Yes it's definitely good on 3rd cousin's, my relative on my mom side took the dna ancestry test , and popped up as my third cousin so it's definitely accurate.
Great video. I did one on DNA as well. I had my RAW data uploaded to several sites. I like the MyHeritage webpage. However, rather than use the Flag current location they should use the Nationality instead. For example, Americans living in Bahrain show up as being from there.
Hi, I have two matches that present as 2nd cousins, I understand completely your explanation, but we cannot find a link between us. The two matches are also a 2nd cousin to each other. Can you offer any advice please as the best way to resolve this. We have been looking at this for months without any success. Thank you
My 3rd cousin found me threw our Great Great grandmother we both had same comon ancestor his great grandfather was my great uncle. His sister is my great aunt. But problem is my great great grandmother had such a big family with 11 brothers and sisters I have many great great uncles and aunts on just that side of the family. So I have many great cousin inlaws removed etc.
Is there something between a first and second cousin? Thomas and his only wife had 2 kids, Irene and Warren. Irene had a child, Arlene. Warren had a child, Laura. Arlene had a child Mary. Laura had a child, Chris. Arlene and Laura have one set of the same grandparents, so they are first cousins. What is the relationship between Chris and Mary? They do not share the same great grandparents, but they share one set of great grandparents. I think that means 2nd cousins. Then what is the relationship between Arlene and Chris? Arlene’s grandfather is Chris’s great grandfather. What is this called?
Very informative video. I have a 2nd-3rd cousin with 222cm across 10 segments and i have entered this information on the DNA painter and have some what narrowed it down. It also stated on there to look at the 3rd-Great Grand parent level. What does that mean? Could they possibly be a 3rd cousin too? The most challenging part is ascertaining the exact dna connection. hope to hear from you!!
DNA Painter can't give you definitive answers. It can only point you in a plausible direction. I would suggest doing DNA triangulation and genealogical record research of the DNA matches and your lines to see if they fall into the 2nd-3rd cousin category or a different location. But at least you have a general idea of where to start looking. Does that help?
Hi I love all your videos and find them so helpful. Just wondering if there is a place you could direct me too that shows the charts you are referring to with average number of segments as well as the cMs. Thanks :)
I have a suspected 4X great grandfather. When I look at DNA matches for myself and descendants of his three brothers, I have a total of 11 DNA matches with 9 to 29 cM among them. With that many matches and that amount of cM's have I proven that the man is actually my 4X great grandfather? Thanks!
what if you don't know you grand parent on your side of the familly and you don't know your own father but you mother was only parent growing you only know her side of the family
This is the same problem that adoptees have (only you have an extra generation). Matches can help find a common ancestor and then you have to do descendancy research to identify the possible immediate ancestors.
I share DNA with people that I was told growing up were very good family friends, but not blood related. I also share some DNA with my mom's cousins. I share no DNA with my Dad's side of the family... is that possible? My mom passed away, I am an only child and very confused about all this. Can you help me out?
Totally unrelated to this video, I saw one of your comments in another video that said you had a video on adopted relatives, what is the title of the video? My dad was adopted and has passed away so I don't have DNA for comparison, but from a DNA standpoint, isn't it the same as in the video where you traced back using a mother's DNA, and the non-matches would be from my father?
why do i share .77% DNA with 4th cousin but only .73 with 3rd cousin ? Wouldnt it be higher DNA % with shared 2nd Great - Grandparents than with 3rd Great ? Also it says half identical on chromosome #1 with this 4th cousin
I did my DNA test and said I was Russian,asian, Siberian plus some other stuff! Really shocking! Thanks for the great videos! You guys were the ones who inspired me to do it! Keep up the GREAT WORK!
3rd - 4th cousin? 1.0% (73.1 cM) Shared DNA 4 Shared segments 32.3 cM Largest segment WHAT THIS MEAN??.. AFTER MY DNA TEST I FOUND OUT I MATCH WITH A LADY WITH THE SAME LAST NAME OF MY FATHER'S FAMILY .... WITH THOSE RESULTS..
3rd-4th Cousin: This is an estimated range of relationship based on the amount of DNA you share with this lady. 1.0% (73.1 cM): This is the amount of DNA that you share. (ruclips.net/video/5VmgHOhG6io/видео.html for an explanation of centimorgans) 4 Shared Segments: The DNA that you share is divided into 4 separate segments. This is in the typical range for 3rd cousins. 32.3 cM Largest segment: This is the longest segment of the shared DNA. Having this large of a segment is a strong indicator that you are more likely to be a 3rd cousin than a 4th cousin. Overall, it means that you likely share a set of great great grandparents.
So my first cousin on my father's side married my husband's first cousin on his mother's side. What would be the relationship of our children? Would it make them second cousins or first cousins? Since our children share pairs of great-grandparents
Yes. That's what the first several search tools are fool. I thought I stated that in the video. Forgive me if I was unclear. I was really hoping to make that point come across.
For 33 years, I thought I knew what cousin meant. I was 100% wrong.. Example, for everyone who's reading my comment, let's say you and I are first cousins and you had a child, I thought your child was my second cousin. If you have grandchildren, I thought they would be my third cousins. I was completely wrong. Cousins share a common ancestor. My mother's first cousin is also my first cousin. I would be 1st cousin once removed. Any children I have would still be 1st cousins to my mother's 1st cousin but twice removed. But if my mother's 1st cousin has children, they would be my 2nd cousins and any children my 2nd cousins have because we share a common ancestor. Now that I know that after 33 years, it's so much harder for me to know who my third cousins and etc are because I have to know my great grandparents or even 2nd to 10th great grandparents are.. Does anyone have any suggestions for me on how I can know my ancestors whom I don't so I can locate my 3rd or 4th or so on cousins? I can use any suggestions at this point.
