Nothing Fails Like Bible History 10: Joshua, Jericho, & Genocide
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- Опубликовано: 9 июн 2021
- Did the story of Jericho really happen? Did Joshua actually destroy Jericho and invade Canaan, or is the Biblical conquest of Canaan actually true? Is the Bible historical? If not, how much of the Bible is true and how much of the Bible is myth or legend. In this episode of Nothing Fails Like Bible History, discover just how much of the Biblical story of the conquest of Canaan is fact, supported by archaeology, and how much is fiction - either debunked or unsupported by the archaeological evidence.
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Some of my sources:
Falk's Response to Associates for Biblical Research: • Reviewing "Exodus Redi...
Falk's video on Jericho: • Jericho: The Latest Re...
Nigro's 2019 Lecture on Jericho:
History channel video on Finkelstein and Silberman's research: • Bible Unearthed Discov...
Vice News - Inside the Battle for Jerusalem: • Inside the Battle for ...
Nigro's recent paper on Jericho: www.academia.edu/41702471/The...
Another useful paper by Nigro on Jericho: www.academia.edu/25315245/TEL...
Interview with Israel Finkelstein: • Episode Six: The Conqu...
William Dever's lecture: • William Dever - The Ex...
The Ask Project - Jewish Settlers: Why do you steal Palestinian land?: • Jewish Settlers: Why d...
The Ask Project - Israelis: Do you see non Jews as equal to you?: • Israelis: Do you see n...
Ted Wright's (with the Associates for Biblical Research) Epic Archaeology Video: • Arrow Points #6 - Did ...
Other useful links:
David Ilan | How Ancient Israel Began: A New Archaeological Perspective: • David Ilan | How Ancie...
Ayelet Gilboa | The Rise of Ancient Israel and Other Problematic Entities: • Ayelet Gilboa | The Ri...
William Propp - What Was The Exodus?: • William Propp - What W...
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In my initial email with Dr. Lorenzo Nigro I asked if he had found evidence that the walls of Jericho were rebuilt after 1550 BCE and destroyed again in 1200 BCE, or if there was simply a small unwalled settlement on the site from 1550 BCE onward?
Lorenzo Nigro's response: "The problem is not if we have city-walls for the Late Bronze (which is yes) but if you can provide evidence or even proof that Joshua did exist in historical reality (which is not, up to now), and that the Biblical account is not a mythological reconstruction of the history of the Israelites."
My followup: "Does the Late Bronze Age wall you're referring to date to the late 13th and early 12th century or is it from earlier? Do you know when it was destroyed?"
LN: "This point is under study and further investigation on the field is needed."
You do realize a proper use of the biblical timeline shows that the exodus would have taken place in the 16th century bc. More specifically 592 years before the building of solomons temple. 592 + 967= 1559 bc. Battle of jericho being fought forty or so years after. Meaning the date for the destruction of jericho actually does line up with the biblical timeline
Watch the movie Patterns of Evidence: Exodus. They have an incredibly strong argument, using archaeological evidence, that the timeline is completely off. While they say there is no evidence for semitic presence in Egypt for the Exodus, there is actually strong evidence for a semitic presence in Egypt some hundreds of years prior. However, since it doesn't fit the historical narrative, (which in and of itself is in doubt) this is not presented or understood as evidence for the Exodus. However, when you look at the actual archaeological evidence, and say, what if we were to consider if this is the Israelites prior to the Exodus, what is found matches up incredibly well. However, anyone is free to spout whatever they want on the internet in support of their own assumptions and preconceptions. This is for consideration, as this film was deeply researched, and actually lines everything up nicely, straight through Canaan as a single story.
Excellent video, as always. Thank you for making me curious about history and the stories that I was told as a kid.
So Nigro confirms a 13th century destruction site at walled Jericho and you're hanging onto the fact that it's not been yet specifically verified to the *late* 13th century? ROFL. Also, great job showing a clip of Nigro talking from a 2019 video about his preliminary date results and blatantly ignoring the fact that his 2020 paper asserts a 13th century date. Though you did post a comment on your videos days later admitting your failure on this point, but of course, the number of people to read this correction versus those who just watch the video (or already have) is irrelevant. This is just blatant misinformation on your part, poisoning the conversation.
Also, Falk debunked you in a response dude. Yes, that's the same guy you lied was a creationist.
Holocaust denier.
Imagine Moses slugging through the desert for 40 years, then arrive in Promiseland and it's another Egyptian province!
God: We do a little trolling
@@randyandy98 Fitting since God's Mesopotamian version Enki/Ea is not only God of Water and Wisdom, the Creation of Man, the planet Earth, everything associated with God, but also mischief.
@@autobotstarscream765 so like middle eastern Loki?
@@leonieromanes7265 Kind of, not to mention Odin the All-Father himself was also known to be a little mischievous, as well as for dying on a tree and rising again and having a son, Baldur, who died by the nail of the tree (Loki's mistletoe dagger) and rose again as the only living god after the gods died in Ragnarök...
@The Matrix You seem to have confused a literary discussion of narrative texts at face value as stories with a discussion of whether or not they're actually historical fact. 😅
If "God" can harden peoples hearts, then he could soften them too. But, apparently, he prefers to watch people suffer & be murdered in His name.
"but he loves them " 😂
It sure does seem that way. The shithead pulled the same crap on the Egyptians as well.
Very good point. I get the “but it was the Old Testament and we can’t hold god accountable for stuff in the OT” excuse a lot.
I Know Right? Almost like god is the biggest douche ever...
because this is before the Israelites had contact with Zoroastrianism, religion that created the concept of free will, yeah its not a original christian idea
(sorry bad English)
I remember being suspended from my middle school years ago, because I called the bible 'bronze age mythology'. I feel avenged...
Coming from a super religious country call Iran this is funny and sad at the same time! I thought U.S or western countries in general were different lol
@@araimm227 There was more to the story I did not share. This was MANY years ago. Just under 20 years ago, in-fact. The girl I was in an argument with, whom I said this to was also the vice-principle's daughter. Because I was at such a young and impressionable age, the incident in question made me very sour towards religion of all kinds for a long time.
