My grandfather passed away last year at 90. This morning I found a box with loose coins that belonged to him. I pulled out a 1948 quarter that looked exactly like after spooning in your video, but had no holes drilled. Thought it might be a mint error. Thank you for the video it cleared up the puzzle.
I'm 70 now but when I was in the 4 th grade a mexican friend on the school bus gave me a penny ring. He said his brother makes them with a spoon and I always wondered how he did it. Got to see if I can find that penny ring now. Thanks for clearing up a 60 year mystery.
Who cares that ring is probably more important to her then a store bought one I garuntee you that cuse he loved her so much he made her a ring and didn't care about her saying anything about it being home made and what other ppl thought, my mom and dad got married 8 hours after meeting each other, he was her boss in the Airforce while they was both stationed at nellis airforce base in Las Vegas, she snuck off base off her post cuse she was new and lower rank to go meet with him at the bowling alley and bar on purpose to find him to talk to him 8 hours later they got married at the little white chapel they went in no drive through and they are still married to this day 31 years later and never once cheated on each other it's crazzy, and her wedding ring was literally a plastic gumball machine ring from the bowling alley quarter machine so she still has it to this day she doesn't wear it but it's in her jewelry box she has a real one that he gave her at thier second wedding that was for her mom and dad so they didn't find out about the drunk Vegas one while she was 2 months pregnant with me a year after they already been married
I have done something similar to make a part for an old auto restoration, but nothing as nice as what you have produced. Now that I am retired and work from my desk, I can't wait for my break times to see what else you have done. Nicely done, sir. Liked, subscribed, shared, and watching all of the advertisements that come by.
My great great grandfather was in the navy during ww2 and I have a ring he made during his time serving he passed it down to his son and he passed it down to his son and he passed it down to my grandpa and my grandpa gave it to and someday I’ll give it to my son someday
I found it. I had a smooth edge quarter from use, but which led me to people that made these when trying to figure out the cause and it is just so cool and I plan on doing it with a silver quarter
That's not an unreasonable suggestion whatsoever. I just kinda did what my little brain pointed me to. Maybe I'll try it differently next time. Thanks for watching Law Man!
My mother(Mexican) taught me this method when I was about 12yo or so. I asked why the spoon ( I thought of a hammer). She said the silver on silver doesn't make marks. I then "sold" the ring to my father. Advertised as an authentic ww2 nazi fighting ring( blame rpgs for that). We were reselling merchants so he appreciated the effort. He only gave me 10 bucks because he said it wasn't authentic. Thanks for bringing up the memories
My dad figured out if you place the coin on a wooden block with thick rubber between the wood and the ground (preferably hard ground like concrete) then it speeds up the process
I did this with a silver quarter (costs a little less than $5 for a silver quarter). Best part is, you burn the hell out of your hand while drilling the hole
The idea with the spoon is that it's entirely mobile. Walk around with it in your pocket no problem. Tools on ships are hot commodities, usually with check in/out procedures. But, if you're on a 12-hour watch, you've got nothing but time anyway. Flare out the edges with a spoon, and then take it down to engineering after your shift, drill out the middle, and you're good to go!
@@NotAWendigo you lay it flat and strike the inner edge with the other side of the spoon. It's a slow process but it will cause the inside to push towards the other side. Flip the coin and repeat the process until the inside breaks free from the ring. You're left with an edge on the inner ring that will need to be buffed down.
Too slow. Just use a big block of wood and put 4 or 5 screws around the edge of the quarter fastening it in place. You won’t need a drill press. A drill and a metal bit will do.
That is a very legitimate question, and one I've wondered about myself. The best I can come up with is knowing that down in the bowels of most modern-ish ships, certainly those of WWII vintage, there exists the engineering department where there are tools of all sorts (drill presses too) to keep the ship's engines and such in good shape. In command of these tools in this dank and dirty lair are a cadre of mythical creatures called Snipes. A Snipe is more than happy to drill a hole in one's quarter in exchange for a pack or two of Lucky Strikes after having been at sea for a lunar cycle. Just my hunch ;-) thanks for watching.
@@ZackOfAllTrades Snipe is a general term. In particular, we woul be looking for a Machinist Mate. As the Rate implies, they run the machine shops. Also, you could find a Boatswains Mate a get ahold of a marlinspike, which makes a handy mandrel for pounding out rings.
