This is why Alienware computers are terrible...
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Let's be fair, that's a very old model.
The new ones are much worse.
Man I was about to go off on you lololol so true
lmao
Dw the only good models they had were up to the original predator case. And even then thats where the whole airflow problem came in. Before that the cheiftec cases they used were probably really good anyways.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You had me in the first half, not gonna lie.
Alienware hasn't been the same since Dell aquired them.
true so true Dell is like Alienware must get smaller and smaller specially on the coolers when an over clocker is like I need a 240 mm rad Dell is like a 120mm is fine for overclocking
Dell = Alienware HELL!! 😈
facts
Remember when Dell made the best, most reliable, best supported computers? Pepridge Farm remembers.
THANK YOU!!! Dell watered them down.
This is where the phrase "sounds like a jet engine" comes from.
Jimmy Good buy dude.. I feel the same way about Alienware 🤦🏻🤦🏻I’d spend $75 and get the white tower, Tempered Glass tower on new egg and put that stuff in and you got a easy $800 to $1000 for a used PC 👍 especially with the water cooling and the tower I’m talking about comes with 4 RGB Fans 120mm has a nice spot for all that stuff and for the Rad 👍 nice fine bro
Sounds about right.
Bro I still have an r9 290x lol at 50% fan speed
Dell really ruined the Alienware brand after the acquisition they went from well built with good quality and highly engineered devices to low cost, low quality and it kinda works devices.
But they aren't low cost.
@@bobbrock4221 I think he means low cost parts
@@jamesjdm ah I see.
"Every single 290x i've own has died"
That sounds like a personal problem.
Somewhere, a 290x has sworn vengeance and it's looking for Timmy Joe for all the murders.
I agree. I had one and still working fine after 6 years.
The AIO on the Fury X is just as unreliable
They do like to die though. It pulls way to much power it kills itself and it runs way to hot. I have a dead r9 290 tri x. Makes sense, high current cores usually die faster.
Many old high end cards just die sooner due to running so long and so hat reduces lifespan of chip a lot. Electronics don't like heat.
I still have the one i bought back when i graduated in 2013. Still works too. Was my first gaming desktop. Still use it today
Lmao but why tho
Same ive had my Aurora ALX chassis like 10 years old+ only thing ive upgraded on mine was gpu ram and ssd it is a pain to clean and in traditional Alienware fashion looks out weigh cooling performance when it comes to case design
Run cyberpunk it'll die
Its so good u luky u have one I don't have a gaming one just a normal one
@Randy Names ya i built my own 11th gen i-7 rtx 3090 should be good for another 10-15 years hopefully
When a regular Dell catches AIDS, it becomes an Alienware.
@PCDYYD Polio
@PCDYYD It needs to drink holy water, then it becomes an optiplex.
Yet Alienware lives on, showing how truly strong it is. To continue to live with AIDS? Lol are you kidding me? Not many things tougher than that mate. That’s truly a compliment. I mean look at magic Johnson, incredible. Now that’s great marketing for Alienware.
dell + facehugger = alienware.
@@deadlymarsupial1236 Suffocating and ready to burst.
I remember when everyone wants a dell or alienware 15 years ago. Now the only ppl who wants them are ppl who don't keep track of tech news.
Replies on the same pc chaise Timmy trashed with an I7 3820, and protests in the poor.
Ohh yeah, I wanted the Area 51 back around 2001. As soon as Dell acquired Alienware I stopped caring, and I am glad I did.
Back in 2005 dell made some boring, but entirely solid computers
Guilty as charged here. 😒 I got an Aurora r11 with a 3080 GPU and i7 10700 processor. No need for a heater in my office with this little furnace. Once the warranty is done, I'm thinking of upgrading my cooling with a CPU liquid cooler.
quick question: does the suckiness of alienware products also apply to their laptops? in my country they're branded as the best, i don't know if their cooling solutions are good.
Never owned one, but I know Alienware has an undying passion for mounting brackets and plastic shell
They were AWESOME..... before DELL.....