That sounds incredibly illegal since it amounts to you getting suspended based on your personal beliefs relating to religion. Not saying it didn't happen, just that it really sucks and I wish you would have gotten the proper help you needed to take all of those fuckers down
Holy shit, where do u live that a school could do that to you???
@@adamgardiner5869 It was a public school in southern California. I know that sounds surprising... but California in those times wasn't the paradise of liberalism it is now. There were still pockets of intense religious conservatives back in those days. I was unfortunate enough to live in one such 'nice' area at the time. Tho I think it speaks to just how powerless the average student was in the face of school administration in those days. As I understand it, they would have a really tough time getting away with the shit they used to pull on me nowadays. I guess a lot has changed in the face of two decades.
'That's a necessary evil' - Anyone else hear the same argument as slavery apologists?
More often than not I hear them say that it was the culture of the time to have slaves so it's ok.
@rtu9734 I agree, but that's still how they'll try to justify it
Taking everything into consideration, does anyone question why jew$ are so h@ted throughout history, if even 1%of this is true. BTW they are still doing this stuff they say is ‘written’.
A nun at the Catholic Church I attended years ago said "The Bible is not a science book." She advocated teaching evolution and explaining the Bible as a guide to living a spiritual life. We are talking about a woman who dedicated her life to serving God and even she knows the Bible is not a book of facts.
She must have been a Sister of St. Joseph. That order sees knowledge as power and seeks to educate.
That is also the Orthodox perspective in Orthodox Greece but Americans have a Protestant background and even many American converts to Orthodoxy are influenced by the literalism of sola scriptura (presumably they are not reading anything else). The parables and other stories from the Gospels have value in understanding Judea at the time of Christ, they reflect what Christians believed people in Judea believed at that time but living as a Christian is about empathy, forgiveness and social responsibility - in the model of Jesus Christ and the Saints and Church. Passages from the scriptures are read during liturgy when they have some edifying content, seen as inspiring or motivational, not as actual history, let alone as a substitute for science!
Also In the catholic Church, I attend that believe more in science then the Bible which surprise me but at the same time it’s obvious that some religious denominations and churches are more science oriented then believing the Bible 100%
Heck I am a catholic and I know what the Bible says is not within history I hell my favorite saint is the one who takes care of the animals Saint Francis mostly because I love my cat but just because I like that specific saint doesn’t mean I don’t take him to the vet I just fined it curious how many people use religion in religious figures for their hate when it’s possible do the opposite and not hate
Yep. My best friend is a catholic priest and was very open about the Bible being scientifically and historically incorrect. It never shook his faith
So glad to know all of those "loving" genocides which God brags about in the Bible didn't actually happen! Thanks, Holy Koolaid!
oh they happened in the name of god by the god lovers from europe when they invaded the Americas. millions killed, mostly women and children like most genocide is .
@@krono5el Agreed. Those were horrific! But, at least there weren't as many genocides happening in God's name as the Bible says there were.
You guys have literally no idea what you’re talking about
I’m not sure what point either the channel is trying to get you to go with on, with a clear basis or if this lady is happy God didn’t let ppl die in a certain way... either way they died..which way is preferred or is mr. Koolaid just looking to talk about meh
@@alexanderhanksx why?
I just can't imagine how can someone believe that these ancient stories as real history. I am an atheist and come from a Hindu background and there is a proper history of the world according to Hinduism too but I never believed them even when I was a devout Hindu because those tales are so unrealistic that they just can't be true no matter what.
You are one of the smart ones, too many Hindus nowadays are following this stupid trend of taking their religious books literally like the Christians,Jews and Muslims
It is amazing what people will believe when there is a paycheck for it.
What do Hindu believe?
@@undrwatropium3724 Brahman is the ultimate reality...Lord Khrshna and Shiva are manifestations of god...the philosophy is beautiful but it gets weird when gods have 4 arms
@@anatorres-ym8ke - lol, the beginning is good!
The Lord sure hardened a lot of hearts back in the day so as to create an excuse for plagues and war... Pharaoh (repeatedly), Pharaoh's army (who didn't want to pursue the fleeing Jews until God changed their minds), and now the Hivites (6:29). Yet Christians always insist that God gave us "free will".
God: *gives people free will*
People: *choose to not use their free will to be terrible people*
God: "Wait, you weren't supposed to do that"
God: I give people free will
People: We have a problem can we talk?
God: Oh no, they are not killing each other... let me take away their free will and harden hearts to force them to fight.
People: My heart tells me not to agree with you we must fight and kill each other
@@hunterthenurseshark1596 and also 'god' didn't see it coming..
The Old Testament god was a war god in the Israeli pantheon before they elevated him over all other gods. So all the war, war crimes and genocide is perfectly logical, as is his jealous nature, he needed to keep is worshipers from defecting to other gods. From the ten commandments: "Thou shalt have no other gods before me". That quite clearly demonstrates that there where "other gods"
@@OscarSommerbo it is telling that the commandment don’t say to not worship False Gods.
As a trained archaeologist who dabbles in the region and time period for fun (but works mostly later), I cannot thank you enough for this series.
what do you do as an archeologist?
@@dannysanchez7217 Currently doing my PhD, which turned out to be mostly archive and museum perousal. Roman era to be precise, but early Judaism (Judea, Egypt, Arabia and Rome) is included. And I like the field of (serious) Biblical archaeology, I did some work on early Jewish shrines and synagogues. Right now writing a paper on Romans in the Indian Ocean, which includes some pretty cool information about early Jewish communities in Himyar (Yemen) and India. :)
@@Apankou If you had to simplyfy it the best you could, how do you determine how old something is?
@@dannysanchez7217 That's a simple question with a complicated answer (this is a long one).
