I think for me the difference between pinterest and AI in terms of art theft is that if i wanted to i could still track down the source for at least 80% of the images, if not more. And it’s *intended* use is to gather images, with links back to the source and proper credit, even if people abuse its functionalities. AI as it currently exist has art theft baked into it’s foundations. Also, artists are able to request DMCA takedowns of reposts on pinterest, while that is impossible with AI software. Others have mentioned the environmental cost already so i have nothing to add there. That’s just the ethical side, but i think AI is also detrimental to human creativity in the long run. As AI runs out of material to recycle, it will start to cannibalize images it has already put out, so results will become increasingly generic as time goes on. It also is highly discouraging to artists who are reluctant to post/share their work online out of fear that it will be used to feed these algorithms. And for context, this is my perspective as an artist and costumer with a large portion of my design degree being focused on the potential ramifications of AI. I do really like what you made, but i think it’s a concept you probably would have come up with even without using AI since it’s very much in line with the style and quality you’ve produced before.
I totally get that and agree! I think a bit of the misunderstanding is coming from my intention that I was using it as more of a visual aid than a coming up with ideas aid, if that makes sense? Less that I need ai to come up with the design and more that I have so many ideas and not enough time to fully render them to see which direction I want to go, and I was hoping to expedite the part of the design process that I find a bit tedious 😅 but all the discussion has come up with some convincing arguments for me to avoid using it, at least until (if ever) there are more regulations and ways to systemically make it more ethical on an art theft and environmental level
I appreciate how much Minji was transparent about using ai as references and inspiration and therein trying to learn more about the ethical issues with it. I think it can be difficult to find a coherent message to any issue online especially if youre not constantly online, and don't know what sources to trust when a lot are conflicting. 😅 heaven forbid people be human and make mistakes
I would love to see a video about where you get all your sewing supplies (and honestly any sort of organization/room tours are my favorite - especially since it looks like you’re rearranging your sewing room!) I have always just gotten stuff at Joann’s because I can go in person, but it seems like a lot of places can cheaper when you buy in bulk and are more professional? Hopefully that could be a chill video and would help with sewing ~related~ content but not contribute as much to the burn out 😊 that is all too real
i havent watched the whole video yet but i gotta say, your hair looks so good. also personally, i avoid using AI at all because i don't want to contribute to the market for it, and it does get better the more it's used. more than preventing AI from getting better though, i feel there needs to be laws quickly enacted and enforced to at least make it punishable in court to use AI work as your own, which takes time and money and lobbying :/ it's complicated! so all i can do for now is avoid it
Ty for your thoughts I def agree it needs to be regulated far more heavily! Now that I've gotten more input on the larger scope and the environmental impact I'd also rather avoid it, but when I started the design process I had figured it was on a similar level to taking inspiration from the (largely uncredited) work on Pinterest and I wanted to be transparent in my process! Ty about the shirt too 😊♥️
I really love the three channels for the drawstrings, it's funny because the entire thing is beautiful, but that was what really drew my eye. Great job! I can't wait to watch the rest of this outfit come together
Unfortunately, AI generated images as they exist now are completely unethical. They are trained on the work of real human artists who did not consent to their work being fed into it and who were not compensated for their work being taken. So AI generated images are created using stolen work, and even calling it artificial intelligence is a misnomer because the machines are not capable of independent, original thought, so they are not intelligent. These AI generated images are merely an amalgamation of the images that were fed into it, and the stolen work is embedded in the data of the imagery the machine outputs. Using AI imagery machines actively helps train them, too (so it helps them get better at stealing and looking less odd/like fake work). If an AI image generation tool were to be ethical, it would have to be completely rebuilt from scratch, only using works from artists who consented and were compensated for their work (or from work already in the public domain). Obviously that would be very expensive, so that's never going to happen unless laws or lawsuits force them to dismantle the current AI image generation machines and rebuild new ones ethically.
Adding a bit more to your really well done explanation, if you don't mind: AI generation, be it text or imagery, is also absolutely apocalyptic for the environment. Every single click of that button is essentially pouring out an entire bottle of water on the ground. Generating a whole batch until you get something that looks relatively good is enormously wasteful. I write this June 22nd, in 95 degree weather in PENNSYLVANIA, that will continue for the next week or so. This is climate change and this will be the coldest summer for the rest of my life unless we get some kind of hold on the waste of capitalism.
@@Bokatisha1234 Yes, thank you for adding that information about the environmental cost. As you point out, it is a huge energy draw, and thus phenomenally environmentally detrimental. But it is hard to conceptualize, since we never see where and how the data is processed. I think it's like the cloud for data storage--because of the way it has been branded, we don't think of the actual physical space and energy that the cloud actually takes, which is huge, centralized server rooms, rather than something nebulous and ephemeral that the branding implies. I would like to point out, though, that most people don't know about these ethical and environmental issues with AI. Advertisements are shoving AI down our throats, saying how it's "so cool and convenient." We as individuals have to ask how we even have this technology and how it works, and then also take the step to go hunt down this information on how (unethically) it was created and it's impact on artists' livelihoods and the environment.
Thanks both for talking about the environmental aspect! I didn’t know about that part until like last week, but I’d already made the costume and videos and I wanted to be transparent about my process. I definitely think art theft is terrible (obviously lol) but I still am not entirely able to wrap my brain around how Pinterest is much different since a large majority of the art there is also there without artists knowledge or consent? But maybe that more means Pinterest is also not very ethical rather than sliding the other direction? But the point you mentioned about using it encouraging more theft of art is a good one so that definitely eclipses that debate! Anyways, I def don't want to do anything to harm anyone else (as much as I can personally control in today's society 🙃) so I'll refrain in the future!
@@moth.faerie I appreciate being transparent about your process, and I've seen enough of your videos to recognize that you had no bad intentions. That's why I wanted to add that it's very understandable to be ignorant of the issues. And it is hard to wrap your head around some of this stuff because of the lack of transparency of the tech companies pushing AI! I understand where the confusion comes from on the difference between something like Pinterest and AI generated images. I think there's a fundamental difference in foundations, though. The very foundation of AI generated work is unethical and primarily stolen, as mentioned above. The foundation of Pinterest is not a corrupt one because the foundation is one of people voluntarily uploading images of their work or historical images. So the foundation is not corrupt, but there are a lot of bad actors abusing the system and uploading work they have stolen but are pretending to be their own. So while the entire foundation of AI generated images needs to be rebuilt to be ethical, the foundation of Pinterest does not, since Pinterest does not need to rebuild their source code, merely be better about enforcing the removal of illegally uploaded work.
@@moth.faerie Oh man Pinterest is the fucking worst, I can't stand that site for exactly that reason and don't understand how they've gotten as big and lasted as long as they have given how sketchy they are.
I don't usually comment, but I'm glad to see that your community has been vocal regarding the use of AI, its practice of unethical data-collection, and the devaluation of art/salaried artists. I too was greatly disappointed to hear that one of my favorite creators had begun to use it. Though the appeal of AI generation is understandable, I'd like to add my voice to those encouraging you to rely upon your own personal human ingenuity and creativity going forward, not only as an opponent of AI, but as a supporter of your talent. You've always been a wonderful creator, and I hope I can continue to follow and support your work in the future.
