I was at their concert, it was my first concert, the sound is exactly the same as on the recording. Moreover, he often just growls without a microphone and it is still audible, he has an incredibly strong voice
on the live version of this song at Ikarceration tour he had the crowd go quiet and he projected loud enough you could hear him clearly at the back of the stadium
@@PeterBarberNow you have to find the video where Ronnie pulls Alex Terrible on stage to do the breakdown in Watch the World Burn. Transformed that shit completely.
"Does a deathcore ballad exist?" Sir, I am please to introduce you to "Pain Remains 1; Dancing Like Flames" from Lorna Shore. I am VERY interested to see your reaction to that masterpiece. (yes, i feel that word is overused but I personally feel it is spot on for that song)
@PeterBarber one of the voice coaches who analyzed this thought maybe that growl used his uvula as well as the folds to make this sound this way. He's just a demon straight from the gates of hell
@@PeterBarber yes you need, it's even better and far away more impressive than the studio version .... and he did it sit on his gaming chaire lol that's too creazy
If you want a great non post produced song by him, he does a live vocal playthrough of this same song. Its just him, sitting at his computer desk with a mic. He does have music for it, but theres no doubling, delay or reverb on it his vocals. Its absolutely insane. And you can tell hes actually singing in it!! Also, hoping your gonna do a Dimash reaction with your soprano friend!!
Actually, Alex used ONLY reverb on the one-take. You can hear it during his warm-up where he gargles room-temp water. He's on record that the reverb and the delay (on the recording) are just to make the sound a little wider, and the pan they put on his gutturals is so the guitar and drums aren't stepping on his vocals. He's very smart and knows a good bit about how they do stuff.
Actually the double bass pedals have one per foot and when you press down on it only hits it one single time per kick pedal. He uses this heel toe rocker technique that he hits down with heel first and then goes for second hit with his toe.
I saw Alex live, he has so much power that in the shows he tells people to be quiet and then he screams into the room without a microphone and you can still hear him at 50 meters lol
10:50 The guy from Lorna Shore, Will Ramos, did a reaction and analysis of this song on his channel (The Will Ramos) that I'd highly recommend you check out if you wanna learn how Alex does this stuff. He explained that the technique used in this part is kinda like rolling your Rs, while also doing the growl stuff. Of course, he does a much better job of explaining, but that's the gist of it.
Yeah, he needs to check out @TheWillRamos and @LornaShore. Also check out @TheCharismaticVoice taking Will to Utah Center of Vocology to check out what his vocal cords do with a camera down his throat while doing harsh vocals.
Alex also later stated on Kardavox (I think) that it's a back-of-the-throat 'Russian' R that he's doing, and he relaxes the roll halfway into the growl so it goes 'down'. It's how you get that DIRTY chest guttural. I've been practicing to try and figure it out and gotten it ONCE, but it's VERY difficult if you can't do a roll easily (which I suck at).
The chortle is actually just rolling the tongue while doing low scream/harsh vocal, the sound after is a transition to guttural scream. The way he does it is nuts, its very hard to do
Also, the low sounding pitch is usually done with overtones, the way you position the tongue and jaw are vital for a good demonic sounding guttural scream
@@gamedevbrownbus2871 intrestingly enough, you use the same posture as you would for an operatic tone. to get a tone similar to alex terrible, you just do a gutteral scream operaticly, plus moving your tongue back for the lowest notes.
If I'm remembering correctly, Alex said it's a 'Russian R', and he does it in the throat, which is the other way you can roll an 'r'. Just relaxes the roll and lets it ride down into his chest for the guttural. I'd say you're 90% right. Just got the position of the roll wrong. He said in a Tik Tok he got the idea from going to an alligator zoo. XD
The video where he got to 'play with a bear', yes. Turns out the bear was TERRIFIED of him, and he had to calm the poor thing down. 'Great guy Alex' despite him hating that chant. XD
*Big* screams. Glad you are getting into this! I hope our understanding will continue to grow for harsh vocals and other understudied vocal techs like subs in the future.
He has a cover of a russian song on his channel, with no screams. Just clean singing. He has a very powerful deep singing voice. Also very fun to watch you reacting. Very symphatetic.
It has been suggested on Elizabeth's channel and I am 100% for it - it is time for a collab between a trained opera singer and a screamer. In fact, seeing this, how about you, Elizabeth, Will Ramos and Alex Terrible. It would blow so many minds. Totally realise it will 'only' appeal to the metalheads because 'regulars' will just be terrified, but hey, can't win them all!
