Better Green Screen Tips!
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- Today we revisit the topic of green screening with some new tips and tricks.
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3 Years later and I still reference this video for fixing noise in my key. Thanks Ryan
FINALLY! I never knew how to get rid of the nasty noise you get when you key your footage. Ryan, you're the best.
It's actually better to put a green solid over the shadows to act as a garbage mat rather than rotoing the subject because if the key doesn't go perfectly you will still have a balanced look.
Film Riot -- Can you please do a quick tips on folding the green screen?
The alpha matte trick was genious!! Can't believe I haven't come up with it myself! Thanks Film Riot!
This video came out over three years ago, but it's STILL HELPING ME!! Thank you!!
Really great succinct tutorial on green screen. There are a bunch of them on RUclips but this is the best to the point, this is what you need to know with examples added too.
I don't comment much, but been watching your channel for awhile now and learned a lot! Making quality cinematic content is a goal I keep working on with almost all my videos. I just wanted to say thank you so much for all the awesome tips and excellent short films!
That matte tip for reducing the grain in the keyed out video is just remarkable 😱😱
Great Green Screen tut from Ryan Connoly and the Film Riot crew! So simple yet so mindblowin.
Alpha matte... I am kicking myself for not thinking of that. Awesome tips! Thanks Film Riot.
Applying Alpha on the second layer was a MASSIVE workaround. Now KeyLight is definitely USABLE.
Thanks a lot for the tip! Love you guys. I'm a Full Sail Alumini(2008) by the way. Film Riot
5 month journey of watching all of your videos and I am proud to say I am finished. keep em coming RyGuy.
When I got my flex green screen I could not fold it at all and I was so frustrated, but after a few RUclips tutorials and about a week of failure I finally got it!
hey i watched your latest video and its cool, you're pretty talented for your age
Great episode. One thing you didn't mention when talking about green vs blue screen is that due to the Bayer pattern. The color green is sampled twice as much as red and blue so you have more color information to work with for the green channel.
That was mentioned right t the beginning when he explained why green is used over the color blue.
Thanks for this! Never thought about using 2 layers to get rid of the grain. Looks much better now. I'll use this for my next music video.
That alpha matte trick blew my mind! Stark's a genius.
do you know how to do it on fcp x?
I can't believe no-one has ever told me/I never figured out that alpha matte technique! That is gold!
NICE!!! Just started my first green screen, a few days ago...thanks for your help in moving along!!!
Oh man, I still have *so much to learn...*
Working on a project for work, and that Alpha Matte trick was the bees knees! Thanks guys! :)
Thanks so much for this episode, especially the tip of adding the second duplicate layer info. I had been struggling with the artifacting on my subject for a while. I used your tips and HOO BOY! my keyed footage now looks really good. I can sleep well tonight.
That little trick with the alpha matte might just change my life!
Also if you have noise in your green screen try switching the key light to hard color instead of soft color. That usually works for me and it keeps the key light properties (color spill, edge settings, etc.) in one easy to use place.
Just an FYI: for getting as tight a green screen as possible I use the "green screener" app from Hollywood Camera Work on my smart phone. It turns my phone into a green screening wizard and uses the live camera input to indicate where the hotspots and and cool spots are. I was able to get the best and most even results I'd ever obtained using this app. Made keying in Vegas a breeze. Highly recommended.
I am happy to hear you have a Creative Guerilla Film Making class. That is exactly what I need instead of the local community college film course. My wife bought me a Canon Rebel T3i this past spring so that I can start learning to film. Eventually find a few people that can pass for acting and build from there. This is the best RUclips channel ever created. When I first saw you guys it was 2010 and since that day forward I consumed film making knowledge. Without your channel I don't know if I would have ever thought it was possible.
the matte technique really blew my mind! it's soooooooooo helpful, awesome!
Noise is something I am trying to work out of my videos. Thanks for the video. Now to find your earlier one on noise you mentioned
At the end my eyes darted back and forth from the video to the playhead, waiting anxiously to see Josh fold that thing like a pro. All I gotta say is PROVE IT! :)
this is my lucky day! Film rot replied to my comment on fb! and here i got to know what i was doing wrong! thanks film riot! u r the boss!