So 2nd to 4th is better than 5th and higher to find 2nd and 3rd or higher great grandparents specifically 2nd for me. Do you have printed handout charts?
Yes to the first part of the question. My colleagues at Legacy Tree Genealogists have a relationship chart that is handy. www.legacytree.com/dna-relationship-chart
It’s like trying to explain math to a worm. I have 7 paternal 4th cousins on the paternal side showing up and still can’t figure out who my biological father was.
Sorry you're so frustrated. However, perhaps the process should start over using the strategies taught in this series: ruclips.net/p/PLcVx-GSCjcdk1GsAs9NfLWKvACcjE3Afg While it's labeled as for adoptees, it's really for anyone with unknown parentage like yourself. Give it a go and let me know what further questions you have.
Yep. The range for 1c1r is 102-900 shared cM. Check out this follow-up video about that tool 5 Things To Know About DNA Painter Shared cM Tool ruclips.net/video/NZN2WceNI2A/видео.html
Hii, i have an question to ask ! My mother's side sister son and me in love, we are cousin's and idk we can marry or not? Furthermore, we are 3 yrs diffrent i m older thn him 3 yrs ! My mother is elder than his mother, our grand parents are sibling's ! His grandmother is older thn my grandmother...pls tell me should we can married? We are on confusion pls help our problem sir!!!
Hello, Very interesting thank you.. I am trying to find my fourth cousins. My father’s great grandfather’s brother’s great grandson. If we can take DNA or genetic test. Will it prove that he is my fourth cousin. And what is the exact name of the test and where can I take this test? Awaiting your reply
Plug those numbers into the Shared cM tool that I discussed in this video and that should give you some ideas. ruclips.net/video/NZN2WceNI2A/видео.html
Thank you so much for your efforts. I am just confused because I am a man and I was matched with a lady through FTDNA family finder and she was labeled as my 2nd-4th cousin, my question is should we trace our paternal lines or maternal lines because she obviously tested MTDNA not the big-y ? Could you kindly explain that to me? Thanks in advance.
I am happy I am getting this info from watching this video because I am desperate to find my cousin from my birth family side my biological cousins and I want to know my ashally family trust me I been thinking about this for awhile so I am happy I am watching this video
My closest match is a 3rd cousin. I have no way of contacting her. She hasn't been active on Ancestry for a year and does not answer my messages. I found her on facebook and no answer. I have no idea how we are related with one exception. I am searching for the father of my great grandmother and think this relationship could hold the the key. Does anyone have any strategies I could try? She is from the London area and all my relatives are from the North of England.
Sadly, it's possible that this person only took a DNA test to find out their ethnicity and doesn't want to be contacted. The next strategy is to attempt to do living person research. Here's an article that might be useful www.familytreemagazine.com/strategies/tracking-down-living-relatives/
Actually it would show up as a 1st cousin once removed (a half cousin). But the amount of overlap in shared DNA between 2nd cousins and half cousins is enough that unless you are on the extreme, they are indistinguishable.
Family History Fanatics ok so what if my 1st cousin is showing up as my 2nd-3rd cousin ...her and my mother are full sisters so how is this possible? We are for sure 1st cousins so why are we showing up this way? Ugh so confused
Ok I don't have any frist cousins because my aunt & uncle never had children but I do have cousin thru my great grandma children in they had children but my great grandma had 4 different baby Father so how much DNA do I share with my half cousins in to there children in what are to me 2nd 3rd because I am so confused with the whole cousin ish I don't have any first cousins with my grandmother's children like my immediate family.
Check out this information about half relatives. Then if you have more questions, ask there so I'll know what else to share www.familyhistoryfanatics.com/understand-half-relationships
Is it possible to find an unknown great grandfather's name through dna matches on our list of distant cousins. How far back do I need to go with cousins if they knew his name from there grandparents or parents and their children. I don't even know how to explain it on a public level I would want to ask in private more specifically to be comfortable asking. Thank you
A great-grandfather (rather than a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th) has a greater chance of being discovered if: 1. He has multiple lines of descent. 2. People from those multiple lines of descent have taken DNA tests and shared their results publically. 3. Someone has done genealogical record research to link the DNA to persons from the past. If those criteria have been made, it's possible to discover the great-grandfather.
I recently found someone who is my great grandfathers 4th cousin 2 times removed. How then would I be related to this person? Obviously we are cousins but I am new to this and haven't figured out relationships yet
Plug in the amount of cMs or percent of DNA shared into this tool. dnapainter.com/tools/sharedcmv4 It can help you visualize the potential relationships if you haven't build a family tree yet.
I have a new match on Ancestry a Second cousin - 4% shared DNA 291cM across 11 segments - seems like a close match I have no idea who this person is can you please give me some advise on where to start and what the likely relationship could be? Thanks
Great video, thank you ! I have a match of 126 cM across 8 segments (Ancestry) who is my 2nd Cousin 1x removed, I have similar match of 128 cM across 7 segments (Ancestry) can I look at the same relation as my first match seeing they are about the same cM's and segments ??
The relationship has a 48% chance of being a Half 2C, 2C1R, Half 1C2R, or 1C3R. There are even more possibilities so check out this website by entering in your cMs dnapainter.com/tools/sharedcmv4
Oh man... what a mess I have trying to figure out our families History. So my Mother in law was adopted out of France. We have a possible name for her bio mother but nothing else. No name for the father. DNA results only show my daughter as close related to her and all the rest are third cousins and further out. With no clue what side is father what side is mother..... I am at a loss and trying my best to narrow things down but boy is it frustrating. Any advice?
Those cousins won't always have the same last name because surnames can change or there are unexpected paternal events where the surnames don't line up.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics My great grandparents names are Hopgood Wood Brewster Archibald Wyllie Zaiser Meier Unless I have missed someone, I have all their children The parents of the dnamatch are Sheremeta & Morgan That would be very significant changes Is it more likely that the relationship is incorrect??