Great analysis Peter, really. If you are interested in "trying to hear his voice", I recommend (belated because of the holidays): ALEX TERRIBLE - Mariah Carey - All I Want for Christmas 🤣🤣🤣 Marry Christmas!! Regards
Literally every single singer, coach, reacter, even metal singers have the same reaction to that alligator-rolling R sound he makes. *System overloads, no idea what he's doing*
That gator growl is his signature growl. There are videos comparing side by side a real gator and Alex Terrible and the only difference is: the human is doing it better lol. This band sounds that awesome because their precise cohesiveness and most of all, for the instrumental arrangements don't overlap or outshine the vocals and vice versa. Often the lyrics are in Russian and English in the same song. If you want to see the Gator Man's one take vocal performance for Viking, there's a video on his channel. You won't be disappointed in the slightest. One of the most anticipated moments at their concerts, is when Alex growls the breakdowns without a mic. Again, a ton of videos on YT shows that and it's absolutely amazing how that dude can be heard across the venue. Glad you discovered these Russian chads. If I could recommend any of their songs, I'd say: all of them. Side note. You'd be amazed by this: he's a self taught death core vocalist. It took him 12+ years to perfect his craft and I could say the intensive gym and boxing training also helped.
Baba Yaga is an awesome song and a really good example of his vocal range. There is actually a video on Alex's RUclips channel where it is just him at his desk. This is a sample of him just doing the gutterals ruclips.net/video/b0ROx7kkyVM/видео.htmlsi=wdwnU6PzxfQjGPjj
part of that roar sound is coming from how he's opening up. a raised soft palette, the base of the tongue relaxed and lowered in the back of the mouth, and I think he's including part of the overtone series off the hard palette while somehow having the nasal passage open
Please react to his single take version of this. He sings it at his home streaming setup, like yours. He actually makes all those sounds, and it is remarkable. Talent is undeniable.
His gator growl is so amazing and I’m surprised nobody thought to do it before. He’s basically rolling his tongue while doing a low metal growl and it sounds just like a gator or crocodile
There are clips of Alex doing son ridiculous sheet. One is him just sitting in front of his computer just bellowing out an insane grow progression. Another is him with no microphone live projecting his voice over the band an crowd. He also did a cover of Barbie Girl b6 Aqua some years back. It's so fun seeing a pop song re imagined into hard core and ya can just tell that they had a blast making the video
A big portion of where the roar sound comes from is mostly mouth positioning amd tounge placement. It usually requires a larger amount of diaphramic pressure the get the texture to the sound.
First time watching and subbed! I've seen them live before and saw them when they played this song for the first time. Other than the layered vocals he nails it live, between the volume, enunciation, and cleanliness of his vocals. Nice reaction btw 🤘
The drummer is not only using a double kick, he also is using a heel-toe technique that further increases the rate at which you can hit the base drum. It's a very difficult technique but super cool once you can do it well.
Per personal experience, Alex can be heard false-fold roaring over the music at the back of a 400-500 person packed venue with NO MIC. At Hangar 1819 Greensboro NC 4-29-2023. They played the 28th and 29th, both shows selling out hours after going live (28th 2 hours, 29th 12 hours).
Great reaction! Love seeing people's first experience with deathcore lol. While I'm not sure Alex has specifically talked about how he does those gator vocals at 10:50, general consensus of what I've seen and have personally speculated is that he is rolling his tongue similarly to rolling your r's while growling. You're also in luck with you wanting to hear his clean singing since he recently uploaded a vocal cover of Cemetery Gates by Pantera. Also as a deathcore fan I'm obliged to mention that you should check out Will Ramos from Lorna Shore, especially his one take vocal playthroughs that he uploads. Personally I would recommend either the Into The Earth or Of The Abyss playthroughs. Absolutely mind blowing!
He has a few short videos doing the guttural sound on his instagram, going from a normal voice, lowering then adding the rolling part. Very interesting to hear, but might help you understand how he does it 🤷🏻♂️ Love these reactions too!
