How to maintain TRACTION without risking an OTB on Your Mountain Bike | PRESSURE CONTROL
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Pressure Control is the essence of riding a mountain bike safely: In this video you will find the answers to these questions:
- How to find grip and maintain maximum traction on loose terrain?
- How to avoid going over the bars?
- Why you do not want to feel heavy in your hands!
- Why heavy feet light hands is so essential
- How to get traction while riding steep and loose mountain bike trails?
- What is pressure control?
- How to achieve balance, stability and control on your mtb?
To grip or to slip is “just” a matter of maintaining a balanced stance and pressure control! And in this video I show and explain the HOW TO of these rather abstract-sounding concepts.
I delved into the physics of traction a few years ago. Don’t worry, I will not bore you with the detailed physics of riding and the physics of grip… Instead, I hope to convey the essence of balanced riding in easy-to-grasp and easy-to-apply concepts - because BALANCE is what you need to maintain grip.
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Timeline:
3:55 What to do if your rear tire is skidding?
6:10 How to keep traction on your front tire? Why leaning your bike is important in corners.
6:45 Do you need pressure in your hands to maintain traction on your front wheel?
8:20 Why pressure in your hands can be super dangerous when riding
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Excellent demonstration!
Thank you 🙏
My riding improved a lot, heavy feet works for me in bike control, thanks Roxy you are a true certified trail boss.
So happy to hear!
Another home run Roxy!!!!!!! "Become the pilot instead of the passenger" is my end goal and with your breakdown videos, I know why I don't feel confident on my bike. BASIC SKILLS are what I'm working on and I'm loving every minute! By the way I recommend your videos to my customers at the bike shop where I work at and they love your explanations and enthusiasm. Thank you so much for taking time to share your expertise and passion for. Biking!!!!!!!
THANK YOU for taking the time to comment!
Every time I watch your video and learn something. No one has ever explained this to me in a manner in which can be easily understood. Thank you
Thank you so much, that's my job - to make skills look easy and help you, learn them faster!
Excellent Roxy, I learn so much here. I wish I had these tech mechanics when I began years ago.
Thank you, Stephen. Have you started my free Trackstand course on my coaching page yet? I believe you may find it helpful. We can’t turn back time but we can make the best of the next 10 years together 😊
I am so glad I found your channel. I think these lessons will help me with so many aspects of my riding. That front wheel suck and arm pump are probably because I have too much weight in my hands! You and Ben Cathro are top tier. Thank you - sharing.
Thank you so so much 😍
Thanks, Roxy. Your enthusiasm and ability to break down the principles of MTBing always leave me with a smile on my face. I wish I could afford to support you in your endeavor, but I don't have a lot of money.
Thank you so much for your comment. So happy to hear you appreciate my work.
Just like, share and comment - that is help enough 🥰😍
Sending my kindest regards!
You’re excellent at what you do. Out of all the instructional type videos that people do, I think you’re at the tippy top of all the creators. Props on the camera, and editing work too. 👍🏻
❤ thank you so so so much for taking the time to share your appreciation ❤ very grateful for you! Have fun practicing 😊
Your videos are exceptional. So many mtb channels talk about weighting the front tire to get front wheel traction (turning etc). then in there videos, you can see they are applying weight thru the pedals- hence centralized. so both your “words” and video examples actually make tons of sense!!
Thank you, Jerome, very very grateful for you comment! Oh yes, it often drives me crazy to see that pros DO exactly what I teach, but say a lot of contradictory things. But of course it's normal - they are pros - they are being paid to RIDE, not teach 😅 It's a whole different skill set. The problem, however, is, that many riders trust them more than a pro coach 😬 🤔
@@Roxybike_Ride.and.Inspire In my business career I called that being an “unconscious competent” - ie one knows how to do it but could not explain it or teach because they didn’t quite know HOW they were being successful. You are a “conscious competent” ( that’s the best)!!! And of course “ unconscious incompetent” … steer clear of that. … haha
@@jeromep4148 absolutely- the 4 levels of competency. I use this principle a lot during my mental trainings 😊
The most dangerous part is being unconsciously incompetent (not knowing what we don’t know) - and that’s definitely one of the most common causes for stagnation.
@@Roxybike_Ride.and.Inspire i used the approach with my sales teams: “if successful - why?, and if unsuccessful why?”. this is the key to repeatability!! nice to hear someone else familiar with this.
