I love digital because it's so portable and I could listen to it anywhere at anytime on my phone for example. I also love Vinyl because it's an experience. Much like going to a Movie Theater to watch a Movie instead of renting or going to a Restaurant to eat a special dinner instead of making dinner at home. I also love the physicality of the record (outer cover, artwork, etc), something you can hold in your hands. Both have their pros and cons. Still I love both.
GeoAl09 I can't remember where I heard it but someone described it as a "Japanese tea ceremony", where it doesn't make the tea taste any better, but that it enhances the experience.
Couldn't agree more! I always listen to the highest quality streaming possible on my phone but when I want to actually LISTEN to an album, I buy the vinyl version for my collection. There is a romantic physicality to it that even FLAC just doesn't have. Regardless of perceived "sound quality", I would rather listen to vinyl, but for my background or travel music, streaming has its place :-)
Thank you for all your support, I never knew my video was going to be seen by this many people... It's very overwhelming. I apologise for the poor sound quality, unfortunately my sound guy backed out last minute and we had to make do with what we had as there no chance of postponing the shoot. Alas, it is what it is and I hope you can keep the love on whats really important here. This documentary wasn't set out to state that Vinyl was the superior format, just to ask people why THEY love Vinyl so much (hence the name!). I personally love Vinyl which is what inspired me to make this film. I hope you enjoy this video, whether you love Vinyl or not. Remember to be nice to each other no matter what format people prefer, we all love music and have different ways of listening to it :) X
+Natalie Green Dear Natalie, can you tell me the music used in the background? Tried to detect it with Shazam/Soundhound at 10:13 and onwards, to no avail. Sounds like Explosions in the Sky or Hammock. Thanks for your kind help :)
Natalie, thanks for putting this together. As a child of the 60s and an avid vinyl collector who never got rid of his collection when CDs came out the people you interviewed expressed elegantly why I have over 4000 albums and am growing that list weekly. It is the story of my life as well.
I wouldn't know if I loved an album if it wasn't for vinyls. They force me to listen to both sides, start to finish. Transitions and all. I'm in love with so many albums, and so many are in my collection thanks to vinyls. Grab the wine, sit in the living room, low light and put the needle on the record and let it play!
***** I love wine, and nobody has time to keep dropping the needle to skip tracks. I obviously can't get the same experience with a CD, as I'm prone to heavy skipping to the singles.
+Aj Nv I have my turntable and stereo right in front of me with my boxes of records next to me and a view of the outdoors in front and to the right of me. Unfortunately of course not everyone has that luxury.
Crystal Elizabeth they're just a better expierience than cd's or mp3's and when you dj with them it feel just natural and more legit, the feel of your hand on the record while its spinnng, beat matching, and etc you get me
***** True. Pity a lot of digital is mastered like crap with all the dynamics compressed out of it though. Which is probably the real reason people buy vinyl.
I don't usually post comments but this documentary inspired me :) Really lovingly made, Natalie. Thank you! For me, it's about taking the time to appreciate the entity that someone has put so much effort into to create and the love of growing your own music collection. I've grown up with my Dad's vinyl collection and have all the memories/feelings that go with it, like learning how to turn the record over (I destroyed his version of Wish You Were Here when I was a toddler but we won't go into that), but I've always collected CDs. I totally agree with the point about people are always doing something else whilst 'surfing' music - I still enjoy taking the time to enjoy music for music's sake. Sound quality arguments aside (because it's not that one is better for me, just different) - it's about taking that time to appreciate the music whatever the format.
Well recorded, well mastered music can sound fantastic whether it is presented on vinyl or digitally, but it has to be done properly for the particular format. If done properly, both can sound great.
my opinion on this whole vinyl vs cd debate it's all in the mastering and for vinyl pressing plant quality control.the thing i don't like about a lot of cds as of late is they're mastered way too obnoxiously loud "brickwalled" & the average person thinks it sounds good.
the thing is, on the Vinyl format all the details are completely there. In CDs the format is shrink to fit at least 10 songs, if you're going to put a full detail of the music on CD it would take the entire Size of a CD or sometimes it can't handle that's why CD are really not good
found an old turntable from the 70's the other day on the side of the road for trash pickup. Took it apart completely, cleaned it with alcohol, and fixed the chord (it was cut for some reason) works wonderfully, and its a complete set. ordered my first record today. so excited!
Vinyl is amazing and will never die. Even when I use my vinyl recorder to record my records so I can listen on the go it's sill great to hear that vinyl sound from the crackle before a song and the quality of the music itself it's just amazing.
Collecting vinyls is awesome because of the ritual of placing the record, the artwork, and the tangibility of it. The only disadvantages are the maintenance it requires and that the majority of repressings of records are simply digital masters that are ported onto vinyl, not genuine analog masters.
When I buy Vinyl I don't wanna hear pops or clicks. Give somebody a great sounding vinyl on a good sound system and they'll never here music the same way. Or should I say feel music the same way, because in my personal opinion when the bass and guitars and vocals on analog recordings are heard, they move you.
very true ! it is possible to listen to vinyl in a Crystal clear fashion, you just have to take your time to get to this point, but it is possible, and very great !
***** this is also true, no one want to work to get quality, from the source wich is the musicians to the playback, quality has took a huge drop in general, even if there is still some sweet spots in some styles of music. i do not prefer cds of vinyls, i tend to appreciate music as it is, sometime i buy cds, sometime records, sometime i tune on FM stations.... but i must say i had to work to get a very decent vinyl playback, wich today make the whole thing much better because i'm happy i have learnt a lot about analog and turntable setup, then i go to my friends places and tune their set up and always got smiles at the end, that is worth a lot to me..!
"I would like to think that CD will go. If you want digital music just download it or stream it." Am I hearing this correctly? Telling people that they should "just use this" because it's good enough? This is exactly like if I tried to tell people who like analog "I wish vinyl would go away. If you want analog just get cassette tapes or Edison wax cylinders or something." Comments like that completely destroy the purpose of having a special interest in a particular topic or a particular music format or anything, which is that you have a preference and you like what you like, and that makes it special for you. The way people say they feel about vinyl is exactly the way I feel about CD. It's a special feeling when I buy one, I enjoy the music, I collect styles and artists I like, etc., and I always buy the CD when it is available. No one is going to tell me that I should "just use some other format." And all of this because CD is WHAT I LIKE and no amount of "CD is a dead format" or "vinyl is more collectible" or "this one has bigger artwork" is going to change that. This is a great video in that it shows why people like vinyl and it really gets that feeling across. While most of it was good, the anti-CD / anti-digital stuff was a major turnoff and if you ask me it had no place in this video. Those comments, in my opinion, show that many out there miss the point.
really lovely documentary, well done! i really enjoy a well put together documentary, this really brought out the romance between a person and their music, thanks for this!
So weird! I was just watching a Warpaint video and the first bits of this video was this person opening that sealed self-titled album. Also, you guys won me over with the AWESOME black and yellow limited boxset version vinyl of Holy Fire. Subscribed!
Amazing documentary! This helped me reassure my choice of buying my own record player and starting my vinyl collection :) The vinyl store in this video is absolutely beautiful! I saw this part where it says Michael Jackson, Jackson family vinyl. I screamed a little because Michael is my favorite singer.
i grew up with music more than tv. play a record and you hear everything the background music all of the band which i love. the exictement of putting the record on and flipping it over again and again, the artwork its magic! and in my case memory lane
Why vynil, I love the warm analog touch. The way they put albums together.. and the find of hey I didnt know this song was on this album.... not so much finding how much each one is valued but no wait for download. And yes it can be free and clear of crackle and pop. As I love it with a passion.