Nah they were pretty bad before as well, no airflow from the beginning
No, not really, the design has always been terrible.
@@nathanhamman418 I've been in pc service since 1991, and I don't remember them having any case issues when they first came out. I mean, they used those Chieftec cases and they were pretty decent. Even the 2004 Alx had decent airflow. Case modders loved them. I do remember the first DELL version I got in, You could tell immediately who made it when you opened it up. Very different construction.
Sorry about the focus hunting the whole video. Panasonic sure can't make autofocus, I usually manual it but I forgot :(
What you really need to be sorry about is wearing the same shirt for the past 50 videos and not washing it.
@@steelisreal4313I know right, smells like yo mama!!!
I just imagine, you are playing at night, and your mom comes in to check if you are sleeping, you shut off your monitor and think everything will be alright, then the pc starts revving up like an a-10 warthog and loud errors start blaring that the computer is overheating, and you get caught.
Customer: Pay a Premium to get a Premium Product.
Alienware: Erm.....No. But at least we ripped you off and you didn't even care until it was too late.
I just remember the guys from the big bang theory using alienware and thinking I guess they arent that smart
Product placement sells!
people think if Sheldon has an Alienware, it must mean they're really good😂
@@goqwertygo and they are really good. I got mine specifically because of Big Bang Theory and I continue to use my new Alienware to study quantum physics and anti-gravitational pull conflicting with the absorption of anti-matter.
@@clemfandango3925 fascinating I can do that with my Lenovo Legion👌 without the Aleinware tax😂
@@goqwertygo ....I was just having a meme mate. All was well until come to find out, you’re here speaking Ill of Alienware....yet you use a Lenovo legion...
@Smashmouth Hockey Thell previous models may have had issues, but every brand has issues. I just got the new Legion 5 2020 model that has many improvements from the previous models. I like the enterprise grade sleeper aesthetic. Simple white backlit keyboard and none of that over glorified RGB battery wasting bullshit. I've always liked Dell tho, loved using my previous daily driver Latitude E6540. Still play around with it using an external GPU Beast dock with an old Titan Black just because it can😂
I did consider Dell/Alienware when I was shopping for a new laptop, but it would have been like an extra $1000 Alienware and GAMER RGB tax to get the same spec 17" 2060 Ryzen7 4800H.
Timmy that's the sound of performance 😂😂😂
Same problem with the Dell Precision workstations, over-engineered, pointless proprietary 1000W watt PSUs, all these random plastic ducts and flaps inside the case that essentially suffocate the case and make the fans run at full-speed because it's so cramped, despite the fact that the ducts are supposed to "efficiently" channel air...
Not to mention the fact the cases are huge and built like a tank, weighing about 30-50KG, yet have 80mm fan mounts... what moron designed these things?
I think it's probably a case of the (likely) overpaid designers trying to justify their positions by trying to reinvent the wheel and just ending up making something that performs worse than the bare basics stock design of a normal PC case.
After saying "The End" and leaving I honestly expected you to come back in frame ... with a sledgehammer.
They had a good laptop once in 2010... So... There's that.
can you change the case? or is the motherboard proprietary?? I feel sad for the parts inside
Question I have a labtop right now and I'm looking for a cheap pc and the Alienware pc is 600 it's on a discount should I still get it? It surely has to be better than my labtop that can only run 80-100 fps
My favorite part is all the random, pointless plastic all over the place.
plastic fantastic
i feel like their reasoning was to keep any airflow moving through the PC so in a way forcing it to go through the components and cooling them, but i don't think that worked out as well as they thought?
I think my server rack is quieter than that thing on startup.
what did the gpu run like outside of the case? gut it and put into another case.
What if you drill the front of the case to allow more airflow in? Will that reduce case temp enough for the GPU?
Only if someone with an actual brain was in charge of designing Alienwares🤔🤔🤔
Aka any other person
@@kennethshen7265 fr lmao
The PC worked properly for 10 years, I would say that the design is adequate.