@@jeromep4148 absolutely 😍
In case you don’t know these videos yet, I believe you may like them:
Learning to ride a Mountain Bike | DON‘T commit these mistakes! ❌
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The Mountain Bike Skills Algorithm | Your Missing Link to Progress your MTB-Skills FASTER!
ruclips.net/video/N4B3OcSReCc/видео.html
Why NOT to Drop Both Heels - Most Overlooked MTB Skills Element to Ride Like A Pro
ruclips.net/video/VgddegvDvzU/видео.html
Today I really worked with heels up and down after my climb up. I was on a roadway for this exercise climb. Also leaning the bike at speed around the snaky road I was on with light hands. It was very good. Thank you.
Hi Robert. So awesome to hear you’re taking the skills to the trails. Please take it slow and always take care not to lean to far back ☺️ and to practice on very easy terrain first. It’s impossible to apply newly learnt knowledge in a situation where you are distracted.
Maybe this video will clarify:
ruclips.net/video/k2Mv2PqYVEQ/видео.html
Enjoy!!
Very good explanation!
Thanks a lot, Bill!
Amazing, well done on the explanation Roxy. Evidence based demo, not just this is how its done.
Thanks Andrew!
I’ve learned so much from these videos… I find myself washing out sometimes at relatively high speeds with my front tire. After watching this, I think I’m leaning with too much weight on the grips. Thanks, can’t wait to try your tips out!
Thanks Daniel, either it’s about too mich weight or too little 😀
Or you steer too much for the speed, lean too much with the body, or brake too hard. There are several possible reasons, but one very common is loss of pressure control.
So happy to help!
Front wheel wash out is quite common and many times happens unexpectedly. Something else that helps with this is 1. Speed control 2. Know your terrain/any super loose spots? 3. Look ahead when riding at speed and pay attention to which direction your body mass is being projected, sometimes you need to direct your mass into the “safest most secure part of the trail”
8:15 Thanks for that one.
Just to make sure I dont washout in a corner, as I ride between cars I do be balace at al times (all times) but at most corners I pedal to get spped and put my 84kilos on the front tire for it to bite the asphalt and make sure I dont go under a car coming from the oposite direcction, yes I use MTB and learning to ride aggressive and defensive.
sorry for any bad spelling, I speak spanish but I do understand english in a perfect way.
Full of great tips. You’re a star. Thanks !
Thanks so much, John. I actually think this video is one of my most important ones here on YT. Happy you found it!
Tip: Watch it again in a few days and I guarantee you, you will recognise some new details that will have a big impact :-)
awesome tips as always! appreciated the clear explanation of why balance is key to ultimate traction, stay safte
Thanks 🙏 Ronnel! Stay safe, too!
Thanks for the awesome video! I feel like I'm doing well staying balanced in most riding situations. However, I still seem to be getting off-balance in cornering situations. Especially with steeper bermed corners I feel like I might be leaning back away from the corner which is causing front wheel washouts.
Hi Eli, that is a very common issue. A very effective tip for bermed corners is to avoid dropping both heels. Instead, use your rear foot in a more heel-up-position to push your body forward ie to maintain pressure control and therefore grip on your front wheel. Try it out 😊 it does wonders…
@@Roxybike_Ride.and.Inspire thanks for the tip! I'll give it a try.
Thanks again Roxy for another great video. This is a great topic and one which has taken me years to understand, (and still always learning). If it had been explained to me like this years ago, I might have got it quicker! There’s so much bad advice with no real reason why things should be done a certain way. I really like how you get into the “why”as well as the “how”. You rock🤘🏼
Thank you so much for this lovely comment. I am so happy to hear this. And YES I can relate to this in so many ways. It took me years to understand the physics of riding and I just WISH someone would’ve explained it to me in the beginning. Which is why I’m so eager to share this insight - I am truly hoping I can help riders become safer quicker. And yes, same here, still learning 🤗🤗 every day is a school day 😍
@@Roxybike_Ride.and.Inspire I will have to watch more of your videos and try the recommendations. You are the first presenter to explain why something works using the physics relating to the situation. Once I know that, it is easier for me to replicate what you are suggesting. It may be the other presenters have figured it out without actually understanding all the physics involved.
@@philso7872 happy to hear my philosophy resonates :-) enjoy my videos!
10:23 this is exactly what happened to me lol
Very informative vid, Thanks Roxy.