I asked for opinions in the video bc I was unsure and was def not informed on the environmental impact or the larger scope of the problem! I wanted to be transparent about my process tho so I didn't want to just gloss over it
love. all gorgeous! the silk chiffon pirate blouse is stunning, and i adore how the embroidered blue fabric turned out. the whole ensemble is lovely--can't wait to see the rest of the series!
i love your work, and i loved this top! that said - i don't think the use of AI generated images can ever be ethical even just using it as a "jumping off" point. AI trains on artwork and styles stolen from artists often without their consent and using it, even a little, creates more of a demand for those softwares and for artwork to continue to be stolen. genuinely, i don't think you were doing anything maliciously, but i do hope you can take that to heart.
Thank you for your thoughts! So the generator I used had a bar at the bottom of the screen where it showed the photos it had pulled from (idk if they removed that feature I can't find it now), so I had felt like it was fairly similar to using images from Pinterest for inspo, but also was unsure so that's why I asked for opinions! With the comments I've gotten regarding environmental concerns and points like yours that it contributes to a larger problem are reasons enough for me to refrain from using it in the future, but I wanted to be transparent about my process for this project!
Hi! I would love to make something like this for my first ren faire, but I am not at all an advanced enough sewer to decipher what is going on here 😂 are there any simple written instructions for the construction of this top? If not, no worries!! I just thought I would ask. This turned out so lovely by the way 😊
AI bad... Enough said. Question on silk chiffon with metalic threads at the renn faire: is the finished blouse washable? I love the idea of working with those types of materials, but that investment requires wearing them multiple times, and the rennfair climate is sweaty, dusty, and generally high-risk.
This turned out super pretty! Love the shimmery fabric 😍 Re: the whole ai debate we're all dealing with right now- I'm personally against it, since it's using other people's art without their consent as a training model. I think other people in the comments have stated it better than I currently can at this time. Unrelated to ai- those cuffs are so fun, I also love Saltwater Stitches' work, so beautiful... it looked like you weren't having the most fun with your metallic embroidery thread though, can I suggest DMC's Diamant line of thread? It doesn't do the horrendous-to-work-with splitty thing that their other metallic thread does, and *mostly* behaves itself lol
also I second the other users that caution AI use- right now its extremely unethical and profits off artists copyrighted work. I don't think you used it in an unethical way but the foundation of the majority of the models are based on webscraped copyrighted work and i would be extremely cautious and probably avoid it just to be safe! Thanks for your transparency on your process :)
I love this idea! I do think there's a distinct difference between using AI to help visualize and get inspo with which to create your own art and using AI as art. Energy consumption aside, I don't personally find your use of AI unethical.
I have to admit... That the final outfit looks SO MUCH BETTER than the AI images that you used! Enough has been said about AI, I think it's not a fault by itself to use it as an inspiration , as long as you create your own version of it :) (the fault is more on big corporations using it and people that make AI models that clearly have no ethics) It's good to be conscious about what's behind, but let's not forget that everything you've done- from drawing the costume, to sewing, embroidery and makup, is 100 % human, and is amazing. Just enjoy creating amazing stuff , that's the most important :)
Hi, I absolutely love this shirt and am trying to make something similar for when I go to the ren faire! I know this wasn't a tutorial per say but I had 2 questions, When you say that you were going to halve the moresca measurements because you didn't have enough fabric, did you mean that you were halving the width of the sleeves and top (aka just making them less gathered?) Did that mean you were essentially halving the 42" width of the sleeve piece, and only making it about 21" (so on the fold, the piece you cut was only about ~10.5 inches)? Also it almost looked like you used a piece of elastic in one of the 3 channels at the top of the shirt, but I wasn't entirely sure if that was just footage of you putting elastic at the bottom of the shirt. Hopefully those make sense ! Thanks!
hi! yes, halving the width so it's 21", I put elastic in the back half of the three channels, so it's a drawstring from the back sleeve seam to the center front, and an elastic in the back shirt section for all three channels. I did also put elastic in the bottom of the shirt and hem of the sleeves. hopefully that makes sense! pls ask if you need any more clarification!
@@moth.faerie Thank you so much for the quick response. Yes, that all makes sense. Elastic in the back of the shirt is such a good idea so you can have the aesthetic of ties, but some benefits of elastic!
This was such a lovely process to watch, I'm excited to see the rest of the series!! I loved the reflection at the end. You put a lot of thought into your creations and it really shows ❤ ALSOO glad to see you opening up the comments section for more discussion and what counts as ethical/unethical in a non-argumentative manner. I'm currently taking UX/UI design classes, and it integrates use of AI into the course. It mentions that AI is still in its baby stages and can definitely help with brainstorming designs (we had some assignments that actually required using AI or making pinterest boards lol). Not that I support it, but obv there's a very gray area to its usage. ;; I definitely question the ethics around incorporating it into a professional atmosphere, but the way you utilized it in this video is very similar to how we've utilized it in an academic setting. In any case life is short, be the glitter pirate you aspire to be! You did a fastastic job❤❤❤
Thank you!♥️ and it does seem to be an inevitability that ai will (and has already) become a part of everybody’s work process whether or not it’s in a creative field. Hopefully regulations get put into place that will help curb the bad parts soon!
all these top comments about AI don't even mention the amount of energy it takes to produce AI anything...i don't personally see too much of an issue in using it the way you did, you aren't selling anything or pretending you made it yourself so honestly 🤷♀️ it's the energy and water usage that needs to be front and center imo!! but rarely do arguments against AI really broadcast the toll it takes on the earth's resources. anyway this project is so beautiful!!❤
I only found out about the environmental impact last week and had already made the costume, but that reason is def enough that id rather not use ai now!
The ethics of AI art in regards to personal use aside there is also the increasing environmental concern about how much power running all these AI programs is taking up. I have read a few articles about how the impact is already on par with the NFT / Crypto farm drain and only increasing so that is...not great. That makes me antsy. But the finished project is beautiful as always. You look very nice all dressed up and the make up is chiefs kiss as always.
So many people hating on ai even though it was just for inspiration. Designing a look is just the very beginning of a project and to discredit the whole process of pattern making fitting sewing and decorating is unfair. Corporations need to be better about how ai is trained but I for one will not overlook a well executed sewing project and all the hard work that went into it.
Many of the comments aren't criticising the process though, and should not. I guess we're all just a bit burned by AI, especially in creative spaces, so I understand the sentiment. Thankfully most comments aren't personal attacks
AI along with using art without consent, is also bad for the environment as it uses so much energy and water to collate and generate the data. I think we would all appreciate if you refrain in future please!
I only found out about the environmental impact last week after this costume and video had already been made but it's definitely enough to make me rethink using ai in the future, thank you for your comment!