Faster, yes. Same results, no. The hammer having a (mostly) flat striking doesn’t create as nice of a finished product in my opinion. It’s weight does make it faster though. I have added weight to a spoon by taping quarters to the concave side to achieve a speed increase. The angle doesn’t matter much if at all as the final finish is a product of random strikes anyway. Best of luck!
@@ZackOfAllTrades i made one with a hammer it wasnt a ball pin one tho i used a locksmiths hammer i think they are called in my country they are as commonas boots almost evrybody has one and the ring looks pretty similiar to what you shoved tho i used a diffrent coin i used a czech 20 (kcs) exepct i used some sand paper on the outside cause it was dirty because the hammer was old tho when it comes to hammers angle does matter link to the kind of hammer i had in mind www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rucne-naradie.sk%2Fimg_product%2Fimg%2Ftona-expert-e150104-kladivo-800g.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rucne-naradie.sk%2Ftona-expert-e150104-kladivo-800g&tbnid=c9_-CyDwR7rrnM&vet=12ahUKEwjuhu3H1-nvAhXO0YUKHUtcBJgQMygBegUIARDiAQ..i&docid=gbc7ijoR67lqlM&w=1600&h=914&q=kladivo&ved=2ahUKEwjuhu3H1-nvAhXO0YUKHUtcBJgQMygBegUIARDiAQ
Even though it's over two years later... free tip: heavily abrade the inside of the spoon so it has deep scratches. I mean DEEP scratches all over the inside of the concave surface. Mount the spoon flat & level into a vise or clamp it to a table - mount it to hold maximum liquid. Grab some lead such as from fishing line weights or the weights for tire & rim balancing. Heat up the lead with a torch until melted - a small can works well for a temporary crucible, such as a soup or tuna can. Hit the spoon with the torch to get it heated up to about 300° F to 400° F. Pour the lead into the spoon until full and let it cool. You now have an extra heavy spoon hammer, a "Spoonamer", to speed up your ring manufacturing. The deep scratches and abrasion are to help the lead adhere to the spoon which still may want to pop off the spoon over time. Obviously, the rougher the surface, the more bite the lead has which in this case is what you want. Remember to avoid breathing in the fumes from your lead melt as they're quite toxic and to wear some PPE such as heavy leather gloves. Another free tip: if you have a lathe or access to one, you can machine a fixture to make one of these rings in about ten minutes start to finish.
Eh,I did it before I was a teenager. I held it with my forefinger and thumb for the shaping. After I drilled the the hole and filed it down, I stuck my index finger in the hole with my thumb supporting against it and continued to spoon away for the final touches. You must have went aggressive on it. Never had any lasting pain.
No, but you want a coin that's at least somewhat malleable. Silver, gold & copper are softer metals thus are far easier to form and shape via cold forging.
I'm sure it will but my mother was adamant about using a heavy silver spoon. She claimed it left no marks because of silver on silver. I asked the exact same thing.
why not just buy a ring mandrel and a nylon Jewelers hammer doing this is still an extremely basic and very simple way of making a coin ring and would make it a lot faster and easier just my opinion. Doing it this way would also let you see most of the details of the coin on both the inside and outside of the Ring. Better yet if you can afford it do what will make it extremely easy and fast and buy all the proper ring making tools like a ring stretcher / reducer some coin folding dies and have a coin ring almost complete in just a matter of minutes. Anyways nice job I just don't know how someone can have the patience to do it your way and take most of a day on a ring snd end up with almost none of the original details of the coin still visible anymore.
Matthew I really appreciate you watching the video as well as taking the time to comment. I think you'll find if you watch many of my videos that I'm very much a "get things done with what you have on hand" type of guy. I have seen the technique with the mandrel and nylon hammer and like it very much, I think it makes an incredible looking ring but my technique was as much recreating old sailor lore or tradition, sort of walking in the footsteps of those before me. The first ring I ever made this way was my wife's wedding band (and she made mine) so the time and effort put into it actually added value to the final product. If I were mass producing rings to sell it surely wouldn't make much sense to do it this way and I'd likely invest in the tooling to do it much quicker. Thanks again for watching, take care.
It's true that it will go faster that way but using the flat face of a hammer will cause facets and prevent the ultimately smooth surface. The real trouble with a hammer is that if you mis-strike once and hit your coin with the edge of the hammer face, you'll have a gnarly dent to get out. Don't ask me how I know. Thanks for watching
If by chance I had a giant hydraulic press, maybe I'd do it that way but with just a hammer, I tend to think it wouldn't be fast nor easy. Thanks for watching as well as putting your idea out there.