Wow. Just wow. Incredible. Pure depths of hell death metal awesomeness. Not familiar with this music myself but wow. Thanks for the analysis that you did do and hang in there Peter. Stay safe and stay awesome. 🙃✌️
An upload Alex did that would give a pretty solid idea of his raw vocals is the 6yo vid titled "Alex Terrible practices clean vocals". Its just him in his room screaming along to Tony Danza.
immortal disfigurment has a song called king he does a deep vocal so raw and rough i call it crocodile vocals, it looks almost his vocals tapping each other so hard and clean that is so weird never hear it before so strong like slaughter to prevail
Bro, i appreciate this type of reactions where a professional can breakdown and talk about some stuff he competent in, not just smiling in a cam. Thanks for it, keep it on! And for Alex's clean (at least not guttural) vocals, you can chek this video: ALEX TERRIBLE - KATYUSHA. Also, you can chek shorts with him recorded on a phone, without any enginering. btw, you right, russian part of lyrics sounds really clear and understandable for native speakers
YES! A Alex interview would be cool. I learned a little Russian working at a Cirque type show called Balagon, and yes he is pronouncing his words very well.
He flutters his tongue behind his top teeth while doing the false fold growl. Lots of practice. He did a video on tiktok showing how he does it. His voice is just a powerful and deep in live settings. Its nuts.
Love watching the faces you made through this. 😂 not something I would normally listen to but hearing your analysis was interesting. Just sounds like weird screaming to me, cool to realize it’s not just screaming.
Since most of the scenes here are from his actual performances live, when you see him without a mic, he is actually singing live without it, which is quite cool. Also he's done a live take of this song on his channel, you should check that one out, too if you wanna hear it raw.
Literally went to the show last night. Apr 26 in LA. Kublai Kahn was the opener it was a wild time 🤘 Edit: The alligator purr is a tongue trill paired with his gnarly gutteral. Also, Will Ramos of Lorna Shore hand a camera put up his nose to show all of the crazyness in the throat. Maybe a fun video to chop up.
Evgeny Novikov is truly one of the best drummers in the world. All these guys are super nice and laid back. Had a backstage pass when they performed this for the first time live. He growled at my daughter and I could FEEL it in my chest. No mic just raw vocal power.
The guttural rolling sound he does near the beginning of the song is just his normal growl with rolling his tongue. The manipulation of sounds in metal vocals is pretty much the same as regular clean vocals, its shifting the sound around with your throat and mouth (pause). Gutturals usually are lower resonance with a slightly more closed mouth and a curled tongue to really reverberate the sound inside the mouth before it actually escapes the lippies Love your insight as a clean vocalist and your speaking voice is butter. Keep up the good tings Peter
I wasn’t familiar with them until I went to a FIR concert this summer and was in awe of his vocal ability. The band was incredible as well. If I recall he did this opening without a mic and you could hear him fine. You may enjoy the cameo he made with Ronnie on watch the world burn where they scream together.
Also I really suggest you check out the charismatic voice she got will Ramos to be scoped and was absolutely astonished and what he was doing with his vocal folds
I loved this reaction. As a metalhead, it's always super cool to see people outside of the metal scene react and give their takes on the stuff I listen to, and you being an opera singer made it super cool to listen to you trying to figure out how Alex does his insane lows. I'll also suggest, as many others have, that you check out at least Pain Remains I by Lorna Shore, but the entire Pain Remains trilogy is amazing. Also, on the topic of "how does he do that" or like, "what's going on in his throat," The Charismatic Voice has a video on her channel putting a camera down the throat of Will Ramos, another big name in the deathcore scene right now. Super cool video to see what's possibly happening with the false folds and stuff during these crazy harsh vocals.
He does acoustic versions on his youtube channel just sitting in his house at his computer! Also their song Baba Yaga has a "cleaner" singing section I would check that one out its also the song he wrestles the bear in!
went to see them last year, ive been to over 120 metal shows, it was easily in the top 5 the best way I can describe the gutteral to you as a part time for fun vocalist, is that its like making a dog bark. if you breath out like you are trying to fog a window to clean it, add some constriction and distortion with the throat and tongue shapes to alter the pitches between low and mid low
As an avid deathcore listener I love slaughter to prevail actually last night I put on their music with my phone and fell asleep to it kinda like what people do with whitenoise and you mentioned a deathcore ballad go listen to the pain remains trilogy from Lorna Shore, Will Ramos is their vocalist he is insanely good
Gutturals are done by the tunnel throat method. You arrange your anatomy so that everything is in position over your throat and then you open your throat. It's different on an internal than an external but you can actually slowly tilt your chin down or up to change the depth of the sound. On an internal you can also staccato your breath to change the resonance. If you look at the angle of Alex head and watch the movement as he performs the "roar" it gives some indications of how he achieves it but everyone has different physiology. How you move your tongue, even subtle shifts of it can create very different sounds, a lot like throat singing in that regard.