I love mp3's for streaming music on my Harley while riding in the country side. At Home, alone..... Vinyl. It's the whole concert in your living room experience. Visual, tactile, auditory. An all encompassing experience.
Just bought my first turn table this week and Ive been tracking every vinyl store here in Costa Rica, few options, but the difficulty makes it even more interesting!, I wish I had a store like that here!! :-)
I feel that collecting vinyls is just a cool way to listen to music if it's superior its superior if it's not it's not if you into b into it it dosent matter do what u want to do be happy about it
Wonderful documentary. Pretty much sums up my feeling towards Lp's. I guess the word Vinyl has become the in word to justify the medium. I always called them 45's or 12 inch LP. Whats the name of the Record store in the video?.
+Lee Wainman Hello Lee, I'm glad you enjoyed it :) The record store is called Sister Ray in Soho, London (Berwick Street) facebook.com/sisterrayrecords/
Listening vinyl is great experience and for me it is better to listen 25 minutes of music on turntable than two hours on digital format. Quality of sound is something we can argue about, it depends on many things like recording, mastering, quality of vinyl pressing etc. It is not only format that decides the quality of sound.
for me vinyl takes listening experience to a completely new level. I like reading through the artwork, I love the warm sound and everything. I will listen to digital when I am not at home, but sitting home with a cup of tea with a good punch of records...is really amazing to me :)
Great video - vinyl like music can be a very subjective topic. However, I picked up a early copy of Heart’s first album Dreamboat Annie the other day in near mint condition. When I pulled the sleeve out to examine it carefully I noticed a letter inside written to a lover asking them to listen to the album with headphones. Now, I have never had that happen when I bought a CD.
I'm a vinyl buyer, but what I do is hunt down that classic record and record it to an MP3 audio file for burning to CD so I can have music to play in my car. The thing is, buying CDs of the music from my era(1960s to 1980s), the compilers of the CDs CHEAT by putting non-authentic versions of songs into a compilation(trying to con the buyer by passing them off as original artist recordings..... Bull-Shit!). Now I know that sort of thing had been going on since before the advent of the CD format, but it had become more prevalent since CD's advent. I once bought a Roger Whittaker compilation on CD, issued by a major company, BMG(who gobbled up RCA), because it had "The Last Farewell" as its opening track. When I played it, the version I heard was NOT as I remembered it from a 1975 His Master's Voice(EMI) 45rpm original issue, so I took the CD back to the shop. The last-ever CD I bought was a Johnny Rivers compilation through EMI. Since then I've looked for the songs on vinyl 45s and major-label LPs and EPs to ensure I'm getting the PROPER, AUTHENTIC version.... I HATE SOUNDALIKE RECORDS! I'm a former presenter on community radio and I felt embarrassed when I lined up a track, played it and discovered it's a re-recording instead of the original commercial issue. That REALLY pissed me off! That pretty-much turned me off commercially-issued CDs.
@Ben Chambers, take your time building up your collection within a budget you can afford, a record collection takes yrs. to build up it's some of the fun of collecting.
I enjoyed this video, I agree with everything they say and I'm currently enjoying a lot of vinyl! Also, warmth is just as important to listeners as a clear tune, that's the main reason I enjoy vinyl. I have a friend who is a DJ and he said "Records do sound better, they sound more bassy." I think he's right.
no one seems to remember that period of time when record labels, cheapened their product to make up for the increase in oil prices ( and hence, vinyl pricies ). I remember the frustration of purchasing brand new records and one could feel the difference in weight. I remember having to return new albums, trying to get a copy that wasn't warped or had a pop in it. Go to the store and compare the "new" records to the "used" selection. The difference in weight is completely obvious. So before we start "romanticizing" about vinyl, lets try to remember that today's vinyl is wwaaaaaayyyy different then what was produced in the past.
I must say it isn't, at last, a matter of "romanticism" in vynil, old or new made. It's a matter of people being seduced by things that have nothing to do with sound quality in music reproduction. Hearing the (selected) absurdities said by "interviewed" persons kn this video is more than enough to disprove the point the video itself tries to "demonstrate".
It's more than just the music, it's everything involved once you decide what album to add...and there's no conclusion, 'cause every time you pull ot out of its slot you get to experience it all over again.
+JonnyInfinite I guess the 1988 Japanese film Akira predicted just that. In the beginning of the film there is a jukebox in a pub spinning CDs. It takes place in 2019. I can hardly wait :P *Rub palms*
+InternalCombustionGenie incidentally the other week I was in a pub in Manchester waiting for a gig. They had a full vinyl deck there, tons of old vinyl and equipment, all that jazz. The jukebox pumped out soul and funk classics, a beautiful fat melodic sound that made you feel good... It was a CD jukebox.
+JonnyInfinite You're right mate. Folk who are donating to charity or even throwing away their good CDs, be it for vinyl or digital must be mad. Suits me fine, I'm picking up buckets of cheap CDs as well as vinyl.
I think the CD format will come to be what the compact cassette was in the days before CDs existed, a means to make your own compilations of your favourite songs or instrumental tunes on a portable format, but unlike the cassette, will not require spooling tape backwards or forwards through a plastic cartridge. Sure there'll still be commercially-issued CDs but computers have enabled us to make our own CDs and dress them up as plain or as fancy as we like. And CD-R blanks with inkjet-printable label surfaces let us be creative in how we design our CD compilations.
The main fascination/obsession with vinyl for me is the "thrill of the chase". Being a hardcore 60s/Northern Soul fanatic, i'm still chasing records that i was dancing to over 40 years ago. It is true that just about anything is available digitally now, but that makes it too easy. Owning that classic 45 on a 1st issue, or white demo with a big red "A" on the label requires a certain kind of tenacity and pure determination. The excitement is also enhanced when you're sitting up til all hours of the morning waiting for the conclusion to an auction item that you've nervously placed quite a sizeable bid on. Digital music will never have this effect on me.
For all of the technical jargon that's being batted back and forth around the digital/analogue debate (all of which is pretty legit from both sides). There is one vital component to all of this that so many people seem to miss. And that is, analogue is a physical vibration, which is, is it not, what all music is primarily and fundamentally..?
Why vinyl (and shellac in my case)? Simply much more fun to go through the motions of putting on the record and seeing the thing work, more of an occasion that just clicking on an mp3 file or popping in a CD, neither of which I really have anything against and use as well as my records. The whole CD vs vinyl thing is somewhat trivial in my humble opinion, collect the formats and music you love regardless and enjoy it.
I've got a bookshelf at my house which I was thinking of storing my records on, but the albums overhang by about 3 inches. Would this cause any problems over time? Help? Somebody? Please?
All of a persons senses are involved in the vinyl experience, save taste. Textured gatefolds, first issues, beautiful labels and turntables, Dynamic open trinary ananalogue sound. Astonishing artwork often created out of love, a gift from the artist's soul to your own. I would question whether they are a fragile medium when looked after properly. Scratch a record and it still plays. CD's are ruined. Skipping CD's are as annoying as a slight scratch.
fun video, like it a lot and discovered some new records from the Third man records. to bad are not any record stores nearby. bye cause i like his music a lot. and would like to have them and listen them.
My first turntable since I was a kid in the early 80s is arriving tomorrow. I'm stoked. I'm going to visit a couple local record stores this afternoon. I feel guilty for not supporting them for all these years. I was "all-in" with CDs when I could afford them, and I think they're here to stay as well. The sound is simply better quality, but that's not always the #1 concern, right? I like MP3s, to have good quality music available at all times in my phone, but now that streaming seems to be taking over, I don't really like it, for some reason. It made me re-think things.