One option is good ol' stratigraphy, just as geologists do, but we do it at a centimetre scale, establishing a sequence of which layer with which finds comes on top of which, to see how the use of a site changed, how long it was occupied, which assemblage of finds always appears after another assembly etc. This establishes a sequence, but for the time being without a date. Sometimes, known natural events end a site's sequence, which can be dated securely: the ash layer covering Pompeii in 79 AD, or the tsunamis deposits on the Cretan shore on 1619 BC. Obviously, all objects found in Pompeii we now know to be in use around 79 AD: the style of wall painting, the pottery, the glass and metal objects, the jewellery, the way people wrote letters at the time in graffiti on the walls.
Relative dating links specific objects or styles, e.g. in pottery, or art, and it depends on cross-references. I.e., a statue clearly bearing the inscription of a known ruler or a relief on a building of which we know the builder, or coins bearing names and the exact year of a ruler's name help establishing connections with the stuff they're found in the same layer with and so-called termini post quem, i.e. the building cannot be younger than a coin found underneath it, Attic red-figure follows after Attic black-figure because it's an innovation in technology etc. The Eyptian chronology is largely relative, because we have lists of Pharaohs and how long they reigned, but it is difficult to relate them to other better known chronologies like the conquest of Egypt by Alexander (the discussion is about a couple of decades only though, which is only relevant in some contexts). Athens had lists of archons (leading magistrates), as Rome did have of consuls, which is how they counted years, and those lists can be cross-referenced thanks to inscriptions or text references, they can be compared to, say, the calendar of the Olympiad, which also runs uninterrupted for a long time, and if we find an Indian inscription by Ashoka mentioning a specific Greek Seleucid ruler, we know that Ashoka and him apparently ruled at the same time. Chinese sources mention an embassy to their emperor from a certain Da Qin ("big China") in the west, whose emperor's name was Andun, which is linguistically clearly shown to be the Latin Antoninus, which can only be either M. Antoninus Pius or Marcus Aurelius Antoninus, so we can date the only known contact between Rome and China to c. 138-180 AD, but the Chinese sources themselves have a much more detailed chronology from their side, so we need to work together.
Absolute dating uses scientific methods: radioactive decay (mostly 14C because the time span it works in fits archaeology really well, but it needs original organic material; there are other decays we can use), glacial core drilling (for events that had an impact on the atmosphere, for instance we see the increase in Roman lead production in Greenland ice), sedimentary and pollen analysis (if 14C dated and stratigraphically analysed, this allows reconstruction of the vegetation and agricultural use of a landscape, and the onset of specific aquatic or marine microorganisms shows flooding, submerging etc.), luminescence (basically showing when a piece of stone or pottery was last exposed to intense heat (i.e., when a vessel was fired) or cosmic radiation (i.e., when a stone was buried), dendrochronology (counting tree rings in a piece of wood, like a ship or roof timber, and establishing how old the tree was when cut). Except for dendrochronology and other methods based on actual yearly growth (peat bogs are another), all these scientific methods come with date ranges around a probability, the size of which depends on the quality and size of the sample, preservation conditions, contamination etc.
All those methods are constantly cross-checked against each other and chronologies do get revised. I cannot remember a massive, important revision happening in my field in the past decades, but these debates are a large part of archaeology (a bit more so than history, which tends to accept dates from texts a bit more). For instance, people have worked tirelessly to combine thousands of oak samples from sites all over Europe to work out a complete sequence of oak growth rings over a couple thousand years. They essentially work like barcodes due to the climate influencing their width (crucially, only on a regional level though), and you can now try and match any piece of oak you find in Europe to the master sequence to see where it fits in. Since they are wood samples, they are also 14C dated - in fact, 14C itself gets recalibrated regularly, because the 14C decay is not uniform, by applying 14C dating to wood samples of *known* age which link up to currently living trees.
Personally and for the kind of work I do, I'm okay with dates of about ~30 years insecurity when researching societies 2000 years ago. Historians are much more interested in concrete political events, so they sometimes fight bitterly over the date of a crucial inscription, and obviously this is also why alleged Biblical events are so much contested. The fact that archaeology/material culture differs massively in its boundaries and developments from political/written history was a huge theme in late 20th and 21st century historical research. We have done away with interpreting single impressive finds as "this must have been this famous guy's work" or "this must be linked to this famous story in Tacitus" etc. Biblical archaeology, to my dismay, still loves to do that, for instances the alleged stables of Solomon. Archaeology prefers to answer questions about people's lives, population dynamics, social history etc. Classics are lucky because we have so much rich written material, but in fields where you pretty much only have archaeology, like the stone age, or Mesoamerica, or Australia, the questions are much simpler, the picture much coarser, and the use of archaeology is both more sophisticated and more innocent, because it is not driven or encumbered by historical sources building expectations.
oof thats a big one. I'm a bit confused by the "coin younger than building if underneath" part. Wouldn't the coin be older?
Yes the abrahamic tribal war gods do like their genocide. Manifest destiny followed the blueprint of the Book of Joshua.
Native Americans had land stolen
'Cos god said so!!!"
..just like what happened to Palestinians
Thank you!
@@TD-np6ze bible history is as goofy as its followers in euro-america, the euro-americans love jesus but hate everyone from the jesus land. like wtf : P
@@krono5el it's worse!
For lack of more original terms:
Religion's have "Masculine Side"
Which is promise of eternal salvation for KILLING "Enemies" ; Being Killed in war
(Old Testament should be renamed
"How We Killed Our Neighbors!")
Y'know Religions LURE Followers with
"Feminine Side" of
FAUX Caring & Belonging because that nurturing protection ONLY IF Follow Their Rules in Lockstep!!!
IF god exists then a Sadistic Psychopath
@@TD-np6ze *Phonecians
@@autobotstarscream765 that's true!
Had seen recent video where
Archeological Research showed
Ancient Israelites really
Madmen from the Mountains
destroyed crumbling Phoenician States!!
but difference here is that
** Palestinians WERE Peaceful People**
Until Super-Powers decided that
"god wanted to take THEIR Land!!"
Even as a little kid I found it strange that Moses and his people got lost in the desert for so long
Hell the longest we got lost in the desert was a weekend peyote adventure.
(finds out that even more amusingly there was no need for an exodus in the first place.