Check out "The Will Ramos" reaction to this to understand how he does it. He rattles the soft palet. It is amazing! Loved watching your facial expressions! I love listening to Alex. He is a freak of nature!
I think on instagram he posts a vid of how he does it. Growl while rolling r kinda thing with his tongue. He breaks it down. Like 20 sec vid. Alex is badass
As crazy as it sounds a lot of the sounds you have trouble understanding the mechanics of are created by shaping the mouth and vocal tract, but he has a mastery of understanding of what shape to make his mouth do get these crazy effects that only a handful of people in the world have
As others have said, a Deathcore ballad does indeed exist! Lorna Shore's song Pain Remains 1, 2 & 3 is actually one lengthy song that flows into one another. There is a supercut on youtube combining all 3 seamlessly with lyrics. I've listened to it like a 100 times by now and it makes me cry every time, without fail
I saw them his last November and they are the same live as on this video. Better because it’s live. And his vocals do sound the same it is unbelievable. You are right the drummers in this genre are the best to me and watching him play these drums live is equally as impressive as the vocals! Great reaction my dude. PS check out the one take performances (To the Hellfire or Of the Abyss) that Will Ramos of Lorna Shore does. If you think this blows your mind your in for it with those 😂.
I was at their concert, it was my first concert, the sound is exactly the same as on the recording. Moreover, he often just growls without a microphone and it is still audible, he has an incredibly strong voice
Yeah he is insane live!!!
Dude's projection is amazing! Out of this world
Epic!
on the live version of this song at Ikarceration tour he had the crowd go quiet and he projected loud enough you could hear him clearly at the back of the stadium
@@PeterBarberNow you have to find the video where Ronnie pulls Alex Terrible on stage to do the breakdown in Watch the World Burn. Transformed that shit completely.
"Does a deathcore ballad exist?"
Sir, I am please to introduce you to "Pain Remains 1; Dancing Like Flames" from Lorna Shore.
I am VERY interested to see your reaction to that masterpiece. (yes, i feel that word is overused but I personally feel it is spot on for that song)
Should really do the whole trilogy for effect. It's long, but it's really a whole song put together, and each part hits hard in different ways.
Absolutely! I cry just about every time.
There is a video floating around of all 3 stitched together, music video with lyrics in the video. That's the best experience if you can find it!
I was about to metion this one!
@@Carnage0708my favorite version
He has a live vocal track of this song & it’s insane!!!!
I agree, it`s crazy!
I need to check that out
@@PeterBarber Do a review on that ,one take live vocals please. it blew me away.
@@PeterBarber did you cheked that? ) What is your oppinion about his live range of voice?
@@PeterBarberdid you watch the one take?
The alligator growl is one of the sickest noises I have ever heard out of a human! Alex is awesome! ;)
he's a beast!
@@PeterBarber He is, in a good way! ;)
@PeterBarber one of the voice coaches who analyzed this thought maybe that growl used his uvula as well as the folds to make this sound this way. He's just a demon straight from the gates of hell
@@PeterBarber yes you need, it's even better and far away more impressive than the studio version .... and he did it sit on his gaming chaire lol that's too creazy
@@PeterBarber its him rolling his r or l sound basically like in Spanish
If you want a great non post produced song by him, he does a live vocal playthrough of this same song. Its just him, sitting at his computer desk with a mic. He does have music for it, but theres no doubling, delay or reverb on it his vocals. Its absolutely insane. And you can tell hes actually singing in it!! Also, hoping your gonna do a Dimash reaction with your soprano friend!!
Exactly what I was going to say 😅
Was just gonna suggest this :P he could either go with this or Bonebreaker Live in Moscow
Actually, Alex used ONLY reverb on the one-take. You can hear it during his warm-up where he gargles room-temp water. He's on record that the reverb and the delay (on the recording) are just to make the sound a little wider, and the pan they put on his gutturals is so the guitar and drums aren't stepping on his vocals. He's very smart and knows a good bit about how they do stuff.
SO COOL
@@PeterBarberif you would like to hear other type? of his voice,listen to new song "Behelit". You can hear Alex on another level
Actually the double bass pedals have one per foot and when you press down on it only hits it one single time per kick pedal. He uses this heel toe rocker technique that he hits down with heel first and then goes for second hit with his toe.