I like you, straight to the point, no fancy tools, just a man, a drill, a coin, and a spoon
My grandfather passed away last year at 90. This morning I found a box with loose coins that belonged to him. I pulled out a 1948 quarter that looked exactly like after spooning in your video, but had no holes drilled. Thought it might be a mint error. Thank you for the video it cleared up the puzzle.
I love your story's. Especially the one about you making a ring for your wife . 👍
I like the sailor deal, and this way is different than what i have seen. easy from what you shown.
My mother taught me this. I'm sure this method is still used in the poorer parts of the world. Awesome!
I would imagine so :-)
I'm 70 now but when I was in the 4 th grade a mexican friend on the school bus gave me a penny ring. He said his brother makes them with a spoon and I always wondered how he did it. Got to see if I can find that penny ring now. Thanks for clearing up a 60 year mystery.
That drill press made me anxious!
My dad made my mum’s wedding ring like this with a spoon and a sixpence - they were too poor to buy one.
Who cares that ring is probably more important to her then a store bought one I garuntee you that cuse he loved her so much he made her a ring and didn't care about her saying anything about it being home made and what other ppl thought, my mom and dad got married 8 hours after meeting each other, he was her boss in the Airforce while they was both stationed at nellis airforce base in Las Vegas, she snuck off base off her post cuse she was new and lower rank to go meet with him at the bowling alley and bar on purpose to find him to talk to him 8 hours later they got married at the little white chapel they went in no drive through and they are still married to this day 31 years later and never once cheated on each other it's crazzy, and her wedding ring was literally a plastic gumball machine ring from the bowling alley quarter machine so she still has it to this day she doesn't wear it but it's in her jewelry box she has a real one that he gave her at thier second wedding that was for her mom and dad so they didn't find out about the drunk Vegas one while she was 2 months pregnant with me a year after they already been married
@@youknoweverything7643 what a great tale. Talk about love on first sight.
I have done something similar to make a part for an old auto restoration, but nothing as nice as what you have produced. Now that I am retired and work from my desk, I can't wait for my break times to see what else you have done. Nicely done, sir. Liked, subscribed, shared, and watching all of the advertisements that come by.
Great video , thank you for sharing. ❤️
For holding the coin when drilling, I think 4 screws holding down the coin to the wood would work.
My great great grandfather was in the navy during ww2 and I have a ring he made during his time serving he passed it down to his son and he passed it down to his son and he passed it down to my grandpa and my grandpa gave it to and someday I’ll give it to my son someday
I found it. I had a smooth edge quarter from use, but which led me to people that made these when trying to figure out the cause and it is just so cool and I plan on doing it with a silver quarter
I did the exact same thing coming here. I had a dryer coin that I originally thought was silver and tried to figure out if it was. Now I’m here
I'd suggest a center drill and then a clamp for the drilling. Just a thought
That's not an unreasonable suggestion whatsoever. I just kinda did what my little brain pointed me to. Maybe I'll try it differently next time. Thanks for watching Law Man!
My mother(Mexican) taught me this method when I was about 12yo or so. I asked why the spoon ( I thought of a hammer). She said the silver on silver doesn't make marks. I then "sold" the ring to my father. Advertised as an authentic ww2 nazi fighting ring( blame rpgs for that). We were reselling merchants so he appreciated the effort. He only gave me 10 bucks because he said it wasn't authentic. Thanks for bringing up the memories
Do you know any ways to hollow out the whole middle with only a drill?
Metal file
A larger drill bit.
Pocket knife works but might dull knife and it would take awhile
My dad figured out if you place the coin on a wooden block with thick rubber between the wood and the ground (preferably hard ground like concrete) then it speeds up the process
hi there I wonder if the spoon has got something on it to make it heavier or can I use just a regular spoon with nothing on it?
I did this with a silver quarter (costs a little less than $5 for a silver quarter). Best part is, you burn the hell out of your hand while drilling the hole
I would ask for the details on how to make a coin from a ring but the FBI would probably put me and you on their 10 most wanted counterfeiters list.