@@AthosJosue and if you poke a few more holes in the chassis it would be no where near as loud and last double that
Some Alienwares were really good designs, the Aurora, I think is the cheaper version of Area-51 and it's also worse than a lot of Dell XPS higher end offerings (720 series were really good for airflow). Now, it would be a surprise to find out that it's not the same engineers working on Aurora design who also worked on the very decent (in terms of cooling) XPS 720 design.
Just gut it and put the parts in a case with good air flow
i see a 3080 FE gpu on craigslist for 900. its 15 miles from me and its been on there for 2 weeks. should i try to buy it?
I got an aurora r10 for my birthday with a ryzen 9 5900x and a 3070. Ive been getting above average temps and I’m not sure why since I’ve always seen so much reviews that it was overheating and shutting off at times. Do y’all think I’m lucky or theres a different reason for this?
'Fixing' a dead graphics card that succumbed to excessive levels of heat... with more heat.
My roommate during college years really "loved" my 290x.
free heating
Space heater.
now you need an rx 6700 lol
@@raven4k998 You being serious? my 6800xt runs no hotter than 65 C with 1500rpm fan curve so 6700 should theoretically be better
@@kimjongpoontv69 Are you being serious? My Powercolor Red Dragon V2 RX 580 run at high 70s with near 3000 rpms. Sounds like jet and feels like sauna. I water cooled it, because all that noise was unbearable, now it behaves itself at 70s and 800 rpm fan speed.
What do you thnk about the Aurora 10 now with the ryzen 9 and RTX 3080? the case has better vents. i dunno it's on sale rn and looking into it cuz you know finding a 3080 is almost impossible now, i need it for animation and game design. it is on sale for 3k CAD. i dunno if there is any better option right now for an RTX 3080 system with Ryzen 9, but maybe you know , cuz your video has me a bit creeped out i see other ppl complaining about them now too.
I just had one I sold that I replaced the cpu cooler on. The cooling plate was filled with junk to the point the water wasn't flowing and overheating the CPU. They used a proprietary connector to control it so I cut and soldered a new cooler to the header. Have to love alienware.
This is a known problem with the original cooler, the liquid turns to a gel and clogs the whole thing up. They would last until just out of warranty usually. Many think Dell should have had a recall on the part but of course, they never did.
@@ScottOmatic yea, it wasn't even much better than a stock cooler when new even. The entire computer is a case of over engineering and little real world testing.
Have you tried fixing the cases cooling solution as a whole?
You could certainly improve things at least a little.
Hell, flip the AIO fan to intake, mount it inside the case, and on an elbow blowing at the back of the GPU.
It's ghetto af, but I bet it shaves a couple degrees.
Just get the drill out lol I got lian li coffin from 09 thinking about it.
I died when i saw the video of an actual jet taking off 🤣🤣
Still LMAOOOOO!!!! 🤣🤣🤣👍
Could you undervolt the card for lower temps?
I’m thinking of getting the liquid cooled aura r12 thoughts?
AMD was pretty evil with this card. Whenever a company says 'the temperature is fine', it means it will probably die AFTER the 2 years warranty passed..
I don’t know why your calling AlienWARE bad when that design came out 6 years ago.
its no different that the new models
@@SonnyListonStanAccount big difference
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@@xaviervalentin1143 they all choke the fans and are all bullshit
@@SonnyListonStanAccount cause it’s a pre built computer dude, you can’t expect it to be awesome
just proves that good marketing they had years ago only lasts until word gets around that your product sucks.
I owned 3 R9 290X cards due to a series of RMAs, and since the card was so recent the replacements were all brand new rather than refurbs. Both of the reference cards died within a month. The third one was a free upgrade to a brand new custom card because the last two died so quickly, and that one worked just fine.
i feel like alienware is like the apple of actual pc hardware, underperforming, overpriced, uses its styling and """""status"""" to excuse its faults
Except Apple makes products that people actually want, despite being overpriced. Alienware is just overpriced and nobody wants it.