My 2 cents: the pushback you're receiving about the AI usage only half justified. AI is not inherently bad. OF COURSE it's wrong to train vision-language models on real artists' works without their consent, BUT it's also just as wrong (in my opinion) to flash an unattributed pinterest image on the screen and "cite" that as your inspiration. The latter is kind of the norm for online content creators, but people don't make nearly as much fuss about it. I think also think there's a HUGE difference between making a 2D digital image and sewing a real-life garment. You are not claiming that the AI-generated images are your art. You are claiming that the real, physical garment that you put hours of work into, that is tailored for your body, is your art. Derivativeness is acceptable (in my opinion) in the art of sewing, because everyone should have the ability to make something for themselves to wear. If you want to recreate, copy, or make a very similar version of an existing garment, that is acceptable (in my opinion) as long as you credit the original maker. In this case, where the garment is an amalgam of niche aesthetic trends, I don't really see a moral distinction between using AI to generate inspirational images, and scrolling pinterest or google ot tiktok for inspirational images (these websites are already using AI algorithms to decide what images to show you anyway). Literally the only qualm here (in my opinion) is that publicly available AI image generators are trained on art without the artists' consent.
Thank you for your thoughts, this is pretty much how I also feel regarding this part of the ai debate! The environmental impact is def enough to make me rethink using ai as a tool so for the future I'll be avoiding it!
What's the difference between AI and "I can't afford this dress so I made it" videos? I haven't seen anyone complaining about those. Nor do I ever see anyone complaining about stash or haul or decluttering videos, which are all using more resources to create something that's then put in a closet and never actually used, or just taken to Goodwill after years. I'm not saying you're the same people, but people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. I hope the people who are saying "you shouldn't use AI even once" have never ever put something that could be recycled in the trash, or bought something they didn't need or bought something new they could have thrifted, because karma.... There's no need to be so aggressive to someone who stepped forward and asked hesitantly for your opinion. It's an evolving situation, and people like Minji who are feeling out how new tools could/should be used and starting the discussion shouldn't be punished for it because they'll be discouraged from doing so, and then we won't have a discussion at all.
i am a bit waffly on the AI ethics debates being brought up in the comments (in the sense that i don't necessarily agree but could be convinced). many times when creators want to look for inspiration for making their own art, they look on Pinterest, aggregate boards, wtct, and most artists also don't intentionally share their art to be reposted to those aggregators. if someone wants to use an image as inspiration to create their own new art, is it unethical unless they can track down the original person who posted the art and ask for permission?
I get your point with the pinterest thing - but I believe the main difference, the one that makes AI unethical, is the fact that the art people upload & use as inspo on Pinterest or other such platforms is actually made by artists on their own, while 'art' created by AI generators steals data from artists without their consent and generates 'new art' based on that stolen data. So the art pieces generated with AI are, in their core, unethically made. I don't think it's okay to take someone's art, upload it on Pinterest and claim it as your own, but there's also a difference between stealing/copying and being inspired by something. AI has nothing to do with inspiration because the whole art itself is based on stolen data. To your question: As long as you're inspired and not copying, I don't think you have to ask for permission to be inspired (but it wouldn't hurt to do so ofc!) - art today is pretty vast and chances are what someone else did has been done before in some way. Every artist has been inspired by something or someone, after all!
I have to be honest, the use of AI for this concept is deplorable. As many people have said, AI "art" is completely unethical. These programs don't create anything, they just steal from artists who work hard to hone their craft and while I'm disappointed in folks who use it in general, it's an especially disappointing stance to see from you. You make a point not to buy from resellers at the ren faires you visit and share which ren faires do and do not allow people to sell non-artisan/mass produced goods. The goal is to support real artists who love what they do and want to share their talent and to compensate them fairly. Why is using AI art, for anything, any different from that? The artists that AI programs steal from are not any less deserving of having their art celebrated, shared, and properly valued. I can understand needing inspiration for your own art, but whether you're buying souvenirs at a ren faire or designing clothes for one as you did, there should be no theft from or exploitation of other artists at any point in that process. People (not you specifically) love to say there's no ethical consumption under capitalism, but you should hold it as a point of pride and integrity to be ethical in your own creation
Hey so first ty for the comment, I asked for opinions bc I was unsure how to navigate the topic as I mentioned in the video! Other commenters have made the point that ai is really bad for the environment and that generally using it feeds into an exploitative system which is reason enough for me to refrain from using it in the future. I started this costume and video series before I knew those aspects but wanted to be transparent in my process. I'd love an opinion on your thoughts regarding taking inspiration from content aggregation platforms like Pinterest where a large majority of the art is present without the artists consent, they're widely used but do you find those just as unethical? Not trying to argue or come off as aggressive, I know tone can be ambiguous over text! Other comments have stated the fundamental motives behind each (ai vs Pinterest specifically) contribute to how they view them so I also can get behind that but I like to hear as many opinions as possible!
@@moth.faerie Hi!! Thank you for taking the time to reply and I'm glad you're taking the comments of the community with an open spirit!! Personally I've never been a fan of Pinterest either and don't use it in my own art. I think any use of an artist's work without credit is pretty bad whether that's through uncredited images on Pinterest or artist's work being fed through AI without consent. That said, it is difficult but a little easier to credit artists whose work you found using Pinterest. There are sometimes watermarks you can refer back to to find the original artist, occasionally a piece will link directly back to the original creator, and reverse image search can be tricky but doable in some cases. So while it would be ideal not to use Pinterest at all, I know that it's going to be like half the results you get if you Google what you're looking for and as long as you're willing to do the leg work, you can credit the artists whose work inspired you and direct people to appreciate their work instead of the Pinterest post that was made without their consent. Like you said, lots of people have spoken about the difference between the two and I agree with them that the foundations of Pinterest vs AI are completely different. One was made so that people could upload their own art and the other was specifically made and trained on art that cannot be ethically used in that way. I think there's a difference between people using a platform that was made with good intentions in an unethical way compared to people using an inherently unethical platform. At least if you're using Pinterest, you have ways to mitigate the harm to artists having their work posted there without permission by properly crediting them. Taking inspiration from AI makes that whole thing kind of impossible. You don't really have any way of telling whose artwork and style has been replicated to create the images you're seeing or how many there are or where to find them
So I get all that for the most part, but I don't think it's really within reasonable expectation to credit every single source of inspiration for every work. Obviously if something is a direct inspiration, like how I credited the artist who inspired the wrist band embroidery, there should be a listed credit. However, frequently in the process of creation there a hundreds to thousands of influences ranging from an image seen on Pinterest the other day to art in a museum that was visited decades ago. There's no way to credit every single one of those works and artists, and if I were to inspire someone in an aggregated indirect way I would never expect credit for that nor would I probably even notice that they had taken inspiration from me. I recently got a dm asking if it was ok for someone to use the same patterns I did for my victorian alice cosplay, to which I replied that they're not patterns I created so they're not mine to permit someone to use or not. I said they could credit if they use the same pattern modifications I detailed in my video, since they're pretty specific to the project, but I'm well aware that my (and all) art is derivative on some level and so I wouldn't expect a credit anytime someone creates something indirectly referential. Like I mentioned before, Ill be refraining from using AI as a tool in the future, due to the larger scope of the problem, however I don't think the lack of crediting is really comparable to the level of exploitation present in mass manufacturing (for your example of buying from resellers vs artisans), and aggregating from Pinterest or image generators still feels similar to aggregating on Instagram for like ✨vibes✨ and inspo if that makes sense (outside of the general systemic and platform problems of course). But please feel free to explain further! (And to clarify I'm not saying that any level of exploitation is acceptable, but we're kind of at a pick your battles stage of capitalism rn. Also exploitation due to environmental burden is a different argument entirely, I just wanted to address your example regarding art theft/resellers etc) Hopefully that wasnt too hard to follow, the window I have to type comments in is very small so I'm not able to see everything I've typed at once 😅
I'm really disappointed at the use of Ai. You still Are profiting off of the stolen images used to create the references by way of the adsense, which may not be much but it is still theft from hard working artists or coming up with something on your own. No hate from me just disappointment. 😢
This reason here is why I'm not going to watch the video. It's really disappointing she even thought it was okay to use AI given HOW LOUD the discourse about it has been. All these inspiration images are from artists she can't credit because she has no idea where the AI pulled the art from. Why not just commission an artist for ideas then?
