11 reasons why HOMESTEADERS QUIT GOATS!
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- Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
- Goats seem cute and cuddly... but they can cause some serious problems for homesteaders! Learn 11 things to look out for when you get goats in this video!
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It’s so funny, I raise Nigerian Dwarf dairy goats and never had much issue. No parasites, easy kidding, easy to train, and sweet personalities. Most of my does have been quiet, except one VERY loud doe. I did have a goat escape once or twice, but they were always easy to put back (and to be fair the fencing left a lot to be desired, not ideal at all),, but again, my climate and environment is completely different. The animals have lots of grass but also tons of weeds and browse, plus the weather is hot and dry. At the end of the day, I think it’s important to match your environment to the animals alongside your individual needs. I tried cows, but honestly, the heifer I bought ate a ton and had far too much spunk for an animal her size. The goats were always easier. That being said, love the video as always!
I think I cut it for time… (K will be annoyed I cut it 😅) but K did talk about climate in the video we recorded for this… we have seen such a difference in different areas and climates! And not even that extreme, even just CT vs PA we have had a big difference! Our goats in CT never had worm issues, and it’s because they were not in a hot, wet, grassy place. They were in a pine grove with zero grass, essentially a dry lot. Such a good point to talk about!
Good point, in Queensland Australia we’ve had a lot of rain/humidity/heat…I don’t think we’d manage the parasites as well for our ND goats if we weren’t using Livomol biowormer…it’s an extra expense but we feel it’s worth it :)
I have goats and live in Florida and it a little harder because we are the land of parasites. The one thing that really helped with the parasites was just having long grass. My vet tells everyone to leave your grass long its harder for the goats to eat the worm eggs, and when I say long grass I mean like almost knee high. Funny thing is I have Nigerians, Lamanchas and Sannas and the Nigerians are the best when it comes to worms.
Yep. That's been my experience too.
Same. I'm a newbie with Nigerian Dwarfs. I did my homework and knew to get a buckling cuz they stink😂. No problems on our Homestead either.
I have been raising goats since 1976. But, I do not recommend them to anyone!
Nubians were the worst for noise.
The buck pen is at the end of a 600' driveway.
I loved the video.
Thanks!!!
Everytime I start to lose my mind and think I'll get goats I'll watch one of your videos and the problem is solved
Same. 😵💫 Never again, Amy. Never again. (Talking to myself here.)
My life's mission... Complete. ;)
This is the most accurate thing on RUclips to date! 😂
We have battled 10/11 of these topics!! Just this kidding season....had 6 babies. 1 passed, 3 are bottle kids, 1 broke her leg, and 50% buck rate. Had to pull two of them because mom wasn't progressing. Then got the worst flu of my life the week they needed disbudded. Which means I missed the boat. 😐 But last kidding season, had 7 with no issues and only one buck. Just when you think it's all going smoothly and you got this ..BAMM! 😂😂😂
I've learned everything I know about goats from Deborah! She's such a wealth of knowledge. I've had nigerian dwarfs for over 2 years, have never had parasite issues (or any other issues), and have never used chemical dewormers.
Had all those battles but we love them and can't see myself without them.
We crossbreed dairy breeds (mostly nubian some sanaan) with kiko (and the occasional spanish) goat then pull from the offspring for parasite resistance and dairy production.
The purpose of this is because dairy goat breeds tend to have very little if any parasite resistance themselves
While Kiko goats (which are a breed made up of European dairy goats and feral/wild goats in New Zealand) are extremely parasite resistant.
In addition to that parasite resistance, the Kiko is characteristically a more independent animal in terms of handling, kidding, and raising their young.
The slightly reduced dairy production (in some does but not all) more than makes up for the reduction in vet bills.
Love this video and agree education before hand is crucial before hand. I learned as much as I could before I got my goats. So far 4 years in only minor kidding issues which were easy to correct knowing what to expect and do. Although I now know why I have no parasite issues, I live in very sandy location where vegetation is scarce mostly a dry lot. Pretty lucky now that I know
YES! Dry lots are great options for goats!