Hebrews/Canaanites/Israelites/Whatever name fits the late Bronze Age never needed to migrate.
It's the Egyptians who were driven out of the region by rebellions or invasions.)
That is because it is all based on lies
Some assholes just won't ask for directions.
@@danweaver3901 not to mention the only way you’re gonna spend that much time in such a tiny corner is if you’re A) spinning in circles or taking constant detours, or B) spend most of that time… …not moving at all.
It « worked » for the odyssey after all.
There is a huge difference between 'I'll just press the record button and rant about something' kind of videos and the 'i'm going to make a spreadsheet tabulating my research while providing extensive sourcing and further evidentiary support' videos.
haha for sure, he puts some work into these, and it shows.
After seeing David Falk's video, I'm not so sure
The Dead Sea Scrolls have produced increasing evidence to cement the fact that Jesus Christ never existed and the whole story was cooked up at the First Council of Nicea in 325 AD.
Yeah this isn’t it. This is like a middle schooler’s take on scholarly inquiry. Get higher standards than “muh spreadsheets uwu”.
Those who can, do. Those who can't, criticize on RUclips.
So the Pharaoh wasn't the only one that got its heart hardened just so that God got a chance to show off, huh?...
Yep god just loves to show off and have people say wow how amazing you are...weird for a perfect being... but expected for a insecure narcissist...or the non-existent invention of insecure narcissists.
He prefers hard things. 🤭 clearly
@@spa-peggymeatballs4861 Hahahahaha yeah I guess he could harden any part of a body... (8
Pharaoh himself hardened his heart, God did it indirectly by the things he did. Pharaoh could chose to let the Hebrews go but God's actions caused him to remain stubborn so it was still his free will.
If you summon the courage to disobey God the first two times , he reserves the right to harden you
The entire bible sounds like a VERY tall tale to me. We humans have always loved making up stories.
A story coordinated over thousands of years
@@cedriceric9730 coordinated is a strong term. Amended and edited are more accurate.
@@cedriceric9730 LMAO, _comic books_ have more consistent continuity.
And they are pretty terrible stories in every way. We got much more fascinating myths and new fantasy and scy fy stuff. If people so desperately want to believe in some bullshit, they should at least chose something more positive.
I remember going on a field trip when I was younger where a Native American told us some of their tribe's creation type stories about why dogs have long tongues, or why chickens don't fly, among others. I remember thinking they were just magical stories for kids like Santa or the tooth fairy. Now that I'm deconstructing I realize that someone hearing Bible stories for the first time probably thinks the same thing. I don't know how I could have ever taken the Bible seriously.
And God called Moses to come forth but he came fifth and lost his beer money.
Ah yes the exodus from Egypt, we all know of the moment Moses used his beyblade to part the Red Sea
And that one time he made water gush out of a rock by hitting it with said blade... Kinda crazy how being stuck in the desert will make you trippy huh?
Moses’ beyblade? Seriously mate? Are you freaking kidding me? It was GOD’S BEYBLADE , the Lord gave it to Moses. Read your bible again..
Hmmm
How come scientists don't dare deny it happened?
@@cedriceric9730 kind of hard to deny a negative.
@@proculusjulius7035 but they attempt to explain it, all they need to say is it never happened
And thus they are defeated
Loving your new animation and production quality.
Just doing such an amazing job!
Thanks! Glad you like it.
I'm very sad about what is going on in Palestine and I can't imagine someone takes away my home "because god gave it to him"
It happened (edit: it was written about) repeatedly in the old testament if you can believe in all of that.
it is hard to imagine, and that's because it's far from the truth. except from some crazy religious individuals, no Israeli say God gave him that land, and most of them aren't even religious. I didn't expect this channel to take a political stance, I'm kind of disappointed.
Everything and everybody sucks in Israel AND Palestine. Hezbollah is continuing to try and start a war so Palestine is not innocent. I fully agree that Jews believing other people's property is their birthright is completely stupid.
@@Tb0n3 So do we actually know who really launches those rockets into Israeli territory? If we ask 'who benefits', they seem to do far more damage to the Palestinians than the Israelis.
Let me put it this way: if I were a Mossad operative, I wouldn't hesitate to launch a few rounds now & again, if it ultimately advanced my ideological / military goals.
And since the damn Qassams can be made about anywhere, there's really no telling who makes & launches them. Just slap on some green paint and start the finger pointing.
Yeah, in a normal civilisation the property is handed down to the family 🤔
I forgot that God also explicitly violated the Free Will of the tribes that the Israelites allegedly genocided so that they would have an excuse to commit said genocides, just like he did to Pharaoh Nameless the Whateverth.
Trash logic those tribes were pedophilic and sacrificed their youth to forbidden gods
@@blackadam6445 Pederasty was common in the Greco-Roman world, Canaanites (you may know the Phoenicians & Carthaginians better, both of whom were offshoots of Canaanite culture) didn’t share in that to my knowledge. There is evidence of child sacrifice, but this is also true for the Israelites (some earlier manuscripts of the story of Abraham & Isaac do not have an angel stopping Abraham from sacrificing his son to Yahweh). As for “worshiping forbidden gods,” do you advocate the extermination of everyone who doesn’t believe in your religion? Hindus? Pagans? Shintoists? If so, that’s just wrong.
@@blackadam6445 According to the people who themselves were proudly bragging (almost certainly falsely, admittedly) about murdering every man, woman, and child in hundreds of towns/cities in the name of their own God, when they didn't explicitly keep all the virgin girls (with no lower age limit given) as their own sex slaves.
And that's a non-sequitor from my point about how God explicitly had no problem violating Free Will to give his followers the opportunity to commit hundreds of acts of potentially unnecessary genocide, despite all the apologists who claim that the reason God doesn't make his presence known is because he doesn't want to violate the Free Will of non-believers and allow them to come to Him of their own volition despite allegedly coming down and personally talking to, negotiating with, and on at least one occasion literally wrestling with Jewish Prophets/Forefathers without apparently violating their Free Will. QED, if they were committing child sacrifices to the wrong gods (the "wrong gods" being the part that Yaweh objects to, going by his prior, current, and future actions at that time), then it was entirely because Yaweh *chose* to not let them know He was the real god and *chose* not to meddle with their Free Will before they could kill some of their children (before Yaweh's Chosen People came around and brutally slaughtered *all* of their children).