Stopped watching for the same reason. She admitted to knowing there’s discourse around the use of AI, admitted to using it anyway, and asked us to leave our opinions in the comments, gaining more interactions, all on a video she will profit off of. Here I am helping out… but she at least won’t get another view from me on this one. (Or possibly any others…) Talk to visual artists who are being ripped off by AI. One of my best friends is one of them and in order to file a claim to pull her art from AI, she has to prove that they’ve stolen it. How the hell is she supposed to do that?! It’s so corrupt and immoral. There’s no grey area about it. I’ve seen a quote going around recently I liked and it goes something like: I want AI to do my chores so I have time to do art, I don’t want my AI to do my art so I have time to do chores. The use of AI images is bad and everyone should stop so it can go away like any failed technology.
Hey so first ty for the comment, I asked for opinions bc I was unsure how to navigate the topic as I mentioned in the video! Other commenters have made the point that ai is really bad for the environment and that generally using it feeds into an exploitative system which is reason enough for me to refrain from using it in the future. I started this costume and video series before I knew those aspects but wanted to be transparent in my process. I'd love an opinion on your thoughts regarding taking inspiration from content aggregation platforms like Pinterest where a large majority of the art is present without the artists consent, they're widely used but do you find those just as unethical? Not trying to argue or come off as aggressive, I know tone can be ambiguous over text! Other comments have stated the fundamental motives behind each (ai vs Pinterest specifically) contribute to how they view them so I also can get behind that but I like to hear as many opinions as possible!
@@moth.faerieI loved this video, I loved that you were transparent about the use of AI😊 I'm also uncertain about the ethics surrounding Pinterest or Instagram as inspiration for an outfit 🤷🏻♀️ I do it all the time to see where seams go and what colours work together
@@moth.faeriefor me as an artist it feels like with stolen art reposted on Pinterest, reverse image searching has gotten good enough to where there's at least a chance you'll be able to find the artist if you like the art. Many of the pieces reposted onto Pinterest do still link back to an artist anyways, even if the artist themselves aren't the one who reuploaded it. With AI art, the pieces it spits out are divorced enough from the original artists it stole from that no amount of reverse image searching will actually let you find the artist that inspired it, cutting off any silver lining of "free promotion." They're both bad situations, but with one you can at least find a good side if you squint.
I absolutely hate current AI generation apps, ChatGPT or otherwise. They are all unethically trained so your "inspiration" is actually being stolen from multiple creators and coz IA just regurgitates stolen content, you cannot even credit the artist you are drawing inspiration from. In fact, I clicked on your video after closing another one coz they were using ChatGPT, was so disappointed to learn a few mins in that you had ALSO used IA... I only came back a few hours later to finally watch the video just to see if you addressed its unethical origin. Cute project tho...
Hey so first ty for the comment, I asked for opinions bc I was unsure how to navigate the topic as I mentioned in the video! Other commenters have made the point that ai is really bad for the environment and that generally using it feeds into an exploitative system which is reason enough for me to refrain from using it in the future. I started this costume and video series before I knew those aspects but wanted to be transparent in my process. I'd love an opinion on your thoughts regarding taking inspiration from content aggregation platforms like Pinterest where a large majority of the art is present without the artists consent, they're widely used but do you find those just as unethical? Not trying to argue or come off as aggressive, I know tone can be ambiguous over text! Other comments have stated the fundamental motives behind each (ai vs Pinterest specifically) contribute to how they view them so I also can get behind that but I like to hear as many opinions as possible!
@@moth.faerie I don't usually use Pinterest and from what I saw last time I checked, it was overtaken via IA generated images too. I prefer using Instagram when searching for "vibes" but if I stumble upon a photo that has been re-uploaded via a 3rd party account that doesn't credit the original artist/sewist/cosplayer, I reverse search the picture and more often than not I am able to find the original poster. I am of the opinion that even if it takes more time, be it on Pinterest, Google or Instagram, we should try to find and credit the original creator(s) if substantial inspo has been taken from their products or, if it only gives you a minor idea, at least try to support the creator with a like/subscribe/comment. Using IA entirely erases that possibility and takes disproportionately from minor creators
AI art is absolutely unethical. Beyond even the art theft issues it's utterly apocalyptic for the environment in terms of both power and water usage. In addition, whilst I doubt you care about the opinion of one subscriber, I initially subscribed because of your really cool and creative design ideas, and now knowing that AI was used even once really discourages me from watching in the future. I know pinterest and other "inspiration board" sites have huge stolen art problems, but I still think you're able to exert an effort to be ethical and not use stolen art or AI generated images, whilst when using AI that's literally impossible based on how the image generator was trained.
I get sad when I'm just a little shy of what I need fabric wise too 🥲. But the top looked fabulous with all the ruffles and gathers. Loved the red hair by the way! I was thinking about doing the same with my hair. With your arm bands, would you hand wash those or dry clean them?
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I think for me the difference between pinterest and AI in terms of art theft is that if i wanted to i could still track down the source for at least 80% of the images, if not more. And it’s *intended* use is to gather images, with links back to the source and proper credit, even if people abuse its functionalities. AI as it currently exist has art theft baked into it’s foundations. Also, artists are able to request DMCA takedowns of reposts on pinterest, while that is impossible with AI software.
Others have mentioned the environmental cost already so i have nothing to add there.
That’s just the ethical side, but i think AI is also detrimental to human creativity in the long run. As AI runs out of material to recycle, it will start to cannibalize images it has already put out, so results will become increasingly generic as time goes on. It also is highly discouraging to artists who are reluctant to post/share their work online out of fear that it will be used to feed these algorithms.
And for context, this is my perspective as an artist and costumer with a large portion of my design degree being focused on the potential ramifications of AI.
I do really like what you made, but i think it’s a concept you probably would have come up with even without using AI since it’s very much in line with the style and quality you’ve produced before.
