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- Опубликовано: 30 авг 2011
- Sales of vinyl records around the world are higher than they've been since 1991. Long pronounced dead, vinyl has reestablished itself, and is enjoying fresh popularity.International artists have their LPs and singles pressed by the Pallas company in Diepholz. Pallas is a family operation - Europe's last bastion in the vinyl record market. Now the Beastie Boys have commissioned Pallas to manufacture their newest LP. A report by Jana Wochnik- Sachtleben.
we still need vinyl records!
I agree so make sure they are available 4 ever
The only problem is the Germans use rough paper inner sleeve bags instead of soft poly lined or Nagaoka inner sleeves. That is why German vinyl ALWAYS have scuffs and scratches even when brand new...those who have bought NEW and even SEALED German records know what I mean. Also they pack their records too loose and they always have spine splits when they export them to other countries. That is something the Germans could improve on
The Sun Will Rise Again most plants use standard paper.
@Sergey B. why have you writen in Russian? if you can read an English comment?
@Sergey B. the meaning of your words are lost through the automatic translation
@Sergey B. I actually can't copy your text on my phone. Oh well.
cömplainin about stöne age täCH v v ?
but reel was 4 dr´´$ ?
Vinyl Records are more fun to listen than cd
I agree I always try and get any new album on record instead of cd
Teo Jun Hao I'm bored of listening to cds and digital formats... I want this Medieval technology back !!!
way better man If you can get a good mono of late 58 to 59 it was when the mono LP reached its best perfection in technical terms, CDs are convenient but in no way as good let alone better and you can chose a cartridge to suit your taste too
Not just more fun, sound way better..cds skip and scratch 10 times worse than vinyl, screw cds. Analog sound = best sound
Thats true
No fans of vinyl do NOT want popping or crackling. That's BS.
Then take care of the record and use a good turntable and you won't have that! Vinyl rules.
sometimes you buy a lot of 100 records or more and you cant get away from that some records are older then me so i cant help that i try and use that to my advantage
I know just one and he says it adds character lol.
I agree, the poping and crackling is not really a good thing for the record. I have a few that do crackle but they are set aside till I can get a cleaner, however i have many that sound better than my cd's and radio signal.
Trapped In Time totally mindless.
I NEVER stopped loving vinyl. I am still collecting more and more to this day. 48 years old, I can't get enough vinyl
Pallas is so good. Contrary to the narration, it's actually not that cute to hear pops and hisses on new records. 😁 A good new record, once cleaned properly, should sound impeccable--if well recorded, mastered, pressed, and played on a nice system it should sound like the musicians are playing a small live set just for you.
We tolerate some noise on older records, but it's not really the main feature of vinyl listening.
As they mentioned, sometime the cracles and pops are intentional in modern music to evoke the times of past, that's why he looks at the grooves rather than listening to the music itself, awesome video! Thanks, greetings from Texas, USA 😃
DJs at loveparade wanted records not for scratching, but regular mixing records to play music
Let me be the first to say that I don't collect Vinyl but an old 1948 analog Format making a come back is the reason why I'm here.
Why - if Pallas is so proud about the quality of its records - do we have to see on the back sides of those record covers that they are "Pressed in the European Union"? How on the earth will I be able to see which country they are manufactured in, as I used to in the 1970s and 80s? One of those 28-1 countries might have pressed the vinyl. Don't we have any right to know where exactly they are made?
Pallas presses some of the best quality records in the world
My question is: Do they use distilled water to do all the cleaning and rinsing of the records? I would think it would have to be pretty pure because particles in the water I would think could damage the masters.
What company did you get your silver station from. Did you make it
Hum I prefer the soft plastic lining.
Very educational for my fav medium. My records & covers are a joy👏👏👏✌🏼
i hope turntable and reel to reel is come back
That machine dropping that record into the sleeve like that. Ugh...
Yes! Quality control gives the thumbs up and we drop them into a paper sleeve not only giving a ready made seam split, but possibly putting scratches on it as well!
Pallas is very good, very nice records.
Thanks Sard House, Sounds like you get what I'm trying to say...looking for the ability to actually make the records rather than pay someone else to do it for me. Hoping there's a way to insert a blank record and have the machine cut it BUT it looks as though I have to make the Master (long process, heavy machinery, lots of chemicals, more industrial) then press a handsize pile of vinyl on it and press it. Is doing it the old school way the only process that you know of?
Wow that ending was Death Toll 60k grindcore band vinyl
The German pressings are better then Japanese
no
Dutch pressings from the record industry at Haarlem is Europe’s finest.
Back in the days of shellac, the British were best; the British empire had a shellac production monopoly.
How so ????
Totally agree !!! ... Japanese pressings are less low freq and disturbing high freq... Ask any audiophile fan.
Vorsprung durch Technik
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If I have option I would go for records
Fans of vinyl do not want popping and cracking!
German pressings are very good as are Dutch. I find French and Italian high calibre as well. I love Japanese press too, there is a reason they fetch good prices, because other people know this as well. Can usually get German and Dutch pressings cheap. Not Japanese.