1st cousins share grandparents, 2nd cousins share great grandparents, 3rd cousins share great great grandparents. Colloquially, in the US when we say cousin we are talking about 1st cousins.
Family History Fanatics but if you have a great grandparent that’s 13 generations ago - their children are your first cousins 13 times removed - generations
I have a friend who was adopted recently did AncestryDNA she shares 1837cm with another girl we can not figure out if they are half sis or aunt niece relations...they both share a cousin for one the cousin is a 2nd cousin and the other girl he is a 4th cousin..does this mean they are not sisters because he would be a 2nd cousin to both right?
There are a few different scenarios that could be playing out. In order to resolve this you would need to look at a chromosome browser to see what (and how many) segments they share with each other and all together. Unfortunately Ancestry doesn't have one so all of the kits would need to be uploaded to GEDmatch in order to do this.
ok so what if my 1st cousin is showing up as my 2nd-3rd cousin ...her and my mother are full sisters so how is this possible? We are for sure 1st cousins so why are we showing up this way? Ugh so confused
Didfferent possibilities. 1) Your parents may not be full siblings. 2) You may be on the low end of overlap between 2nd cousins and 1st cousins in the amount of shared DNA.
I married a cousin his name was James wilkie he was related to my mum through a cousin of his Ted Firth aunty peg Firth had a son out of we'd lock to a great uncle of mine Henry withers
I LOVE the chart you pulled up at 4:14. Is that chart available anywhere online? Also I usually look at anyone who has 20 cM or more shared with me. I also need to ask about adoptions. I have one match at 100 cM labelled by the company as a 2nd to 4th cousin match, but he was adopted, and is from a closed state. He lives in the USA and I do not. He still doesnt have his original birth certificate. This is making it harder to work out how he is related to me except that I do know he is related on my mothers side, because he has several matches to other people from my mothers maternal family. Adoptions really do put a kink in these matches. Maybe you can do a video on that topic? Especially since the reason why many adoptees are doing DNA tests these days, is to find their biological families.
Here is a link drive.google.com/open?id=1jbmHQhA2c_CG0SIHWVH5Q4TV887gxAsC_HJAidgw5kA You can save a copy to your Google Drive. I use it and the one Riniculous mentions all the time.
101.1 shared cM 2 shared segments 62.9 longest block The match is 30 years older than me There are several matches within my generation, but none in the two generations above me (Self on the Shared cM chart at DNApainters). Do you have any suggestions?
I found 4th cousin on Ancestory she is half Korean (I’m full Korean) and half white, her mom is full Korean like me what relationship potentially would her mom be? 3rd or 2nd cousin? Or would a test be needed to determine the relationship?
4th cousin in Ancestry DNA terms is just a place holder showing how much DNA you share (less than 50 cM?). You would want to test her mom and any other family members (hers and yours) to help narrow down the exact relationship.
We are 27 cm’s but potentially what relationship would her mother be to me? Aunt or a closer related cousin? (Her mom won’t take a test 🙁) I just want to know “theoretically” what could/would be her relationship to me.
Biologically, no. DNA testing wise, yes, because you can only match with people who have also tested. If one set of your grandparents had ancestors who had few living descendants get a DNA test, then it is entirely possible to have grandparents with no matches that belong to them.
I’m wondering how my grandmothers(my mother’s mom) 2 sisters have shown up as my 2nd cousins and the daughters of those two sisters show as my second and third cousins... help please help me! Driving myself nuts trying to figure this out .
The rough category (2nd cousin) is a simple way of identifying a range of shared DNA that a match has. It will encompass 2nd cousins, but also some 3rd cousins (who share more than normal amounts of DNA) as well as some 1st cousins (who share less than normal amounts). A great aunt shares the same amount of DNA as a 1st cousin.
I wonder how the results would show up for half first cousins? I wonder if it shows up as second cousins. I have five half first cousins because my grandmother was married 5times. And had 4 children with different men. Sigh 😔
Half first cousins share more DNA than second cousins, so depending on where you fall on the scale it may be reported as 1st cousin (high) or 2nd cousins (low)
Probably a 3rd cousin. The difficulty is that this is a little more than average for a 3rd cousin (55cM) and much less than average for a 2nd cousin (220 cM). Of course it is right at the average for 2nd cousin Once removed. However, because of the cM overlap it could be anything between 2nd to 4th cousins. I know that is not helpful, but sometimes DNA is not too helpful.
Jewish is a religion. No one can be 100% a religion. Either you accept and/or practice the religion or you don't. Never hear anyone say they were 100% christian, Muslim, Rasta, Buddhist or Hindu.
several questions regarding 3rd and 4th cousin.. do all 3rd and 4th cousins share same surnames with each others or not??? do you think its strange with huge age gaps between myself and my 3rd cousin??? My 3rd cousin gentlemen is the guy that I get along well since my childhood much more than my close 1st cousins. we joked each other laughed a lot and we are like close brothers than distant cousins. At least 3rd and 4th cousins share less amount of DNA than myself with 1st and 2nd cousins at least. I just turned 34 years old first week in last month and he is 45 years old which makes it like huge age gap differences between two. does age gap between same generation cousins really matter????? My 3rd cousin Edward and his wife Jennifer have son named Liam. so Liam is my 3rd cousin once removed. right??? What about my relationship with Jennifer??? Is Jennifer My 3rd cousin in Law??? does the tem 3rd cousin in law really exist???? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 I just wanna make sure I understood how these long family tree works....
