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Комментарии • 103

  • @nickbronson7988
    @nickbronson7988 2 месяца назад +11

    Dad was a career USMC pilot - flew in WWII, Korea and Vietnam. When he retired and bought a Cessna 172, he would never take off without reviewing his preflight checklist. Never. He was distrustful of pilots who do not follow that protocol.

  • @asteverino8569
    @asteverino8569 2 месяца назад +51

    These twin prop planes are very unforgiving when an engine is lost. I wouldn't have flown in this pane if I had heard about the oil consumption issue.

    • @bradmccullough1437
      @bradmccullough1437 2 месяца назад +6

      Why did they not ground the plane knowing it had the problem?

    • @nomdaploom
      @nomdaploom 2 месяца назад +10

      @@bradmccullough1437 At a guess, money. Planes that are grounded do not generate revenue.

    • @jerryhargis7730
      @jerryhargis7730 2 месяца назад +10

      Oil consumption monitoring is normal in many cases. Unless it is excessive. Maintenance may have needed more data to isolate the problem. The aircraft operating manual and Maintenance manuals would give the guidance on what would ground the aircraft.

  • @markwood5564
    @markwood5564 2 месяца назад +33

    Checklists save lives

    • @mattmcrae1458
      @mattmcrae1458 2 месяца назад

      I'm confused, not facetious -how would a checklist have revealed engine loss on takeoff?

    • @markwood5564
      @markwood5564 2 месяца назад +5

      @@mattmcrae1458 could have created awareness before V1, pilot continually ignored checklists. The video never addressed what caused the engine loss on take off which is a major unknown

    • @griam7641
      @griam7641 2 месяца назад +8

      If it was a friction lock problem, the checklist would have caught it. The throttles creeped back on their own because the locks were not set properly. In other words there was no engine failure, only a roll back of thrust due to the locks. All the pilot would have needed to do was reset the throttles.

  • @ouroboris
    @ouroboris 2 месяца назад +25

    Always a treat to see new content from Allec in my RUclips feed 😃

    • @stacked7476
      @stacked7476 29 дней назад

      Not sure if ‘treat’ is the right word to use here. Please be more sensitive and respectful. People died in this accident. If your mother had died on this plane you wouldn’t be saying it’s a treat.

    • @ouroboris
      @ouroboris 29 дней назад

      ​@@stacked7476 Don't be... silly. The word "treat" clearly refers to a new upload by an excellent content provider - one who is always sensitive and respectful to his subject matter and any who suffer in regard to aviation accidents. "Treat" has nothing to do with people suffering and dying.

  • @TheHaratashi
    @TheHaratashi 2 месяца назад +47

    On many fronts that pilot was a total dufus.

    • @deepthinker999
      @deepthinker999 2 месяца назад +5

      Well Said

    • @julosx
      @julosx 2 месяца назад +7

      Also, he was way too old to be a pilot carrying pasengers in a commercial flight.

    • @pamc4217
      @pamc4217 2 месяца назад +11

      ​@@julosx, That is incorrect. Age 65 is for FAR Part 121 Operations only. This flight was operated under Part 135, where the pilot can fly over 65, as long as they have a proper medical certificate.

    • @muffs55mercury61
      @muffs55mercury61 2 месяца назад +3

      Yes sounds like it. I wouldn't fly a plane with an engine issue like that.

    • @rtired7908
      @rtired7908 2 месяца назад +1

      Complacency, not age, was the issue.

  • @Dan.d649
    @Dan.d649 2 месяца назад +13

    I think there were three conflicting things that were bothersome as to why this terrible accident happened. One is the information received of the left engine with the oil issue. That was forwarded to the flight crew way before departure. Second is the inability to properly configure this airplane before the flight. Third is the lack of experience on the King Air from the first officer and poor communication within the cockpit. Had those necessary steps been taken, the crash would've probably been avoided. I feel sad for all that were lost. RIP ✝️

    • @jerryhargis7730
      @jerryhargis7730 2 месяца назад

      The oil consumption of the left engine being on monitor is a non-issue. I don't know what you are saying when you state "the inability to properly configure this airplane before the flight." Are you talking about the lack of checklist usage? If so, I agree with you. However, the aircraft was properly configured prior to take-off. The lack of experience by the "first officer" is a non-factor as well. This flight was conducted under Part 135 as a single pilot operation. There are many reasons why he was occupying the right seat, however, he was not a part of the official crew.