@@matthewodonnell6906 God loves all his children even feeble opponents like you, Matthew. I don’t advocate anything other than a relationship with Jesus Christ. All the other stuff you said was hate that you made in your head
@@lnsflare1eventually there will be no more time for rebuttals. I really like the gospel according to Mark (KJV) just try it ya dosser.
One of the biggest problems is that the earliest versions of Hebrew didn't have a written form. The stories featured in the Old Testament were handed down orally for generations before the means existed to write them down, so it goes without question that they were heavily embellished before they ever made it to the page.
When I was very young my parents bought me a bible complete with colourful illustrations. To me, at the time, it was the most boring and hard to understand book of fairy tales I'd ever seen. It was kind of a shock when I realized that these were supposed to be true stories and that people actually believed them. How was someone turning into a pillar of salt any more believable than magic beans? Adults sure were stupid.
I read a woman say she became an atheist by her parents giving her books of myths and the bible. They never told her the bible was supposed to be real. So she considered it nothing but a book of Middle Eastern myths, no different from the Greek myths.
@@nothanks6549 - Congrats. Early indoctrination is hard to shake.
@@nothanks6549 I got lucky and learned to read early, so I'd been vaccinated against Young Earther bullshit by National Geographic before they got a shot at me.
The same reason why believing that everything is done by complete, random chance is less believable than the universe being created?
After all, what insane person believes everything came about exactly as it is by pure chance? That requires a level of faith no human being is truly capable of having.
I was desperate for fairy tales to be real as a child, so when my parents told me these less-interesting fairy tales were real, I absolutely ate it up.
It’s always a good day when Holy Koolaid posts 🧡
Everybody gangsta until Dr. Faulk pulls out popcorn😊
@@AlexTorres-qv3hv Yes the great Dr Falk
He proves he can talk and eat popcorn at the same time
Very impressive for a theologian
I guess if you enjoy watching a novice utterly humiliate himself
@@alexandria1663 You mean the great Egyptologist Dr Falk, I *HOLY* agree with you.
@@fordprefect5304 exactly wtf does “theologian” mean to you? I’m genuinely curious if you know what that word means. There are atheist theologians. It’s an academic field of study like any other. Imagine saying “impressive for a geologist” or “impressive for an archeologist”lol. Also not sure if you know what “novice” means, as a person with three masters degrees and a PhD are by definition not novices in their field(s) of study. You sound as uninformed as this guy trying to label him a creationist when he’s not. You’re apparently emotionally attached to a provably unreliable source but you and this channel deserve each other.
I love how you totally demolish the pathetic claims these apologists make to defend their belief and pretend there is evidence despite all the evidence that completely contradicts them.
@@gregoryt8792 I've heard many try, including this Ivan, but quite frankly numerology is bullshit. You can select any arbitrary numbers or metrics and find patterns with them. People have done it for other books, but that doesn't prove other any other gods exist either. It's little better than when people go "illuminati confirmed" when people see triangles on things.
Even if I were to take it at face value that there were actual designed patterns that weren't from arbitrary metrics, that still doesn't prove the contents true one bit. No more than if a mathematician were to include a bunch of patterns in a book about aliens.
@@gregoryt8792 Allow me to demonstrate:
World War 2 was from 1939 to 1945. 1+9+3+9+1+9+4+5=41. Hitler murdered and slaughtered ~10000000 people in the holocaust. That's 1 with 7 digits after it. Adding the 1 to 41 we get 42 which is 7x6.
Combining with the 7 digits we get 7 6 7. God's number is 777 and man's / the devil's number is 666.
This number pattern is proof that Hitler is literally God with the devil inside, hence the God numbers surrounding the devil/man numbers. The odds of this being coincidental are 1/
@@gregoryt8792 actually critics showed the Panin's method could be used on any publication and come up with "profound" statements.
The problem is that the evidence does no such thing.
I’m going to just drop Egyptologist Dr. Falk’s response to this video right here.
ruclips.net/video/FNuqXS_HbVY/видео.html
Who needs a devil with such a god.
Exactly.
And lo, the man said unto some random Palestinian woman:
“If I don’t steal your house, someone else will”
And god said that it was good.
You win or lose your land
Stealing land is what Zionist do
@@fortunatomartino8549 crazy idea, but how about instead of all the killing, loss, ridiculous arguments about who’s religion is less stupid, we just skip all that and talk it out like we’re going to have to do in the end anyway. Just with a lot fewer dead children.
@@Anglomachian I liked your comment! Any idea when ´´humanity´´ will reach to that point? (in years, centuries..)
@@nandinibandhini I can’t see us ever getting passed it. Things like religion, politics, sports, and other divisions of opinion appear to just be things we humans do. Or only hope is that enough of us don’t hold to the more extreme nonsense like this stuff in the video seriously enough to allow it to be relevant.
As someone who has always loved ancient history, and have also been raised in the church, this has validated what I have actually learned in following archeology (Egyptian mostly).
I was told my whole life that “secular” archeology was basically of the devil and that it wasn’t true.
There’s more to that than what I just said, but I think you can get the picture.
Every time I asked a question about the things in the Bible that didn't make sense I was told that doubt was from the devil. I was also told that dinosaur bones were put in the ground by the devil to confuse the doubters.
Thank you for doing this video man. Every time I hear people pointing out the atrocities throughout the Old testament and leaving out the Joshua nonsense I always find myself talking to the video, asking what about Joshua and the Jericho stuff and all that genocide? Kudos to you for doing this excellent piece thanks much.
Christians: "What do you mean the Bible can't just make a nonsensical timeline that in no way adds up with actual History!?💁🏼♂️"
From the Catholic perspective chronological accuracy is not that relevant, most of these OT stories were written hundreds of years after the stuff happened so mistakes will occur.