I totally get that and agree! I think a bit of the misunderstanding is coming from my intention that I was using it as more of a visual aid than a coming up with ideas aid, if that makes sense? Less that I need ai to come up with the design and more that I have so many ideas and not enough time to fully render them to see which direction I want to go, and I was hoping to expedite the part of the design process that I find a bit tedious 😅 but all the discussion has come up with some convincing arguments for me to avoid using it, at least until (if ever) there are more regulations and ways to systemically make it more ethical on an art theft and environmental level
I appreciate how much Minji was transparent about using ai as references and inspiration and therein trying to learn more about the ethical issues with it. I think it can be difficult to find a coherent message to any issue online especially if youre not constantly online, and don't know what sources to trust when a lot are conflicting. 😅 heaven forbid people be human and make mistakes
I love how the beading and embroidery stitches turned out! Plus the blue hair really adds to the look 💙🏴☠️✨
I would love to see a video about where you get all your sewing supplies (and honestly any sort of organization/room tours are my favorite - especially since it looks like you’re rearranging your sewing room!) I have always just gotten stuff at Joann’s because I can go in person, but it seems like a lot of places can cheaper when you buy in bulk and are more professional? Hopefully that could be a chill video and would help with sewing ~related~ content but not contribute as much to the burn out 😊 that is all too real
Even without considering the ethical AI issues (which one obviously should), asking ai to generate an image takes SO MUCH ENERGY it's absurd
I only found out about the energy consumption last week and that’s definitely a huge concern for me!
i havent watched the whole video yet but i gotta say, your hair looks so good. also personally, i avoid using AI at all because i don't want to contribute to the market for it, and it does get better the more it's used. more than preventing AI from getting better though, i feel there needs to be laws quickly enacted and enforced to at least make it punishable in court to use AI work as your own, which takes time and money and lobbying :/ it's complicated! so all i can do for now is avoid it
okay now that i've watched it, the shirt turned out so good!! i love the shape and look of it, it's really cute
Ty for your thoughts I def agree it needs to be regulated far more heavily! Now that I've gotten more input on the larger scope and the environmental impact I'd also rather avoid it, but when I started the design process I had figured it was on a similar level to taking inspiration from the (largely uncredited) work on Pinterest and I wanted to be transparent in my process! Ty about the shirt too 😊♥️
I loved watching you make the bodice 😍 All of the jingly details are a dream
I really love the three channels for the drawstrings, it's funny because the entire thing is beautiful, but that was what really drew my eye. Great job! I can't wait to watch the rest of this outfit come together
Treasure Planet!! Or at least that's the vibe I'm getting. =)
I’m obsessed with this project I could care less how you got your inspiration. I’m here for the sewing and whimsy!!!
The black hair looks SO good
I always look forward to your costuming videos. The sewing asmr is so soothing while I panic paint and haphazardly sew like a bafoon.
Haha the asmr is deceptive my process is also mostly panic sewing 😅
Unfortunately, AI generated images as they exist now are completely unethical. They are trained on the work of real human artists who did not consent to their work being fed into it and who were not compensated for their work being taken. So AI generated images are created using stolen work, and even calling it artificial intelligence is a misnomer because the machines are not capable of independent, original thought, so they are not intelligent. These AI generated images are merely an amalgamation of the images that were fed into it, and the stolen work is embedded in the data of the imagery the machine outputs. Using AI imagery machines actively helps train them, too (so it helps them get better at stealing and looking less odd/like fake work).
If an AI image generation tool were to be ethical, it would have to be completely rebuilt from scratch, only using works from artists who consented and were compensated for their work (or from work already in the public domain). Obviously that would be very expensive, so that's never going to happen unless laws or lawsuits force them to dismantle the current AI image generation machines and rebuild new ones ethically.
Adding a bit more to your really well done explanation, if you don't mind:
AI generation, be it text or imagery, is also absolutely apocalyptic for the environment. Every single click of that button is essentially pouring out an entire bottle of water on the ground. Generating a whole batch until you get something that looks relatively good is enormously wasteful. I write this June 22nd, in 95 degree weather in PENNSYLVANIA, that will continue for the next week or so. This is climate change and this will be the coldest summer for the rest of my life unless we get some kind of hold on the waste of capitalism.
@@Bokatisha1234 Yes, thank you for adding that information about the environmental cost. As you point out, it is a huge energy draw, and thus phenomenally environmentally detrimental. But it is hard to conceptualize, since we never see where and how the data is processed. I think it's like the cloud for data storage--because of the way it has been branded, we don't think of the actual physical space and energy that the cloud actually takes, which is huge, centralized server rooms, rather than something nebulous and ephemeral that the branding implies.
I would like to point out, though, that most people don't know about these ethical and environmental issues with AI. Advertisements are shoving AI down our throats, saying how it's "so cool and convenient." We as individuals have to ask how we even have this technology and how it works, and then also take the step to go hunt down this information on how (unethically) it was created and it's impact on artists' livelihoods and the environment.
Thanks both for talking about the environmental aspect! I didn’t know about that part until like last week, but I’d already made the costume and videos and I wanted to be transparent about my process. I definitely think art theft is terrible (obviously lol) but I still am not entirely able to wrap my brain around how Pinterest is much different since a large majority of the art there is also there without artists knowledge or consent? But maybe that more means Pinterest is also not very ethical rather than sliding the other direction? But the point you mentioned about using it encouraging more theft of art is a good one so that definitely eclipses that debate! Anyways, I def don't want to do anything to harm anyone else (as much as I can personally control in today's society 🙃) so I'll refrain in the future!
@@moth.faerie I appreciate being transparent about your process, and I've seen enough of your videos to recognize that you had no bad intentions. That's why I wanted to add that it's very understandable to be ignorant of the issues. And it is hard to wrap your head around some of this stuff because of the lack of transparency of the tech companies pushing AI!
I understand where the confusion comes from on the difference between something like Pinterest and AI generated images. I think there's a fundamental difference in foundations, though. The very foundation of AI generated work is unethical and primarily stolen, as mentioned above. The foundation of Pinterest is not a corrupt one because the foundation is one of people voluntarily uploading images of their work or historical images. So the foundation is not corrupt, but there are a lot of bad actors abusing the system and uploading work they have stolen but are pretending to be their own. So while the entire foundation of AI generated images needs to be rebuilt to be ethical, the foundation of Pinterest does not, since Pinterest does not need to rebuild their source code, merely be better about enforcing the removal of illegally uploaded work.
@@moth.faerie Oh man Pinterest is the fucking worst, I can't stand that site for exactly that reason and don't understand how they've gotten as big and lasted as long as they have given how sketchy they are.
I don't usually comment, but I'm glad to see that your community has been vocal regarding the use of AI, its practice of unethical data-collection, and the devaluation of art/salaried artists. I too was greatly disappointed to hear that one of my favorite creators had begun to use it. Though the appeal of AI generation is understandable, I'd like to add my voice to those encouraging you to rely upon your own personal human ingenuity and creativity going forward, not only as an opponent of AI, but as a supporter of your talent. You've always been a wonderful creator, and I hope I can continue to follow and support your work in the future.
I asked for opinions in the video bc I was unsure and was def not informed on the environmental impact or the larger scope of the problem! I wanted to be transparent about my process tho so I didn't want to just gloss over it
love. all gorgeous! the silk chiffon pirate blouse is stunning, and i adore how the embroidered blue fabric turned out. the whole ensemble is lovely--can't wait to see the rest of the series!
i highly suggest not using ai in the future for reasons that many other people in the comments explained, but thw project still turned out wonderful!
