Thanks UT. For those with M796, the 5 mm hex drain plug torque should be about 15 ft-lb (20 nm), not the 42 nm stated in the Ducati service manual. The oil volume needed is also not the 3.7 liters per manual with filter replaced. Fill just to the high mark on the sight glass with the bike up right, start the bike up and let it idle for 3 min, turn the bike off, wait 10 min, then check level. Repeat the steps until the oil level is between the high and low marks with the bike upright.
That's a good point, and the filter is straight up and down, it's very easy to fill. If the filter is full, oil will get to the heads quicker. I have an '79 ducati darmah, and the filter is upside down under the right side carb, in my case I can't fill the filter. Cheers, Rob
@88wingnut Mmm... IIRC filters were identical. There's only one filter model Ducati use I believe. And I wouldn't worry abt the oil amount unless the difference is > 0.5 L. Just make sure it's at about the right level when you check the oil window.
Thanks for the video. I have a 2011 Monster 696 thats due. The dealer has long wait for oil change so thanks to your vid I will do it myself. If you ever change out your battery please post a video. Thanks. James (Lakeland FL.)
I really suggest keeping the drain plug off while removing the filter. Removing the filter changes the pressure in that area of the motor and can cause some oil to run out into the crankcase. You may have a small amount of oil rush down to your plug when you remove the filter but you already have the plug tightened, making the oil change less effective.
I respect the way you care for your bike. I noticed your frame sliders. What brand are they and where did you buy them. PLEASE keep sending out the great 696 videos.
Great video.. FYI, on the S4 2002 the filter crush washer is 20mm, also LO for an 05 R6 is 14mm. For the oil screen washer, I have yet to measure it or find it. The screen washer I got from Advanced auto parts, Labeled M14 and M20 and it was about 3 buck for 3, they are copper to which I believe seals better. If you know size of the oil screen, post it but have not matched one yet at an autoparts.
Second 'filter' is a screen to keep metal particles from entering the oil pump. It just needs to be cleaned once in a while. But it's so easy to do that I would just do it every oil change anyway.
@Deadpoetic6 Sorry I'm not sure what the new 2011 model looks like. But there should be some sort of plug at the lowest point of the engine case. May not take a 10mm allen key, but may take something else. Good luck.
The service manual says 3.1 Qt. I used a little less than 3 Qt. So I think buying 3 Qt should suffice. Make sure you use motorcycle-specific oil. Automobile oil has friction modifier that doesn't work well with wet-clutch on the 696. I use full synthetic 10W-50 but 10W-40 or 15W-40 or 15W-50 will all work just fine.
@mike148r You'll probably have to redo that oil change. :( Make sure: 1) you are using the right filter, probably so, since Ducati really have only one filter, I think 2) Clean the filter mount on the engine with rag so that no dirt can get between your filter seal and the mount surface. 3) Did you oil the O ring on the filter before you twist it on? Dry seal could cause some leak. That's all I can think of. Good luck.
was this just for the engine oil??? I mean, what was the second filter for, I thought all you need to do is replace oil filter at the bottom(the black thing that looks like a can)???
Great video... very helpfull Here in Brazil i can't find the oil filter or the o-ring seal. You know any store that sell these products to Brazil? My Monster is with 500km and i realy need..
The service symbol needs to be cleared by your dealer. I don't know of any other way. Hex keys were 10 and 14mm. It's also mentioned in the video. :) All Ducatis use the same oil filter. The wrench can be purchased online, just Google for 'Ducati Filter Wrench'. Alternatively eBay got them for sale, too.
Great video, very helpful! Did you notice your old filter was taller than the new (replacement) filter? Also, the manual should say 3.1 litres not 3.1 quarts. Small difference. Never get the full 3.1 litres in there anyway...2.5 to 2.8 litres is about all it will take (due to residual oil?).
Awesome! Thanks for the video. I've been wanting to change my oil on my own and now I know how to do it. I lost my manual but what is the recommended amount of oil that should be put in? Also what oil weight should be used?
@slntdth42 Since it was the first 1000km oil change how did you get rid of the service signal light? I had to ride my to the dealer to turn off that signal light.