MP3s sound better than cassettes, IMO. Cassettes were nice for making mixes and dubs, and being portable, but that's it. I'd like to see MiniDisc come back without all the limitations and high prices. Lossless digital on flash media is the way of the future. Records have higher frequency response than any of the digital formats so far, up to 60 kHz. They say we can't hear it, but maybe we can feel it, or else there's no explaining why vinyl never died.
+Jeremy D Digital audio has a greater dynamic range, CDs and MP3s have 96dB of dynamic range whereas vinyl has around 60dB at best. Digital also perfectly reproduces all the frequencies that can be detected by the human ear. All studies so far have shown inconclusive results in to whether we can feel any higher frequencies.
There was one study done that showed at very high volume listening, folks prefer SACD to CD, but below that, there's no discernable difference. I wonder if that would apply to vinyl too, that at higher volumes, vinyl sounds better? I haven't compared vinyl to CD at higher volumes, but I do notice that I like vinyl's sound at higher volumes, and it has nothing to do with the music.
Because at age 4 1970 it became my art gallery Music imprint, parent education and bible. I preserve them for these reasons. Plus the sound most of it was designed for.
It's nice to see youngsters catching the vinyl bug. Displaying the sleeves as wall art tells its own story. Digital downloads are transient and have no value. When you spend your hard earned cash on a physical product you appreciate it more and will revisit the listening experience more often. Its great fun playing with a turntable -maintaining it - setting it up properly and experimenting with different cartridges.
Paianni The Numark (I believe that's what it is) that is shown looks decent to me, although I haven't actually seen it in person. At least it has an adjustable counterweight and removable headshell, which so many others lack. Not everyone can afford or easily obtain the top of the line equipment! But I agree, a decent turntable will make your records sound good and preserve them as well.
Paianni The 1210's are sort of ''affordable''. Second hand is fine. I have one that's 30 years old, and aside from a pitch calibration I performed myself on it, and the pilot light's gone, it's stable as a rock.
I have collected about 1500 CDs and 600 Lps during the years. Saying that vinyl sounds generally better is something that i cant confirm. Its 99% about mastering. I have done lots of blind tests to find the better medium but i think they both are great together :) btw: i also own a big amount of CDs that sound definitly better than their vinyl contrapart.
Is there a way to get modern music on vinyls? I'm brand new and I would love to hear new music on vinyl right now. Maybe that's not the idea of listening on vinyl to hear newer music but I'm just wondering. I never really listened to vinyl but I love music and I love sound. Please help. Thanks
+Kyezie131 go to soundstage direct dot com and you can get Lady Gaga, Blackeyed Peas, Coldplay, Gotye, Adele, and several other of today's music on...VINYL!!! I got Coldplay and the group: Fun, both on vinyl. I also go to soundstage direct for hard to find albums that I never could find a thrift stores, flea markets, or yard sales. I found Yazoo (YAZ) a 1980's rock group through this company. I have not found vinyl in any store and most record stores have disappeared except perhaps in big cities like San Francisco/ L.A., etc. But this wonderful site also has great prices and deals on records, they can order a particular album you're looking for too, all you gotta do is ask 'em! :)
Complete waste of money! All of those records are digitally recorded, so why not just buy them either on CD, or better yet, download them from HD tracks in 24 bit/96kHz sampling rate. You'll actually get to hear the recording as the producers meant it to be heard.
I have the group called "FUN" on one of those new Vinyl pressings and I have to say, it is fantastic! You have to experience it your own self to actually hear what I hear. I also have the CD of the SAME album, and let me tell ya, there IS a noticeable difference between the two recordings. That is why I will always prefer records. They may have more up-to-date technology now, compared to many moons ago when records were first cut/recorded, etc. With this wonderful new technology they have brought records back for a whole new generation. I even replaced an old album through sound stage direct dot com and when I played the old one and then the NEW one...it was music to my ears! The old one came from a thrift store, so a few songs skipped on it. Plus, it was an album I was trying to find and so I bought it in hopes that I'll find a better one eventually, and did I ever. It was an old Moody Blues Album. :) I think I am completely satisfied and personally feel that it was worth MY money!
I love vinyl, but I'm not one of those purists who thinks that digital is terrible. Certainly when CD's debuted in the early 80s, they were awful. The record companies would merely digitize the vinyl master and slap it on a disc, and the results were predictably horrendous. Today, however, with advanced mastering techniques, the CD has caught up...just in time for it to go the way of the dodo bird as digital downloads become the predominant format. MP3 (or whatever lossy equivalent you want to mention) has sent us back to the stone age in terms of sonic fidelity, which is, in my opinion, the main driving force behind the move back to vinyl for younger listeners. In addition, everyone wants to HOLD something tangible while listening to music, and there's nothing to hold onto while listening to an MP3. Personally, I listen to vinyl at home and FLAC in the car and at work - it's really the best of both worlds.
Christopher Gadbois Advanced mastering techniques? do you mean the loudness and brickwalled compression added to 85% of cd's released these days, I think we've come full circle with cd, it sounded terrible back in the 80s got better and sounded much better in the 90s and now because of the loudness war cd sounds actually worse than in the 80s, crazy!
I remember sitting listening to a record back in the 1970s and because there was power cuts here in the UK at that time, as the lights suddenly went out, the record would slow down to a stop and the voice of the singer would lower in pitch. Then, as the lights went back on, it would go from lower to higher pitch as the record returned to its correct speed lol. I would of course put the record away if it was dark for more than a few minutes. Ah, those were the days.
I have CDs and vinyl and have some from the same master I prefer CDs over vinyl because they don't ware out and no pops and crackles but I do like buying used vinyl for just a few dollars that's cool !
Vinyl just sounds way better than mp3 or may be cds. I play my vinyl on a technics turtable play back on a harman-kardon reciver with infinity speakers. Is just the best! Cheers from L.A california
What I love most about these vinyl collectors is that they have thousands and thousands of pounds or dollars worth of music and they persist on playing it on some shit turntable do these people love music or vinyl???
Kinda ironic how in the vid they're talking about great sound while the audio quality of the video itself is not too good. They should have used better mics, but otherwise a very true documentary.
Maybe someone can answer this. Avid record collector. Recently I got into a group that ONLY has CD's and digital downloads. Amazing band. So, I paid a bit of money and had Vinylify (in the Netherlands) cut a record, 10" vinyl 33rpm of 4 of their tracks. The MP3's I sent them were the one's I bought directly from Amazon's music service. I had played those MP3's quite often. When the record came in it played most AWESOME. Here's the kicker. The 1st song always had soft passages with noises and such at the first few seconds and I never could make out what they were saying. I suspected it wasn't mean to be understood. On the vinyl, I could make out for the first time the words. Why is that? It's the same MP3 just on vinyl. I thought it was interesting to say the least.
Well, they both were played on the same amplifier but one (MP3) was via Bluetooth from different devices, a tablet and a cell phone, and the other (vinyl) was played over a nice turntable. Yeah, I thought that as well.
Surface noise , audio range and all that isn’t my no 1 concern. I just like the way of listening , to my music of choice , on vinyl. To me , it feels more dedicated , experiencing tunes on my turntable. I listen on cd and streaming too , and likes the convenience of making my own playlists on spotify. But if I had to choose , I’d stay with vinyl. Nothing wrong with one or the other. It’s just personal choises.
