The OM5 had six or seven incarnations over the years - some of the top jazz musicians passed through, like the Dorsey Bros., and came out the other side, often with bands of their own - the one you mentioned, Carolina Cotton Pickers for another, cant' remember the rest offhand. All white, not a Southerner among them, in fact, a typical New York first generation immigrant mix of Italians and Jews. My mother, a flapper in her day, said they were the finest dance band ever. I'd love to have heard them live!
Great song and great film! I wonder, is there a story behind the song title "Shake it and Break it". Was it originally an expression in jazz or in popular culture, and if so what did it mean? :^) 🎺
The personnel given here is incorrect! the payers were: Phil Napoleon, trumpet Miff Mole, trombone Berhard "Doc" Berendsohn, clarinet unknown, piano (NOT Jimmy Durante) unknown, drums (NOT Jack Roth) The recording date was c. July 29, 1921 For a detailed study of the OM5's career, please see: www.vjm.biz/178-om5-part-1-internet.pdf and www.vjm.biz/179-om5-part-2.pdf
I did a big mistake, I didn't check the pitch when transferring, this was recorded at around 82 rpm! Unfortunately I realized it later... so, instead to play in the key of F it's in Eb (circa).
@@lindyhoppers I tried using the youtube settings to replay it at x1,1 speed, and it does sound more natural and swingy, although the key is still too low, of course.
The personnel given here is incorrect! the payers were: Phil Napoleon, trumpet Miff Mole, trombone Berhard "Doc" Berendsohn, clarinet unknown, piano (NOT Jimmy Durante) unknown, drums (NOT Jack Roth) The recording date was c. July 29, 1921 For a detailed study of the OM5's career, please see: www.vjm.biz/178-om5-part-1-internet.pdf www.vjm.biz/179-om5-part-2.pdf www.vjm.biz/181-om5-part-3-internet.pdf www.vjm.biz/optima---part-4---internet.pdf
This was an early pseudonym for the Original Memphis Five, q.v. Phil Napoleon, t / ? Moe Gappell, tb / Doc Behrendson, cl / Loring McMurray, as / Jimmy Durante, p / Jack Roth, d / Sam Lanin, v comments. New York, c. July, 1921. Very intersting, that Brian Rust say that trombone playes is not a Miff Mole. He play exacly like Miff Mole(Moe Gappelli) Maybe this is a Mole's pseudonym.I have all 3 take, and Your's quality is the best. As musician, I don'r think they play in E. All athers play in F. But it sounds great in E. Thanks Mr. Lindyhoppers. Thanks for Charlie Chaplin too. Bixbix81
I'm sure that they play in F. F have special sound. I just try in Eb(with a help of Audacity. It's sounds strange. But who knows. Best way to check Your pitch is to lisyen to other numbers f,ex. in Bb. If they pay in B o A. I don't know wht a records do you have? WHEN YOU;RE SMILING WITH Arthur Ross on Harmony 687-H they play in Bb. I'll check all Your recordings on You Tube and will try. I know that all music from 20th is little (1/2 of 1/2 tune0 higher. Same numbe with the Clevelanders (Harry Reser they play in Db. Most important is that this music is so beautiful and they can play what ever they will. Ida Sweet is Applecider with Red Nichols they play in D and is so beautiful. Bixbix81
New research has shown the personnel to be as follows: Phil Napoleon, trumpet Miff Mole, trombone (NOT Moe Gappell) Berhard "Doc" Berendsohn, clarinet unknown, piano (NOT Jimmy Durante) unknown, drums (NOT Jack Roth) No alto saxophone is audible on the above recording (from Emerson) For a detailed study on the career of the Original Memphis Five, please see: www.vjm.biz/178-om5-part-1-internet.pdf and www.vjm.biz/179-om5-part-2.pdf and www.vjm.biz/181-om5-part-3-internet.pdf The fourth & final part of the article will be published in February 2019.
Thank You so very much for those news. I always knew that it was Miff Mole.(It's impossible that somebody can play like HIM. Who is Moe Grapheli? If it was somebody else, that he should be more famouse.Best Regards Bixbix81
fantastic sound 👍
Interesting. I just found this recording on Regal as "Kentucky Serenaders." Love it!
The OM5 had six or seven incarnations over the years - some of the top jazz musicians passed through, like the Dorsey Bros., and came out the other side, often with bands of their own - the one you mentioned, Carolina Cotton Pickers for another, cant' remember the rest offhand. All white, not a Southerner among them, in fact, a typical New York first generation immigrant mix of Italians and Jews. My mother, a flapper in her day, said they were the finest dance band ever. I'd love to have heard them live!