Those things are all true . However after milking cows commercially for 30 yeas allow those things can be said about cows. Pulling a calf from a cow is much harder than pulling a goat kid. Cows can also get in trouble . They slip on the ice and break their legs. Never happen to a goat. Wehave had cows throw their uterus after calving. Cows sometimes get pinched nerves from calving. Own cows require a tractor to get up again.. the smaller size of goats make them much easier to handle. Just today we had a steer cast himself against the round bale feeder. Luckily we were able to roll him over and he got up. It took a lot of strength to roll a 800 pound steer over. I think if you do uour homework first and get a good enclosure beforehand the goats will work out for a beginner.
Shenanigans and great googly moogly would be amazing goat names...
Excellent video - great information, great humor, great editing. Well done.
Thanks Nate. It took F O R E V E R to make... so this is nice to hear ;)
Ok Aus, you had too much fun with those movie clips, did have me laugh plenty, and I learned. Tx guys!🙏
One of the most difficult issues I’ve experienced with my goats, is how little knowledge and experience veterinarians have with goat health. It can be really difficult to find a good and knowledgeable caprine vet.
Yes it is. We struggle with this. Also just saw that a vet disbudded a baby goat with a calf iron...... they are truly clueless when it comes to goats
Enjoyed the video! Goats are not for everyone, but they are for our family. As a family of 3 a milk cow would not make sense and I love that they are small enough( nigerians) that my young daughter can help! That's for the great videos!
The (human 😂) kids being involved is a great reason to choose goats! Our human kids are loving our little goat kids right now!
When you started talking about the noise, I immediately has visions of the goats in Thor Love and Thunder 😂
😂 I just bought 3 goats and one had 2 babies. I love them.
I love this video y'all are so funny how you done this one
I always tell people good fences make great goats. 😉
Good goat advice!
I love my gremlins ❤️ 🐐
Stock is finally good everyone get your Goats are gremlins shirts & Hoodies🐐
😂😂😂 This is so great Aust & K! Great information and great video Editing.
Great video. Very entertaining.
I love our goats. They are a full time job though. Lots of work lol 😂❤
My neighbors goats would get out often after the fence was fixed over n over. They enjoyed my apple trees especially. It's very hard to grow fruit trees if these things are loose. I ended up spending another 450$ just to keep them out of my Orchard. My fiancee was scared of their horns by the new doors she replaced. She felt she had to call the aspca. The neighbor found a new home thank God! He would let them roam free as we're surrounded by alphalpha fields, they also enjoyed my garden 🤨. If around others they can be a nuisance if they get out. Thanks for mentioning that one 👍👍. If you have them please be vigilant. My one of two neighbors is a friend, goats can drive a wedge.
I love your channel and we are just about to begin our goat journey!
You have scared the living daylights out of me and my husband (a sheep farmer) funnily I just received the phone call saying our goats are ready to pick up! 😮 we are getting 4 nubian wethers. I'm terrified now!!!! 😫😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬
Don't be! if you have sturdy fencing you will be fine! They bring so much joy to your home. I raise full size dairy goats and I love them to bits!
I plan on getting meat and milk goats. Got 10 acres, building a custom barn in the next few years before buying our first goats. Got to clear and replant the field with goat friendly ground cover. Neighbors tossed some not so goat friendly plant seeds in that field.
I also thoroughly believe in no horns! I’ve had several get them caught in trees and fencing. One died because she got caught in the fence during summer in Texas.
I’ve also lost more than a few because of parasites even though they’re in dry lot.
Wow! Even on a dry lot! That is sad, so hard to fight those parasites sometimes!
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Love the movie clips to go with this!
I Love Gremlins!
Despite all of this, I still can't wait to get my goats 😂😂😂
I was told by an old farmer that if your fence won't hold water, it won't hold goats.