I saw Alex live, he has so much power that in the shows he tells people to be quiet and then he screams into the room without a microphone and you can still hear him at 50 meters lol
10:50 The guy from Lorna Shore, Will Ramos, did a reaction and analysis of this song on his channel (The Will Ramos) that I'd highly recommend you check out if you wanna learn how Alex does this stuff. He explained that the technique used in this part is kinda like rolling your Rs, while also doing the growl stuff. Of course, he does a much better job of explaining, but that's the gist of it.
Wills reaction was awesome. Kardavox Academy has a lot of good reactions/breakdowns
Yeah, he needs to check out @TheWillRamos and @LornaShore. Also check out @TheCharismaticVoice taking Will to Utah Center of Vocology to check out what his vocal cords do with a camera down his throat while doing harsh vocals.
Alex also later stated on Kardavox (I think) that it's a back-of-the-throat 'Russian' R that he's doing, and he relaxes the roll halfway into the growl so it goes 'down'. It's how you get that DIRTY chest guttural. I've been practicing to try and figure it out and gotten it ONCE, but it's VERY difficult if you can't do a roll easily (which I suck at).
Will is coming to my opera performance tomorrow night and I'll get to meet him after -- so excited and I'll check out his analysis!
That's awesome. Hope the performance goes well!
I admire your diplomacy & curiosity about the singer's technique.
It's fascinating!
"I've never heard that sound come out of a human" basically explains modern deathcore
He does a clean vocal performance of Cemetery Gates by Pantera. He has a You Tube channel with lots of live takes in a home studio.
Oh yeah, that one's awesome.
I really like the Bonebreaker live in Moscow vid. I think it feels more kinda organic when he's on stage
The chortle is actually just rolling the tongue while doing low scream/harsh vocal, the sound after is a transition to guttural scream. The way he does it is nuts, its very hard to do
Also, the low sounding pitch is usually done with overtones, the way you position the tongue and jaw are vital for a good demonic sounding guttural scream
@@gamedevbrownbus2871 intrestingly enough, you use the same posture as you would for an operatic tone. to get a tone similar to alex terrible, you just do a gutteral scream operaticly, plus moving your tongue back for the lowest notes.
If I'm remembering correctly, Alex said it's a 'Russian R', and he does it in the throat, which is the other way you can roll an 'r'. Just relaxes the roll and lets it ride down into his chest for the guttural. I'd say you're 90% right. Just got the position of the roll wrong. He said in a Tik Tok he got the idea from going to an alligator zoo. XD
He makes the Alligator growl while false-folding low while rolling an "R"
he literally has a video of him doing vocal covers in his studio n this man’s growls and voice have no added effects it’s all him 🔥🔥
Their song Baba Yaga has a tad more clean lines. And it’s also the “bear wrestling” video!
The video where he got to 'play with a bear', yes. Turns out the bear was TERRIFIED of him, and he had to calm the poor thing down. 'Great guy Alex' despite him hating that chant. XD
The power of his voice frightens and fascinates at the same time)It will help you wake up better than a cup of coffee in the morning)
Man, you need to hear some live stuff. Check out Bonebreaker live in Moscow, or his one take performance of Viking
He has a live one-take that'll blow your goddamn mind
*Big* screams. Glad you are getting into this! I hope our understanding will continue to grow for harsh vocals and other understudied vocal techs like subs in the future.
He has a cover of a russian song on his channel, with no screams. Just clean singing. He has a very powerful deep singing voice. Also very fun to watch you reacting. Very symphatetic.
Ya now it's time for you too react to "To The Hellfire" by Lorna Shore for some inhuman noises
Came here to say the same. The One Take Vocal Playthrough version.
This is crazy!! I wonder how his speaking voice sounds. He's probably the nicest guy lol dang! 😮😮
Check out the singer's RUclips channel (@AlexTerrible)! He chats on there all the time.
There’s a one take performance of him sitting at his computer doing this song. It’s unreal.
I'm not alone in saying the one-take might be even better, too.
It has been suggested on Elizabeth's channel and I am 100% for it - it is time for a collab between a trained opera singer and a screamer. In fact, seeing this, how about you, Elizabeth, Will Ramos and Alex Terrible. It would blow so many minds. Totally realise it will 'only' appeal to the metalheads because 'regulars' will just be terrified, but hey, can't win them all!
That'd be one hell of a collab
@@PeterBarber Up to happend that soon!
Omg there is something for you:
Check out Alex Terrible "Viking" ONE TAKE.
HE DOES IT AT HIS DESK
There shows are amazing and the energy is insane
I was at the show they debuted this song In Tampa! Most of us are in the video. The crowd was so lit.😎👏🏼
Great analysis Peter, really.