My favorite channel to come to for film questions!
You have "Intermediante Result" on KeyLight.. You don't need to duplicate the layer to make a Alpha matte... Put it in Intermediante Result, and use a Spill Supressor plugin, After Effects CC 2014 already have one, Same result, one layer... ;)
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Wow, I couldn't their method to work but using Intermediate Result did the trick! Much easier method, THANK YOU!
Dude! Setting an alpha matte is genius! Will def be using this in the future! Thank you so much!
The best video i found after wasting a lot of time on random videos. !
Much Thanks!!!
Thanks for another one, Ryan! That one help ALOT better than the other one.
This channel is amazing. Thank you! In this one video you addressed every single issue we've had while playing with a green screen! :)
Our noise was in the hair. Fun effect unless you've already been working for 5 hours on a single scene. He had a proper disco ball hair-do for a while :)
Love the show. Just a quick tip for you instead of using the Keylight layer as a matte if you just change the view setting in Keylight to intermediate result it will pull the green color and not do the spill corrections. Just a quick way to get the same results. Rock on dudes.
I have never fully understood about track mattes, luminance and all that stuff. So if you make a video on explaining them it
would be really helpful
The best green screen tips tutorial ever !!!!!! thanks guys !!!! You rock !
God, that Matte-Trick is so neat! Simple yet brilliant!
The TrackMat tip was the best thing evar! thanks a lot guys
Damn. This was a good video. Informative, polished and entertaining. Subbed.
The matte tip just blew my friggen mind.
I saw it as brand new episode and still watching it in 2020
Awesome tips! Thank you!
Great video! Coupla extra thoughts, with the disclaimer that I'm by no means a keying expert. However, I do have some experience with set lighting.
1) You said that we should use a shorter shutter speed, but also keep the ISO/ASA low. So we'll need to throw more light on the scene to get the same image (as the rest of our shots) since the camera will be taking in less light. Just something to be aware of when shooting. (Or opening the apeture more to compensate is also an option, but that has other side effects as well, or may not be possible if you were already shooting wide open anyhow.) Also, if you use a light meter, then you should be able to put in the new camera settings and light off the meter.
2) Make sure the green/blue screen is taught. It needs to be perfectly smooth. Even the slightest wrinkle can create small highlights and shadows that will be annoying to deal with in post. (If a wrinkle is far from the subject, you may be able to just garbage matte it out, though, as they showed in the video.)
3) Make sure the subject isn't standing too close to the green/blue screen. Since you're likely using different lights to light the subject and the screen, you don't want the lights for either to spill onto the other. Also, the light can bounce off the green screen onto the subject and create the slightest rim (kind of like a rim light - think of the green screen as a green-colored bounce and this will make sense). Since it's slight, it may not be visible when you're shooting unless you're really looking for it, but you'll see it in post as a fuzzy green rim around the subject. The farther your subject is from the green screen, the less this effect will be. (They don't need to be super far from the screen, really, but you definitely want at least a few feet / a couple meters.)
Caught some of the Creative Live - wonderful film-making intensive, certainly has everything one needs to know to get going on their film-making career.
This will be very helpful for my lego animations!
Josh is so happy with himself
An even easier way to get rid of the noise from the spill supression, is to just change the setting in Keylight under Screen Matte --> Replace Method to Hard light (rather than the default Soft Light). If there's still a bit left you can tint the replace color slightly green.
Just wanted to see if you had some new clever tip, that track matte to Alpha was a good tip.
thanks a ton Ryan. was in need of green screen tips.
It's preferred to use a blue screen when keying a night scene. Blue screens were used extensively in Zodiac for action that was predominantly set in the dark. Traditionally films often use a blue cast to simulate moonlight. Therefore a blue screen works with that. Not everyone does this of course, but it is quite common.
Still funny and applicable in 2019👍
Do you have an updated video on what are the best LED lights for green screen by chance?
I like to up the saturation of the footage before keying and using that shot as a matte for the same (ungraded) shot.