To be honest, the one in the lady's room looks like the cheapest and crappies you could ever get. It looks quite exactly like a "DJ Tech USB" "Scout" and so on. I had one of those and immediately sold it. I would never maltreat my vinyl's surface on such a stiff table, the tonearm mount isn't even tight either on those china-plastic TTs, it wobbles/clickers around like crap. ;) Design/optic of the TT maybe is ok on first sight (- but already the alu table rim looks cheap on all of those, no stroboscope there, just cheap bold lines- ), but the rest - uhhmmm no please not.. .
MarkandNettyBailey I would recommend a good direct drive turntable such as a Technics SL1210 or similar. Pair that with a decent Ortofon stylus, and that's a decent setup for a reasonable amount of money. Unless you want to go into audiophile territory of course, which is very very expensive.
I don' t mind the high fidelity aspect or the pureness of sound. I remember the flap-flap in the record shop while choosing my favourite album, spending ernormous amounts of money (20 deutschmark) when i was young. My first Technics record player with the stroboscope, the crackling before the first song, the foldout cover, the liner notes and sleeves with the lyrics.....sigh
both medium have advantage and disadvantage... in a great hi-fi set up, CD sound clean, on the other hand, vinyl sound much alive. CD main advantage is the simplicity aspect of it, and vinyl will give you the overall experiences in listening to music -- which I think we all should experience it, however, at the end its subject to your owned preferences.
Perry...my music experience has shown me that vinyl has more tone and overall sound quality. I have a good friend who uses an oscilloscope to check out his records. A lot of time, newer records are simply recorded louder so people think they are better, when in effect the top and bottom notes are cut off and the volume is raised so that people just hear it louder and think it is better. Case in point Jimi Hendrix original pressings have a wider audio range than the current re-releases. You can see this on an oscilloscope where the highs and lows are cut off. But the new re-releases sound better to most people because the volume is set higher. Another thing that needs to be addressed is MP3S. They are a lossy type of compression, and lose some of the quality of the sound. I trade in APE or monkey audio, and FLAC format. These are easily decoded using a program like Traders Little Helper. These 2 formats are lossless formats . What you record and compress ends up the same sounding after decompression. No loss of quality. Most of us can't hear the difference in the music anyway. Just my opinion, and I could be wrong...
I'm not going to argue about format technicalities, but I believe that there should be one standard for domestic, professional and portable music. Vinyl, reel to reel and compact cassette are the oldest popular formats for those purposes and the market should stay that way.
nah. I've never once even held a vinyl but somehow I really want to start a collection. So I call bs on your nostalgia claim (though it may be half true for the older generations)
i hate vinyl scratches, i really do sometimes i have scratched for no reason whats so ever, i ordered a copy of bjorks vespertine, it came with a skipable scratch wich made a poppping sound and then a normal scratch on undo. i really like vinyl but i dont really want to buy any more
Vinyl is our sacred place of really enjoying music. CDs i couldn't store them. Vinyl i still have about four hundred albums i never sold off. The process of record cleaning and buying high end turntable and cartridge is my love of music. Streaming is ok but vinyl is the foundation of discovering progressive music, I love the new 10 inch 45 RPM
Nothing can't beat the audio quality from a vinyl. It contains more khz then a cd. A vinyl can reach the khz of 96000 then a CD or compact disc can only recive 44100khz. Keep on the fight vinyl's! =D Love and respect of a music lover.
Completely wrong. CD beats it easily. More KHz than a CD? You have no idea what you are talking about. While you may prefer the sound of vinyl, it in no way can match the quality of a CD in terms of distortion and dynamic range.
Todd Green In dynamic range wins the compact disc. But think of this. Lay back into the coch and hear the classic vinyl sound. Anyway. as we all know. It's a different formats of cd and vinyl. =)
DMTM You are fooling yourself. Vinyl's frequency response is non linear and rolls off significantly after 16khz. So for the relevant frequency range up to 20khz (I'm assuming you're not a dog or a bat) CD will reproduce those higher frequencies more capably than vinyl. More importantly is the resolution, or detail, of the music. CD with 16 bits has a dynamic range of at least 98db while vinyl is closer to 70db which is about 10-12 bits in the digital world, equivalent to a mid range lossy file. Having said that, I agree keep on fighting vinyl but please base it on facts.
the thing with records is it commands your attention, on a computer or phone....you control the music, its instinct to stop it to check your facebook or whatever, with Records the music controls you and you are under its physical spell, you have to hold your pee in because you want to hear the end of the song. its an experience. and you find you enjoy listening to the album as a whole as it should be. and in a strange contradiction,,,, in a world of any song at your finger tips,, you may actually end up listening to more music and songs you wouldn't normal find the time for. you may actually end up listening to more music.
Anyone else love the crackling at the beginning of an LP before the music starts?
NO!;-)
Michael Ashbrook Take care of your albums and you’ll hear absolute silence throughout the whole album!
No, I have several that do not crackle and pop.
NO!!
YES!
I love digital because it's so portable and I could listen to it anywhere at anytime on my phone for example.
I also love Vinyl because it's an experience. Much like going to a Movie Theater to watch a Movie instead of renting or going to a Restaurant to eat a special dinner instead of making dinner at home. I also love the physicality of the record (outer cover, artwork, etc), something you can hold in your hands.
Both have their pros and cons. Still I love both.
Same
GeoAl09 I can't remember where I heard it but someone described it as a "Japanese tea ceremony", where it doesn't make the tea taste any better, but that it enhances the experience.
You said it in words >
Couldn't agree more! I always listen to the highest quality streaming possible on my phone but when I want to actually LISTEN to an album, I buy the vinyl version for my collection. There is a romantic physicality to it that even FLAC just doesn't have.
Regardless of perceived "sound quality", I would rather listen to vinyl, but for my background or travel music, streaming has its place :-)
+GeoAl09 On your phone? Only suitable for beep, beep, squeak, squeak.
Thank you for all your support, I never knew my video was going to be seen by this many people... It's very overwhelming. I apologise for the poor sound quality, unfortunately my sound guy backed out last minute and we had to make do with what we had as there no chance of postponing the shoot. Alas, it is what it is and I hope you can keep the love on whats really important here.
This documentary wasn't set out to state that Vinyl was the superior format, just to ask people why THEY love Vinyl so much (hence the name!). I personally love Vinyl which is what inspired me to make this film. I hope you enjoy this video, whether you love Vinyl or not. Remember to be nice to each other no matter what format people prefer, we all love music and have different ways of listening to it :) X
+Natalie Green Dear Natalie, can you tell me the music used in the background? Tried to detect it with Shazam/Soundhound at 10:13 and onwards, to no avail. Sounds like Explosions in the Sky or Hammock. Thanks for your kind help :)
+Natalie Green I loved watching this. Thank you much Natalie.
KEEP VINYL ALIVE ...
Just apply compressor to the voice, but not the music part.....
Natalie, thanks for putting this together. As a child of the 60s and an avid vinyl collector who never got rid of his collection when CDs came out the people you interviewed expressed elegantly why I have over 4000 albums and am growing that list weekly. It is the story of my life as well.
Thats wonderful! You must have such an awesome collection! I'm so glad you liked it :)
I wouldn't know if I loved an album if it wasn't for vinyls. They force me to listen to both sides, start to finish. Transitions and all. I'm in love with so many albums, and so many are in my collection thanks to vinyls. Grab the wine, sit in the living room, low light and put the needle on the record and let it play!
***** I love wine, and nobody has time to keep dropping the needle to skip tracks. I obviously can't get the same experience with a CD, as I'm prone to heavy skipping to the singles.
+Aj Nv I have my turntable and stereo right in front of me with my boxes of records next to me and a view of the outdoors in front and to the right of me. Unfortunately of course not everyone has that luxury.