Interesting that he's using a classic Gerrard 301 turntable. Gerrard 301's and Thorens TD124's are still the best, some 60 years on.
At the beginning, this is not pressing, its mother disc.
Weiter so!
me hands are spasmodic but oddly goes steady when handling record needles
Awesome! I'm trying to locate a place in the USA to press some vinyl for me. Do you mind me asking where you are and who you are using for production?
YES. I FOUND THE VIDEO AGAIN.
UK pressings always were and will be the best you can all disagree but it's true and you know it
Thanks Sard House. What I'm wanting to do is make vinyl records from a digital source (cd, music file etc) and I'm having a hard locating a machine to purchase that would allow me to do it. What got me interested was a friend of mine who is a vinyl scratch dee jay asking me to make him records from his recording. I already duplicate cd's for him and I want to expand my service to him.
Any ideas much appreciated, all that I've found so far are homemade science contraptions. Nothing manufactured
Holger Neumans Shirt reads: Die Erde ist eine Scheibe. wich means: "The Earth is a slice." We wouldn´t say "The earth is flat", we´d say that. Funny thing is "Scheibe" or slice we use for Records, too. xD
I'd translate eine Scheibe as a disc in this context.. "the earth is a disc"
Good!!!
Thanks! I want to purchase the machine to do it and that's what I'm finding impossible. I can't find a manufacturer that sells the machine.
Like I was saying earlier I have an awesome cd duplicator that spits out 500 an hour and I keep it pretty busy with various clients, The vinyl machine would be a great asset to my arsenal. Any idea of any machine makers?
Sooory to hound you I'm just really excited! Cheers-John USA
One thing though. I don't want cracks and pops on my records. Not even intentional one's. Your time working for DJs who would want that is probably why you think I want it too. I do like the cracks and pops, but I get enough of them after I play a record a couple times.
Why can’t American pressing plant have THIS sort of quality control???
James Reeno Well, I think they can, but.., do they want to? Germans are very precisely and there's German saying: When you are doing something, you do it good or not.
Because American workers get lazy after a time. No pride in their work. They're just there for the paycheck to eat and pay their phone bill and Netflix bill.
James Reeno samericans are lost. They want everything but they don't want to work for it and get somebody else in another country to do it and then expect to get it for free because they deserve it. America has gone soft while the rest of the world embraces reality. Sorry if this sounds harsh but this is what happens when you get indulge in the drink too much.
Brad Hargis I agree with you100%!!!
We can, and do make superior Lp's. Check out www.acousticsounds.com for example.
have nine 9 disc. metal masters. want to find out what is on them there is numbers in graded into each one ..
you can actually play them
I hope one day the island of Jamaica will start to press & issue quality vinyl records, with artistic jackets...
Yeah, and with the hole in the middle. Would be nice. And maybe even a centered label.
One can dream can't one?
Theres a video on here of them wacking the centre holes out with a hammer. QC on Jamaican records? Forget it.
muito bom
omg he uses a Garrard 301 only for cutting vinyl
Rad.
Death Toll 80k at the end!
I enjoyed records for long time and I still have my collection, but it is strictly bookshelf ballast now, as I sold off my beloved Technics SL1800 Mk II turntable a few years ago and went all digital. It performed immaculately for about 40 years and it was still in pristine condition when I parted with it. I kind of miss playing with it from time to time.
It's a shame Pallas screwed the pooch with the U.S Super Deluxe version of Led Zeppelin "Houses Of The Holy". "The Ocean" has a massive distortion in the left channel. The European version is fine. Oh well, $120 down the drain.
Very good news
Hi end turntable ; A Ferrari with wooden wheels .