Happy to hear you know what caused the crash. That is why I am not a fan of teaching to “push the bars forward” on steps and roll-downs, instead I teach just allowing the bike to move forward by gently extending the arms.
The key is to always stay heavy and balanced through the feet and only use weight in the hands intentionally and very mindfully, only when needed (eg for rear wheel lifts)
Thanks.
Roxy, do you ever ride a hard tail? I am wondering if I should have gone with a full suspension bike, but I love my hardtail so far. I am starting at the bottom of your pyramid and working up! Your training makes sense to me. I like to think about the science behind developing as a rider.
Hi Troy, I do also ride Hardtail, but not very often, as the terrain is VERY chunky where I ride. But Hardtails are great and totally sufficient for many trails - I just find full suspension bikes more comfortable.
@@Roxybike_Ride.and.InspireMakes sense! I ride on the road and gravel roads most of the time, but once I start doing more rocky terrain I may get a dual for that (comfort) and keep my hardtail for riding with my Doberman and gravel paths.
The stepdown with the rock demo was amazing! I haven't done any OTBs in similar scenarios, but I remember 1-2 close encounters with my stem. 😅
You've mentioned that only the front heel needs to be dropped - that's interesting. I always thought you need to push both down and I'm purposely aiming to do so. And now that I think about it - almost always it's the back foot that tend to slip from the pedal.
SO so happy to help. Have you watched my riding position breakdown? ruclips.net/video/SydGB5NN3Zg/видео.html
I go into more detail about the foot wedge there. The thing is - the most natural position for our ankle is 90 degrees. Now what happens if you go into the position you’re riding (feet a foot apart in the step-position like on the pedals)? Right, your front heel is dropped and the rear one is not 😉
If you now forcefully push down both - what happens to your weight? It falls backwards…
Makes sense?
@@Roxybike_Ride.and.Inspire I've seen it and it did helped me to realize that I basically need to do a hip hinge with a slight bend in the knees. But apparently I missed some things.
It totally makes sense, especially now that I think about the times my foot met the pins - always the shin get shredded - because my weight is too far back and my foot slips down and back.
@@dkgray828 yes, totally. Just go ahead and watch the position breakdown again - that's the major advantage of online coaching and online skills videos - you can watch them as many times as you want/need. In a "real" coaching you can only hear the instructor once :-D
So happy to hear it makes sense. Once you understand why, you've got the tools to correct it! Ride on!
This is so basic people dont get it.....thanks for this tips!
Common sense is not common practice ☺️
The coefficient of friction dictates lean angle and speed. Just like radius determine speed. 👍 friction is both friend and foe, but critical nonetheless. Great video Roxy.
Btw, I utilize my middle finger on the rear break my index finger on the front brake. This way I have more of my hand around the grip and on the bar
Agreed! Thank you 😊
Sei perfetta nelle spiegazioni!
Grazie mille 🙏
@@Roxybike_Ride.and.Inspire davvero bravissima! Sarebbe bello un giorno poter fare un corso con te! Sei Top!
@@lucac.1586 You can work with me from home, Luca. Start with my free course here: roxybike.podia.com/trackstand-challenge-drill-to-skill-with-roxy 🙂
I think your great ideas are better illustrated (more) than lectured. Show the idea while riding.
Thanks for the comment. Often, we need to have clear instruction without distractions.
I believe you’ll like these videos though:
Pro MTB Tips - More Control in Steep + Loose Terrain
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Why NOT to Drop Both Heels - Most Overlooked MTB Skills Element to Ride Like A Pro
ruclips.net/video/VgddegvDvzU/видео.html
Hello Roxy,
Ok now i understand why i go foreward on my bike in some situations 👍
But also Hope brakes are difficult in modulation
Thanks a lot😉
So happy to hear! How is the Trackstand course going?
@@Roxybike_Ride.and.Inspire yep by the way i m really sorry but i've followed all instructions you gave me, check different times but impossible to find it. I think i have problem with mail box. Next month i ll have more time to check that problem. And follow your trackstand course👍
Love your videos. Great to see if there are any skills of mine that are missing. Could you go more in depth with this subject? Like at a pump track or getting over obstacles or features? Keep up the good work
So happy to hear!
That’s a great idea, thanks!