@Family History Fanatics. you got it right. number of 3rd cousin is lot more than number of 2nd cousin that majority of people have. so many of 3rd cousins have random surnames then while some does have my surname. I think you forgot to answer these questions.. is it ok to call My 3rd cousin's wife Jennifer as 3rd cousin in Law???? I don't know how to refer to my distant cousin's spouse..... plus My 3rd cousin Edward is almost dozen years older than me... does huge age gap really matter between distant cousin and myself??? still Edward is in the same generation that I am in. right???? make sure I understand it correctly to avoid the confusion between relationship with many many cousin's and cousin's once removed....
Be an angel pls & help me figure this out: I tested w/AncestryDNA. I have 6 matches on AncestryDNA; four (4-6cuz) and two (5-8cuz). All six of the matches lead me to the same fam; let's call the fam Klue. Background My PatGrandma MJ (b1892) was a mixed baby; given up by her moms' (Nel) fam; but as Nel got older; she was in touch with my MJ; even came w/Nel finacee & offered MJ an education. MJ already married w/one child; didn't want to leave her fam & pass in society. 4th half cuz (45cM) would be 4G-Gma to me right? five of my matches match each other at the GG-Gpadres -Florida Klue; and the other two matches enter through the grandchildren of Florida; but wouldn't I also come through those people? and wouldn't one of Florida's children be my Gma???
Wait everyone has 4 sets of great grandparents??? I have 8 as i have 4 grandparents. Am i seeing things wrong or was that a mistake? I'm pretty sure that everyone has 4 granparents & 8 great grandparents not 4.
4 sets (meaning 2) of great grandparents. So one set (mother & father) of great grandparents for each grandparent. Bringing the total to 8 great grandparents.
I signed with the ancestry.com and got my results a while ago. I was reaching out to fourth cousins assuming there may be might be a connection. What does a fourth cousin mean?
I share 52 cm with a fourth cousin and all our matches show last names like my grandmas last name. ( my moms mom) I’m trying to find out who her dad is since her mom is mostly white and the reason why were related is bc the indigenous blood 🩸
I’m black but have some white 4th cousins some share as high as 30 cms with many in the 20s based on that what does that mean on how far we shared a common ancestor a 4th great grandparent or closer?
Hi again, I have another third cousin who shares 4% DNA, 268cm arcoss 14 segments, where do we connect.. he was adopted and found out his father's name, on his documents which turns out is the same name as my great grandparent, but i cant figure out if it is my great grandfather, who is his father, or great grandfather's son. Thank you..he is really trying to figure this all out and I would just like to help him.
Hi, I have a third cousin, whom i share 1% with .she's 41cm, across 2 segments, unweighted shared DNA 67cm, longest segment 46cm..Can you please tell me what this means, thank you..
Oh, great. My grandparents have 8-14 siblings each! No wonder we can't find these people 🤣
Was pretty accurate with one of my 1st cousins. It showed my second cousin being a possible 3-4th cousin. Our grandmother's are sisters.
That is within the range of what would be expected.
Is it good on 3rd cousin
Our grandmother's are sisters too. what cousins are we? Is it okay to have relationship with her?
@@amilgnilo2527 I'd really like to know the same thing
Yes it's definitely good on 3rd cousin's, my relative on my mom side took the dna ancestry test , and popped up as my third cousin so it's definitely accurate.
Good explanations. I love the way you manage to simplify things.
I try.
Great video. I did one on DNA as well. I had my RAW data uploaded to several sites. I like the MyHeritage webpage. However, rather than use the Flag current location they should use the Nationality instead. For example, Americans living in Bahrain show up as being from there.
That is a great suggestion. I hadn't thought of it before, but for ex-pat out there, it may confuse some matches.
I was able to get to my 12th great grandfather. Which is fucking insane
It can be.
Another great video Andy!
Hi, I have two matches that present as 2nd cousins, I understand completely your explanation, but we cannot find a link between us. The two matches are also a 2nd cousin to each other. Can you offer any advice please as the best way to resolve this. We have been looking at this for months without any success. Thank you
Compare your results to siblings and 1st cousins if available. There may be an NPE in one of your family trees.
My 3rd cousin found me threw our Great Great grandmother we both had same comon ancestor his great grandfather was my great uncle. His sister is my great aunt. But problem is my great great grandmother had such a big family with 11 brothers and sisters I have many great great uncles and aunts on just that side of the family. So I have many great cousin inlaws removed etc.
Answered on FHFLive: ruclips.net/video/pVml0P134wE/видео.html
Is there something between a first and second cousin? Thomas and his only wife had 2 kids, Irene and Warren. Irene had a child, Arlene. Warren had a child, Laura. Arlene had a child Mary. Laura had a child, Chris.
Arlene and Laura have one set of the same grandparents, so they are first cousins.
What is the relationship between Chris and Mary? They do not share the same great grandparents, but they share one set of great grandparents. I think that means 2nd cousins.
Then what is the relationship between Arlene and Chris? Arlene’s grandfather is Chris’s great grandfather. What is this called?
First cousin once removed
Very informative video. I have a 2nd-3rd cousin with 222cm across 10 segments and i have entered this information on the DNA painter and have some what narrowed it down. It also stated on there to look at the 3rd-Great Grand parent level. What does that mean? Could they possibly be a 3rd cousin too? The most challenging part is ascertaining the exact dna connection. hope to hear from you!!
DNA Painter can't give you definitive answers. It can only point you in a plausible direction. I would suggest doing DNA triangulation and genealogical record research of the DNA matches and your lines to see if they fall into the 2nd-3rd cousin category or a different location. But at least you have a general idea of where to start looking. Does that help?
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Can you please do an explanation of X matches?
Try this video. If that doesn't help, ask again and I'll get Andy to fully respond. ruclips.net/video/Q2YYMDQ8G2s/видео.html = Devon
Hi I love all your videos and find them so helpful. Just wondering if there is a place you could direct me too that shows the charts you are referring to with average number of segments as well as the cMs. Thanks :)
This is one I uses often www.legacytree.com/dna-relationship-chart Does that help?
