Stopped at Twice the Speed Limit | The Tail of The Dragon | Porsche 718 GTS 4.0 | Ep 25

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  • Опубликовано: 10 ноя 2024

Комментарии • 126

  • @312maxon
    @312maxon 4 дня назад

    You are producing valuable data for every driving enthusiast with these trips and videos! We all want to try roads like these, you light the way by showing us where our ride will shine, help us choose where/when to go. You've got a great benchmark car, driving and filming chops too. Bravo! and thank you for planning and filming these!

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  4 дня назад

      Wow - Thanks. 😊 appreciate it and glad to have you aboard

  • @scottbyrne4965
    @scottbyrne4965 Месяц назад +4

    Just discovered your channel. I've driven half of the roads on your list, including this one.

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад +1

      We are glad you found us and hope you stay for the long haul! Welcome aboard! What is your favorite road?

  • @gearhead996
    @gearhead996 Месяц назад +1

    I remember riding on this road for the first time back in the summer of 1996 on my CBR 900RR. It was a big change from the usual roads I rode on in eastern NC. I talked a friend into coming back the next summer with his GSX-R 750. We got to ride the newly finished Cherohala Skyway and had a blast on all of the surrounding roads. I love those mountains!

  • @lowcountrydawg2525
    @lowcountrydawg2525 Месяц назад +9

    I live down in SC. I got pulled over in my '06 Cayman S on The Dragon in October of '23 by Tenn State Patrol. I went up from NC like you did from Deal's Gap, Trooper was in an SUV right around the 1-mile marker on the TN side. Got me for 50 in a 30 and was pretty grumpy about it despite me being super polite and compliant. I paid the fee (can't remember, maybe $150 or so), clerk waived everything else so I got no points on my license. I've been going up there in various cars/bikes since '07 and have only been pulled over three times, resulting in two tickets and one warning. They know what the deal is with the road, but they have to maintain some level of presence up there to keep it in check. I'm at the point now where I'll run the whole Dragon conservatively until it's clear that there's no LEO up there before driving it aggressively. I also only visit on days early in the week now, too.

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад

      Great comment - appreciate the detail! The Red Cayman had a fine of around the same as you mentioned with no points too. Appreciate it!

    • @opmike343
      @opmike343 Месяц назад

      Early AM weekday runs is the magic sauce for any good driving.

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад

      @opmike343 good advice! Thanks

  • @floodtheinbox
    @floodtheinbox Месяц назад +6

    This is the greatest channel on RUclips for car enthusiasts in the US and I don’t understand why there are so few subscribers. I drove a 981 for a couple of years and traded it in on a Tesla😐 but now my fun car is an ND3 and I gotta take it here. Keep it up, the viewership will follow eventually.

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад +2

      Much appreciated- it’s a labor of love. Somebody has to do it! Enjoy the new ride!

    • @mcgoo721
      @mcgoo721 Месяц назад +1

      Most people have too sensitive a gag reflex for driving a porsche so its hard to relate ngl

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад

      Take your motion sickness meds and hold on!

  • @tommiizeng8355
    @tommiizeng8355 24 дня назад

    I was fortunate to drive the dragon. It was unbelievable! That day drove back and forth twice no police at all but I also did not push too hard :)

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  24 дня назад

      Lucky and wise! Great road. What did you drive?

  • @swizlstik
    @swizlstik Месяц назад

    I used to live in SC and had a 2018 ZL1. Went to the Dragon about a dozen times and loved every minute of it. There are some other routes around there that are exciting as well. Never got pulled over.

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад

      Good memories - cool car to enjoy the road in - what are some of your other favorites?

  • @Chance_553
    @Chance_553 Месяц назад +1

    I was about to recommend Cherahola and Richard Russell over deals gap, but then at the end I see they are already tested and scored above the dragon. Good stuff!

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад +1

      We love testing those roads and do so as often as possible!

  • @maxskullic9879
    @maxskullic9879 Месяц назад

    I did this all the time back when I was 18 in my Chevy G20 Cargo Van! It looked like a beat up old work van but it had a late model dirt track engine with 373 gearing, and one nut lose behind the wheel! I had motorcycles try to keep up with me and couldn't! A CARGO VAN! ... But then again, it wasn't just a van, it was The VAN!