@@herodotus945 Except that the stories have been so thoroughly debunked that they are known to be purely fiction.
@@TheReaverOfDarkness so you deny the Babylonian empire, The Seleucids, king David, Roman occupation of Judea and two Kingdom period?
@@herodotus945 No, of course not. I denied stories which take place in those places and times.
David Falk debunked this video. Sorry dude.
When you build a religion around a story like Beowulf, you have to turn mammoth bones into dragons.
Why? What's wrong with fire-breathing mammoths?
Sounds like a fine story to me...
Curious about what software you use to make the animations? As a teacher, I'm interested in making some short animated videos for my students.
nevermind, I found it listed on your website
Good luck with your animation. :)
I feel the need to point out that flipacap is a free animation app
Post by Rex Memo
Marcus Aurelius - Philosopher Emperor.
"Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.
Sounds like a whole lot of common sense doesn't it?
except he never said that lmao
What's funny is when people point out the persistence of Canaanite culture and religion in the supposed post-conquest period, you'll have some apologists like Inspiring Philosophy claim "oh yeah well that's just like the Bible says, Israel was wayward." While missing the actual point entirely.
Israel was indeed wayward, the Mesopotamian God of Israel wanted them off the Ba'als and bowing to the Anunnaki, and the Israelites weren't bowing so the God of Israel ran them over with His iron chariot to get the point across.
To tell a good lie, you have to sprinkle a bit of truth
"It was ours to begin with, it was given to us by gawd"
Many conservatives use this "argument", yet I have to see *ONE* of then packing and giving the land back to the native Americans.
A problematic viewpoint in itself. I have yet to see how any "Native American" group can be honestly said to be a lick more "native" to these lands than any of us who're actually here. ...I might note that many wars and battles have occurred to bring us to the where we are today. "Native Americans" have no more cause for complaint than any other; they fought too.
@@johnflaherty9595 they did fight amongst themselves, doesn't excuse the sabotage, biological warfare, broken treaties, and cultural genocide(it was illegal to practice native American religions till the 1970's, for instance) that the American government did.
Your comment boils down to "might makes right", arguing that because the Natives were not saints, they cannot complain about having their culture crushed and descecrated, which is dumb on so many levels.
@@johnflaherty9595 Are you - fucking - kidding me?
What about the battles that happened in the middle east after the jews supposedly had that strip of land (it could very well be they never had it in the first place, just claimed) until other nations decided "you know what, we want to give this land back to the people who by their own book received it by muirdering, pillaging enslaving AND KILLING CHILDREN LEFT AND RIGHT!"
You, are a r*tard. No other way tpo put it.
@@the_last_ballad It's almost as if this doofus never read the book they use as justification and the fact they weren't settlers, they were conquerors.
Or that the tribes fought among themselves.
With people like him I'm pro birth control, he shouldn't be allowed to procreate.
@@the_last_ballad If anything, my comment aims to challenge preconceived notions about Justice and expose hypocrisy. Concerns about sabotage et al assume that the indians in question held to the same typical views as are most "proper" today. Or, I must believe that the indians Blade Runner referenced were innocent victims of racist, white settler oppression. ....It also assumes that we all must believe that all religious sentiments hold the same merit, ...and must all be subordinate to modern-day secular or progressive thought. NONE of these assumptions hold up.
If we truly believe that all men are created equal and we seek Justice, we must first understand what Justice IS, then seek to expose the errors of all groups of people. We can't merely settle for the typical diatribe that loves to condemn America for existing and not being happily secular progressive.
That book, 'Did The Old Testament Endorse Slavery' could be the shortest book in history. The contents could consist of one word: *YES!*
To write a shorter book you'd have to go with a title like, 'The Achievements Of President Donald Trump', which would of course, would be totally blank.
LMAO 😂
"That book, 'Did The Old Testament Endorse Slavery' could be the shortest book in history. The contents could consist of one word: YES!"
An equally short read would be the book titled: Did the godless *invent* slavery.
@daome2012 LOL. Red herring. God in the bible still states people are allowed to buy, keep, beat and inherit slaves, regardless of who invented it.
@@thevibe1013 "Red herring... regardless of who invented it."
Since the *inventors* of slavery are also responsible for the guidelines of how The master is to *treat* his slave, any "objection" from those who adhere to the *godless* ideology is pathetic... at best. Simple
@daome2012. Neither the old or new testaments forbid slavery- they both condone it. Simple. So keep prattling on about who invented it if you like, but it makes no difference because the bible is okay with it. Very simple.
I just love these videos; as, they literally debunk a tonful of mythical crap.
I wish you were able to post more. Just awesome content.
Always enjoy the content - keep up the amazing work!
By chance I happened to stumble across your channel and have been binge watching ever since. Keep spreading knowledge, brother! 👍🏾
I took your advise, a jahova witness stopped by. He asked the usual and I said I'm an "apostate " they said nothing and left. Thank you very much.
When JWs come knocking on my door, I ask if they're the folks who believe that only 144,000 souls are getting into Heaven. When they say yes, I ask how many people belong to their faith. When they answer that it's almost 9 million, I hit them with this: "Seems to me a WHOLE LOT of you guys are SHIT OUTTA LUCK." And that's when they leave. 😆
@@roy1701d bahahaha that's a good one Phil.
@Dani Hope OMG!!!! ROTFLMBAO 🤣
@@roy1701d from what I've heard, they don't believe they're going to heaven, they believe they'll inherit the Earth after humanity dies or something.
@@ghuttsmckenzie4269 yes after “God” commits another genocide, this time killing every non-JW so about 8 billion people
Good to see you Thomas.
Thanks for the new episode.
Aaaaand we're back at this series we love
Yes I'm constantly waiting for the next one, and am actually sad (and thrilled at the same time) when I'm finished watching, knowing it will take some time, before the next comes out. This was a great one too. As always.
"A perfect God, whose farts don't smell." You had me in stitches. But seriously you are doing such great, well researched and in-depth work that I cannot be grateful enough.