Haha love the 80s gremlins - stranger things synth vibe for this, like a cheesy horror movie 😂
Yay! You got the other reference 😁 was waiting for this comment!
Hey Kevin ,this is a little off track but do you remember when we got Heasea Boots?
You got the Hunting pattern and I bought the Black.
I see you got a black adjustable pair now.
I would have liked to adjust mine instead I just rolled them down.
That's awesome Momma let's Daryl get breakfast 🤔.
WOW no Wonder his sound is so big it's attached to a giant Gossling LMBO xxz.
JO JO IN VT 💞💨❄️☃️
We watched this all the way through, and I know ad revenue is important, but this was over the top. Very thorough information. I do want goats. I think hoof care is the most intimidating to me. Thanks for the list.
Buttercup & Fern… I’m not sure what your saying about Ad revenue… did you get too many ads in the video? RUclips sets the number of ads that play, I don’t touch that, if it’s playing too many ads I can look into it, let me know what your saying specifically and I’ll check it out. Thanks for watching.
Yes, it was as often as every 5-7 minutes.
This was an awesome video because goats!
😂🤣😂 Loved it!!!
Thank you! I guess I'm not getting goats now LOL
I have had goats for approx. 20 years and they have been the least troublesome animals I have had.
Finding a good goat vet is impossible where I am.
It is hard to find a good goat vet period!
Holy cow or should I say holy goat! I've always dreamed of owning some goats but now have reconsidered. Thankfully, my village will not allow it but that didn't make me want it less. Thank you for setting me straight! I still think they're cute and I still like to pet them but I will no longer long to own one.
Great video, and all very true points. Our biggest issue was definitely disease and parasite for sure. There seems to be variations in the list pending the breed chosen, but certainly, people should consider all these possibilities before purchasing goats, lol.
I'm glad to hear this from you too. I do want goats. Nigerian dwarf specifically because they are small. I'm not sure they're hardy enough for our Canadian winters. And am I hardy enough to put up with their shenanigans and tiny teets.
I think too many people get them before #1 is confronted , I did hog panels 2x6 top and bottom , never had an issue. There personalities are what makes you want to have them around, they bond with you, there fun. no other farm animal are like goats. diatomaceous earth is a great parasite maintenance and don't let let eat grass down to the nub , rotate, sheep an goats together also not good, same life cycle of parasite
For worms and parasites have you tried giving pumpkins (essentially seeds) to your goats they are safe to be eaten by sheep/goats and people give it to deer a lot because it’s a natural dewormer. I also heard squash and cucumber seeds work too.
One of our potbelly pigs used to scream bloody murder. I think our distant neighbors thought we were serial killers. 😁
It's the Aust and Kay , yay or nay show 💥.
Shyne-Gannagans🤔?
I hate when I get those.
Help. I'm Stuck... again 😲.
Oh noooo the horn burner offer😠.
❤ My nails done👽.
That was a very bad day on Farm☹️.
I joking ,I love and Miss you Guys. Happy First Day of Spring 💐 💖.
JO JO IN VT 💞💨❄️☃️
everything you guys have mentioned are the exact reasons WE LOVE GOATS🤣❣
…except for the diseases and parasites hopefully 😂
I am showing this to my wife she is dead certain we needs goats, I am dead certain I don't want goats. some how I always lose these debates
Some goats are definitely worse than others with some issues. Breed, age, gender and genetics have a lot to do with these issues. I have 3 nigerian dwarfs & 2 alpines. My nigerian dwarfs are louder, trouble makers & escape artists. Theyll scream even after the sun goes down which is very risky in our area due to predators. My alpines are quieter but struggle more with parasite infestations. They're also larger and super stubborn so I've definitely been dragged by my doe when she saw a plant she wanted across the yard while I was walking her to the milk stand. She also gave me a concussion because she got stuck in something at night & I was attempting to remove her & she panicked. Gotta love them though. 😂
I know you've made an older video on it, but I'd love a video in this new format on the best dairy animals. In other words, which is the best dairy animal for a homestead? Putting #askhomesteady here just in case, although I'm not sure if that series is still active.