They had a drill press and a Dremel tool on the ship but not a hammer. Lol cool video
I've heard that somehow they used to freeze them and then just tap out the middle, not sure how though
The idea with the spoon is that it's entirely mobile. Walk around with it in your pocket no problem. Tools on ships are hot commodities, usually with check in/out procedures. But, if you're on a 12-hour watch, you've got nothing but time anyway. Flare out the edges with a spoon, and then take it down to engineering after your shift, drill out the middle, and you're good to go!
Drill it out? I learned to make rings when I was in prison. We didn't have drills. We removed the center using the spoon. 😉
How? I really don't want to drill that close to my fingers
@@NotAWendigo you lay it flat and strike the inner edge with the other side of the spoon. It's a slow process but it will cause the inside to push towards the other side. Flip the coin and repeat the process until the inside breaks free from the ring. You're left with an edge on the inner ring that will need to be buffed down.
@@frankh.3849 kinda like cutting granite. That's amazing 👏
Too slow. Just use a big block of wood and put 4 or 5 screws around the edge of the quarter fastening it in place. You won’t need a drill press. A drill and a metal bit will do.
What size ring did this make
How long did it you to make a coin ring
something like about 2 1/2 hours for the one shown
This seems cool, but how would sailors drill out the middle?
That is a very legitimate question, and one I've wondered about myself. The best I can come up with is knowing that down in the bowels of most modern-ish ships, certainly those of WWII vintage, there exists the engineering department where there are tools of all sorts (drill presses too) to keep the ship's engines and such in good shape. In command of these tools in this dank and dirty lair are a cadre of mythical creatures called Snipes. A Snipe is more than happy to drill a hole in one's quarter in exchange for a pack or two of Lucky Strikes after having been at sea for a lunar cycle. Just my hunch ;-) thanks for watching.
They used their knives
Maybe they for some reason had .22's on board and shot em. Idk but that sounds like something I would do lol
@@ZackOfAllTrades Snipe is a general term. In particular, we woul be looking for a Machinist Mate. As the Rate implies, they run the machine shops.
Also, you could find a Boatswains Mate a get ahold of a marlinspike, which makes a handy mandrel for pounding out rings.
Big ships have machinist equipment. I'm sure they just drilled them out.
Do you think it would be faster and get the same results using a ball peen hammer? Also, does it matter what angle I hit the coin at?
Faster, yes. Same results, no. The hammer having a (mostly) flat striking doesn’t create as nice of a finished product in my opinion. It’s weight does make it faster though. I have added weight to a spoon by taping quarters to the concave side to achieve a speed increase. The angle doesn’t matter much if at all as the final finish is a product of random strikes anyway. Best of luck!
@@ZackOfAllTrades i made one with a hammer it wasnt a ball pin one tho i used a locksmiths hammer i think they are called in my country they are as commonas boots almost evrybody has one and the ring looks pretty similiar to what you shoved tho i used a diffrent coin i used a czech 20 (kcs) exepct i used some sand paper on the outside cause it was dirty because the hammer was old
tho when it comes to hammers angle does matter link to the kind of hammer i had in mind www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rucne-naradie.sk%2Fimg_product%2Fimg%2Ftona-expert-e150104-kladivo-800g.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rucne-naradie.sk%2Ftona-expert-e150104-kladivo-800g&tbnid=c9_-CyDwR7rrnM&vet=12ahUKEwjuhu3H1-nvAhXO0YUKHUtcBJgQMygBegUIARDiAQ..i&docid=gbc7ijoR67lqlM&w=1600&h=914&q=kladivo&ved=2ahUKEwjuhu3H1-nvAhXO0YUKHUtcBJgQMygBegUIARDiAQ
Even though it's over two years later... free tip: heavily abrade the inside of the spoon so it has deep scratches. I mean DEEP scratches all over the inside of the concave surface. Mount the spoon flat & level into a vise or clamp it to a table - mount it to hold maximum liquid. Grab some lead such as from fishing line weights or the weights for tire & rim balancing. Heat up the lead with a torch until melted - a small can works well for a temporary crucible, such as a soup or tuna can. Hit the spoon with the torch to get it heated up to about 300° F to 400° F. Pour the lead into the spoon until full and let it cool. You now have an extra heavy spoon hammer, a "Spoonamer", to speed up your ring manufacturing. The deep scratches and abrasion are to help the lead adhere to the spoon which still may want to pop off the spoon over time. Obviously, the rougher the surface, the more bite the lead has which in this case is what you want. Remember to avoid breathing in the fumes from your lead melt as they're quite toxic and to wear some PPE such as heavy leather gloves. Another free tip: if you have a lathe or access to one, you can machine a fixture to make one of these rings in about ten minutes start to finish.