I’ll think about how I can do that. Thanks for the comment 😍
Oh but actually, the essence and the principle doesn’t really change to get over obstacles or pump 😊😊 So as a default, you want to stay balanced on your feet - and this is one of the most essential fundamentals. And only when you’ve automatized this balanced stance, then the next step is deliberately leaving it, but only to perform specific maneuvers.
@@Roxybike_Ride.and.Inspire yes, but there are a ton of maneuvers that require shifting weight: pump tracks and pumping the bike, unweighting the front, then rear wheel when going over an obstacle or 2. This is done when the features don't require a wheel lift. I guess I would like to see your take on it.
@@paulmanias8269 great, thanks 🙏 Will do 😊😊
Do you already know this video of mine? ruclips.net/video/zr1-jQehyPA/видео.html
I rode an indoor MTB park i ( Ray's indoor bike park) here. In the U.S.. while there were tons of wooden features, I focused on the pump track to apply Roxy's tips. It was a mental break through for me. I was able to overcome so fear and learn how weighting my feet differently affected each lap, all while indoors. I highly recommend it. Cheers!!!!
I think the misconception with weight distribution in corners sometimes goes with 'dirty' techniques such as shralping/braaping, which is inmensely popular between the youngsters, where you need to put some weight of your back wheel in order to achive desired braap sliding effect.
Maybe :-)
Subscribe done 👍❤️ thankyou 😊
Always great info Roxy. May I add that how rebound is adjusted also contributes to front wheel control/traction. In rough chunk, rebound that is too fast bounces the suspension/tire off the chunk too quickly which decreases control. Slowing down rebound keeps the tire on the obstacle longer which can improve control. Your thoughts?
Of course, there are several traction-determining factors, rebound being one of them. However, I believe for most riders improving body position and „pressure control“ will have much more of an impact as rebound adjustments will.
@@Roxybike_Ride.and.Inspire totally true Roxy. The basics, always. Keep up the great work!
@@richardcandelaria5826 Thanks Richard! If you would like to refine your foundation, make sure to check out my courses on www.roxybike-coaching.com - would love to take your skills to the next level!
That video is given more detailes than the german version. I am not so good in english since scool, so i must show it 2 or 3 times again to understand everething you say.
That’s the great thing about online coaching and online tutorials - you can watch them as many times as you want and you can even slow them down 🤓🙃
Thanks for being here!
@@Roxybike_Ride.and.Inspire Thats not what i mean. I am wondering about the differences between your language versions. Can you tell me something about this differences? Or is this in german only a tutorial and in english an online coaching? Thanks Roxie.
@@uwemoebus oh no, none of my videos are coaching. All of my videos are tips and tutorials. Coaching is PERSONAL and INDIVIDUAL - in my Coaching I find tools specific to my client, looking at his/her possibilities and then finding solutions that work for him/her - working on improving my clients’ abilities ideally and effectively.
I’m my language versions, I address topics that I believe are more relevant for that specific culture. In the German speaking Mountain biking scene there are other myths than in the English speaking world. Of course only generally speaking. Which is why sometimes I say things differently or go into different details. The physics behind both, however, is the same. So are the principles.
Plus: I always talk freely in my videos. Allowing my thoughts to flow. In English, different ideas come into mind than when I am speaking german. And I want to keep my videos as natural as possible 😊😊
Thanks for your question 😊 I hope this makes sense?
@@uwemoebus don’t worry, there are no stupid questions. I’m grateful for every person watching my videos, taking the time to think and comment about them. So thank you for being here!
Question, what about a steep loose descent with an upcoming, let’s say, ~90 degree turn? Where you’ll want to maintain grip going straight, then break before the turn, and then have pressure on both front and rear wheels through the turn to avoid either wheel slipping out. How would you go about a situation like this?
Thanks so much for the vids! Great stuff.
Hi Sky, unfortunately, I can not give you a default answer to this, as it depends on many factors. And it would be very unprofessional of me to give advice to you personally on this, as I don't know THE CAUSE of why it's not working as you would like it to work for you....
If I now give quick tips, I may be correcting one of your errors further up the skills pyramid and not the CAUSE of the error, which in turn will make the error worse, as you are now concentrating on something else.
BUT - all I can say is: the same physical principles apply, no matter whether you are on a steep, or flat, on a loose or grippy descent:
The goal is to ensure TRACTION and to apply your weight (the heavy mass) into the bike in such a way to make it EASY for the bike to roll over obstacles - and to know when to brake and when to avoid it.