Matt Thompson i
the plural of vinyl is vinyl
why cant everybody just sit down and enjoy the damn music, wether vinyl or CD?
Crystal Elizabeth they're just a better expierience than cd's or mp3's and when you dj with them it feel just natural and more legit, the feel of your hand on the record while its spinnng, beat matching, and etc you get me
Hugo Frich I hate natural
***** True. Pity a lot of digital is mastered like crap with all the dynamics compressed out of it though. Which is probably the real reason people buy vinyl.
Hugo Frich So for you it is not about the music, but rather the ritual that you enjoy.
I like the music, especially hip hop and it feels so real doing spinbacks and scratching + cueing
I don't usually post comments but this documentary inspired me :) Really lovingly made, Natalie. Thank you!
For me, it's about taking the time to appreciate the entity that someone has put so much effort into to create and the love of growing your own music collection. I've grown up with my Dad's vinyl collection and have all the memories/feelings that go with it, like learning how to turn the record over (I destroyed his version of Wish You Were Here when I was a toddler but we won't go into that), but I've always collected CDs. I totally agree with the point about people are always doing something else whilst 'surfing' music - I still enjoy taking the time to enjoy music for music's sake. Sound quality arguments aside (because it's not that one is better for me, just different) - it's about taking that time to appreciate the music whatever the format.
Well recorded, well mastered music can sound fantastic whether it is presented on vinyl or digitally, but it has to be done properly for the particular format. If done properly, both can sound great.
my opinion on this whole vinyl vs cd debate it's all in the mastering and for vinyl pressing plant quality control.the thing i don't like about a lot of cds as of late is they're mastered way too obnoxiously loud "brickwalled" & the average person thinks it sounds good.
the thing is, on the Vinyl format all the details are completely there. In CDs the format is shrink to fit at least 10 songs, if you're going to put a full detail of the music on CD it would take the entire Size of a CD or sometimes it can't handle that's why CD are really not good
Records are cooler. I got loads of CDs but records are a whole different ballgame.
@@SugarW1thC0ffee *Vinyl smh.
found an old turntable from the 70's the other day on the side of the road for trash pickup. Took it apart completely, cleaned it with alcohol, and fixed the chord (it was cut for some reason) works wonderfully, and its a complete set. ordered my first record today. so excited!
I like that I can discover records from the past, it's like holding on to pieces of history
Best video I've watched for ages. All your comments are so true. Long live vinyl!
Jack White's latest album sold 40,000 copies in vinyl, along with the digital downloads and CDs. Pretty cool.
Vinyl is amazing and will never die. Even when I use my vinyl recorder to record my records so I can listen on the go it's sill great to hear that vinyl sound from the crackle before a song and the quality of the music itself it's just amazing.
Wonderful. Thanks for keeping vinyl records alive
Got my first Vinyl today , Getting a player this week , I can't wait
Good luck and have fun man! Btw don't but a Crosley, they're record shredders
I hope you bought at least an LP60
just got my turntable today, found out that I still need a preamp. fuck.
How's your collection come along so far?
Tom Spencer I've got too many records to count my life is in shambles and I'm broke
A nice documentary thanks Natalie.
Collecting vinyls is awesome because of the ritual of placing the record, the artwork, and the tangibility of it. The only disadvantages are the maintenance it requires and that the majority of repressings of records are simply digital masters that are ported onto vinyl, not genuine analog masters.
Also nearly all new music released on vinyl is recorded digitally. It's still nice having it on vinyl though
Shamic Entertainment It is. Tobe completely honest I cannot tell q difference between a lossless analog master and a 320 kbps digital master.
Chris Ramirez No i probably couldn't either.
Shamic Entertainment In the end it is all about listening to t he music and if the music sounds good and clear to you that is all that matters.
You can reduce the noise floor significantly by cleaning your records.
Very lovely piece! Nailed it I think!
This is great! I'm not very knowledgeable on records but this is really interesting. Well Done Natalie!
When I buy Vinyl I don't wanna hear pops or clicks. Give somebody a great sounding vinyl on a good sound system and they'll never here music the same way. Or should I say feel music the same way, because in my personal opinion when the bass and guitars and vocals on analog recordings are heard, they move you.
very true ! it is possible to listen to vinyl in a Crystal clear fashion, you just have to take your time to get to this point, but it is possible, and very great !
***** this is also true, no one want to work to get quality, from the source wich is the musicians to the playback, quality has took a huge drop in general, even if there is still some sweet spots in some styles of music. i do not prefer cds of vinyls, i tend to appreciate music as it is, sometime i buy cds, sometime records, sometime i tune on FM stations.... but i must say i had to work to get a very decent vinyl playback, wich today make the whole thing much better because i'm happy i have learnt a lot about analog and turntable setup, then i go to my friends places and tune their set up and always got smiles at the end, that is worth a lot to me..!
+1 for showing a quick shot of Justin Hayward's (from the Moody Blues) "War of the Worlds" double album at 6:07
"I would like to think that CD will go. If you want digital music just download it or stream it."
Am I hearing this correctly? Telling people that they should "just use this" because it's good enough? This is exactly like if I tried to tell people who like analog "I wish vinyl would go away. If you want analog just get cassette tapes or Edison wax cylinders or something." Comments like that completely destroy the purpose of having a special interest in a particular topic or a particular music format or anything, which is that you have a preference and you like what you like, and that makes it special for you.
The way people say they feel about vinyl is exactly the way I feel about CD. It's a special feeling when I buy one, I enjoy the music, I collect styles and artists I like, etc., and I always buy the CD when it is available. No one is going to tell me that I should "just use some other format." And all of this because CD is WHAT I LIKE and no amount of "CD is a dead format" or "vinyl is more collectible" or "this one has bigger artwork" is going to change that.
This is a great video in that it shows why people like vinyl and it really gets that feeling across. While most of it was good, the anti-CD / anti-digital stuff was a major turnoff and if you ask me it had no place in this video. Those comments, in my opinion, show that many out there miss the point.
Well done Natalie, brilliant work......
Thank you!
really lovely documentary, well done! i really enjoy a well put together documentary, this really brought out the romance between a person and their music, thanks for this!
So weird! I was just watching a Warpaint video and the first bits of this video was this person opening that sealed self-titled album. Also, you guys won me over with the AWESOME black and yellow limited boxset version vinyl of Holy Fire. Subscribed!
Amazing documentary! This helped me reassure my choice of buying my own record player and starting my vinyl collection :) The vinyl store in this video is absolutely beautiful! I saw this part where it says Michael Jackson, Jackson family vinyl. I screamed a little because Michael is my favorite singer.
Beautifully made. Absolutely amazing. This explains how I feel about vinyl records.
Dude, that playlist at 2:40 had some of my favorite bands! Into it. Over it & have mercy
Fantastic documentary. Well done.
i grew up with music more than tv. play a record and you hear everything the background music all of the band which i love. the exictement of putting the record on and flipping it over again and again, the artwork its magic! and in my case memory lane
carly gillibrand call me odd but i like the cracks and pop sounds!
Why vynil, I love the warm analog touch. The way they put albums together.. and the find of hey I didnt know this song was on this album.... not so much finding how much each one is valued but no wait for download. And yes it can be free and clear of crackle and pop. As I love it with a passion.
I love mp3's for streaming music on my Harley while riding in the country side. At Home, alone..... Vinyl. It's the whole concert in your living room experience. Visual, tactile, auditory. An all encompassing experience.