@rejneesh It is the first oil change as per schedule (600 miles / 1000km). This is a must do maint item, mainly to clean out the majority of the break-in debris (metal shavings) from the oil.
Hi Ut tang- i bought 2014 ducati monster 696 right now it is almost 520 mile on it- is it really necessary to do full service or just change oil. Because Dealer wants to do full services. it cost $350, and there is other thing -how you took maintains sign off from the meter? - I need your advise ASAP-
other things - correct torque is absolutely necessary - anything to do with bearings for example as you are actually setting the bearing preload - eg, swingarms (esp SSS) head set steering bearings, and absolutely anything to do with the engine proper of course - timing gear assembly, head stretch bolts etc... but oil plugs, even spark plugs etc... just need to be nipped up and absolutely not cross-threaded or have the threads stripped.... if you can achieve that... job done!
Crush aluminum washer deformed slightly when torqued down to provide good seal. It's probably can be reuse once or twice, but since they costs $1 a piece, there's no good reason to risk leaking to save 2 bucks.
@Deadpoetic6 Actually one more person commented: "FYI everyone, on the 2010 they changed the drain plug. Its a 12 mm bolt with a 5mm Allen head. Even easier to strip! Could not find a torque value. Even my dealer had no clue. Tight is good I guess." So look for that. :)
very helpfull and very clear! Let's change my monster's oil for the first time now.... well, not exactly now, it's a little late evening, but... this weekend, old oil you're dead! ;)
FYI everyone, on the 2010 they changed the drain plug. Its a 12 mm bolt with a 5mm Allen head. Even easier to strip! Could not find a torque value. Even my dealer had no clue. Tight is good I guess.
not really. it's a drain plug... but be aware that it is an aluminium thread u are screwing into.... so follow spark plug package instructions... screw it in to it's finger tight, then no more than 1/8th-1/4 of a turn to tighten.... just don't over tighten... it will be fine. use a new crush washer, as it will lock the thread from unscrewing and will make a good seal. the original one if torqued to spec, esp 40nm+ will be crushed... get a newie... and u can reuse that one a few times.. good luck
Good video. Nice viewing angles. You weren't using your torque wrench as a breaker bar where you? That is a quick way to pull it out of calibration. Was that 10w30? The Monster should us 15w50 if you can. Here is a link to a free shop manual from Ducati www.ducatiusa.com/services/maintenance/index.do . 10w30 is okay if you have fairly mild summers and great for winter. The upper number can be thought of as your hot temp protection. This isn't to say you ever want to go with a number bigger than the manufacturer recommends, but the number basically decreases with heat cycles and time. So, it is better to start off with the recommended number if you can. Anyhow, great video overall. Thanks for sharing!
f*cking ducati particulars! i was about to do my oil change, but i just learned that i have a 11mm dry plug to empty engine. i got it no in my keys.. so i'm gonna wait 'til i buy a new set.. for doing also screen cleaning, 14mm are you kiddin' me?! it's just insanely big
I watch this every time I change the oil in my 696. Great job. You are what makes RUclips great!
Thanks UT.
For those with M796, the 5 mm hex drain plug torque should be about 15 ft-lb (20 nm), not the 42 nm stated in the Ducati service manual.
The oil volume needed is also not the 3.7 liters per manual with filter replaced. Fill just to the high mark on the sight glass with the bike up right, start the bike up and let it idle for 3 min, turn the bike off, wait 10 min, then check level. Repeat the steps until the oil level is between the high and low marks with the bike upright.
Thanks for the videos brother! I am now the current owner of this bike! Nearly 5000 miles on it now :-)
I really enjoyed your clear instructional video and would like to see more maintenace videos from you in a playlist. Thanks.
That's a good point, and the filter is straight up and down, it's very easy to fill. If the filter is full, oil will get to the heads quicker. I have an '79 ducati darmah, and the filter is upside down under the right side carb, in my case I can't fill the filter. Cheers, Rob
where can i buy the drain plug and screen filter plug crush washers?
@88wingnut
Mmm... IIRC filters were identical. There's only one filter model Ducati use I believe. And I wouldn't worry abt the oil amount unless the difference is > 0.5 L. Just make sure it's at about the right level when you check the oil window.