    • @guuiness
      @guuiness 2 месяца назад +1

      King airs usually are certified to be operated single pilot. However, many operators are not allowed solely due to insurance policy, so they bring a second pilot, who may likely not be type rated or experienced in the plane.
      I’ve done it once in a king air where I was a glorified radio guy. it wasn’t required to have a second person since it was a personal plane under part 91, but the PIC was 70 and the owner felt more comfortable having a second pilot there in case the PIC had a medical emergency in flight.

  • @donnabaardsen5372
    @donnabaardsen5372 2 месяца назад +19

    Excellent as always, Allec👍

  • @LynxAir2K10
    @LynxAir2K10 2 месяца назад +20

    Thank you for accepting my suggestions on Emirates Flight 764, RyanAir Flight 4102, GoAir Flight 811 and Yemenia Flight 626

    • @StephenLuke
      @StephenLuke 2 месяца назад +6

      Also China Airlines Flight 611.

    • @xr6lad
      @xr6lad 2 месяца назад +10

      269,000 subscribers. Yea it must all be down to you. Reflected Glory.

    • @ThisHandleFeatureIsStupid
      @ThisHandleFeatureIsStupid 2 месяца назад

      @@xr6lad Aimlessly aggressive reply.
      Touch grass, bud. 🙄

    • @Houndini
      @Houndini 2 месяца назад +2

      Sadly that just a start of the long list of accidents happened that way.

    • @travelwithtony5767
      @travelwithtony5767 2 месяца назад

      He doesn’t take your suggestions into consideration
      Sorry to disappoint, Mr Narcissist.
      lmao

  • @StephenLuke
    @StephenLuke Месяц назад +2

    RIP
    To the passengers and the two pilots of N534FF

  • @weofnjieofing
    @weofnjieofing 2 месяца назад +7

    Love this one remember it vividly and well covered by Blancolirio

  • @mbryson2899
    @mbryson2899 2 месяца назад +14

    The more I watch the less I value total flight hours. As a passenger I'm more interested in total takeoffs and landings.

  • @marcooconnor
    @marcooconnor 2 месяца назад +8

    RIP. Terrible way to go.

  • @dpfreedman
    @dpfreedman 2 месяца назад +7

    Multiple video angles of the crash are shown on the "What you haven't seen" RUclips channel. Absolutely horrific.

    • @1rem1Art
      @1rem1Art 2 месяца назад +1

      thanks for sharing

  • @Prairiesrock
    @Prairiesrock 2 месяца назад +1

    When you're sitting in a plane and your worst nightmare comes true.

  • @mateoenrique5279
    @mateoenrique5279 2 месяца назад +13

    Love your videos!

  • @ranchopatriot
    @ranchopatriot 2 месяца назад +10

    Enjoy your vids.

  • @martinross5521
    @martinross5521 2 месяца назад +11

    Could the oil consumption problem have triggered the left engine failure? Anyway, not doing checklists allows a problem to become a disaster.

    • @bigB6flyer
      @bigB6flyer 2 месяца назад +5

      Thing is, there was no actual engine failure. The friction lock not being properly adjusted cause the left power lever to move rearward, reducing its power output inducing a yawing tendency.

  • @rickwoods2352
    @rickwoods2352 2 месяца назад +2

    Rest in Peace Pilots and Passengers.

  • @GroomLeader
    @GroomLeader 2 месяца назад +2

    Another Captain Clown, way to go buddy.

  • @muffs55mercury61
    @muffs55mercury61 2 месяца назад +1

    Video of this crash exists as a security camera caught it.
    Fifi the flying B-29 is housed at this airport. It was moved from Midland, TX a few years back. I believe the CAF's B-24 is also at Addison.

  • @markb1764
    @markb1764 2 месяца назад +1

    So the pilot was informed of issues with the left engine and yet was surprised by its failure

  • @LynxAir2K10
    @LynxAir2K10 2 месяца назад +10

    I honestly don't know how these lesser known general aviation crashes haven't got their Wikipedia articles yet...

  • @frishhawk
    @frishhawk 2 месяца назад +2

    What an absolute bummer.