Commenting for the algorithm. The costume is amazing.
REALLY dislike A.I.
it ended up being pretty cute
i love your work, and i loved this top!
that said - i don't think the use of AI generated images can ever be ethical even just using it as a "jumping off" point. AI trains on artwork and styles stolen from artists often without their consent and using it, even a little, creates more of a demand for those softwares and for artwork to continue to be stolen. genuinely, i don't think you were doing anything maliciously, but i do hope you can take that to heart.
Thank you for your thoughts! So the generator I used had a bar at the bottom of the screen where it showed the photos it had pulled from (idk if they removed that feature I can't find it now), so I had felt like it was fairly similar to using images from Pinterest for inspo, but also was unsure so that's why I asked for opinions! With the comments I've gotten regarding environmental concerns and points like yours that it contributes to a larger problem are reasons enough for me to refrain from using it in the future, but I wanted to be transparent about my process for this project!
@@moth.faerie love and appreciate the transparency! looking forward to seeing the next vid in the series
turned out so pretty! can't wait to see the rest of the outfit!!
Hi! I would love to make something like this for my first ren faire, but I am not at all an advanced enough sewer to decipher what is going on here 😂 are there any simple written instructions for the construction of this top? If not, no worries!! I just thought I would ask. This turned out so lovely by the way 😊
✨️✨️glittery pirates✨️✨️
This project turned out so well! I particularly liked the extra gathering details around the neckline of the blouse; they’re so pretty!
Thank you! Very pleased with how the neckline turned out 🥰
AI bad... Enough said.
Question on silk chiffon with metalic threads at the renn faire: is the finished blouse washable? I love the idea of working with those types of materials, but that investment requires wearing them multiple times, and the rennfair climate is sweaty, dusty, and generally high-risk.
I hand wash it, idk that I'd trust it in the machine! But usually when I hand wash stuffi just bring it in the shower with me lol
The full outfit with makeup you show off at the end is just stunning
Amazing job as always! Costume, makeup, hair ✅✅✅💯🌟
This turned out super pretty! Love the shimmery fabric 😍
Re: the whole ai debate we're all dealing with right now- I'm personally against it, since it's using other people's art without their consent as a training model. I think other people in the comments have stated it better than I currently can at this time.
Unrelated to ai- those cuffs are so fun, I also love Saltwater Stitches' work, so beautiful... it looked like you weren't having the most fun with your metallic embroidery thread though, can I suggest DMC's Diamant line of thread? It doesn't do the horrendous-to-work-with splitty thing that their other metallic thread does, and *mostly* behaves itself lol
Ty for the thread recommendation! I'll def try that next time ♥️
Yay sparkles!!!!
can’t wait for the rest of the series! ❤
also I second the other users that caution AI use- right now its extremely unethical and profits off artists copyrighted work. I don't think you used it in an unethical way but the foundation of the majority of the models are based on webscraped copyrighted work and i would be extremely cautious and probably avoid it just to be safe! Thanks for your transparency on your process :)
I may have missed it in the video, but what was the type of fabric that you used? And where did you get it?
I love this idea! I do think there's a distinct difference between using AI to help visualize and get inspo with which to create your own art and using AI as art. Energy consumption aside, I don't personally find your use of AI unethical.
I have to admit... That the final outfit looks SO MUCH BETTER than the AI images that you used! Enough has been said about AI, I think it's not a fault by itself to use it as an inspiration , as long as you create your own version of it :) (the fault is more on big corporations using it and people that make AI models that clearly have no ethics) It's good to be conscious about what's behind, but let's not forget that everything you've done- from drawing the costume, to sewing, embroidery and makup, is 100 % human, and is amazing. Just enjoy creating amazing stuff , that's the most important :)
Haha thank you, I appreciate it! It's always nice when the final product turns out better than the original design ♥️
🐈⬛ i love how relaxing your videos are to watch 🐈⬛
so excited to see this series!
Hi, I absolutely love this shirt and am trying to make something similar for when I go to the ren faire! I know this wasn't a tutorial per say but I had 2 questions, When you say that you were going to halve the moresca measurements because you didn't have enough fabric, did you mean that you were halving the width of the sleeves and top (aka just making them less gathered?) Did that mean you were essentially halving the 42" width of the sleeve piece, and only making it about 21" (so on the fold, the piece you cut was only about ~10.5 inches)?
Also it almost looked like you used a piece of elastic in one of the 3 channels at the top of the shirt, but I wasn't entirely sure if that was just footage of you putting elastic at the bottom of the shirt. Hopefully those make sense ! Thanks!
hi! yes, halving the width so it's 21", I put elastic in the back half of the three channels, so it's a drawstring from the back sleeve seam to the center front, and an elastic in the back shirt section for all three channels. I did also put elastic in the bottom of the shirt and hem of the sleeves. hopefully that makes sense! pls ask if you need any more clarification!
@@moth.faerie Thank you so much for the quick response. Yes, that all makes sense. Elastic in the back of the shirt is such a good idea so you can have the aesthetic of ties, but some benefits of elastic!
This was such a lovely process to watch, I'm excited to see the rest of the series!! I loved the reflection at the end. You put a lot of thought into your creations and it really shows ❤ ALSOO glad to see you opening up the comments section for more discussion and what counts as ethical/unethical in a non-argumentative manner.
I'm currently taking UX/UI design classes, and it integrates use of AI into the course. It mentions that AI is still in its baby stages and can definitely help with brainstorming designs (we had some assignments that actually required using AI or making pinterest boards lol). Not that I support it, but obv there's a very gray area to its usage. ;; I definitely question the ethics around incorporating it into a professional atmosphere, but the way you utilized it in this video is very similar to how we've utilized it in an academic setting.
In any case life is short, be the glitter pirate you aspire to be! You did a fastastic job❤❤❤
Thank you!♥️ and it does seem to be an inevitability that ai will (and has already) become a part of everybody’s work process whether or not it’s in a creative field. Hopefully regulations get put into place that will help curb the bad parts soon!
all these top comments about AI don't even mention the amount of energy it takes to produce AI anything...i don't personally see too much of an issue in using it the way you did, you aren't selling anything or pretending you made it yourself so honestly 🤷♀️ it's the energy and water usage that needs to be front and center imo!! but rarely do arguments against AI really broadcast the toll it takes on the earth's resources. anyway this project is so beautiful!!❤
I only found out about the environmental impact last week and had already made the costume, but that reason is def enough that id rather not use ai now!
I love your hair!
I love the outfit ❤
Thanks!
Where is your fabric turning tool from? I haven't seen one like it!
Can't wait for the next videos!
It's called a fasturn and I got it on ebay!
Cool 😀
Hi what type of thread are you using for hand sewing?
I just bought some metallic thread from joann's!
The ethics of AI art in regards to personal use aside there is also the increasing environmental concern about how much power running all these AI programs is taking up. I have read a few articles about how the impact is already on par with the NFT / Crypto farm drain and only increasing so that is...not great. That makes me antsy.