Thanks a million! I'm doing my first oil change on my Monster today, and found this invaluable -- cheers! Good riding.
Thanks for the video. I have a 2011 Monster 696 thats due. The dealer has long wait for oil change so thanks to your vid I will do it myself.
If you ever change out your battery please post a video. Thanks. James (Lakeland FL.)
I really suggest keeping the drain plug off while removing the filter. Removing the filter changes the pressure in that area of the motor and can cause some oil to run out into the crankcase. You may have a small amount of oil rush down to your plug when you remove the filter but you already have the plug tightened, making the oil change less effective.
I respect the way you care for your bike. I noticed your frame sliders. What brand are they and where did you buy them. PLEASE keep sending out the great 696 videos.
Great video.. FYI, on the S4 2002 the filter crush washer is 20mm, also LO for an 05 R6 is 14mm. For the oil screen washer, I have yet to measure it or find it. The screen washer I got from Advanced auto parts, Labeled M14 and M20 and it was about 3 buck for 3, they are copper to which I believe seals better. If you know size of the oil screen, post it but have not matched one yet at an autoparts.
Very nice, thanks for taking the time to film and post it!
Second 'filter' is a screen to keep metal particles from entering the oil pump. It just needs to be cleaned once in a while. But it's so easy to do that I would just do it every oil change anyway.
@Deadpoetic6 Sorry I'm not sure what the new 2011 model looks like. But there should be some sort of plug at the lowest point of the engine case. May not take a 10mm allen key, but may take something else. Good luck.
The service manual says 3.1 Qt. I used a little less than 3 Qt. So I think buying 3 Qt should suffice.
Make sure you use motorcycle-specific oil. Automobile oil has friction modifier that doesn't work well with wet-clutch on the 696. I use full synthetic 10W-50 but 10W-40 or 15W-40 or 15W-50 will all work just fine.
@mike148r You'll probably have to redo that oil change. :( Make sure:
1) you are using the right filter, probably so, since Ducati really have only one filter, I think
2) Clean the filter mount on the engine with rag so that no dirt can get between your filter seal and the mount surface.
3) Did you oil the O ring on the filter before you twist it on? Dry seal could cause some leak.
That's all I can think of. Good luck.
was this just for the engine oil??? I mean, what was the second filter for, I thought all you need to do is replace oil filter at the bottom(the black thing that looks like a can)???
Great video... very helpfull
Here in Brazil i can't find the oil filter or the o-ring seal.
You know any store that sell these products to Brazil? My Monster is with 500km and i realy need..
That's the factory termi kit (+race ECU and air filter). And yes, I love the sound. :)
The service symbol needs to be cleared by your dealer. I don't know of any other way.
Hex keys were 10 and 14mm. It's also mentioned in the video. :) All Ducatis use the same oil filter. The wrench can be purchased online, just Google for 'Ducati Filter Wrench'. Alternatively eBay got them for sale, too.
Great video, very helpful!
Did you notice your old filter was taller than the new (replacement) filter?
Also, the manual should say 3.1 litres not 3.1 quarts. Small difference. Never get the full 3.1 litres in there anyway...2.5 to 2.8 litres is about all it will take (due to residual oil?).
THANK YOU! I have an '03 620ie and I had no clue as to the size of the crush washers.
@slntdth42 thats cuz youre not supposed to torque it down better to strip the head of the bolt then then oil pans threads. its like 6-8 ft lbs
Awesome! Thanks for the video. I've been wanting to change my oil on my own and now I know how to do it. I lost my manual but what is the recommended amount of oil that should be put in? Also what oil weight should be used?
why did you replace the washers? is it required or did you do it just to be safe?
Thanks a lot. I'm getting ready to attempt my first oil change on my 2010. How often do yoi recommend changing the crush washers?
@slntdth42 Since it was the first 1000km oil change how did you get rid of the service signal light? I had to ride my to the dealer to turn off that signal light.
Yes i did everything that you said but it also has a hard time starting sometimes with low fuel and leaks then. Do you have the same problem????
@rejneesh It is the first oil change as per schedule (600 miles / 1000km). This is a must do maint item, mainly to clean out the majority of the break-in debris (metal shavings) from the oil.