Just bought my first turn table this week and Ive been tracking every vinyl store here in Costa Rica, few options, but the difficulty makes it even more interesting!, I wish I had a store like that here!! :-)
I feel that collecting vinyls is just a cool way to listen to music if it's superior its superior if it's not it's not if you into b into it it dosent matter do what u want to do be happy about it
Wonderful documentary. Pretty much sums up my feeling towards Lp's. I guess the word Vinyl has become the in word to justify the medium. I always called them 45's or 12 inch LP. Whats the name of the Record store in the video?.
+Lee Wainman Hello Lee, I'm glad you enjoyed it :) The record store is called Sister Ray in Soho, London (Berwick Street) facebook.com/sisterrayrecords/
Listening vinyl is great experience and for me it is better to listen 25 minutes of music on turntable than two hours on digital format. Quality of sound is something we can argue about, it depends on many things like recording, mastering, quality of vinyl pressing etc. It is not only format that decides the quality of sound.
I like both vinyl and CD.
Hellcommander245 Good man.
for me vinyl takes listening experience to a completely new level. I like reading through the artwork, I love the warm sound and everything. I will listen to digital when I am not at home, but sitting home with a cup of tea with a good punch of records...is really amazing to me :)
Great video - vinyl like music can be a very subjective topic. However, I picked up a early copy of Heart’s first album Dreamboat Annie the other day in near mint condition. When I pulled the sleeve out to examine it carefully I noticed a letter inside written to a lover asking them to listen to the album with headphones. Now, I have never had that happen when I bought a CD.
Honestly, I just do it cause it fun. The closest comparison for me would be like collecting baseball cards, except useful.
@05:41 is that the original Jazz Work Shop - Mezare Israel Yekabtzenu???
I'm a vinyl buyer, but what I do is hunt down that classic record and record it to an MP3 audio file for burning to CD so I can have music to play in my car. The thing is, buying CDs of the music from my era(1960s to 1980s), the compilers of the CDs CHEAT by putting non-authentic versions of songs into a compilation(trying to con the buyer by passing them off as original artist recordings..... Bull-Shit!). Now I know that sort of thing had been going on since before the advent of the CD format, but it had become more prevalent since CD's advent. I once bought a Roger Whittaker compilation on CD, issued by a major company, BMG(who gobbled up RCA), because it had "The Last Farewell" as its opening track. When I played it, the version I heard was NOT as I remembered it from a 1975 His Master's Voice(EMI) 45rpm original issue, so I took the CD back to the shop. The last-ever CD I bought was a Johnny Rivers compilation through EMI. Since then I've looked for the songs on vinyl 45s and major-label LPs and EPs to ensure I'm getting the PROPER, AUTHENTIC version.... I HATE SOUNDALIKE RECORDS! I'm a former presenter on community radio and I felt embarrassed when I lined up a track, played it and discovered it's a re-recording instead of the original commercial issue. That REALLY pissed me off! That pretty-much turned me off commercially-issued CDs.
I'm 16 and have bought Radioheads Kid A on vinyl and I realize I want to collect vinyls but there's just too expensive
In australia they cost 40,50,60 dollars. Can't afford that anymore
musicstack is the source of affordable vinyl.
@Ben Chambers, take your time building up your collection within a budget you can afford, a record collection takes yrs. to build up it's some of the fun of collecting.
I enjoyed this video, I agree with everything they say and I'm currently enjoying a lot of vinyl! Also, warmth is just as important to listeners as a clear tune, that's the main reason I enjoy vinyl. I have a friend who is a DJ and he said "Records do sound better, they sound more bassy." I think he's right.
no one seems to remember that period of time when record labels, cheapened their product to make up for the increase in oil prices ( and hence, vinyl pricies ). I remember the frustration of purchasing brand new records and one could feel the difference in weight. I remember having to return new albums, trying to get a copy that wasn't warped or had a pop in it.
Go to the store and compare the "new" records to the "used" selection. The difference in weight is completely obvious.
So before we start "romanticizing" about vinyl, lets try to remember that today's vinyl is wwaaaaaayyyy different then what was produced in the past.
I must say it isn't, at last, a matter of "romanticism" in vynil, old or new made. It's a matter of people being seduced by things that have nothing to do with sound quality in music reproduction.
Hearing the (selected) absurdities said by "interviewed" persons kn this video is more than enough to disprove the point the video itself tries to "demonstrate".
It's more than just the music, it's everything involved once you decide what album to add...and there's no conclusion, 'cause every time you pull ot out of its slot you get to experience it all over again.
Looking forward to the CD revival in twenty years when people come to their senses and realise how superior it can be.
+JonnyInfinite I guess the 1988 Japanese film Akira predicted just that. In the beginning of the film there is a jukebox in a pub spinning CDs. It takes place in 2019.
I can hardly wait :P
*Rub palms*
+InternalCombustionGenie incidentally the other week I was in a pub in Manchester waiting for a gig. They had a full vinyl deck there, tons of old vinyl and equipment, all that jazz. The jukebox pumped out soul and funk classics, a beautiful fat melodic sound that made you feel good...
It was a CD jukebox.
+JonnyInfinite You're right mate. Folk who are donating to charity or even throwing away their good CDs, be it for vinyl or digital must be mad. Suits me fine, I'm picking up buckets of cheap CDs as well as vinyl.
+NeilTheDruid more fool them
+JonnyInfinite that is not gonna happen lol keep waiting! lol
I think the CD format will come to be what the compact cassette was in the days before CDs existed, a means to make your own compilations of your favourite songs or instrumental tunes on a portable format, but unlike the cassette, will not require spooling tape backwards or forwards through a plastic cartridge. Sure there'll still be commercially-issued CDs but computers have enabled us to make our own CDs and dress them up as plain or as fancy as we like. And CD-R blanks with inkjet-printable label surfaces let us be creative in how we design our CD compilations.
The main fascination/obsession with vinyl for me is the "thrill of the chase". Being a hardcore 60s/Northern Soul fanatic, i'm still chasing records that i was dancing to over 40 years ago. It is true that just about anything is available digitally now, but that makes it too easy. Owning that classic 45 on a 1st issue, or white demo with a big red "A" on the label requires a certain kind of tenacity and pure determination. The excitement is also enhanced when you're sitting up til all hours of the morning waiting for the conclusion to an auction item that you've nervously placed quite a sizeable bid on. Digital music will never have this effect on me.
For all of the technical jargon that's being batted back and forth around the digital/analogue debate (all of which is pretty legit from both sides). There is one vital component to all of this that so many people seem to miss. And that is, analogue is a physical vibration, which is, is it not, what all music is primarily and fundamentally..?
Why vinyl (and shellac in my case)? Simply much more fun to go through the motions of putting on the record and seeing the thing work, more of an occasion that just clicking on an mp3 file or popping in a CD, neither of which I really have anything against and use as well as my records.
The whole CD vs vinyl thing is somewhat trivial in my humble opinion, collect the formats and music you love regardless and enjoy it.
Great little doco!
I've got a bookshelf at my house which I was thinking of storing my records on, but the albums overhang by about 3 inches. Would this cause any problems over time? Help? Somebody? Please?
Grew up with cd's in the 90's now exploring vinyl at 43
Vinyl is so great. Trust me, ask the artist and they will tell you they made music to be listened to on your record player in the first place.
Nowadays not so much about that last part though...
All of a persons senses are involved in the vinyl experience, save taste. Textured gatefolds, first issues, beautiful labels and turntables, Dynamic open trinary ananalogue sound. Astonishing artwork often created out of love, a gift from the artist's soul to your own. I would question whether they are a fragile medium when looked after properly.