But the finished project is beautiful as always. You look very nice all dressed up and the make up is chiefs kiss as always.
Yay!! This looks amazing, im so excited to watch this 🖤🖤💜💜💜 first comment
So many people hating on ai even though it was just for inspiration. Designing a look is just the very beginning of a project and to discredit the whole process of pattern making fitting sewing and decorating is unfair. Corporations need to be better about how ai is trained but I for one will not overlook a well executed sewing project and all the hard work that went into it.
Many of the comments aren't criticising the process though, and should not. I guess we're all just a bit burned by AI, especially in creative spaces, so I understand the sentiment. Thankfully most comments aren't personal attacks
AI along with using art without consent, is also bad for the environment as it uses so much energy and water to collate and generate the data. I think we would all appreciate if you refrain in future please!
I only found out about the environmental impact last week after this costume and video had already been made but it's definitely enough to make me rethink using ai in the future, thank you for your comment!
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My 2 cents: the pushback you're receiving about the AI usage only half justified. AI is not inherently bad. OF COURSE it's wrong to train vision-language models on real artists' works without their consent, BUT it's also just as wrong (in my opinion) to flash an unattributed pinterest image on the screen and "cite" that as your inspiration. The latter is kind of the norm for online content creators, but people don't make nearly as much fuss about it. I think also think there's a HUGE difference between making a 2D digital image and sewing a real-life garment. You are not claiming that the AI-generated images are your art. You are claiming that the real, physical garment that you put hours of work into, that is tailored for your body, is your art. Derivativeness is acceptable (in my opinion) in the art of sewing, because everyone should have the ability to make something for themselves to wear. If you want to recreate, copy, or make a very similar version of an existing garment, that is acceptable (in my opinion) as long as you credit the original maker. In this case, where the garment is an amalgam of niche aesthetic trends, I don't really see a moral distinction between using AI to generate inspirational images, and scrolling pinterest or google ot tiktok for inspirational images (these websites are already using AI algorithms to decide what images to show you anyway). Literally the only qualm here (in my opinion) is that publicly available AI image generators are trained on art without the artists' consent.
Thank you for your thoughts, this is pretty much how I also feel regarding this part of the ai debate! The environmental impact is def enough to make me rethink using ai as a tool so for the future I'll be avoiding it!
What's the difference between AI and "I can't afford this dress so I made it" videos? I haven't seen anyone complaining about those. Nor do I ever see anyone complaining about stash or haul or decluttering videos, which are all using more resources to create something that's then put in a closet and never actually used, or just taken to Goodwill after years.
I'm not saying you're the same people, but people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. I hope the people who are saying "you shouldn't use AI even once" have never ever put something that could be recycled in the trash, or bought something they didn't need or bought something new they could have thrifted, because karma.... There's no need to be so aggressive to someone who stepped forward and asked hesitantly for your opinion. It's an evolving situation, and people like Minji who are feeling out how new tools could/should be used and starting the discussion shouldn't be punished for it because they'll be discouraged from doing so, and then we won't have a discussion at all.
i am a bit waffly on the AI ethics debates being brought up in the comments (in the sense that i don't necessarily agree but could be convinced). many times when creators want to look for inspiration for making their own art, they look on Pinterest, aggregate boards, wtct, and most artists also don't intentionally share their art to be reposted to those aggregators. if someone wants to use an image as inspiration to create their own new art, is it unethical unless they can track down the original person who posted the art and ask for permission?
I get your point with the pinterest thing - but I believe the main difference, the one that makes AI unethical, is the fact that the art people upload & use as inspo on Pinterest or other such platforms is actually made by artists on their own, while 'art' created by AI generators steals data from artists without their consent and generates 'new art' based on that stolen data. So the art pieces generated with AI are, in their core, unethically made. I don't think it's okay to take someone's art, upload it on Pinterest and claim it as your own, but there's also a difference between stealing/copying and being inspired by something. AI has nothing to do with inspiration because the whole art itself is based on stolen data.
To your question: As long as you're inspired and not copying, I don't think you have to ask for permission to be inspired (but it wouldn't hurt to do so ofc!) - art today is pretty vast and chances are what someone else did has been done before in some way. Every artist has been inspired by something or someone, after all!
I have to be honest, the use of AI for this concept is deplorable. As many people have said, AI "art" is completely unethical. These programs don't create anything, they just steal from artists who work hard to hone their craft and while I'm disappointed in folks who use it in general, it's an especially disappointing stance to see from you.
You make a point not to buy from resellers at the ren faires you visit and share which ren faires do and do not allow people to sell non-artisan/mass produced goods. The goal is to support real artists who love what they do and want to share their talent and to compensate them fairly. Why is using AI art, for anything, any different from that? The artists that AI programs steal from are not any less deserving of having their art celebrated, shared, and properly valued.
I can understand needing inspiration for your own art, but whether you're buying souvenirs at a ren faire or designing clothes for one as you did, there should be no theft from or exploitation of other artists at any point in that process. People (not you specifically) love to say there's no ethical consumption under capitalism, but you should hold it as a point of pride and integrity to be ethical in your own creation
Hey so first ty for the comment, I asked for opinions bc I was unsure how to navigate the topic as I mentioned in the video! Other commenters have made the point that ai is really bad for the environment and that generally using it feeds into an exploitative system which is reason enough for me to refrain from using it in the future. I started this costume and video series before I knew those aspects but wanted to be transparent in my process. I'd love an opinion on your thoughts regarding taking inspiration from content aggregation platforms like Pinterest where a large majority of the art is present without the artists consent, they're widely used but do you find those just as unethical? Not trying to argue or come off as aggressive, I know tone can be ambiguous over text! Other comments have stated the fundamental motives behind each (ai vs Pinterest specifically) contribute to how they view them so I also can get behind that but I like to hear as many opinions as possible!
@@moth.faerie Hi!! Thank you for taking the time to reply and I'm glad you're taking the comments of the community with an open spirit!! Personally I've never been a fan of Pinterest either and don't use it in my own art. I think any use of an artist's work without credit is pretty bad whether that's through uncredited images on Pinterest or artist's work being fed through AI without consent. That said, it is difficult but a little easier to credit artists whose work you found using Pinterest. There are sometimes watermarks you can refer back to to find the original artist, occasionally a piece will link directly back to the original creator, and reverse image search can be tricky but doable in some cases. So while it would be ideal not to use Pinterest at all, I know that it's going to be like half the results you get if you Google what you're looking for and as long as you're willing to do the leg work, you can credit the artists whose work inspired you and direct people to appreciate their work instead of the Pinterest post that was made without their consent.
Like you said, lots of people have spoken about the difference between the two and I agree with them that the foundations of Pinterest vs AI are completely different. One was made so that people could upload their own art and the other was specifically made and trained on art that cannot be ethically used in that way. I think there's a difference between people using a platform that was made with good intentions in an unethical way compared to people using an inherently unethical platform. At least if you're using Pinterest, you have ways to mitigate the harm to artists having their work posted there without permission by properly crediting them. Taking inspiration from AI makes that whole thing kind of impossible. You don't really have any way of telling whose artwork and style has been replicated to create the images you're seeing or how many there are or where to find them
So I get all that for the most part, but I don't think it's really within reasonable expectation to credit every single source of inspiration for every work. Obviously if something is a direct inspiration, like how I credited the artist who inspired the wrist band embroidery, there should be a listed credit. However, frequently in the process of creation there a hundreds to thousands of influences ranging from an image seen on Pinterest the other day to art in a museum that was visited decades ago. There's no way to credit every single one of those works and artists, and if I were to inspire someone in an aggregated indirect way I would never expect credit for that nor would I probably even notice that they had taken inspiration from me.