Oh... This is a good one! And YES we are still making #askhomesteady vids! Just when we find a good topic... like THIS one!
Goats are browsers not grazers. They like to eat things that are in front of them without putting their head down. If you raise them this way you will have no need for dewormers. I don’t worry at all about fencing they are all train to electric fence. I have yet to have one escape in 8 yrs. If they have horns they can be hard on a fence rubbing against them but we solved this also by adding a few tpost around for them to use. As far as disease no more than any other livestock. As with any livestock you have to watch what you bring onto your property. You two found this out with your first cow. For kidding we find it much easier to pull a baby on a goat or sheep than it is for larger livestock. Milking a goat is a breeze as it only takes 5 minutes (from setup to cleanup) with a pump. What I like most about goats is they can still browse in the winter when there is no grass. This saves a lot on hay. We have now 12 goats and only use 40 bales of hay a year. This includes using it for bedding.
12. They are really hard to sell compared to cattle.
I love our goats and sheep. We raise registered nubians and my husband just added in registered boer. I was sitting in the house the other day and heard a goat screaming. One of our boer babies had fish hooked himself on a piece of chainlink that broke loose. 1 in a 1,000,000 chance of that happening. Goats are constantly trying to kill themselves lol. I also would take for our goats. We absolutely love them and their crazy personalities. Sheep are so much easier though haha.
Wow. Always finding new ways to hurt themselves! They keep us busy don't they?
@@Homesteadyshow That they do
In the early 90's I had Pigmy goats. I loved them. The only problem I had was their horns in the fence. It was basically luck. I didn't know about all the parasites and need for minerals.
How difficult is it to trim cow hooves vs goat hooves? Are cows less prone to parasites?
Forewarned is fore-armed
I've had very few fencing issues 😂.
It impossible to keep dry land where I am.
What about Kiko and Savanah goats I've heard and read they're a bit more resilient. I'm considering getting goats for broadleaf control in our cow pastures. Kansas drier prairie.
It's kinda funny. I'm sitting here thinking most of your reasons aren't so much of an issue for me (hoof trimming, over eating, worms, escaping fencing, etc), but then I realized why those just didn't seem to be such an issue to me - I've raised horses for 40+ years, so those are things I'm already well comfortable with dealing with. Huh. Interesting. I did go with Kiko's because of all the literature saying they're more parasite resistant, good moms, etc. And my fencing is all 5 ft horse fence, so in the 3 years I've had them, there have been no escapes at all.
My biggest learning experience was with kidding. I've had 3 does kid. #1, twins, one died w/in 24 hours. Doe was killed by a feral dog pack when the doeling was 3 weeks. Bottle baby. #2. triplets and overzealous LGD that helped with the clean up. first born was rejected. Bottle baby. #3. twins, first time doe. Had the kids and walked off. Took a couple of days of them locked up together with me holding her for them to nurse before she got with the program. Whew! Crazy times.
when I was a young woman, many years ago, I had a milking herd of registered Alpine goats. It's not that they are Hard to keep, they are just too smart for their own good. Once I had 5 electrified strands of wire fencing and they had already successfully eaten and destroyed the most expensive landscaping, they were content to stay in the pasture. To this day I don't think there is anything cuter than when a baby goat gets to it's feet the first time. The next thing it does is spring strait up in the air and twirl. We also used them to pull carts and kept a couple of big whethers to drive as a team.
Weed em an reap and blue cactus make having goats look so easy. On the flip side your channel makes owning cattle look so easy.😅
It is easy for them because they live in an ideal environment for goats. For anyone not living in the desert, goat management is much more difficult.
Yes! Living in a desert really helps with goats!