Here are 2 videos that may help, if you watch them completely:
It's all in the feet: ruclips.net/video/VgddegvDvzU/видео.html
Skills Algorithm: ruclips.net/video/N4B3OcSReCc/видео.html
Braking: ruclips.net/video/GYbEde7ALe8/видео.html
Skills to practice ON Trails: ruclips.net/video/NXZqgoASG4Q/видео.html
...if you want personalized feedback and for us to work on your fundamentals (and more) - then you can become a Patron www.patreon.com/rideandinspire to get access to my mini fundamentals course and/or to unlock personalized coaching.
Hope this helps!
@@Roxybike_Ride.and.Inspire thanks much for the reply! appreciate it!
Im not so sure about the light hands heavy feet as it has caused my front wheel to wash out 😞 while cornering many times until..
Heavy feet, light arms and ACTIVE GRIP PRESSURE, which naturally keeps even grip/pressure on the front and back, plus leaning the bike will let you rip the corners.
This is how a local pro taught me and it works for me, loosing traction is now survivable cause the bike and rider slides together. 😟
Love your work Roxy! Especially your psychology clips.
Hi Murray, Did you watch my video? 🙂
Because that’s exactly what i say and describe in the video :-) that’s what BALANCE and PRESSURE CONTROL are about 😊
Pressure control means shifting your weight just ever so slightly - through micro movements in the feet, when we notice that we are loosing grip.
And if our front wheel washes out in corners, then we are either:
- Leaning the bike too much or too little for the speed we are going at
- too far rearward with our weight (ie have bad pressure control and are off with our balance)
- weighting the bike outside of the tire contact patch (eg the inside of our bars)
or
- braking too hard
Question Roxy. Do you have a vid trail climbing around rocks and debris? keep the front wheel down and rear-wheel heavy for traction. Also keeping forward motion. This one I battle. I might be screwing up due to keeping too much weight on the front wheel then which makes getting over an obstacle that much harder. being on an uphill popping wheelie over stuff with a cliff on one side does scare the pants off me. I have lost balance and put my foot down it when over the edge and over I went. Lucky did not get hurt. A tree stopped me from going all the way down. So that one likes in the back of my head as "Fear"
Hi Robert, I’m guessing this may help:
ruclips.net/video/jkAggvtgzr8/видео.html
So happy to hear you didn’t get hurt!
Knobs = Little Buddies.... Got it!
Tire pressure too for that matter.
Yes, true, and I do also say that in the video 😇😊☺️
Off-topic kinda. Why do so many motor scooters have accidents from scooters sliding out? Because your butt is where all weight is being applied. As with motorcycles you can immediately put pressure on your footpegs lowering the center of gravity and having body control. I now see this is the same in your teachings with pedals and crank and handlebar leverage. Thank you but once again.
Thanks Robert! So great to hear you find this information relatable to other areas 🤗😍
Hi from Malif1987
thanks! how wide are your handle bars?
74 cm :-) and I’m 158cm
What is the sqlab saddle model that you are using?
The SQlab 611 active endless summer - best saddle ever 😍
@@Roxybike_Ride.and.Inspire danke! Will get the same one. Thx!!
It’s bike dependent as front centre rear centre ratios are all over the place. Try telling an XL sized rider on an Evil to not weight the bars. Most bikes are nowhere near 50/50 at the BB.
It’s not about 50/50 but about weighting the tires ideally and introducing the heavy mass into the bike ideally to gain TRACTION and to ROLL OVER obstacles easily (the law of leverage comes into play mostly).
Pressure control is of course a dynamic process, just like riding a mountain bike is :-)
So if you have a very long XL bike and weigh the front a little more when you need grip, but have NO weight on it when your front needs to roll over things, THEN you’re achieving pressure control. More about this in this video:
How to maintain TRACTION without risking an OTB on Your Mountain Bike | PRESSURE CONTROL
ruclips.net/video/CUBZNVaPvkM/видео.html
Hint: watch the entire video 😊😊
I’ve been watching a bunch of videos and no one discussion on “seat position”.
Hi Jesus, what do you mean?
👍❤️🤝
OTB??
Over the bars 😊
Is no one going to mention the Dalmation? No one?
Hehe right?!
Yes. Outstanding cameo appearance.
Wow... excellent video... you're beautiful...
Thank you, Noel!
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