Did this as a kid but held the nickel the whole time while spinning it took me 13 days
nice
Thanks so muck man
As someone who's done this....ur fingers will hurt for weeks🤣
Eh,I did it before I was a teenager. I held it with my forefinger and thumb for the shaping. After I drilled the the hole and filed it down, I stuck my index finger in the hole with my thumb supporting against it and continued to spoon away for the final touches. You must have went aggressive on it. Never had any lasting pain.
Half Hour Of Solid Pounding! Thats what she said hahaha!!!!!
I can't believe I left that hanging out there lol
Liked this video!
Do you have to put a hole in the middle for it to work
No and others I've seen do it don't use a spoon they use a regular house hold hammer and it's a lot faster.
My Grandfather showed me how to make one with a nickel...had to 64 or below he said.
About mid-year 1963 and older as those coins were made from silver.
@@possumwerxno they were not, they were ONLY silver from 1942-1945 due to the need of nickel for the war.
does it have to be a silver coin?
No, but you want a coin that's at least somewhat malleable. Silver, gold & copper are softer metals thus are far easier to form and shape via cold forging.
How did you hollow out the middle
I drilled it out as large as I could and then used a dremel to finish hollowing it out.
help mine isnt getting any fatter, its too skinny and small, i been pounding with a spoon then a small hammer fpr 5 hours 😭😢
Use a house hold hammer.
@@Dennis-pe6zx i thought it was a joke ibe done it with a hammer and still took me a while
Will a hammer speed up the procces
I'm sure it will but my mother was adamant about using a heavy silver spoon. She claimed it left no marks because of silver on silver. I asked the exact same thing.
Whats wrong with a hammer
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Please do not hold your fingers this close to a drill that was so scary to watch
It took me six days
why not just buy a ring mandrel and a nylon Jewelers hammer doing this is still an extremely basic and very simple way of making a coin ring and would make it a lot faster and easier just my opinion. Doing it this way would also let you see most of the details of the coin on both the inside and outside of the Ring. Better yet if you can afford it do what will make it extremely easy and fast and buy all the proper ring making tools like a ring stretcher / reducer some coin folding dies and have a coin ring almost complete in just a matter of minutes. Anyways nice job I just don't know how someone can have the patience to do it your way and take most of a day on a ring snd end up with almost none of the original details of the coin still visible anymore.
Matthew I really appreciate you watching the video as well as taking the time to comment. I think you'll find if you watch many of my videos that I'm very much a "get things done with what you have on hand" type of guy. I have seen the technique with the mandrel and nylon hammer and like it very much, I think it makes an incredible looking ring but my technique was as much recreating old sailor lore or tradition, sort of walking in the footsteps of those before me. The first ring I ever made this way was my wife's wedding band (and she made mine) so the time and effort put into it actually added value to the final product. If I were mass producing rings to sell it surely wouldn't make much sense to do it this way and I'd likely invest in the tooling to do it much quicker. Thanks again for watching, take care.
+Zack Of All Trades Made each other's ring!?! Of higher value than the largest of diamonds.
I did this but it did not work
My Dad told me him and his brothers did this
That's cool to hear, I've run across very few people who've even heard of this. How old are they?
Zack Of All Trades my dads 83 his brothers were older
Thank you Tony, it's pretty cool to hear some validation of what I'd been told.
I made one but I just used a hammer and did it on an anvil. Took me 40 mins. I don't have a drill.
Grog.Dog how did you hollow it out?
neato.
Thanks Matt, kinda fun to make
Using a hammer will make this process done in 4th of the time
It's true that it will go faster that way but using the flat face of a hammer will cause facets and prevent the ultimately smooth surface. The real trouble with a hammer is that if you mis-strike once and hit your coin with the edge of the hammer face, you'll have a gnarly dent to get out. Don't ask me how I know. Thanks for watching
Why
pretty basic. try using that socket and punch out the inner part u used to drill, much faster and easier
If by chance I had a giant hydraulic press, maybe I'd do it that way but with just a hammer, I tend to think it wouldn't be fast nor easy. Thanks for watching as well as putting your idea out there.
Anyone see this because of The Modern Rogue article?