Music & Film both 10 out of 10!
Great song and great film! I wonder, is there a story behind the song title "Shake it and Break it". Was it originally an expression in jazz or in popular culture, and if so what did it mean? :^) 🎺
The personnel given here is incorrect! the payers were:
Phil Napoleon, trumpet
Miff Mole, trombone
Berhard "Doc" Berendsohn, clarinet
unknown, piano (NOT Jimmy Durante)
unknown, drums (NOT Jack Roth)
The recording date was c. July 29, 1921
For a detailed study of the OM5's career, please see:
www.vjm.biz/178-om5-part-1-internet.pdf
and
www.vjm.biz/179-om5-part-2.pdf
Thx for the update
e GREAT TRANSFER- and so well recorded originally as you noted-
Lord in heaven, who did the remastering? It's nothing short of a miracle!
I did a big mistake, I didn't check the pitch when transferring, this was recorded at around 82 rpm! Unfortunately I realized it later... so, instead to play in the key of F it's in Eb (circa).
@@lindyhoppers I tried using the youtube settings to replay it at x1,1 speed, and it does sound more natural and swingy, although the key is still too low, of course.
The personnel given here is incorrect! the payers were:
Phil Napoleon, trumpet
Miff Mole, trombone
Berhard "Doc" Berendsohn, clarinet
unknown, piano (NOT Jimmy Durante)
unknown, drums (NOT Jack Roth)
The recording date was c. July 29, 1921
For a detailed study of the OM5's career, please see:
www.vjm.biz/178-om5-part-1-internet.pdf
www.vjm.biz/179-om5-part-2.pdf
www.vjm.biz/181-om5-part-3-internet.pdf
www.vjm.biz/optima---part-4---internet.pdf
This was an early pseudonym for the Original Memphis Five, q.v. Phil Napoleon, t / ? Moe Gappell, tb / Doc Behrendson,
cl / Loring McMurray, as / Jimmy Durante, p / Jack Roth, d / Sam Lanin, v comments. New York, c. July, 1921. Very intersting, that Brian Rust say that trombone playes is not a Miff Mole. He play exacly like Miff Mole(Moe Gappelli) Maybe this is a Mole's pseudonym.I have all 3 take, and Your's quality is the best. As musician, I don'r think they play in E. All athers play in F. But it sounds great in E. Thanks Mr. Lindyhoppers. Thanks for Charlie Chaplin too. Bixbix81
I didn't correct the pitch, maybe was recorded in E flat?
The original sheet music is in Ab.
I'm sure that they play in F. F have special sound. I just try in Eb(with a help of Audacity. It's sounds strange. But who knows. Best way to check Your pitch is to lisyen to other numbers f,ex. in Bb. If they pay in B o A. I don't know wht a records do you have? WHEN YOU;RE SMILING WITH Arthur Ross on Harmony 687-H they play in Bb. I'll check all Your recordings on You Tube and will try. I know that all music from 20th is little (1/2 of 1/2 tune0 higher. Same numbe with the Clevelanders (Harry Reser they play in Db. Most important is that this music is so beautiful and they can play what ever they will. Ida Sweet is Applecider with Red Nichols they play in D and is so beautiful. Bixbix81
New research has shown the personnel to be as follows:
Phil Napoleon, trumpet
Miff Mole, trombone (NOT Moe Gappell)
Berhard "Doc" Berendsohn, clarinet
unknown, piano (NOT Jimmy Durante)
unknown, drums (NOT Jack Roth)
No alto saxophone is audible on the above recording (from Emerson)
For a detailed study on the career of the Original Memphis Five, please see:
www.vjm.biz/178-om5-part-1-internet.pdf
and
www.vjm.biz/179-om5-part-2.pdf
and
www.vjm.biz/181-om5-part-3-internet.pdf
The fourth & final part of the article will be published in February 2019.
Thank You so very much for those news. I always knew that it was Miff Mole.(It's impossible that somebody can play like HIM. Who is Moe Grapheli? If it was somebody else, that he should be more famouse.Best Regards Bixbix81
You asked who Moe Gappell was. Please refer to part 1 of my OM5 piece, which I've linked above, where there's a biography of Moe Gappell contained.
i think these are Lanins Serenaders,have this too on pathe,sounds same...
it is Lanins
And check out the King Oliver version.