@@sams_salad_service3653 yeah, ill never understand those people that buy apple's new iwathever every year because they think its somewhat a status symbol
@@AxisCorpsRep yeah, I hate most of their products.
Pretty happy with my apple phone playa hater
@@ohyabuddy12 their phones aren't bad but they are overpriced as hell, also saying "hater" makes you sound 12.
I had that exact case and it wasn't great...
Ever since Dell took over Alienware they've been going downhill :P
Is there a place to mount 1 or 2 exhaust fans at the top? I fixed a case that way once, made all the difference in the world.
So would it be recommmended to just use it without the panel like that? If thats all i got
Dell has screwed me multiple times with defective computers, including a laptop that I bought this summer from them. When I called their support because it was crashing constantly they charged me $120 for tech support, even though it was a defect in the product that THEY SOLD ME!
Boy is dell ever a shit company.
So if you were screwed multiple times with dell, why did you buy another one this summer?
This Lenovo Legion I just got is Sweet! I considered Dell, I have used a bunch of other Dells. My previous daily laptop I still sometimes use is a Dell Latitude E6540. and all my other Latitudes were bought 2nd had never had any issues with them.
“I’m running out of content I need a video to put out”
“I Got it, I’ll put out a video in 2021 of a system nowhere near up to a current configuration of this specific pre-build company and I’ll use that as my benchmark for the current state of the entire company . This in turn will give me more views and ad revenue and at the same time will include absolutely 0 relevant information regarding the topic at hand limiting backlash and requiring me to spend money to get a current up to spec machine”
69. Nice.
@Mankirat Singh oh my mistake. I understand now.
@Mankirat Singh the R12 has no heating issues. The guy is using a fucking R4 and made the mistake of getting amd. This guy's better at eating than he is at reviewing alienware systems.
What gaming pc do you recommend?
Timmy I love ur videos!! Ur the only one I trust when dealing with computers… I’m shopping around for a new gaming PC and came across an Alienware R7 i7 8700 with a Nvidia GeForce 1070 Graphics Card for $600 bucks. Do u think that’s a good deal?? and do u think it will be good enough performance wise to run my GTA5 RDR2 Apex and COD on my 34” UHD Samsung monitor???
you wear that chiplet shirt every time i didn't wanna mention it before
My uncle was rocking that card till I got him a msi rx 580 8gb. That 290 runs hot!
Ok so what should I get if I want the same quality
A pre-built I got a while back came with a blower R9 390x. It seems the default fan curve wasn't properly calibrated for the single-fan blower configuration. Even with the card burning-hot, the blower took its time ramping up, inevitably shutting down the system. For a while I'd set fan speeds manually to something like 60%-70% before playing any game, but eventually I resorted to a custom fan curve through MSI Afterburner. Still, I can't imagine being able to sell this card without a huge "AS-IS" asterisk.
Just bought a gtx 970
i5-4690k
msi z97
16gb ram
750w psu and an old Corsair case for $200 Canadian
Im still using that msi board but i upgraded the 970 to a 1660 super oc and cpu from i5 4590 to i7 4790.
Run the machine with the sides off. :) There is where you will get your airflow. :)
put some christmas lights on it so you still get rgb
hey guys, if I want to get a good pre build desktop under $2000, what should I get
yeah, those reference 290's are diying like crazy. When I acquired my 290X reference ack in 2013, I put an Gelid Icy Vision cooler on it and the card ran at 72 C winter/ 82-83 C in summer (during 35C ambient hot summer day), and the card always ran at 1000MHz without throttleing and I was happy. Only downside of it was that it uses 3-Pin fans, and 290x uses 4-pin PWM fan control, so Gelid fans were running @100%, so I used Scythe KazeMaster to control the 290X (with Gelid Icy vision) fan speed.
oh fella i feel your pain...
Alienware was an awesome computer, before Dell got a hold of them in March 2006. That is when they went to crap.
Can't you put the little aluminium heatsinks that come with the accelero on the vram, power delivery etc?