Scratch a record and it still plays. CD's are ruined. Skipping CD's are as annoying as a slight scratch.
fun video, like it a lot and discovered some new records from the Third man records. to bad are not any record stores nearby. bye cause i like his music a lot. and would like to have them and listen them.
My first turntable since I was a kid in the early 80s is arriving tomorrow. I'm stoked. I'm going to visit a couple local record stores this afternoon. I feel guilty for not supporting them for all these years. I was "all-in" with CDs when I could afford them, and I think they're here to stay as well. The sound is simply better quality, but that's not always the #1 concern, right?
I like MP3s, to have good quality music available at all times in my phone, but now that streaming seems to be taking over, I don't really like it, for some reason. It made me re-think things.
MP3s sound better than cassettes, IMO. Cassettes were nice for making mixes and dubs, and being portable, but that's it. I'd like to see MiniDisc come back without all the limitations and high prices. Lossless digital on flash media is the way of the future.
Records have higher frequency response than any of the digital formats so far, up to 60 kHz. They say we can't hear it, but maybe we can feel it, or else there's no explaining why vinyl never died.
+Jeremy D Digital audio has a greater dynamic range, CDs and MP3s have 96dB of dynamic range whereas vinyl has around 60dB at best. Digital also perfectly reproduces all the frequencies that can be detected by the human ear. All studies so far have shown inconclusive results in to whether we can feel any higher frequencies.
01chohan You're right; I corrected my post. I meant to say 'frequency response', not 'dynamic range.'
There was one study done that showed at very high volume listening, folks prefer SACD to CD, but below that, there's no discernable difference. I wonder if that would apply to vinyl too, that at higher volumes, vinyl sounds better?
I haven't compared vinyl to CD at higher volumes, but I do notice that I like vinyl's sound at higher volumes, and it has nothing to do with the music.
Paused on the computers mp3 screen and saw underoath, caspian, paramour and Norma Jean. ❤️😘 what a variety.
what turntable is that at 0:32?
I remember buying vinyl just because of the album cover/artwork, CD's are not the same
colourmeinkindness at 0:30 !! I'd definitely recommend this album (y)
Because at age 4 1970 it became my art gallery Music imprint, parent education and bible. I preserve them for these reasons. Plus the sound most of it was designed for.
Why can't just enjoy all formats I love vinyl cds and cassettes
I found some 45s and a old player it's hard to work the needle won't stick at times but i still like it over cd
It's nice to see youngsters catching the vinyl bug. Displaying the sleeves as wall art tells its own story. Digital downloads are transient and have no value. When you spend your hard earned cash on a physical product you appreciate it more and will revisit the listening experience more often. Its great fun playing with a turntable -maintaining it - setting it up properly and experimenting with different cartridges.
what is the flashing light on the turntable?
Super doc.
This was edited on Final Cut Pro. I can tell. Nice job, mate. Bit trouble with audio, though.
0:32 If you're gonna get into vinyl, get a decent turntable!
David Mander yup
David Mander I pair a Technics 1210 with an Ortofon DJ E. I'm pretty happy with that. Needle depends on the music though.
Paianni The Numark (I believe that's what it is) that is shown looks decent to me, although I haven't actually seen it in person. At least it has an adjustable counterweight and removable headshell, which so many others lack. Not everyone can afford or easily obtain the top of the line equipment! But I agree, a decent turntable will make your records sound good and preserve them as well.
BlueParadoxical
But no one should bother with vinyl, especially not nowadays, unless they can afford a decent turntable.
Paianni
The 1210's are sort of ''affordable''. Second hand is fine. I have one that's 30 years old, and aside from a pitch calibration I performed myself on it, and the pilot light's gone, it's stable as a rock.
I'm hoping that the bubble doesn't burst on this resurgence, I have always bought and played it at gigs and still do...
I have collected about 1500 CDs and 600 Lps during the years. Saying that vinyl sounds generally better is something that i cant confirm. Its 99% about mastering. I have done lots of blind tests to find the better medium but i think they both are great together :) btw: i also own a big amount of CDs that sound definitly better than their vinyl contrapart.
Is there a way to get modern music on vinyls? I'm brand new and I would love to hear new music on vinyl right now. Maybe that's not the idea of listening on vinyl to hear newer music but I'm just wondering. I never really listened to vinyl but I love music and I love sound. Please help. Thanks
+Kyezie131 go to soundstage direct dot com and you can get Lady Gaga, Blackeyed Peas, Coldplay, Gotye, Adele, and several other of today's music on...VINYL!!! I got Coldplay and the group: Fun, both on vinyl. I also go to soundstage direct for hard to find albums that I never could find a thrift stores, flea markets, or yard sales. I found Yazoo (YAZ) a 1980's rock group through this company. I have not found vinyl in any store and most record stores have disappeared except perhaps in big cities like San Francisco/ L.A., etc. But this wonderful site also has great prices and deals on records, they can order a particular album you're looking for too, all you gotta do is ask 'em! :)
Complete waste of money! All of those records are digitally recorded, so why not just buy them either on CD, or better yet, download them from HD tracks in 24 bit/96kHz sampling rate. You'll actually get to hear the recording as the producers meant it to be heard.
I have the group called "FUN" on one of those new Vinyl pressings and I have to say, it is fantastic! You have to experience it your own self to actually hear what I hear. I also have the CD of the SAME album, and let me tell ya, there IS a noticeable difference between the two recordings. That is why I will always prefer records. They may have more up-to-date technology now, compared to many moons ago when records were first cut/recorded, etc. With this wonderful new technology they have brought records back for a whole new generation. I even replaced an old album through sound stage direct dot com and when I played the old one and then the NEW one...it was music to my ears! The old one came from a thrift store, so a few songs skipped on it. Plus, it was an album I was trying to find and so I bought it in hopes that I'll find a better one eventually, and did I ever. It was an old Moody Blues Album. :) I think I am completely satisfied and personally feel that it was worth MY money!
I don't own a digital music player, nor a MP3. :)
How about vinyl Vs FLAC at 24/96 ???.
I'm 14 and I collect vinyls and CDs, everything is better and sounds better on vinyl❤️
I love vinyl, but I'm not one of those purists who thinks that digital is terrible. Certainly when CD's debuted in the early 80s, they were awful. The record companies would merely digitize the vinyl master and slap it on a disc, and the results were predictably horrendous. Today, however, with advanced mastering techniques, the CD has caught up...just in time for it to go the way of the dodo bird as digital downloads become the predominant format. MP3 (or whatever lossy equivalent you want to mention) has sent us back to the stone age in terms of sonic fidelity, which is, in my opinion, the main driving force behind the move back to vinyl for younger listeners. In addition, everyone wants to HOLD something tangible while listening to music, and there's nothing to hold onto while listening to an MP3. Personally, I listen to vinyl at home and FLAC in the car and at work - it's really the best of both worlds.
***** Exactly. Why does one have to think one is better than the other? Vinyl and FLAC FTW!
Christopher Gadbois Advanced mastering techniques? do you mean the loudness and brickwalled compression added to 85% of cd's released these days, I think we've come full circle with cd, it sounded terrible back in the 80s got better and sounded much better in the 90s and now because of the loudness war cd sounds actually worse than in the 80s, crazy!
I remember sitting listening to a record back in the 1970s and because there was power cuts here in the UK at that time, as the lights suddenly went out, the record would slow down to a stop and the voice of the singer would lower in pitch. Then, as the lights went back on, it would go from lower to higher pitch as the record returned to its correct speed lol. I would of course put the record away if it was dark for more than a few minutes. Ah, those were the days.
David Mander Or the gurgling sound just as the tape got eaten by the Walkman (gasp!)