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics That chart does not include half siblings, half first cousins, etc...
I have a suspected 4X great grandfather. When I look at DNA matches for myself and descendants of his three brothers, I have a total of 11 DNA matches with 9 to 29 cM among them. With that many matches and that amount of cM's have I proven that the man is actually my 4X great grandfather? Thanks!
Mom's sister , same Mother, has My Uncle, my Dad's Brother as her father. what does that make My Aunt to me or to my Mom>??
So go back 2-4 cousins, yup that’s what my first cousin told me to do
If your parents are second cousins with someone else’s parents, does that make that person your 3rd cousin?
what if you don't know you grand parent on your side of the familly and you don't know your own father but you mother was only parent growing you only know her side of the family
This is the same problem that adoptees have (only you have an extra generation). Matches can help find a common ancestor and then you have to do descendancy research to identify the possible immediate ancestors.
I share DNA with people that I was told growing up were very good family friends, but not blood related. I also share some DNA with my mom's cousins. I share no DNA with my Dad's side of the family... is that possible? My mom passed away, I am an only child and very confused about all this. Can you help me out?
I have a lot of double cousins. How do you calculate their grandkids? Also 1/2 siblings my nieces are listed as first cousins.
The DNA Geek often talks about double cousins. Here's an example thednageek.com/double-cousins-and-dna/
Totally unrelated to this video, I saw one of your comments in another video that said you had a video on adopted relatives, what is the title of the video? My dad was adopted and has passed away so I don't have DNA for comparison, but from a DNA standpoint, isn't it the same as in the video where you traced back using a mother's DNA, and the non-matches would be from my father?
Try this livestream that we did a while back: ruclips.net/video/KcsQHKLSjFQ/видео.html
What is a triangulated dna match. I have quite a few of those. Could it mean that we are distantly related to each other?
Distant or close. It means that three people all share the same segment of DNA with each other.
why do i share .77% DNA with 4th cousin but only .73 with 3rd cousin ? Wouldnt it be higher DNA % with shared 2nd Great - Grandparents than with 3rd Great ? Also it says half identical on chromosome #1 with this 4th cousin
I did my DNA test and said I was Russian,asian, Siberian plus some other stuff! Really shocking! Thanks for the great videos! You guys were the ones who inspired me to do it! Keep up the GREAT WORK!
Glad you could join the fun.
3rd - 4th cousin?
1.0% (73.1 cM)
Shared DNA
4
Shared segments
32.3 cM
Largest segment
WHAT THIS MEAN??.. AFTER MY DNA TEST I FOUND OUT I MATCH WITH A LADY WITH THE SAME LAST NAME OF MY FATHER'S FAMILY .... WITH THOSE RESULTS..
3rd-4th Cousin: This is an estimated range of relationship based on the amount of DNA you share with this lady.
1.0% (73.1 cM): This is the amount of DNA that you share. (ruclips.net/video/5VmgHOhG6io/видео.html for an explanation of centimorgans)
4 Shared Segments: The DNA that you share is divided into 4 separate segments. This is in the typical range for 3rd cousins.
32.3 cM Largest segment: This is the longest segment of the shared DNA. Having this large of a segment is a strong indicator that you are more likely to be a 3rd cousin than a 4th cousin.
Overall, it means that you likely share a set of great great grandparents.
Can a dna half sibling test dictate false neg when the father inquestion is from a generation of cousin marriages
What would make my kids be to my first cousin her twin sister kids would the be blood related
Identical twins provide a nice conundrum. Genealogically, their children are 1st cousins. But genetically their children are half siblings.
So my first cousin on my father's side married my husband's first cousin on his mother's side. What would be the relationship of our children? Would it make them second cousins or first cousins? Since our children share pairs of great-grandparents
Yes. That's what the first several search tools are fool. I thought I stated that in the video. Forgive me if I was unclear. I was really hoping to make that point come across.
For 33 years, I thought I knew what cousin meant. I was 100% wrong.. Example, for everyone who's reading my comment, let's say you and I are first cousins and you had a child, I thought your child was my second cousin. If you have grandchildren, I thought they would be my third cousins. I was completely wrong. Cousins share a common ancestor. My mother's first cousin is also my first cousin. I would be 1st cousin once removed. Any children I have would still be 1st cousins to my mother's 1st cousin but twice removed. But if my mother's 1st cousin has children, they would be my 2nd cousins and any children my 2nd cousins have because we share a common ancestor.
Now that I know that after 33 years, it's so much harder for me to know who my third cousins and etc are because I have to know my great grandparents or even 2nd to 10th great grandparents are..
Does anyone have any suggestions for me on how I can know my ancestors whom I don't so I can locate my 3rd or 4th or so on cousins? I can use any suggestions at this point.
So 2nd to 4th is better than 5th and higher to find 2nd and 3rd or higher great grandparents specifically 2nd for me. Do you have printed handout charts?
Yes to the first part of the question.
My colleagues at Legacy Tree Genealogists have a relationship chart that is handy. www.legacytree.com/dna-relationship-chart
It’s like trying to explain math to a worm. I have 7 paternal 4th cousins on the paternal side showing up and still can’t figure out who my biological father was.
Sorry you're so frustrated. However, perhaps the process should start over using the strategies taught in this series: ruclips.net/p/PLcVx-GSCjcdk1GsAs9NfLWKvACcjE3Afg
While it's labeled as for adoptees, it's really for anyone with unknown parentage like yourself. Give it a go and let me know what further questions you have.
Is it possible that matches can come from your maternal grandfather? And can YOu have a match w someone with NO SHARED MATCHES BETWEEN YOU BOTH?
Yes, you can have autosomal DNA matches with a maternal grandfather.
Yes, you can have DNA matches that match you but not your maternal grandfather.