If you are interested in "trying to hear his voice", I recommend (belated because of the holidays):
ALEX TERRIBLE - Mariah Carey - All I Want for Christmas 🤣🤣🤣 Marry Christmas!!
Regards
Literally every single singer, coach, reacter, even metal singers have the same reaction to that alligator-rolling R sound he makes. *System overloads, no idea what he's doing*
You need to see the one vocal take of this, its amazing what he can do with his voice!
That gator growl is his signature growl. There are videos comparing side by side a real gator and Alex Terrible and the only difference is: the human is doing it better lol.
This band sounds that awesome because their precise cohesiveness and most of all, for the instrumental arrangements don't overlap or outshine the vocals and vice versa.
Often the lyrics are in Russian and English in the same song.
If you want to see the Gator Man's one take vocal performance for Viking, there's a video on his channel. You won't be disappointed in the slightest.
One of the most anticipated moments at their concerts, is when Alex growls the breakdowns without a mic. Again, a ton of videos on YT shows that and it's absolutely amazing how that dude can be heard across the venue.
Glad you discovered these Russian chads. If I could recommend any of their songs, I'd say: all of them.
Side note. You'd be amazed by this: he's a self taught death core vocalist. It took him 12+ years to perfect his craft and I could say the intensive gym and boxing training also helped.
Baba Yaga is an awesome song and a really good example of his vocal range. There is actually a video on Alex's RUclips channel where it is just him at his desk. This is a sample of him just doing the gutterals ruclips.net/video/b0ROx7kkyVM/видео.htmlsi=wdwnU6PzxfQjGPjj
part of that roar sound is coming from how he's opening up. a raised soft palette, the base of the tongue relaxed and lowered in the back of the mouth, and I think he's including part of the overtone series off the hard palette while somehow having the nasal passage open
Please react to his single take version of this. He sings it at his home streaming setup, like yours. He actually makes all those sounds, and it is remarkable. Talent is undeniable.
11:12 "I've never heard a sound like that come out of a human." Ladies and gentlemen, Alex The Terrible!
re 18:00
a deathcore ballad absolutely exists; Lorna Shore's Pain Remains trilogy. different singer but still a deathcore ballad
Fellow Peter here. Welcome to HELL Brother!
🔥🤘😈🤘🔥
Also...sounds Almost Exactly the same acoustically fyi
Happy to be here in hell with you all 🤘🏼
His whole channel he does lots of covers and originals and what not. Dude is all over the place. Hes definitely uniquely his. I really enjoy him.
Love to hear you do more on this genre!! There’s so many vocal techniques you can benefit from ☺️😇
His gator growl is so amazing and I’m surprised nobody thought to do it before. He’s basically rolling his tongue while doing a low metal growl and it sounds just like a gator or crocodile
There are clips of Alex doing son ridiculous sheet. One is him just sitting in front of his computer just bellowing out an insane grow progression. Another is him with no microphone live projecting his voice over the band an crowd. He also did a cover of Barbie Girl b6 Aqua some years back. It's so fun seeing a pop song re imagined into hard core and ya can just tell that they had a blast making the video
A big portion of where the roar sound comes from is mostly mouth positioning amd tounge placement. It usually requires a larger amount of diaphramic pressure the get the texture to the sound.
Saw them live yesterday....it was fire!
First time watching and subbed! I've seen them live before and saw them when they played this song for the first time. Other than the layered vocals he nails it live, between the volume, enunciation, and cleanliness of his vocals. Nice reaction btw 🤘
The drummer is not only using a double kick, he also is using a heel-toe technique that further increases the rate at which you can hit the base drum. It's a very difficult technique but super cool once you can do it well.
His vocal one take is out there too. And it sounds just like this! The dude is crazy good
Per personal experience, Alex can be heard false-fold roaring over the music at the back of a 400-500 person packed venue with NO MIC.
At Hangar 1819 Greensboro NC 4-29-2023. They played the 28th and 29th, both shows selling out hours after going live (28th 2 hours, 29th 12 hours).
Great reaction! Love seeing people's first experience with deathcore lol. While I'm not sure Alex has specifically talked about how he does those gator vocals at 10:50, general consensus of what I've seen and have personally speculated is that he is rolling his tongue similarly to rolling your r's while growling. You're also in luck with you wanting to hear his clean singing since he recently uploaded a vocal cover of Cemetery Gates by Pantera. Also as a deathcore fan I'm obliged to mention that you should check out Will Ramos from Lorna Shore, especially his one take vocal playthroughs that he uploads. Personally I would recommend either the Into The Earth or Of The Abyss playthroughs. Absolutely mind blowing!