I recently got a dm asking if it was ok for someone to use the same patterns I did for my victorian alice cosplay, to which I replied that they're not patterns I created so they're not mine to permit someone to use or not. I said they could credit if they use the same pattern modifications I detailed in my video, since they're pretty specific to the project, but I'm well aware that my (and all) art is derivative on some level and so I wouldn't expect a credit anytime someone creates something indirectly referential.
Like I mentioned before, Ill be refraining from using AI as a tool in the future, due to the larger scope of the problem, however I don't think the lack of crediting is really comparable to the level of exploitation present in mass manufacturing (for your example of buying from resellers vs artisans), and aggregating from Pinterest or image generators still feels similar to aggregating on Instagram for like ✨vibes✨ and inspo if that makes sense (outside of the general systemic and platform problems of course). But please feel free to explain further! (And to clarify I'm not saying that any level of exploitation is acceptable, but we're kind of at a pick your battles stage of capitalism rn. Also exploitation due to environmental burden is a different argument entirely, I just wanted to address your example regarding art theft/resellers etc)
Hopefully that wasnt too hard to follow, the window I have to type comments in is very small so I'm not able to see everything I've typed at once 😅
I'm really disappointed at the use of Ai. You still Are profiting off of the stolen images used to create the references by way of the adsense, which may not be much but it is still theft from hard working artists or coming up with something on your own. No hate from me just disappointment. 😢
This reason here is why I'm not going to watch the video. It's really disappointing she even thought it was okay to use AI given HOW LOUD the discourse about it has been. All these inspiration images are from artists she can't credit because she has no idea where the AI pulled the art from. Why not just commission an artist for ideas then?
Stopped watching for the same reason. She admitted to knowing there’s discourse around the use of AI, admitted to using it anyway, and asked us to leave our opinions in the comments, gaining more interactions, all on a video she will profit off of. Here I am helping out… but she at least won’t get another view from me on this one. (Or possibly any others…)
Talk to visual artists who are being ripped off by AI. One of my best friends is one of them and in order to file a claim to pull her art from AI, she has to prove that they’ve stolen it. How the hell is she supposed to do that?! It’s so corrupt and immoral. There’s no grey area about it.
I’ve seen a quote going around recently I liked and it goes something like: I want AI to do my chores so I have time to do art, I don’t want my AI to do my art so I have time to do chores.
The use of AI images is bad and everyone should stop so it can go away like any failed technology.
Hey so first ty for the comment, I asked for opinions bc I was unsure how to navigate the topic as I mentioned in the video! Other commenters have made the point that ai is really bad for the environment and that generally using it feeds into an exploitative system which is reason enough for me to refrain from using it in the future. I started this costume and video series before I knew those aspects but wanted to be transparent in my process. I'd love an opinion on your thoughts regarding taking inspiration from content aggregation platforms like Pinterest where a large majority of the art is present without the artists consent, they're widely used but do you find those just as unethical? Not trying to argue or come off as aggressive, I know tone can be ambiguous over text! Other comments have stated the fundamental motives behind each (ai vs Pinterest specifically) contribute to how they view them so I also can get behind that but I like to hear as many opinions as possible!
@@moth.faerieI loved this video, I loved that you were transparent about the use of AI😊 I'm also uncertain about the ethics surrounding Pinterest or Instagram as inspiration for an outfit 🤷🏻♀️ I do it all the time to see where seams go and what colours work together
@@moth.faeriefor me as an artist it feels like with stolen art reposted on Pinterest, reverse image searching has gotten good enough to where there's at least a chance you'll be able to find the artist if you like the art. Many of the pieces reposted onto Pinterest do still link back to an artist anyways, even if the artist themselves aren't the one who reuploaded it. With AI art, the pieces it spits out are divorced enough from the original artists it stole from that no amount of reverse image searching will actually let you find the artist that inspired it, cutting off any silver lining of "free promotion." They're both bad situations, but with one you can at least find a good side if you squint.
Which ai system did you use? I'm super interested in how people come up with these images
I absolutely hate current AI generation apps, ChatGPT or otherwise. They are all unethically trained so your "inspiration" is actually being stolen from multiple creators and coz IA just regurgitates stolen content, you cannot even credit the artist you are drawing inspiration from.
In fact, I clicked on your video after closing another one coz they were using ChatGPT, was so disappointed to learn a few mins in that you had ALSO used IA... I only came back a few hours later to finally watch the video just to see if you addressed its unethical origin.
Cute project tho...
Hey so first ty for the comment, I asked for opinions bc I was unsure how to navigate the topic as I mentioned in the video! Other commenters have made the point that ai is really bad for the environment and that generally using it feeds into an exploitative system which is reason enough for me to refrain from using it in the future. I started this costume and video series before I knew those aspects but wanted to be transparent in my process. I'd love an opinion on your thoughts regarding taking inspiration from content aggregation platforms like Pinterest where a large majority of the art is present without the artists consent, they're widely used but do you find those just as unethical? Not trying to argue or come off as aggressive, I know tone can be ambiguous over text! Other comments have stated the fundamental motives behind each (ai vs Pinterest specifically) contribute to how they view them so I also can get behind that but I like to hear as many opinions as possible!
@@moth.faerie I don't usually use Pinterest and from what I saw last time I checked, it was overtaken via IA generated images too. I prefer using Instagram when searching for "vibes" but if I stumble upon a photo that has been re-uploaded via a 3rd party account that doesn't credit the original artist/sewist/cosplayer, I reverse search the picture and more often than not I am able to find the original poster.
I am of the opinion that even if it takes more time, be it on Pinterest, Google or Instagram, we should try to find and credit the original creator(s) if substantial inspo has been taken from their products or, if it only gives you a minor idea, at least try to support the creator with a like/subscribe/comment.
Using IA entirely erases that possibility and takes disproportionately from minor creators
AI art is absolutely unethical. Beyond even the art theft issues it's utterly apocalyptic for the environment in terms of both power and water usage. In addition, whilst I doubt you care about the opinion of one subscriber, I initially subscribed because of your really cool and creative design ideas, and now knowing that AI was used even once really discourages me from watching in the future.
I know pinterest and other "inspiration board" sites have huge stolen art problems, but I still think you're able to exert an effort to be ethical and not use stolen art or AI generated images, whilst when using AI that's literally impossible based on how the image generator was trained.
I get sad when I'm just a little shy of what I need fabric wise too 🥲. But the top looked fabulous with all the ruffles and gathers. Loved the red hair by the way! I was thinking about doing the same with my hair. With your arm bands, would you hand wash those or dry clean them?
Thank you! I hand wash everything for this costume 😊