Goats come with horns, if you don't want horns, don't get goats. Disbudding causes brain damage, and sometimes death, they need their horns for temperature regulation. They do make fencing they can't stick their heads through, cattle panels work best here.
I have had goats 2 times,, last time i sold 15 goats of mine because my favorite one broke both her front legs due to wood pallets we built as a play yard and my hubby had to shoot her. I was heart broken and sold all my goats that week. fast forward 5 yrs later i have goats again, learning from mistakes i made the 1st time. I find them to be easier, but i also borrow bucks and will never raise another one they stink! when i borrowed my friends buck my girls made him sleep in the chicken coup wouldn't allow him to stink up there barn lol I will be here on out a forever goat mama
I am afraid they are like gremlins... AND boomerangs. The harder I try to get rid of them the quicker they come back.
@@Homesteadyshow lol 😆
When we got goats, we were told if your fence won't hold water it won't hold a goat 😂😂😂😂
We just went through our first kidding. Mom accepted the first, and rejected the twin. This was also a surprise kidding- so I had no idea what to do. 😂 I tried to give the mom time to do her thing but she had no interest.
I don't know what yall are doing to your goats but mine are not that bad😂 They can be naughty but you as the homesteader need to have the right kind of patience (i am not saying you aren't patient, but you have to have a certain type) and really good fences like not crappy old, barbed wire that is loose or rusty. Good fences will be great for you whether you keep the goats or not!!!!!! Don't get me wrong they are escape ARTISTS, but they can be great! But goats are not for everybody, just don't go saying cows are easier than goats because we have had our fair share of very naughty cows, they might not escape as much but they are way harder to get back where they are supposed to be! Love your channel so much good information! Just not about goats 😂 😂 kidding but everyone's experience with goats is usually a little different!
Right kind of patience 👌 yep 😂 This video was based off the hundreds of homesteaders responses from our polls and questionnaires, so you must have the right kind of Patience Esther! I though it was interesting how many people said goats were the hardest and yet still had them! (Ourselves included) maybe it’s a homesteader kind of patience…
@@Homesteadyshow Sorry if it sounded rude, they can definitely be difficult but with the right patients, you can still own them, just like all the other homesteaders who have had difficulties with them and still have them! I have friends who own sheep, and they are very anti-goat! But they had bad experiences with them (and they have NOT goat-safe fences 😂) so we tease each other a lot about sheep and goats!
THIS IS Hilarious!!! AND SO SPOt on..thank you for this! LOVE All your posts.. we raised Nigerians (raised the key word).. WE Still have one pregnant doe and our goat dog which was raised in our house and thinks he's a dog.. . #normanrockwellthegoat
I kept thinking about a RUclips guy I watch who has Keiko goats. They seem more hardy than yours. I'm curious if they are. Arms Family Homestead
Nigerian drawf owner, zero problems and almost zero maintenance. Perfect lawnmowers on a hard to mow pasture. We have no bucks (only wethers) so don't have to deal with that.
They can be hard, but it is so worth it. They are the sweetest things and have really great milk. If you don't like goats so much why do you own them? (genuine question, i'm not trying to be impolite)
We LOVE our Oberhasli goats. They don't test our fences, are super healthy and are quiet.
K wanted to get some Oberhasli goats a while back! We Couldn’t find ones at the time!
@@Homesteadyshow there is a dairy farm near us that uses only oberhasli goats. The milk is far and away the best goat milk I've ever had as well. It doesn't have that goaty flavor. We've tricked some very anti goat milk people into thinking it's cow milk.
Goats = Gremlins. LOL, SO TRUE!!!
I started with chickens and added pigs… looks like I’ll stop there lol 😂 wanted goats but not anymore
Many times people will interact with my goats and say, "oh, so they're like dogs that eat hay!" Hahahaha no! I wish they listened like dogs. Goats are so single track minded. If they see something they want to eat, it is hard stopping them. They have willpower to jump or go over anything. Especially bucks in rut. They are crazy animals, but I love them.