He has a few short videos doing the guttural sound on his instagram, going from a normal voice, lowering then adding the rolling part. Very interesting to hear, but might help you understand how he does it 🤷🏻♂️ Love these reactions too!
Wow. Just wow. Incredible. Pure depths of hell death metal awesomeness. Not familiar with this music myself but wow. Thanks for the analysis that you did do and hang in there Peter. Stay safe and stay awesome. 🙃✌️
Yes you can hear the vocals layered at certain parts. They do that often in heavy music.
An upload Alex did that would give a pretty solid idea of his raw vocals is the 6yo vid titled "Alex Terrible practices clean vocals". Its just him in his room screaming along to Tony Danza.
immortal disfigurment has a song called king he does a deep vocal so raw and rough i call it crocodile vocals, it looks almost his vocals tapping each other so hard and clean that is so weird never hear it before so strong like slaughter to prevail
At close to 50, I can still nail this. It becomes part of you.
Bro, i appreciate this type of reactions where a professional can breakdown and talk about some stuff he competent in, not just smiling in a cam. Thanks for it, keep it on!
And for Alex's clean (at least not guttural) vocals, you can chek this video: ALEX TERRIBLE - KATYUSHA. Also, you can chek shorts with him recorded on a phone, without any enginering.
btw, you right, russian part of lyrics sounds really clear and understandable for native speakers
YES! A Alex interview would be cool. I learned a little Russian working at a Cirque type show called Balagon, and yes he is pronouncing his words very well.
He flutters his tongue behind his top teeth while doing the false fold growl. Lots of practice. He did a video on tiktok showing how he does it. His voice is just a powerful and deep in live settings. Its nuts.
Love watching the faces you made through this. 😂 not something I would normally listen to but hearing your analysis was interesting. Just sounds like weird screaming to me, cool to realize it’s not just screaming.
we need more Slaughter to Prevail
Since most of the scenes here are from his actual performances live, when you see him without a mic, he is actually singing live without it, which is quite cool. Also he's done a live take of this song on his channel, you should check that one out, too if you wanna hear it raw.
He has a one take of this exact song he did sitting in front of his computer. Highly recommended :]
There is a video of Alex doing this song solo in a one take shot and it is mind blowing!
Literally went to the show last night. Apr 26 in LA. Kublai Kahn was the opener it was a wild time 🤘
Edit: The alligator purr is a tongue trill paired with his gnarly gutteral. Also, Will Ramos of Lorna Shore hand a camera put up his nose to show all of the crazyness in the throat. Maybe a fun video to chop up.
Evgeny Novikov is truly one of the best drummers in the world. All these guys are super nice and laid back. Had a backstage pass when they performed this for the first time live. He growled at my daughter and I could FEEL it in my chest. No mic just raw vocal power.
A lot of the depth comes from the way he moves/folds his tongue in his mouth. Its quite fascinating how it works.
Definitely check out the one-take vocal performance he did in front of his computer! He's legit!
In the Chandelier cover he sang the intro clean.
There’s a video of him doing this song just in his office, and you realize how little he uses effects. Please check that out on his channel.
Definitely watch the one-take video he recorded at home just sitting in front of his computer.
Listen to anything by them live!!! He won't disappoint!!!
I've visited their's concert 6 days ago, it was cool expereince)
"world's deadliest red Rover" that was a wall of death, that's when the singer divides the room and when the drop comes, everyone attacks!
According to Will Ramos, the alligator growl that Alex does is created by him trilling/rolling the R while growing at the same time
Dude, at 19:19, that’s Corey Taylor the singer of slipknot in the Russian hat!!!!!!!!
Omg no wayyy
The guttural rolling sound he does near the beginning of the song is just his normal growl with rolling his tongue. The manipulation of sounds in metal vocals is pretty much the same as regular clean vocals, its shifting the sound around with your throat and mouth (pause). Gutturals usually are lower resonance with a slightly more closed mouth and a curled tongue to really reverberate the sound inside the mouth before it actually escapes the lippies
Love your insight as a clean vocalist and your speaking voice is butter. Keep up the good tings Peter
I wasn’t familiar with them until I went to a FIR concert this summer and was in awe of his vocal ability. The band was incredible as well. If I recall he did this opening without a mic and you could hear him fine. You may enjoy the cameo he made with Ronnie on watch the world burn where they scream together.