What questions should I ask a 2nd cousin to find my father if they are my closest relative of a specific nationality?
Find their family tree and see which of their great grandparents were the most likely to be from what you know about your family.
I have two 1stCousins 1xRemoved, from the same Great-Grandparents. One cousin has 578cM. The other has 198cM. Is this possible?
Yep. The range for 1c1r is 102-900 shared cM. Check out this follow-up video about that tool
5 Things To Know About DNA Painter Shared cM Tool ruclips.net/video/NZN2WceNI2A/видео.html
Hii, i have an question to ask ! My mother's side sister son and me in love, we are cousin's and idk we can marry or not? Furthermore, we are 3 yrs diffrent i m older thn him 3 yrs ! My mother is elder than his mother, our grand parents are sibling's ! His grandmother is older thn my grandmother...pls tell me should we can married? We are on confusion pls help our problem sir!!!
Hello,
Very interesting thank you..
I am trying to find my fourth cousins. My father’s great grandfather’s brother’s great grandson. If we can take DNA or genetic test. Will it prove that he is my fourth cousin. And what is the exact name of the test and where can I take this test?
Awaiting your reply
It will be a piece of evidence, but not proof in and of itself. Any of the autosomal testes (Ancestry, MyHeritage, 23andMe, or FTDNA) will work.
i have a 2nd - 3rd cousin on my mums side 230cm across 18 segments . what dose this mean
Plug those numbers into the Shared cM tool that I discussed in this video and that should give you some ideas. ruclips.net/video/NZN2WceNI2A/видео.html
Thank you so much for your efforts. I am just confused because I am a man and I was matched with a lady through FTDNA family finder and she was labeled as my 2nd-4th cousin, my question is should we trace our paternal lines or maternal lines because she obviously tested MTDNA not the big-y ? Could you kindly explain that to me? Thanks in advance.
It is obvious she tested mtDNA rather than autosomal DNA?
I am happy I am getting this info from watching this video because I am desperate to find my cousin from my birth family side my biological cousins and I want to know my ashally family trust me I been thinking about this for awhile so I am happy I am watching this video
Best of luck!
My closest match is a 3rd cousin. I have no way of contacting her. She hasn't been active on Ancestry for a year and does not answer my messages. I found her on facebook and no answer. I have no idea how we are related with one exception. I am searching for the father of my great grandmother and think this relationship could hold the the key. Does anyone have any strategies I could try? She is from the London area and all my relatives are from the North of England.
Sadly, it's possible that this person only took a DNA test to find out their ethnicity and doesn't want to be contacted. The next strategy is to attempt to do living person research. Here's an article that might be useful www.familytreemagazine.com/strategies/tracking-down-living-relatives/
So if my mom and her sister are half siblings my cousin would most likely show up as my second cousin?
Actually it would show up as a 1st cousin once removed (a half cousin). But the amount of overlap in shared DNA between 2nd cousins and half cousins is enough that unless you are on the extreme, they are indistinguishable.
Family History Fanatics ok so what if my 1st cousin is showing up as my 2nd-3rd cousin ...her and my mother are full sisters so how is this possible? We are for sure 1st cousins so why are we showing up this way? Ugh so confused
Ok I don't have any frist cousins because my aunt & uncle never had children but I do have cousin thru my great grandma children in they had children but my great grandma had 4 different baby Father so how much DNA do I share with my half cousins in to there children in what are to me 2nd 3rd because I am so confused with the whole cousin ish I don't have any first cousins with my grandmother's children like my immediate family.
Check out this information about half relatives. Then if you have more questions, ask there so I'll know what else to share www.familyhistoryfanatics.com/understand-half-relationships
Is it possible to find an unknown great grandfather's name through dna matches on our list of distant cousins. How far back do I need to go with cousins if they knew his name from there grandparents or parents and their children. I don't even know how to explain it on a public level I would want to ask in private more specifically to be comfortable asking. Thank you
A great-grandfather (rather than a 2nd, 3rd, or 4th) has a greater chance of being discovered if:
1. He has multiple lines of descent.
2. People from those multiple lines of descent have taken DNA tests and shared their results publically.
3. Someone has done genealogical record research to link the DNA to persons from the past.
If those criteria have been made, it's possible to discover the great-grandfather.
I recently found someone who is my great grandfathers 4th cousin 2 times removed. How then would I be related to this person? Obviously we are cousins but I am new to this and haven't figured out relationships yet
Plug in the amount of cMs or percent of DNA shared into this tool. dnapainter.com/tools/sharedcmv4
It can help you visualize the potential relationships if you haven't build a family tree yet.
I have a new match on Ancestry a Second cousin - 4% shared DNA 291cM across 11 segments - seems like a close match I have no idea who this person is can you please give me some advise on where to start and what the likely relationship could be? Thanks
Plug in the cM to the tool here dnapainter.com/tools/sharedcmv4
You can then visualize where the relationship could show up.
Great video, thank you !
I have a match of 126 cM across 8 segments (Ancestry) who is my 2nd Cousin 1x removed, I have similar match of 128 cM across 7 segments (Ancestry) can I look at the same relation as my first match seeing they are about the same cM's and segments ??
The relationship has a 48% chance of being a Half 2C, 2C1R, Half 1C2R, or 1C3R. There are even more possibilities so check out this website by entering in your cMs dnapainter.com/tools/sharedcmv4
Oh man... what a mess I have trying to figure out our families History.
So my Mother in law was adopted out of France. We have a possible name for her bio mother but nothing else. No name for the father.
DNA results only show my daughter as close related to her and all the rest are third cousins and further out. With no clue what side is father what side is mother..... I am at a loss and trying my best to narrow things down but boy is it frustrating. Any advice?
You are going to want to cluster your matches and try and figure out how the clusters are related.