Was that 150 Celsius or Fahrenheit, with the heat gun to the core?
Have to admit it is an amazing case design on the outside! Screams 90’s and 2000’s Tech/badass unnamed henchman and I love it!
I mean I think it looks rather spiffy on my desk.
Even an alien woudlnt want that crap
Exactly that model was my favorit pc in the world i love it even today but never could aford one. But dell pcs are a pain in the ass to work around.
I have one of the Area 51 ALX. With a I7 980x with two HD5970s in crossfire. The thing was a dyson
That computer is siiiick.
I have An alienware aurora pc ( same model ) and this one is still running after more than 9 years. They never failed. This isnt a fair conclusion.
I really wouldn't mind the sound I'd buy it off ya Timmy I wear headphones when gaming
When blower cards are maxed out of fans (especially older ones) headphones don't help much
I think you'd need those ear-defenders that they wear on aircraft carriers..... :P
Hope you have a pair of closed-backs.
This thing is a coffin an aluminum coffin! 😂👌
Bought this faulty motherboard to see if I could fix it. Tuns out the socket has liquid metal in it. Its an Intel socket. Anyone know a good way to effectively remove it?
The problem with dells graphics cards is you have to go to their website and update the firmware everytime you wanna reformat and also get MSI afterburner installed to controll the blower fan speed or yes, the gpu will black screen every time.
"Aluminum coffin" haha I like that
Having a used a 390 crossfire config for a good year can confirm hot ass cards. They only really work well with a triple fan aib cooler like the xfx or sapphire cards.
I've got an R4 - owned it from new. It's still going strong, not my main machine anymore, it lives in the den for web browsing and a bit of office work. Mine is in a similar case but has moving slats all along the top which might have improved the cooling. There was always some fan noise when gaming with it but it was never excessive like yours seems to be. It was a good system in its day, the only negative thing about it is the weight - mine weighs a ton.
I have had 3 or 4 290x cards not one of them has ever crashed on me. i wonder if its just the refrains cards that give you troubles
I like how every video that does a review over the old machines says they’re bad, but every channel that review that does a new machine has almost no complaints lol
Alienware is just a dell in a fancy shell
to try to trick 9 year olds to buy their shit products
@@kennethshen7265 bingo
I have an Alienware Area-51m R2 with an RTX2080 Super. It has never thermal-throttled, and even flat out the fan noise isn't intrusive. I couldn't be happier with it.
I got the first gen Aurora with some bent pins on the LGA1366 socket. It was from my old job, an eWaste recycler, and I guess they messed up the upgrade. It was gutted, and required me to get a cooler, which I went aftermarket. Luckily everything worked after throwing a i7-930 and crusty GPU I got for $50. I added an intake fan to pull from the above to alleviate the poor intake. Also the CPU liquid cooler was too big to fit in the rear, so I threw it behind the dvd bays.... It was a looker lol
i have an alienware...and i love it..i had to upgrade the cooling as air cooling was crazy loud...but i really enjoy it!
They might now be great pcs. But I love their older cases.
What is the best gaming laptop to buy now?
Got one of these cases for $50 and thought I'd build a little custom pc, but it was caked in cigarette tar and taking everything off this case is a nightmare.
if they didnt sell out to dell they would still be good
I don't know if it's possible but could you shove everything into another case? Don't know how proprietary the mounting is but if heat is the problem that could be a decent cheap solution.
Agree with removing all those black covers inside the casing, and then seeing what ventilation is available for the front if intake fan or fans can be added and also fill the top with some exhaust fans to dissipate the heat out.
GPU wise, probably 3gb gpu like hd 7950/r9 280/x whatever is cheaper as its equivalent to a gtx 1050 ti other than the vram.