There was nothing "in depth" nor "researched" 🤣🤣🤣🤏🏽🧠
@@oneimpossibleguy1 I'll be waiting for your own in depth and well researched rebuttal of all that was said in this video.
As long as you hold your breath while you wait
@@oneimpossibleguy1 I guess I'll die waiting. No thank you. But thank you for proving my point.
@@thetruth9494 ours was the only point proven. Buhbye now little one. 👋🏽
I love how they want us to believe that God led these people away from the horrible Egyptian oppresors using magic........only to then command them to completely and utterly obliterate every single city they could find.
"Remember how you were opressed, but at least still alive? Yeah, i want you to do FAR worse than that to seemingly HUNDREDS of cities, only you do it in my name instead of the name of Egyptian Gods".
I haven't watched the whole video but it already gets a like due to "et tu Queen Elizabeth"!
Thank you so much for your videos. I know you made these a while ago, but I've been poring over them and taking embarrassingly copious notes. I appreciate so much your references in the description box. Keep it up, Thomas. --A fan
Nice bit of archeology first thing in the morning! 👍
Great array of guest stars too. I was not prepared for that! 😁
Thank you for doing these. They are the best!!!
As you implied by way of referencing, researchers have been highlighting these points for many years. Your contribution strengthens this particular position. Reality still is what it is. That is to say, less fantastical than we’d like to believe. Thanks for your contribution.
As this series continues, I wonder which parts of the bible are actually historically accurate? 🤔 Keep up the good work Thomas!
The page numbers are correct at least 😂
Not much we know characters like Ponce Pilates was heavily mischaracterized in the Bible. He’s shown as someone who kept trying to pacify the Jews, while historical records show he was recalled from Israel by Rome because he was making trouble and kept antagonize the Jews, and that’s from one of the books who you expect more historical accuracy since it was written only one or two generations after the events and not hundreds of years later.
None of it it is allegorical all of it is B.S
@@oliviawilliams6204
Not only that, Pilates was almost homicidal, no waste of time trying to get deals, just pushing criminals to death penalty without any remorse.
@@gregoryt8792
Now tell us that parrot's one that you learned, this one was hilarious!
“…who has a bachelor in archeology and a masters in mental gymnastics..” 😂 😂 😂
Both degrees obtained, 'earned', from relatively important schools of theology. And now he continues to spout his dangerous nonsense to upcoming youth. Better put HK on the syllabus for some Truth!
I've been curious about this part of the story. Glad you're taking this on. Also I'm getting kind of tired of everyone just talking about bloody genesis all the time. I knew there were more horrible things to learn and discuss.
Thanks! I love this level of detail. Wish I would have discovered this video long ago.
Channels like this one, and videos just like this, are what make learning fun for me.
I enjoy the animation of your videos it adds some humour to the message you bring out. Keep up the good work. Regards from England
You nailed it: Nothing fails like Bible history.
Sciences attemp at the theory of evolution does. 😂
@@user-gw7bs9up3lExplain how. At least in science a theorie stays a theorie or more if it's proven. With religion you just have to have faith that it's true.
Planning on taking back the claim that David Falk is a creationist?
Why would he? Out of curiosity what do you think of all the evidence contrary to the narrative you claim to believe in? Honest question.
@@kindafatguy4297 Dr. David Falk literally just did a rebuttal response video and shows all the mental gymnastic HK is going through to disingeniously make his case
@@kindafatguy4297 Because when someone says they aren't w creationist, you can safely bet your mortgage that they aren't one. What they ARE beyond that could be many different options depending, but if you mean a Young Earth Creationist, it's pretty easy to show when you aren't one.
Falk is a creationist. The guy literally said it himself in one of his interviews with BK apologist where he said “I’m a creationist myself”. Here’s a link to the video. He said he’s a creationist at 10:29.
m.ruclips.net/video/GK0CAdbhWKo/видео.html
@@vedinthorn here’s a video made a few months before this video where BK apologist interviews Dr Falk on Pattern of Evidence: Exodus. In the video, at 10:29, Dr Falk himself said that he had no problem with creationism and that he’s a creationist himself. Here’s a link to the video:
m.ruclips.net/video/GK0CAdbhWKo/видео.html
Huge congratulations on your extensive research and hard work!! Definitely, an excellent summary based on academic, scientific evidence... and common sense!
Attila the Hun caused 3 million Deaths,
Joshua to Attila: Hold my wine.
Genghis Khan to Joshua: Hold my Kumis
Love the set. Hope the books in the library are useful and scholarly.
But InspiringPhilosophy assured us that the Exodus story was totally true.
At least he did before he pulled his video. Dang.
Did anybody mirror that? I was interested in what he had to say.
@@danhoff4401 David Falk, who I mentioned in this video, actually did a scathing response to IP's video which is why Michael Jones removed his video. I wouldn't be surprised though if IP releases another updated video soon, though with a late date for the Exodus (which also has its problems) after working with Falk.
ruclips.net/video/sRoGcfFFPYA/видео.html
@@HolyKoolaid david Falk did a scathing review of this video as well. Funny you call him a fringe academic and a creationist when it isn't even remotely true.
@@HolyKoolaid, he did a more scathing response to your video right here.
At least Inspiring Philosophy has the courage to admit he made a number of mistakes and respectfully pull down the video. You still have the audacity to keep it up when given the information that we know as of right now.
Good to see another episode of this series!
Whoooooop, so on point!
Thanks for the information and the arguments(again)!
My Bullshit Light went on when I read that it took them 40 years to walk from Egypt to the promised land when it's only a 2 week journey by foot even if you don't have God as your GPS!
Anyone know what Matt Powell is up to these days. I've heard he's living it large with a giant inflatable banana.
There's always money in the banana stand.
Wasn't the banana, Ray Comfort's thing?
Comfort had a small hand-held banana. Powell has a much larger one.
@@HolyKoolaid I almost blue myself when I saw you make that reference.
I think that Jews comment about that poor woman’s home ‘if I don’t take it someone else will’, just about says it all. Geesssess!