Vomit from my brain! The matte trick is awesome! You guys rock!
You guys are the best, hands down.
To get great footage when out shooting I use two of my iPhone Apps, Green Screener and Cine Meter. Hope this helps everyone including possibly the Film Riot People! Keep up the Awesome Work
There's a shortcut to remove the noise without creating an alpha matte layer. You can just go to the Keylight plug-in and switch the view mode to "Intermediate Result."
Perfect! Just started working with a greenscreen!
HOLY SHIT! That alpha matte trick is literaly a gift from god himself!!! And with god I mean you ofcourse mr ryan 'spielberg' connolly
Really appreciate you showing what you use and making a recommendation. I am primarily needing one for streaming(Removing my BG as I feel it takes up too much screen room) and I feel like this might be way over kill on size for my needs. Any recommendations for a smaller fit?
also blue is good as you work on B/W production as far as I get. I am planing to shot in B/W, is blue a right choice?
That makes my life so much easier, thank you
Film Riot No one shows how to pull good key for moving hair (female) because with all the strands etc can you cover this? I'm sure resolution is a big factor? If shot 4k, more detailed edging etc
Some excellent tips in this one
i needed this vid. thanks film riot!!!!!!
Super informative video! Thanks!
Ryan, you will do your next episode of Film Riot in black and white!
You don't need to use a duplicate of the keyed layer as a matte for the unkeyed layer, you just need to set the replace method in the screen matte settings to source, instead of soft matte (or whatever the default setting is). This way, you don't have to create a new comp just for the keyed layer.
Raiders of the Lost Ark reference at the end!
Trying to fold that was the bane of my existence!!! And just further proof that Josh, is a mutant!!!
Nice work arounds. Sux I missed your classes.
I’m just wondering to myself why I spent 100k in film school when I could of just watched this video. You are my favorite professor film riot .
Education should be free.
Your channel is pretty awesome man. simple and clear explanations. Subscribed by the way. Hoping more tutorials from you guys. :)
Great tips!
Why does the spill supressor effect is turned off? i didn't get this part..
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This is interesting but I have two questions:
Which camera did you use?
What recording format did you use? Full HD, 4K, internal recording or to an external capture device? 4:2:0 or 4:2:2?
This comes with such good timing, I am recreating the music video for Power by Kanye West in my film class
The most difficult part of chroma key: bend the Chroma...
Was that a "Buried" reference at the end, too?
Stellar vid! HUGE help!!! Gracias.
Best channel ever.
Having trouble with way too much spill after using the technique. I used the choker, spill suppressor, and hue/sat. It got a little better but too much green still in his hair. I traded one problem for another. Any other thoughts?
To light your green screen, would you use the 50w LED flood light instead? Thanks :-)
So freaking helpful man, keep up the good work!
You could also set Replace Method (under Screen Matte) from Soft Colour to Hard Colour instead of using the duplicate and alpha matte method. This will clean up that noise. This is assuming that your lighting was done well. If not, then the alpha matte method is the way to go.
Is the codec used important to green screening? AVCHD, RAW, Prores HQ.... Thanks for the video and for the answer.
Film Riot The matte technique: My mind = balloon! Very. thank. you. much. yes.
Can you guys do a tutorial on transformation like person to werewolf (or person to whatever) old school style! Also it'd be most helpful if you could show a full vfx transformation vs a vfx and practical hybrid one with a suit.
Great tips as always!
4:18 would you come up with next tutorial how to clean up the noise and harsh between inner subject and the edge of subject..
Excellent!
Hi!! In what other videos do you talk about how to edit the chroma key with after effects?? Thank you!!
That damn green/blue screen! Had the same issue, 15min plus to wrap it up. Great video as always!
ryan you fordced me to watch the "Santa and the Angry Elf" again one more time haahahah
You should put a green filter in front of those LED lights to get a much cleaner key. Better still use a Kino Flo with green lights(expensive though) or a normal Kino Flo with Cool lights and a green filter. Also the actor should stand at least 6 feet from the green screen.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT MATTE KEY TIP!!! You are the greatest!!! :)
You are a life saver!