I love this video, I am a big Alienware fan and have had many models ( I only buy them used ) I had a Alienware x51, Area 51 R2 and the Aurora R4 in this video. I have long sold the Area 51 and x51 but the r4 I gave to my Aunt for her designer classes, she was using a basic laptop and needed a system to run Autocad 2016 and some housing development software. My R4 has almost all the same hardware as yours i7 4820k ( Not the 4930k ) 16GB of Ram a AMD R9 290, One thing I had that your system doesn't have is the active venting system. BUT SURE ENOUGH yup the R9 290 needed to replaced same artifacting issues. NOW when I handed mine down it was about 2 years ago and the market wasn't booboo like todays GPU market. I was able to find a Dell OEM Nvidia GTX 2013 Titan for like 100$ and its been running in the system without issues. It runs the Dell OEM drivers and firmware witch I was really happy about.
Also a major change I made with the system was I ditched the questionable Water cooler and replaced it with a Dell Precision air cooler.
Over all getting a old Alienware is like getting a old Bentley.
Big, Flashy, uses abunch of resources without the performance, and coasts as much money to keep running as it did to buy.
i'm not saying, it's the aliens
but it's the aliens.
Loved the video. Good times with Timmy Joe!
what should i sell my pc for it has r5 2600 lottery barn cpu 1060 6gb 2x8gb sticks of corsair lpx at 3200 mhz already 3 dark shard fans 2 uphere fans 1 870 ssd 1 tb 1 nvme 500 gb 970 evo 250 gb ssd western digital 750 watt psu and a fantec dynamic something thinking abt selling it cause i want to get a better pc when prices go down i want to sell it for 2k
My question is, what prebuilt would you recommend then lol? My budget is about $2000
Not exactly fair to record the fan when it boots.. it kicks up to like 50% for the first like 10 seconds and then goes down the basically silent so that just doesn't really show that you're doing this without bias, but mines had a like 240mm or a 180mm fan in the front? It wasn't ever really bad about being loud ran pretty good but I got rid of the it after upgrading because the case was just so damn heavy
I love the look of this case I got one too. put a new mobo in it and can't even get into bios atm but waiting on a wired keyboard coming tomorrow as I think it maybe because it is a wireless keyboard.
I found a alienware r8 for 750 should I get it ?
People that buy alienware are the same people who rep. supreme stickers, a whole lot of flash for a whole lot of no value and sustenance
1) The ATX standard is unfortunate. This is why desktop computers require exotic cooling (look at a rack server for a better board layout). 2) That having been said, it is ancient and the problems haven't changed in 20+ years and Dell's competition manages to make computers that aren't awful that manage with atx components.
Just got an amd R10 and after replacing the crap fans with corsair pro fans both the gpu and cpu toping out at 60-70 degrees and pretty silent.
can i install a gtx 1660 ti?
Try thermal pads on the memory for your aftermarket cooler?
What's so bad about a 290? I got one and it works fine and stays below 70c
it really depends, they have new models with different graphics cards now and u can change them, and also they have a really good design with a bunch of fans and its own cooling system u should really try the new ones and it’s really quiet now.
I've purchased some of the newer Alienware desktops to harvest the GPU for gaming/mining as they were relatively inexpensive, and relatively easy to flip.
The liquid cooling option for the CPU is a must have, but often expensive and/or the option delayed my shipping dates, so I added AIO units to them before reselling them.
They lock some of the bios options, so you can't get maximum memory speed unless you pay for this option, even with DELL, or aftermarket memory, not really a big deal in my case.
Many buy Alienware desktops due to their onsite/in-home support as they don't want to deal with mail-in hassles.
@Derp Buu Yes we've been able to negotiate lower prices and/or free/reduced priced upgrades, faster ship times etc by speaking with reps.
When Dell was selling Alienware Desktops with 3700X CPUs and RTX 3070 GPUs for $1200 they'd advertised them for over a week, yet you couldn't buy them yet.
I chatted with Dell reps and was able to get the systems with upgraded liquid cooling and a 2 year extended warranty for around $100 extra, plus buy the units before the others were officially for sale.
You can see without booting that it does not get enough air...great vid, fun to watch this kind of content. 👍 Often comes along with a cool little story 🤗
It gets plenty of air.