  • @Randomly_Browsing
    @Randomly_Browsing 2 месяца назад +5

    Pilot Debrief covered this case

    • @frankblangeard8865
      @frankblangeard8865 2 месяца назад +1

      Can;t find it at Pilot Debrief. Do you know the title of the video?

    • @Randomly_Browsing
      @Randomly_Browsing 2 месяца назад

      @@frankblangeard8865 ruclips.net/video/3CrJvlmzFPY/видео.htmlsi=iYXG38sGxCx1gV_F
      It was this video

    • @big_beak
      @big_beak 2 месяца назад

      ​@@frankblangeard8865The Pilot Debrief video is "Pilot's Reckless Mistakes End in Deadly Disaster!". ruclips.net/video/3CrJvlmzFPY/видео.html

  • @donaldsiler6779
    @donaldsiler6779 2 месяца назад +1

    You really should look into Decoy 81 a West Virginia ANG C130 that crashed 7 October 1992

  • @faustinblackman7612
    @faustinblackman7612 2 месяца назад +2

    Capt age 71..f/o age 28...ohhhh boy

  • @naknaksdadn572
    @naknaksdadn572 2 месяца назад

    All of those hours in the air and then it comes down to a few critical seconds. For what? No pre take off checks. Wrong rudder inputs... no feathering of the left engine. It all has to be done in the blink of an eye and it wasn't. So damned tragic!

  • @Mannysupbro
    @Mannysupbro 2 месяца назад +1

    Allec can you upload Aeroflot flight 1492 the plane that got stung by lightning

  • @bullseyes1983
    @bullseyes1983 2 месяца назад

    The MF mechanic knew.

  • @midgie1166
    @midgie1166 2 месяца назад +2

    How was the NTSB able to collect all the data without the FDR?

    • @billolsen4360
      @billolsen4360 2 месяца назад

      Must have had a voice recorder on board

  • @iris_cristina177
    @iris_cristina177 2 месяца назад +1

    Can you do BEA 411

  • @NalaRichenbach
    @NalaRichenbach Месяц назад

    A two year old plane with oil issues in one of the engines? Is that normal?

  • @tomservo5607
    @tomservo5607 2 месяца назад +1

    I can’t imagine attempting to fly any aircraft that has any sort of mechanical issue. Insanity…

    • @jerryhargis7730
      @jerryhargis7730 2 месяца назад +2

      It is done every day. The MEL (Minimum Equipment List) specifies what can and can't be a deferred maintenance item. All Part 135 and 121 operators have them for each aircraft type and subtype.

  • @Houndini
    @Houndini 2 месяца назад +1

    Sadly 1 more case of that you can not pull to the side of the road to work on any aircraft in the air. Machine runs 💯 trustworthy as you humanly possibly can or keep it on Mother Earth.
    Aircraft are very unforgiving.

  • @davestrang8585
    @davestrang8585 2 месяца назад

    Tourists 😮

  • @slidefirst694
    @slidefirst694 2 месяца назад +4

    Definitely did not keep the blue side up.

  • @xr6lad
    @xr6lad 2 месяца назад +6

    Less click bait thumbs mate. This is the sort of thing that has made walk away from many channels when they start great and then jump the shark. You don’t need to do that as your videos are good enough as it is.

    • @Randomly_Browsing
      @Randomly_Browsing 2 месяца назад +3

      Are you came from The Flight Channel?

    • @DeltaFoxtrotWhiskey3
      @DeltaFoxtrotWhiskey3 2 месяца назад +1

      What click bait? The image is pretty much exactly what happened.

    • @xr6lad
      @xr6lad 2 месяца назад +1

      @@DeltaFoxtrotWhiskey3 5 years old? Really. With all the embellishments? The CGI sprinkles? Th dramatic bursts of flames round the screen?

  • @billneal8995
    @billneal8995 Месяц назад

    Lazy pilot that wouldn't do the precheck . How sad for the passengers. 😢

  • @phantomf4747
    @phantomf4747 2 месяца назад +2

    Dang I was 5th!

    • @donnabaardsen5372
      @donnabaardsen5372 2 месяца назад +2

      Are you kidding? Such a tragic story, and that's your priority?

  • @toddb930
    @toddb930 2 месяца назад +1

    It seems EE Operations could have done a better job of hiring qualified pilots.