David Mander Lol and then you put fresh batteries in and thought ''Bloody hell that's fast''.....
pure truth...VINYL
The only time when I but CDs these days is if it has bonus material not available on vinyl.
I have CDs and vinyl and have some from the same master I prefer CDs over vinyl because they don't ware out and no pops and crackles but I do like buying used vinyl for just a few dollars that's cool !
Vinyl just sounds way better than mp3 or may be cds. I play my vinyl on a technics turtable play back on a harman-kardon reciver with infinity speakers. Is just the best! Cheers from L.A california
What I love most about these vinyl collectors is that they have thousands and thousands of pounds or dollars worth of music and they persist on playing it on some shit turntable
do these people love music or vinyl???
Kinda ironic how in the vid they're talking about great sound while the audio quality of the video itself is not too good. They should have used better mics, but otherwise a very true documentary.
Maybe someone can answer this. Avid record collector. Recently I got into a group that ONLY has CD's and digital downloads. Amazing band. So, I paid a bit of money and had Vinylify (in the Netherlands) cut a record, 10" vinyl 33rpm of 4 of their tracks. The MP3's I sent them were the one's I bought directly from Amazon's music service. I had played those MP3's quite often. When the record came in it played most AWESOME. Here's the kicker. The 1st song always had soft passages with noises and such at the first few seconds and I never could make out what they were saying. I suspected it wasn't mean to be understood. On the vinyl, I could make out for the first time the words. Why is that? It's the same MP3 just on vinyl. I thought it was interesting to say the least.
Well, they both were played on the same amplifier but one (MP3) was via Bluetooth from different devices, a tablet and a cell phone, and the other (vinyl) was played over a nice turntable. Yeah, I thought that as well.
Surface noise , audio range and all that isn’t my no 1 concern. I just like the way of listening , to my music of choice , on vinyl. To me , it feels more dedicated , experiencing tunes on my turntable. I listen on cd and streaming too , and likes the convenience of making my own playlists on spotify. But if I had to choose , I’d stay with vinyl. Nothing wrong with one or the other. It’s just personal choises.
Loved it. :)
anyone have any idea what turntable this lady is using ...many thanks x
To be honest, the one in the lady's room looks like the cheapest and crappies you could ever get. It looks quite exactly like a "DJ Tech USB" "Scout" and so on. I had one of those and immediately sold it. I would never maltreat my vinyl's surface on such a stiff table, the tonearm mount isn't even tight either on those china-plastic TTs, it wobbles/clickers around like crap. ;) Design/optic of the TT maybe is ok on first sight (- but already the alu table rim looks cheap on all of those, no stroboscope there, just cheap bold lines- ), but the rest - uhhmmm no please not.. .
Any recommendations then as you seem to know what you're talking about ...reasonably priced as well we were looking at stanton
I must add my husband said pretty much the same as you about it looking cheap and nasty ...no disrepect to the woman in the video
MarkandNettyBailey I would recommend a good direct drive turntable such as a Technics SL1210 or similar. Pair that with a decent Ortofon stylus, and that's a decent setup for a reasonable amount of money. Unless you want to go into audiophile territory of course, which is very very expensive.
I don' t mind the high fidelity aspect or the pureness of sound. I remember the flap-flap in the record shop while choosing my favourite album, spending ernormous amounts of money (20 deutschmark) when i was young. My first Technics record player with the stroboscope, the crackling before the first song, the foldout cover, the liner notes and sleeves with the lyrics.....sigh
both medium have advantage and disadvantage... in a great hi-fi set up, CD sound clean, on the other hand, vinyl sound much alive. CD main advantage is the simplicity aspect of it, and vinyl will give you the overall experiences in listening to music -- which I think we all should experience it, however, at the end its subject to your owned preferences.
Any vinyl can be recorded to CD to get the same sound quality with CD.
Perry...my music experience has shown me that vinyl has more tone and overall sound quality. I have a good friend who uses an oscilloscope to check out his records. A lot of time, newer records are simply recorded louder so people think they are better, when in effect the top and bottom notes are cut off and the volume is raised so that people just hear it louder and think it is better. Case in point Jimi Hendrix original pressings have a wider audio range than the current re-releases. You can see this on an oscilloscope where the highs and lows are cut off. But the new re-releases sound better to most people because the volume is set higher.
Another thing that needs to be addressed is MP3S. They are a lossy type of compression, and lose some of the quality of the sound. I trade in APE or monkey audio, and FLAC format. These are easily decoded using a program like Traders Little Helper. These 2 formats are lossless formats . What you record and compress ends up the same sounding after decompression. No loss of quality. Most of us can't hear the difference in the music anyway. Just my opinion, and I could be wrong...
Like I said, probably 95%of us can't hear the hi snd low note differences anyway. :-)
I'm not going to argue about format technicalities, but I believe that there should be one standard for domestic, professional and portable music. Vinyl, reel to reel and compact cassette are the oldest popular formats for those purposes and the market should stay that way.
TO BIG, TO SCRATCHY, TO MUCH CARE AND UP KEEP, NOT PORTABLE, NEED TO DROP SERIOUS $$$ TO "ENJOY" IT. PURE NOSTALGIA AND ROMANCE.
nah. I've never once even held a vinyl but somehow I really want to start a collection. So I call bs on your nostalgia claim (though it may be half true for the older generations)
i hate vinyl scratches, i really do sometimes i have scratched for no reason whats so ever, i ordered a copy of bjorks vespertine, it came with a skipable scratch wich made a poppping sound and then a normal scratch on undo. i really like vinyl but i dont really want to buy any more
Vinyl is our sacred place of really enjoying music. CDs i couldn't store them. Vinyl i still have about four hundred albums i never sold off. The process of record cleaning and buying high end turntable and cartridge is my love of music. Streaming is ok but vinyl is the foundation of discovering progressive music, I love the new 10 inch 45 RPM
I think that vinyl in the beginning was The Sword- High Country UK special addition. Fucking cool.
I love records and CDs both.
Nothing can't beat the audio quality from a vinyl. It contains more khz then a cd. A vinyl can reach the khz of 96000 then a CD or compact disc can only recive 44100khz. Keep on the fight vinyl's! =D
Love and respect of a music lover.
Completely wrong. CD beats it easily. More KHz than a CD? You have no idea what you are talking about. While you may prefer the sound of vinyl, it in no way can match the quality of a CD in terms of distortion and dynamic range.
Todd Green In dynamic range wins the compact disc. But think of this. Lay back into the coch and hear the classic vinyl sound. Anyway. as we all know. It's a different formats of cd and vinyl. =)
What I said. If you enjoy vinyl, great! Just don't claim it is "better".
DMTM You are fooling yourself. Vinyl's frequency response is non linear and rolls off significantly after 16khz. So for the relevant frequency range up to 20khz (I'm assuming you're not a dog or a bat) CD will reproduce those higher frequencies more capably than vinyl. More importantly is the resolution, or detail, of the music. CD with 16 bits has a dynamic range of at least 98db while vinyl is closer to 70db which is about 10-12 bits in the digital world, equivalent to a mid range lossy file. Having said that, I agree keep on fighting vinyl but please base it on facts.
the thing with records is it commands your attention, on a computer or phone....you control the music, its instinct to stop it to check your facebook or whatever, with Records the music controls you and you are under its physical spell,
you have to hold your pee in because you want to hear the end of the song. its an experience. and you find you enjoy listening to the album as a whole as it should be. and in a strange contradiction,,,, in a world of any song at your finger tips,, you may actually end up listening to more music and songs you wouldn't normal find the time for. you may actually end up listening to more music.