Deathcore ballad is "Lorna Shore - Pain Remans I, II, and III". Not to take away from Slaughter, just sayin' "a ballad".
There is a one take of him doing the vocals for this song and it's amazing
Also I really suggest you check out the charismatic voice she got will Ramos to be scoped and was absolutely astonished and what he was doing with his vocal folds
I loved this reaction. As a metalhead, it's always super cool to see people outside of the metal scene react and give their takes on the stuff I listen to, and you being an opera singer made it super cool to listen to you trying to figure out how Alex does his insane lows.
I'll also suggest, as many others have, that you check out at least Pain Remains I by Lorna Shore, but the entire Pain Remains trilogy is amazing.
Also, on the topic of "how does he do that" or like, "what's going on in his throat," The Charismatic Voice has a video on her channel putting a camera down the throat of Will Ramos, another big name in the deathcore scene right now. Super cool video to see what's possibly happening with the false folds and stuff during these crazy harsh vocals.
There’s actually a few clips on youtube of alex doing growls directly into his camera that you can check out.
Alex is insane live. He's such a sweetheart, too 😅
He does acoustic versions on his youtube channel just sitting in his house at his computer! Also their song Baba Yaga has a "cleaner" singing section I would check that one out its also the song he wrestles the bear in!
went to see them last year, ive been to over 120 metal shows, it was easily in the top 5
the best way I can describe the gutteral to you as a part time for fun vocalist, is that its like making a dog bark. if you breath out like you are trying to fog a window to clean it, add some constriction and distortion with the throat and tongue shapes to alter the pitches between low and mid low
I havent seen it but on the drou le the double bass is him using both legs on 2 pedals. Its pure technique.
As an avid deathcore listener I love slaughter to prevail actually last night I put on their music with my phone and fell asleep to it kinda like what people do with whitenoise and you mentioned a deathcore ballad go listen to the pain remains trilogy from Lorna Shore, Will Ramos is their vocalist he is insanely good
In the opening part when you asked specifically, there are definitely some layers for a bigger sound.
For metal orchestration I suggest listening to Ne Obluiviscaris. Their most popular song is Equus but my favorite is Misericorde II
Gutturals are done by the tunnel throat method. You arrange your anatomy so that everything is in position over your throat and then you open your throat. It's different on an internal than an external but you can actually slowly tilt your chin down or up to change the depth of the sound. On an internal you can also staccato your breath to change the resonance. If you look at the angle of Alex head and watch the movement as he performs the "roar" it gives some indications of how he achieves it but everyone has different physiology. How you move your tongue, even subtle shifts of it can create very different sounds, a lot like throat singing in that regard.
Yesssssss please!!!! Get him in there and interview him brother!! New sub and I'm in lol 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼 Slaughter and Lorna are my favorite groups!!
Check out "The Will Ramos" reaction to this to understand how he does it. He rattles the soft palet. It is amazing! Loved watching your facial expressions! I love listening to Alex. He is a freak of nature!
I think on instagram he posts a vid of how he does it. Growl while rolling r kinda thing with his tongue. He breaks it down. Like 20 sec vid. Alex is badass
As crazy as it sounds a lot of the sounds you have trouble understanding the mechanics of are created by shaping the mouth and vocal tract, but he has a mastery of understanding of what shape to make his mouth do get these crazy effects that only a handful of people in the world have
Saw them live, it sounds the same live alot of it doesn't need double tracks! His voice is one of a kind!!
He does a one take playthrough of this song. You have to check it out!
As others have said, a Deathcore ballad does indeed exist! Lorna Shore's song Pain Remains 1, 2 & 3 is actually one lengthy song that flows into one another. There is a supercut on youtube combining all 3 seamlessly with lyrics. I've listened to it like a 100 times by now and it makes me cry every time, without fail
I saw them his last November and they are the same live as on this video. Better because it’s live. And his vocals do sound the same it is unbelievable. You are right the drummers in this genre are the best to me and watching him play these drums live is equally as impressive as the vocals! Great reaction my dude. PS check out the one take performances (To the Hellfire or Of the Abyss) that Will Ramos of Lorna Shore does. If you think this blows your mind your in for it with those 😂.
The alligator growl is a tongue roll with just, y'know, an absurdly low inhuman demon-growl. As you do.
Gotta a sub from me for this one my dude!! He has all sorts live vocal one takes, covers. And things outside of a studio. Glad u checked them out! ❤
He makes that sound by rolling his tongue and screaming as brutal as he can. There are plenty of videos of him screaming acoustic out there as well