is offered in green. So Quick with that reticle, Once it's in the doughnut it dead. Great vid.
First and foremost thank you for your service, and second excellent video. Haha, I’m currently looking at one of these options and enjoyed the information.
I ll take the ACSS Cyclops with etched reticle over anything
I have that on my bcm. A nice and reliable combo
The eye relief tho
I’m actually still running a Holosun for 3.5 years on my personal carbine. Absolutely the new titanium ones are better. Guys laughed when I started using one and I was shooting better with it. But I also use a EOTECH with flip to side magnifying. and I have a 1-4 scope
EoTech is hard to beat and I personally love my 552 that takes AA batteries just because i like that those are the most abundant and easy to source.
The reason why I like my eotech , is simply because it doesn’t save my last brightness mode I set it as . For example, I’m out in the range , outside range . I set the brightness brighter than my future , I wouldn’t want that same brightness for when I need it inside my house or else , I’ll get blinded . Good video . But at the end of the day , it’s always depends on your preference. Such like everything in this world .
I appreciate your research and help in choosing my optic. Saved me a lot of time and money picking out electronic sighting optics. For me its holosun w/ shake awake. Why? Because it may come at anytime.
Minute man Jim.
Started with a red dot and then moved to holographic for a bigger sight window and because of my astigmatism.
Love it!!! Especially the way the reticle is just painted on the target!
As for battery life, I check my safe every night and every morning, turning on and off the reticle when I do. Gives me the opportunity to practice retrieving my rifle from the safe.
Bought five years worth of batteries with a ten year shelf life. Figure it will last me until they come out with something better.
bigger window ? I have a Holosun 512C the window is as big if not bigger than my friends Eotech. I dont like the how fuzzy the dot is on those eeotechs also no shake awake and short battery life
@@redeye8526 there are some red dots as big as an EoTech, yes. The dot is not fuzzy. You're looking at the reticle. You need to look at the target. Then it will be in focus.
Joe’s right… if you focus on the target, the EOTech reticle is crystal clear
i hose clamp a toothpick on the end of the barrel and zip tie a beer can tab on the rear top of the receiver . i use coors for under 300 yds and hamms for out to 500 yds .
Nice. How do the Tall cans shoot?
@@AutitsicDysexlia those are for when the suppressor is mounted . i find that they work best when freshly mounted they get a little flat when warm .
@@giuseppe_M right on😆
The video we all needed & wanted.
Fantastic real-world test & demo! Proof on camera of use, thank you
I really want that Primay Arms Microprism, but their choice of going with an ACOG micro mount instead of the T1 mount like most compact optics is what has stopped me. I really like the Unity 2.26" riser, and I just can't use it with the SLx
I love the EOTECHs and the ACSS reticle. Hard to decide which is best, but EOTECH is my choice for home defense.
I think the PA is a much better choice for home defense, it has shake and wake, Eotech you have to manually turn on and the battery life is 50 times longer and that’s with out shake and wake feature
@@gunblasterr should I get the primary arms 1x micro prism or exps2 ?
@@daytonsmith8910 PA, it has shake awake you can set the power setting and pick it up and be running the Eotech you ll have to remember to turn it on instead of the PA that you leave on, its battery life is like 30 times more then Eotech and etched
@@gunblasterr what about PA prism or aimpoint t2
Awesome work, I really enjoy your videos and all the time you take sharing your advice.
I appreciate that!
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Having used Aimpoints, Trijicons, Eotechs, you name it - I've settled on the Romeo 8T with the Aimpoint T1/T2 a close second. The 8T just has too many features to dismiss for me. Shake awake can be turned off if you want, multiple reticles, clear as shit reticles (helps with astigmatism - eotechs looked like shit to me) sealed emitter, clear glass, reliable tanks, etc. They're just everything I've wanted in an optic and nothing competes currently. The T1/2s are a close second for their simplicity and reliability.
Hmm, the Uh-1 is better IMO minus the lack of features and terrible battery life. 💀
@@MobileAura An actual holo sight (not a red dot with donut of death reticle) with shake awake would be an absolute game changer IMO. I wonder why such a thing doesn't exist.