Great tutorial! Thanks for sharing.. about to do my first oil change on my 696
I had metal shavings I found on my drain plug but this dont seem right to have them in the oil?
Where did you get the OEM ducati filter, crush washers for drain bolt and screen?
Fantastic video! You make it look trivial :) Well appreciated.
How much cost to change oil and breaks to 2013 ducati monster 696
Hi all,
I have a 2011 monster and i the 10mm drain plug dont seem to be there! Is the drain plug the one below the oil screen plug??
Thanks! Doing my first oil change this spring!
What size torque wrench does the Duc require?
Hi Ut tang- i bought 2014 ducati monster 696 right now it is almost 520 mile on it- is it really necessary to do full service or just change oil. Because Dealer wants to do full services. it cost $350, and there is other thing -how you took maintains sign off from the meter? - I need your advise ASAP-
other things - correct torque is absolutely necessary - anything to do with bearings for example as you are actually setting the bearing preload - eg, swingarms (esp SSS) head set steering bearings, and absolutely anything to do with the engine proper of course - timing gear assembly, head stretch bolts etc...
but oil plugs, even spark plugs etc... just need to be nipped up and absolutely not cross-threaded or have the threads stripped.... if you can achieve that... job done!
having trouble with a 2010 monster, is draing plug in the center??
Crush aluminum washer deformed slightly when torqued down to provide good seal. It's probably can be reuse once or twice, but since they costs $1 a piece, there's no good reason to risk leaking to save 2 bucks.
This is a GREAT video. Thank you very much for sharing it with us.
Hey dude i have a problem with my filter it leaks how can i stop that i tightened it hand tight but it still leaks
plz help thanks
Where can I buy these tool and the consumables in Thailand ?
Thank you Friend! This is great video as well as great oil change technique!
have you ordered crush washers online?
What kind of oil and filter do you use?
@Deadpoetic6 Actually one more person commented:
"FYI everyone, on the 2010 they changed the drain plug. Its a 12 mm bolt with a 5mm Allen head. Even easier to strip! Could not find a torque value. Even my dealer had no clue. Tight is good I guess."
So look for that. :)
very helpfull and very clear!
Let's change my monster's oil for the first time now.... well, not exactly now, it's a little late evening, but... this weekend, old oil you're dead!
;)
Hi Ut, do you still own this bike?
Great video!!
FYI everyone, on the 2010 they changed the drain plug. Its a 12 mm bolt with a 5mm Allen head. Even easier to strip! Could not find a torque value. Even my dealer had no clue. Tight is good I guess.
Thank you for a great video. 10mm, 14mm allen socket. -Off to Sears!!!
Awesome video, thanks for sharing.
Thank you. Beautifully made and thoughtful.
@camatt2989 Look up cacycle they have the crush washers but not listed online. Call in for them, $1 a washer.
Thanks for the video!
thanks man !! good video helpful
so helpful, thank you
not really. it's a drain plug... but be aware that it is an aluminium thread u are screwing into.... so follow spark plug package instructions... screw it in to it's finger tight, then no more than 1/8th-1/4 of a turn to tighten.... just don't over tighten... it will be fine. use a new crush washer, as it will lock the thread from unscrewing and will make a good seal. the original one if torqued to spec, esp 40nm+ will be crushed... get a newie... and u can reuse that one a few times.. good luck
Good video. Nice viewing angles. You weren't using your torque wrench as a breaker bar where you? That is a quick way to pull it out of calibration. Was that 10w30? The Monster should us 15w50 if you can. Here is a link to a free shop manual from Ducati www.ducatiusa.com/services/maintenance/index.do . 10w30 is okay if you have fairly mild summers and great for winter. The upper number can be thought of as your hot temp protection. This isn't to say you ever want to go with a number bigger than the manufacturer recommends, but the number basically decreases with heat cycles and time. So, it is better to start off with the recommended number if you can. Anyhow, great video overall. Thanks for sharing!
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f*cking ducati particulars! i was about to do my oil change, but i just learned that i have a 11mm dry plug to empty engine. i got it no in my keys.. so i'm gonna wait 'til i buy a new set.. for doing also screen cleaning, 14mm are you kiddin' me?! it's just insanely big
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