    • @billolsen4360
      @billolsen4360 2 месяца назад

      The pilot was probably one of the owners at EE Operations. "We don't need no stinkin' checklists."

  • @Powerranger-le4up
    @Powerranger-le4up 2 месяца назад +1

    This video actually shows the crash. ruclips.net/video/Urr-AxPUc3c/видео.htmlsi=CzdXYmR6LtxmnfQm

  • @Titot182
    @Titot182 2 месяца назад +1

    Because I was Inverted

  • @louislamboley9167
    @louislamboley9167 2 месяца назад

    Stop everything and have that left engine examined. Interesting that the report never resolved the cause of the engine failure. Makes you wonder who's in charge and their expertise.

    • @fltboss
      @fltboss 2 месяца назад +1

      If I remember correctly. Both engines were mechanically sound. That's why they were trying to decide about throttle position.

    • @louislamboley9167
      @louislamboley9167 2 месяца назад

      @@fltboss Using excess oil did not sound like it should've been taken lightly. Might have been oil leaking out of the crank case.

  • @gloomyvale3671
    @gloomyvale3671 2 месяца назад +1

    There is a lot of blaming the pilot here and not enough evidence to back up the criticism, he may have, it might have ect ect.

    • @jerryhargis7730
      @jerryhargis7730 2 месяца назад

      The initial use of left rudder versus right rudder I'd a huge red flag for me. Either he disregarded his training or was incompetent. I believe Beech now recommends or requires the pilot to keep on hand on the throttles in all models of the King Air. It doesn't need two hands on the control wheel to fly them.

    • @DeltaFoxtrotWhiskey3
      @DeltaFoxtrotWhiskey3 2 месяца назад +1

      The fact he wanted a silent copilot who would never take any action whatsoever is the sign of an egotistical maniac.

    • @billolsen4360
      @billolsen4360 2 месяца назад

      @@DeltaFoxtrotWhiskey3 Suspecting that the 71yo pilot had become an airline captain back when they were demigods?

  • @lohrtom
    @lohrtom 2 месяца назад

    Was the aircraft repaired and returned to service?

  • @frankblangeard8865
    @frankblangeard8865 2 месяца назад +8

    Pilots in multi-pilot commercial air transportation must retire by the age of 65. This pilot was 71.

    • @pamc4217
      @pamc4217 2 месяца назад +8

      That is incorrect. Age 65 retirement is for FAR Part 121 Operations only. This flight was operated under FAR Part 135, where pilots can continue to fly as long as they have a proper medical.

  • @anandguruji83
    @anandguruji83 2 месяца назад +1

    Going Inverted On Takeoff | EE Operations LLC N534FF

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      @anandguruji83 2 месяца назад +1

      Going Inverted On Takeoff | EE Operations LLC N534FF

    • @thhseeking
      @thhseeking 2 месяца назад

      @@anandguruji83 Yes, we KNOW, we KNOW! We can read!!

    • @peggyl2849
      @peggyl2849 2 месяца назад +1

      @@thhseeking It's just bumping-up its own replies, and likes.

    • @thhseeking
      @thhseeking 2 месяца назад +1

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  • @cattinkerbell4946
    @cattinkerbell4946 2 месяца назад +1

    You don't take of with a defectice engine in the first place.

    • @jerryhargis7730
      @jerryhargis7730 2 месяца назад

      Why do you think the engine was defective? The oil consumption is not a big issue. It was on monitor. And, I would guess that it was checked and serviced if needed prior to this flight. The aircraft was only two years old. For a turbine engine, that is "young".

  • @loislane4583
    @loislane4583 2 месяца назад

    Too old to be piloting.

  • @susiesweet8003
    @susiesweet8003 2 месяца назад +3

    Reason 55, why I won't fly.

    • @golfswingbodymechanicsinte2854
      @golfswingbodymechanicsinte2854 2 месяца назад

      So you don’t drive either? Or cross the street? Or ride a bike? Or go on a boat?

    • @susiesweet8003
      @susiesweet8003 2 месяца назад +2

      @@golfswingbodymechanicsinte2854 YAWN 🥱 At 70 & disabled, I don't do much of anything, sonny. But if I can't get there by car, boat or train...I won't go.

    • @Randomly_Browsing
      @Randomly_Browsing 2 месяца назад

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