Excellent review. However, the lateral width of either groups has to be taken into consideration that there can sometimes be lateral movement of the rifle no matter how much you think that didn't happen. We all know a degree shift up, down, or to the side can translate into inches down range. And so few rounds fired lends only a high level rudimentary observation rather than an in depth one. Something to consider. Again overall I enjoyed the review of these three types of fixed optics.
I think it would have been helpful if he had put different color pasties over the holes before moving his head. This would have made it easier to visualize what was happening.
Outstanding video! Lots of great info.
Excellent video Karl! 🤟💥
Good info
The chevron on my ACSS is so small it might as well be a dot. I can put a detachable magnifier inline and then the ACSS really comes in to effect. I chose green and white targets so I don't need to turn on the red light of the prism ; the etched reticle is just fine with no power. If there is a black target, hit the button to turn on the red light and the contrast against he black target is just fine. Also, there is a diopter lens that can be adjusted to bring into focus the reticle; it has no effect on the focus of the target just the reticle. Adjust the diopter for your preferred condition to shoot i.e. corrective glasses, contact lenses, or naked eye.
This makes third time watching. I have 5 prism scopes for continuity of function/training/logistics between all of my platforms 5.56 carbine/5.56 SBR/9mm PCC/shotgun/dedicated .22 AR trainer. I'm happy to see the performance related to parallax. I was running a Leupold patrol, and MRO. Both had horrid parallax. Neither was a true 1x to boot. I've kept the patrol to mount on a traditional rifle. PA has a good scope there.
I was tickled with your surprise at the performance of the prism.
Thanks Karl and team! If your eyes require prisms in your glasses to correct double vision Binden aiming doesn’t work quite as well. As with everything know what your equipment does for YOU. It is one of my limitations.
My preference is for the prism sights, also available with fixed magnification. Not only do they have shake awake, but you can manually turn them off easily for transport scenarios to conserve battery power. Having an etched reticle is also a big plus in case of battery failure. I think with the etched reticle there's one more data point to eliminate the need for BUIS. With red dot and EOTECH, you loose your battery, you better have BUIS or your out of the fight.
An important consideration if you are trying to keep your gun as light as possible.
I'm a Sig fan, to a fault, but May will make 2 years I will have been running the 8T on my bag rifle and it has not left my gun since I first mounted it...it's hands down my favorite optic...you can't ignore the features and I'm rough on my guns and the 8T takes it like a champ and I still haven't changed the battery and it works like the day I bought it...solid video like always brother...Strength and Honor!
Awesome video! Badass block of instruction!
Great video Karl. Thanks for your service and Semper Fi from an old Marine.
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching and thank you for your service, TR
I feel like the sig was my favorite but honestly I was very impressed with that prism I thought being that small would make it harder to use
Thanks for the comparison. Been thinking of the prism.
Great stuff Karl!! I'm approaching my 60's and have a astigmatism. I do enjoy range time. Primary seems like the direction to go. 👍💪💪💪🇺🇸🍻
Well said!
@@TacticalRifleman, I still prefer my 1911 sonny!! LOL 😆 .OK I do have a couple of glocks. Stay Strong and Be Safe! 🍻🇺🇸
I like this type of content Karl. The camera and editing look good too.
I like 1x prism and red dots, when you have to use them they're way more instinctive compared to anything else. In my experience, accuracy is the same regardless of sighting system, the only thing that changes is target identification and time between shots. You can always throw a magnifier behind them for further shots.
I recently got into spot stalking feral pigs out here in Texas, with a red dot/prism it's just cover target and squeeze. Irons and scopes you have to align and focus in the eye box, sometimes that takes so long they run off or charge. I don't run eotechs except on a SCAR and I always check zero, the last one I had thermal drifted badly where my other optics held POI.
Great commentary and demonstration. Etched has advantages over any other battery optic.
I can appreciate you keeping it real. Thanks for making good videos
I try
I honestly believe reticle shape & FOV trade off are the most important factors; before weight. It is a matter of getting the best visual target acquisition & weapon accuracy improvement.
Relevant case point being his favoritism to the chevron reticle style; it had the best grouping. His like of the reticle style factored into the accuracy; in my opinion.
Take away: find a durable sight that has a reticle style that you like.