Ancestry recently showed a 1-2nd cousin match
But I cannot find his last name or the name of his mother on my tree
Those cousins won't always have the same last name because surnames can change or there are unexpected paternal events where the surnames don't line up.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics My great grandparents names are Hopgood Wood Brewster Archibald Wyllie Zaiser Meier
Unless I have missed someone, I have all their children
The parents of the dnamatch are Sheremeta & Morgan
That would be very significant changes
Is it more likely that the relationship is incorrect??
If my grandmother and my boyfriend's grandfather are brother and sister, Is it ok or possible for us to be in a relationship?
That's a decision you need to make. ruclips.net/video/ZbzFHr3nM8U/видео.html
ive found my 5th cousin but i dont think i should even contact them because i see it as useless.
Why would contacting them be useless? You might be able to share genealogical records to validate your family tree.
Mine grandfather and his great great grandfather are brothers...what is the distant?,
I would need to see a diagram of this as I'm not sure how this would work out. Do you have that available?
What is a cousin verse a first cousin ? Or are they the same ?
1st cousins share grandparents, 2nd cousins share great grandparents, 3rd cousins share great great grandparents.
Colloquially, in the US when we say cousin we are talking about 1st cousins.
Family History Fanatics but if you have a great grandparent that’s 13 generations ago - their children are your first cousins 13 times removed - generations
I have a friend who was adopted recently did AncestryDNA she shares 1837cm with another girl we can not figure out if they are half sis or aunt niece relations...they both share a cousin for one the cousin is a 2nd cousin and the other girl he is a 4th cousin..does this mean they are not sisters because he would be a 2nd cousin to both right?
There are a few different scenarios that could be playing out. In order to resolve this you would need to look at a chromosome browser to see what (and how many) segments they share with each other and all together. Unfortunately Ancestry doesn't have one so all of the kits would need to be uploaded to GEDmatch in order to do this.
ok so what if my 1st cousin is showing up as my 2nd-3rd cousin ...her and my mother are full sisters so how is this possible? We are for sure 1st cousins so why are we showing up this way? Ugh so confused
Didfferent possibilities. 1) Your parents may not be full siblings. 2) You may be on the low end of overlap between 2nd cousins and 1st cousins in the amount of shared DNA.
I married a cousin his name was James wilkie he was related to my mum through a cousin of his Ted Firth aunty peg Firth had a son out of we'd lock to a great uncle of mine Henry withers
Thanks for sharing.
I LOVE the chart you pulled up at 4:14. Is that chart available anywhere online? Also I usually look at anyone who has 20 cM or more shared with me. I also need to ask about adoptions. I have one match at 100 cM labelled by the company as a 2nd to 4th cousin match, but he was adopted, and is from a closed state. He lives in the USA and I do not. He still doesnt have his original birth certificate. This is making it harder to work out how he is related to me except that I do know he is related on my mothers side, because he has several matches to other people from my mothers maternal family. Adoptions really do put a kink in these matches. Maybe you can do a video on that topic? Especially since the reason why many adoptees are doing DNA tests these days, is to find their biological families.
Here is a link drive.google.com/open?id=1jbmHQhA2c_CG0SIHWVH5Q4TV887gxAsC_HJAidgw5kA
You can save a copy to your Google Drive. I use it and the one Riniculous mentions all the time.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics did you lock this document link? can't remove the number 10Cm for shared Cm...thanks.
101.1 shared cM
2 shared segments
62.9 longest block
The match is 30 years older than me
There are several matches within my generation, but none in the two generations above me (Self on the Shared cM chart at DNApainters).
Do you have any suggestions?
Try putting together a WATO chart.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics At first I had no idea what a WATO chart was, but I looked it up. I will see if I can make a chart. Thanks!!
I found 4th cousin on Ancestory she is half Korean (I’m full Korean) and half white, her mom is full Korean like me what relationship potentially would her mom be? 3rd or 2nd cousin? Or would a test be needed to determine the relationship?
4th cousin in Ancestry DNA terms is just a place holder showing how much DNA you share (less than 50 cM?). You would want to test her mom and any other family members (hers and yours) to help narrow down the exact relationship.
We are 27 cm’s but potentially what relationship would her mother be to me? Aunt or a closer related cousin? (Her mom won’t take a test 🙁) I just want to know “theoretically” what could/would be her relationship to me.
@@eunheekim02 27cM could in theory be anywhere from 3rd cousin to 6th cousin
Do 4th cousins are blood related?
They can be. But not all of them share the same DNA.
What if you only have 6 great grandparents? It is possible for one to have only 2 grandparents.
Biologically, no. DNA testing wise, yes, because you can only match with people who have also tested. If one set of your grandparents had ancestors who had few living descendants get a DNA test, then it is entirely possible to have grandparents with no matches that belong to them.
I’m wondering how my grandmothers(my mother’s mom) 2 sisters have shown up as my 2nd cousins and the daughters of those two sisters show as my second and third cousins... help please help me! Driving myself nuts trying to figure this out .
The rough category (2nd cousin) is a simple way of identifying a range of shared DNA that a match has. It will encompass 2nd cousins, but also some 3rd cousins (who share more than normal amounts of DNA) as well as some 1st cousins (who share less than normal amounts). A great aunt shares the same amount of DNA as a 1st cousin.
I wonder how the results would show up for half first cousins? I wonder if it shows up as second cousins. I have five half first cousins because my grandmother was married 5times. And had 4 children with different men. Sigh 😔
Half first cousins share more DNA than second cousins, so depending on where you fall on the scale it may be reported as 1st cousin (high) or 2nd cousins (low)
Family History Fanatics thank you so much for your reply! 😊 that’s so good to know 😊
2nd-4th Cousins?
102 shared cM
30 shared segments
20 longest block
x-match
Would this be a a 2nd cousin or closer to 4th cousin? Thanks.