Yes, I would much prefer they be trainable like dogs… but then I’d have no animals to pick on in my videos… 😝
Our neighbors have goats...I cannot tell you how often I think I am hearing a child crying in pain. It always takes me a minute to remember it's just the goats
Grass is vital in the life cycle of parasites. Aaaaand that's why goats eat brush over grass every time. It's a natural mechanism for keeping the parasite load low. If you have a brushy property, a goat might be the animal for you.
Goats take a lot of work for sure.
When your talking about huff care in one of the frames it looks like someone is pointing a gun!!!!
Noisy is because of the breeds you got. Saanens are very quiet.
Will you still want goats but we’re getting Sheep and April!
Let me add ..that broken kid leg...the newborn kid got caught in the darn fence and a cow walked by and broke her leg! 4/11 literally in one minute. 🥴
16:35 - goats need to be outdoors roaming around in very large paddocks, not locked up indoors going insane like that.
Fencing is easy. 5 ft. Concrete welded wire mesh. Don't use 4 ft. Fencing like the standard claims and you won't have any problems.
Thanks. I'll buy goat milk but I'll never have goats. Ewwww. My HS biology teacher had a whole wall full of jars of worms.
animal milk is highly estrogenic, meaning you'll get manboobs
Escapees
I’ve had two goats over eat before
It's all in your infrastructure and management skills. Goats aren't for everyone. Been raising Nigerian Dwarfs for years, with very few issues at all.
I'm actually GLAD I have never liked goats. I don't like their smell, their milk or their meat and I certainly don't like their attitude! We had goats a few times on the family farm while I was growing up, and after I moved away, my mom got some Nubian milkers, but they've never stayed long...because turns out, no one likes them much! lol
I. Want. Sheep!
We have chickens, rabbits, and Berkshires (love my piggies) and an old mare...but I can't wait to add some sheeps! I love lamb and sheep's milk cheese is divine! And they smell better than goats by a mile!
😂 we LOVE sheep’s cheese! But I’ll be honest… I love goat cheese too! 🤪
Here the saying is : a fence that doesn't hold water won't hold a goat.
Other things, if you buy a goat ask about injuries, ease of birth and so on, because some of this is hereditary. Clumsiness/injury prone for one, birthing problems ditto. Try not to buy such animals and cull the ones you find have it anyway. And yes often those are the goats most liked and/or have best other wanted traits. Some things you'll work around, but some things cannot be compensated for.
goats, try a golden doodle, its the velcro version of a doggie goat, lol😅🤣😂
Anyone know of a gremlin free video with this information? It is unwatchable for my poor wife!
Milk sheep are better.
estrogenic, gives you manboobs
When you want to grow a beard but it's just to played out mooooostaaaaaassh
Dogs will eat themselves 'SICK' too.
homesteady, should've used these goats from Thor in your video haha ruclips.net/video/tCjtaitfhgQ/видео.html
I find your hatred of goats pretty funny
I'm pretty sure goats here in the states are bred different. They become invasive in so many places. How can they attract death so easily and still be so invasive? It has to be a genetic difference
Can you give your goats diatomaceous earth? It's supposed to be great for parasites.
I mean bad for parasites...great for getting rid of them.
I find my standard size dairy goats to be quite easy keepers. My sheep on the other hand is definitely a love hate relationship
Because sheep are so dumb? 🙈 That's why I prefer goats over sheep...
@@promisedjubileedaniels that's true. Mine are just horrible. They never seem happy. Baaa all damn day long( yes they are healthy. They hay is never good enough. Not enough grain .when it's time to be on pasture they baa for hay. Unfortunately I really like lamb and it's so expensive to buy 🤣
@@albagubrath3755 so true! I complained and complained about the cost of lamb until I had to raise them, and then I said, "Oh. Makes sense." 😆