Speaking as a person of faith, one doesn't have to be an Atheist to understand that those who wrote Old Testament texts had no concept whatsoever that they were writing something that would be regarded how modern people regard it.
of course as a careful Israeli historian I must admit that this so called conquest can also apply to the historical context and Israeli government's ethnic cleansing policy between 1948 to 1967
Or in present times?
Kia ora from New Zealand. I Almost died of Laughter when you said. GOD FARTS DON'T S SMELL 🤣🤣🤣
I remember apologetic books mentioning earthquakes destroying Jericho and attempting to connect it to the "historical" conquest of Jericho. They never mentioned the centuries of separation between the supposed conquest and the destruction.
Thank you for this video series. As a Christian recovering from fundamentalism, it is nice to be vindicated.
This Koolaids video is not making things any better… ruclips.net/video/FNuqXS_HbVY/видео.html
God gave us the ability to think, rationalize, and come to conclusions. No wonder so many people are finding this book to be full of inconsistencies.
I seriously get excited when I get a notification for a new Holy Koolaid video 🎉🎈🎉
Please do a debunking on Ron Wyatt!
I'm working on one, but in the meantime, episode 9 of this series debunked his claimed location for Sodom and Gomorrah.
Excellent stuff, my dude... As always!
The video editing is coming up in the world also very hilarious and informative too
Just freaking awesome research here. Thank you for doing it.
Governments have rewritten their histories since civilization began, so why should religious-minded archeologists be any different?
At least the Israeli scholars and archeologists have now admitted that there is absolutely no evidence that the Hebrew tribes were ever enslaved in Egypt, and that the much-touted Exodus actually never took place. Yet christian researchers typically ignore those findings.
The bible was kept true by Gods devine will
@@frankoramerez4536 well god couldn't hide facts.
Exodus never happened 😂😂
@@cedriceric9730 - And the Israelis ADMITTED it, which the christian leaders duly ignored!
This must have been a lot of work.. very well done 👍👍
The Old Testament feels like somebody with a pretty good understanding of history at the time sat down and interjected Hebrews/Israelites into every historical event they could think of and ended up with the Old Testament.
I was under the impression that Genesis and Exodus were written to account for the origins of the different tribes that lived in the area in order to fuse them into a single polity.
Didn't work, though, did it?
Bruh, I just liked seeing the queen shank Jules.
Subbing.
The Skyrim part killed me. Imagine someone just fus ro dah’ing your city walls to rubble
Also this entire thing supposedly took place right around the Bronze Age Collapse, so finding a bunch of destroyed cities isn't really surprising anyway...
Can we address another issue? Why would anyone want to believe in a God that ordered a genocide?
Especially after the same god gave commandments to his people telling not to kill or steal. Then he orders them to kill all Canaanites (women and children included) and steal their land.
I’m honestly at the point where, if I’m asked what I believe in I say fairies and goblins and when I’m ridiculed I just tell them I’ll believe my fantasies and they can believe theirs.
Yes! I've been waiting for this!!!!
Awesome work yet again!
What is really funny is you can compare non-existent Christian historical sites to Atlantis.
Plato described Atlantis in extreme detail and gave a detailed history of its founding and destruction. However, not only is Atlantis considered myth, pure fantasy and has never been found despite its extreme detail, when you look into the behind the scenes of Plato's writing you'll find massive evidence that he made it all up. Same thing with El Dorado and the Fountain of Youth.
If that's the case, then why do Christians believe so hard that their stories are true, when they clearly aren't?
Christian Jews and Muslims believe the stories of the old testament.
Just an fyi
Great video! 👏👏👏This makes me think of Bart Ehrman. When you dig deeper and look at all the facts without the bias, you just might completely change your mind!
Every single videos is so satisfying. It´s like watching Columbo :D
Just discovered this channel, time to stay awake all night binge watching lmfao
Has anyone seen Dr. Falks "rebuttal" video?
OK.
An almighty, all knowing and loving God, who created the universe in 6 days, flooded the earth, is not willing or able to give "his" people a peace of land without genocide, which it already practiced some times?
Um, yes, suuuure!
Is someone here who can treat this kind of mental state?
You do know that most Christians don't believe that the creation lasted literal six days right ? Catholics, Orthodox Christians, Copts, mainline Protestants etc., don't believe it. In case you did not noticed all those creationists are Evangelical Americans.
@@herodotus945 Some say only the people who believe every single word of the bible are true believers.
Well objectively you could call everyone else cherrypickers.
It's quite a dilemma.
@@RainerPeterFeller in catholic church it has always been a teaching that there are different ways to understand the Bible, from literally to allegorical. Bible is not one book but 73 books writen in different genres, a human interpretation of God's word.
@@herodotus945
A human make believe book used to justify any atrocity. ‘The voices in my head came from my god’.
@@curbroadshow anything can be used to justify anything, not just religion.
The one glaring fallicy in this video is that Queen Elizabeth has been around since the dawn of the universe. She very well could have met Caeser.
Hi Thomas, AKA Holy Koolaid! It's January 24, 2024 and I'm sure you have a bit of a knowledge of the past few months of sadness in Israel/Gaza! The ending of this video highlights the situation perfectly! I have purposely attempted to keep away from all news, and still it seeps in! I've been binge watching your series again. Take care, be well, Peace and Love from a friend in Canada H0H 0H0 ;)
It should all be Palestine really, most Palestinians seem to agree that the Jews that was there before 1960 can stay anyway.
Palestinians are pure blooded canannites ,the Bible was invented by the isrealites to justify colonization
If all the Canaanites were killed, why did the surname Kanaan survive in Lebanon?
They weren't all killed. If you keep reading, the conflicts between the Israelites and Caananites is neverending. Meaning, the Caananites are alive and well.
Thank you so much for your videos. Iv never been a believer never been to a Church a day in my life (other then weddings) but my whole life Iv been confused by how people believe this stuff. You have helped me see how and why some people just believe in nonsense.
“But then, this guy looks like a doctor.” 😀 Naughty Koolaid man!