Probably a 3rd cousin. The difficulty is that this is a little more than average for a 3rd cousin (55cM) and much less than average for a 2nd cousin (220 cM). Of course it is right at the average for 2nd cousin Once removed. However, because of the cM overlap it could be anything between 2nd to 4th cousins. I know that is not helpful, but sometimes DNA is not too helpful.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics Thank you!
My DNA tests told me i have a lot of 4th cousins and 5th cousins who are 100% Jewish, i wonder how I'm related to them
Jewish is a religion. No one can be 100% a religion. Either you accept and/or practice the religion or you don't. Never hear anyone say they were 100% christian, Muslim, Rasta, Buddhist or Hindu.
Most of the Jewish reported ethnicity leads back to Eastern Europe.
Jewish ppl are also the semites ppl from the judean region ( origin of Judaism) so it's also a ethnicity
several questions regarding 3rd and 4th cousin.. do all 3rd and 4th cousins share same surnames with each others or not??? do you think its strange with huge age gaps between myself and my 3rd cousin??? My 3rd cousin gentlemen is the guy that I get along well since my childhood much more than my close 1st cousins. we joked each other laughed a lot and we are like close brothers than distant cousins. At least 3rd and 4th cousins share less amount of DNA than myself with 1st and 2nd cousins at least. I just turned 34 years old first week in last month and he is 45 years old which makes it like huge age gap differences between two. does age gap between same generation cousins really matter????? My 3rd cousin Edward and his wife Jennifer have son named Liam. so Liam is my 3rd cousin once removed. right??? What about my relationship with Jennifer??? Is Jennifer My 3rd cousin in Law??? does the tem 3rd cousin in law really exist???? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 I just wanna make sure I understood how these long family tree works....
Hardly any 3rd and 4th cousins share the same surname (unless you had a family that had lots of boys, and all those boys had lots of boys, etc).
@Family History Fanatics. you got it right. number of 3rd cousin is lot more than number of 2nd cousin that majority of people have. so many of 3rd cousins have random surnames then while some does have my surname. I think you forgot to answer these questions.. is it ok to call My 3rd cousin's wife Jennifer as 3rd cousin in Law???? I don't know how to refer to my distant cousin's spouse..... plus My 3rd cousin Edward is almost dozen years older than me... does huge age gap really matter between distant cousin and myself??? still Edward is in the same generation that I am in. right???? make sure I understand it correctly to avoid the confusion between relationship with many many cousin's and cousin's once removed....
Is it ok to marry third cousin?
That has better genetic outcomes.
Be an angel pls & help me figure this out: I tested w/AncestryDNA.
I have 6 matches on AncestryDNA; four (4-6cuz) and two (5-8cuz). All six of the matches lead me to the same fam; let's call the fam Klue. Background My PatGrandma MJ (b1892) was a mixed baby; given up by her moms' (Nel) fam; but as Nel got older; she was in touch with my MJ; even came w/Nel finacee & offered MJ an education. MJ already married w/one child; didn't want to leave her fam & pass in society.
4th half cuz (45cM) would be 4G-Gma to me right? five of my matches match each other at the GG-Gpadres -Florida Klue; and the other two matches enter through the grandchildren of Florida; but wouldn't I also come through those people? and wouldn't one of Florida's children be my Gma???
It’s too many of us
What is a distant cousin?
This is typically someone who is a 3rd cousin or farther removed.
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics
So is a 2nd 3rd cousin considered distant? 187cm
Can I have an explaination of how and what is a third, fourth cousin, and fifth cousin is
How much shared centimorgans? Consult this website dnapainter.com/tools/sharedcmv4
Can first cousin marry fourth cousin ?
Yes.
My DNA matches say my half niece and two 1st cousins are all 2nd cousins. How does that work?
Maybe your first cousins only share 1 of your grandparents.
Wait everyone has 4 sets of great grandparents??? I have 8 as i have 4 grandparents. Am i seeing things wrong or was that a mistake? I'm pretty sure that everyone has 4 granparents & 8 great grandparents not 4.
4 sets (meaning 2) of great grandparents. So one set (mother & father) of great grandparents for each grandparent. Bringing the total to 8 great grandparents.
I signed with the ancestry.com and got my results a while ago. I was reaching out to fourth cousins assuming there may be might be a connection. What does a fourth cousin mean?
lucky05 You and the 4th cousin share one set of great great great grandparents, or 3rd great grandparents.
@@001islandprincess Thank you for the reply 🤗🤗🙏🏿
Download this chart and it'll help you with relationship type questions. www.legacytree.com/dna-relationship-chart
I share 52 cm with a fourth cousin and all our matches show last names like my grandmas last name. ( my moms mom) I’m trying to find out who her dad is since her mom is mostly white and the reason why were related is bc the indigenous blood 🩸
You forgot about the 4th cousin: how many sets of great great great grandparents?
16 sets of ggg grandparents!
Rusty get's the gold star in the class. Thanks.
You confused me more!!
I'll try to explain it a different way next time.
I’m black but have some white 4th cousins some share as high as 30 cms with many in the 20s based on that what does that mean on how far we shared a common ancestor a 4th great grandparent or closer?
Most of the people I share DNA with are 3rd-5th cousins.
Devon can relate
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics 😎👍 Some even have ancestry in the same places I do, more or less.
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Hi again, I have another third cousin who shares 4% DNA, 268cm arcoss 14 segments, where do we connect.. he was adopted and found out his father's name, on his documents which turns out is the same name as my great grandparent, but i cant figure out if it is my great grandfather, who is his father, or great grandfather's son. Thank you..he is really trying to figure this all out and I would just like to help him.
Hi, I have a third cousin, whom i share 1% with .she's 41cm, across 2 segments, unweighted shared DNA 67cm, longest segment 46cm..Can you please tell me what this means, thank you..