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death toll 80k harsh realities
How about some Cannibal Corpse 🤘🏻😈🤘🏻
Disappointing to see that a record was pressed in about 5 seconds. Japanese records are far superior and record plant will take a minimum of 20 seconds to press one record, and it shows
capitolemiproducer: Sorry, I worked with pressing plants at JVC in Japan, and Telefunken in Germany, both worked the same, and at my plant in Burbank CA, using Toolex Alpha presses, our vinyl was equal or even superior to JVC Japan. The main difference in Japan was quality control and the vinyl PVC they used.... extreme CLEAN ROOMS, where the records were pressed, and because of U.S. environmental restrictions, the chemical stabilizers in the Japanese vinyl made them better, too. U.S. vinyl could not use the same chemical catalyst after 1974 or so, and why U.S. vinyl prior to that is still so good. A lot of this history is lost. If you are at all connected to Capital Records pressing, then you should know this guy, he hired me, and taught me the pressing business:
patents.justia.com/inventor/csaba-k-hunyar
how many records are pressed by each Master B4 its discarded i was told in general is about 10,000 n the Best recordings are after the first few are stamped as the Master slowly deteriorates as more are pressed, also told that for collectors who know what to look for the first ones stamped are the most valuable is this correct? and are new vinyls made from original analogue master recordings from high speed tape or from digital masters as this will defeat the object somewhat? and what i know for a fact is that MONO recordings sound the best as it was never possible to introduce two channels on a grove as it was with a single channel as from all my music by far the most dynamic n live sounding n pleasing is a 1959 Elvis MONO LP same songs on a stereo LP or CD do Not sound like nothing as good by 1960 stereo came into LPs i hardly play some of my precious LPs EPs n singles as i worry in case i scratch them
Records have been made from a digital source for a very long time, in fact I think they go through a digital delay first anyway...I think it defeats the purpose...I laugh hard when bands think there record which was recorded on 16bit 44.1khz multitrack, mixed to 44.1khz 16 bit CD sounds warmer on record
two things first i totally agree with you a record must be made from a 15 ips multitrack tape to be called Analogue, i compared many records to CDs Santana's Abraxa WHO'S next dire straits n few others and ALL the vinyls had a smoother treble maybe not reaching as high as many CDs (but am more interested in a sound i love than been clinically a "correct" sound) the overall sound you may say was more musical n the bass deeper softer Not hard at all n far more satisfying you hear it better you feel it better by the way one of my very best sounding Records its a 1959 ELVIS IN MONO as two sound sources could never be pressed on the micro grove of a stereo LP, n be as good as a mono and yes all my vinyls i converted to digital using the German SOUND FORGE programme do sound better warmer more "musical you may say n a lot more enjoyable i Never said or meant an LP from a digital source can be better than the original at best it can be a perfect copy
yup, that is hilarious. I only buy vinyl when the album was recorded/mixed/mastered analogue. Which was almost everything up to the late 80's. After that, it rarely pays to go analog. If people would just stop being so cheap and buy a good DAC like HEGEL. Instead they buy a USB turntable which is terrible and go "wow the music is so warm"
polygamous1 Sozou I like records , as long as I'm not forced to listen to that dull MONO! stereo is bliss!
polygamous1 Sozou no such thing as “vinyls”.
I NEED SOME 12" OR 7" MAKE .LET ME KNOW PLEASE
I doesn't bother me
That's part of playing
records.
Toney Isaiah nope
Pops and crackle isn’t part of it
It’s a flaw
I’m ok with with on used records but that should happen on new rewcords
Sir, no record is perfect.
handle with care then no scrtach God sake
We have a vinyl record plant in Rio Brazil.
how many records grow each year
Only 10.000 copies. but we still work to do more. yesss
good marcos I always try and buy vinyl always preferred records more bass and no digital nonsense
Me too, i love the vinyl frequency.
Ok , maybe the Kramer master tape , fantastic analogic tape, it's a dream , but the owner of the new vinyl factory in São Paulo says, "the totaly record system" i will make in analogic, with analogic master tape.
THose are the same machines that made the Stahlhelm for the Waffen SS during World War 2. Great that it is multipurpose.
I like zee winyl.
i recorded many vinyls on to CDs using sound forge n they actually sounded smoother than ready made CDs even HD cds are pretty close when CDs first hit the market in the 80s they where terrible very hard treble little bass the reason many of my rich friends bought Valve amps to smoother the sound somewhat, they are a Lot better now but No way can they compete with good quality vinyls and a good cartridge different world never needed a valve amp as i'll always been using AR speakers n they are in general a very smooth warm full sound
When the recording and mastering is done right a CD will sound superior to even the best vinyl because there are so many technical limitations with vinyl.
It's actually the opposite. Most of my vinyl records do sound better than their CD counterparts because they are cut from better quality masters. Some of them are absolutely identical in any aspect after a digital capture + comparison. This is when you can easily spot they were poorly mastered from CDs.
polygamous1 Sozou what are “vinyls”???
polygamous1 Sozou you again?? Go back to English class and learn how to write a paragraph!
and they STILL use those awful paper sleeves :)
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I can't believe this! Instead of going backwards the music industry should introduce a new high definition audio disc. A Blu-Ray disc with uncompressed audio tracks, 24-bit, 192Khz. Studio quality music at home! this is how music should be in the 21st century!! Screw vinyl!
Cause that makes sense? Because it's 2018 screw anything that's not from this year? There's a reason vinyl records have been around forever and are making a comeback. Nobodies gonna pay blue ray prices for a CD that supposedly sounds better. In reality, your car stereo speakers aren't gonna show you the difference between a regular CD and a "blue ray cd" type audio disc.
I would actually be interested in vinyl if the damn things arent so expensive and + you have alot of maintaining to do like... cleaning records removing static etc just to start listening... which is annoying and off putting for me.
Pays your money and makes your choice
Mike Hobson et al released dozens of titles on 24/ 192k.
They already did SACD, DVD-Audio, and Blu-Ray HFPA years or decades ago. Aside from being multichannel, nobody can hear the difference from CD.
Oh, my, since Hitler passed, the intelligence in Germany has lowered. But, hey, even Bear Family (of Germany) is desperate and now offers vinyl records, even though the music grows dead.