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад +1

      Love it - you have to haul to the mail in something man - may as well be a van!

  • @matthewhenderson5070
    @matthewhenderson5070 Месяц назад +1

    I drive Tail of the Dragon several times a year (I live close) There are way too many other great roads in the area to speed on this one. Always, always, always cops on TOTD. It’s a fun road to drive at reasonable speeds plus you always have to watch out for center line crossers and stopped (crashed) vehicles.
    Keep up the great videos 👍

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks for the comment and for sure you are right on with all the great roads out there.

  • @supercarscreams
    @supercarscreams Месяц назад

    I love this channel so much

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад

      @@supercarscreams we appreciate you - no channel without the TrueView crew.

  • @jonasbaine3538
    @jonasbaine3538 Месяц назад +2

    Can’t stop! Won’t stop!

  • @thelifenonadic
    @thelifenonadic Месяц назад +1

    Going to need to get out of the east for the best. Did 190,000 miles over two years in a MK7 GTI just to chase apexes around the country and all the best stuff is out west. East is excellent as well and 129 is a blast, basically a big autocross, but get out to NM, CO, CA, OR, WA, even Texas has some surprises (Three Twisted Sisters are incredible).
    If you aren't yet, use Calimoto. Choose a cool spot a few days away to go to, some way points and you'll be in heaven. Time won't exist.

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks for the comment! I had a Mk6 - super fun! We have plans to get west and can’t wait to make it happen. I guess we will see where the roads out there stack up - but for now - we enjoy these mountains! Cheers.

    • @thelifenonadic
      @thelifenonadic Месяц назад

      @@trueview3127 A couple of suggestions, CO-12 in southern Colorado, CO-67 through Deckers, CO. Just avoid I-25. It's boring. Stay west of it.
      Skaggs Springs Road, heading east from the California coastline out of Stewart's Point. Might get lucky and get to pick a grape off a roadside vineyard. Beautiful road, no people. Heaven.
      Texas Twisted Sisters, 200 miles of hill country madness. You can lift the front wheels in a Miata over the rollercoaster section at 80mph+ if you feel dumb enough to add instead of subtract throttle at the peaks lol

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад

      @@thelifenonadic Excellent Suggestions! Can't wait to get out there . . . maybe next summer will give us the chance.

  • @kendamer1480
    @kendamer1480 Месяц назад +1

    Quite the bummer, but could have been worse! Can’t wait to get back down there in the Spring to try the fresh pavement.

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад

      New pavement as of June 2024! We cant wait to get back down there!

  • @qitstrn
    @qitstrn Месяц назад +2

    I’ve been on that road many times. Cops never give warnings. You got lucky.

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад

      Thanks! Have you ever received a ticket?

  • @DrivinZ
    @DrivinZ Месяц назад

    Bad luck but good job getting a warning. Been up there several times and have never seen law enforcement. Mostly during the week or early morning hours when traffic is light. Honestly it’s my least favorite road given that someone seems to cross into my lane every time and usually a massive truck. Stay safe and thanks for the great content.

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад +1

      It was good to get that warning off to the trailing cars for sure! Cool that you get the chance to run it without traffic, but I have to admit that I'm always a bit apprehensive about the oncoming traffic straying from their lanes. You can see a couple of corners where the Cruiser Bikes are actually leaning over the center line . . . Fortunately, I haven't run into a truck blocking the way before . . . must be scary when that happens!

  • @motorgearhead
    @motorgearhead Месяц назад +1

    Driven the dragon many times since 2008. I always make one run at a conservative pace before making a return run back towards deals gap. I have almost come to the conclusion I can stay within 15 over on straights and hammer the turns and have a blast. But to each their own. I have noticed local law enforcement has established preferred spots for traffic enforcement. I have been on weekdays and never saw an officer. Also I’ve had V twin cruisers cross center line on multiple times in the tight decreasing radius turns. Beware of them. Beware of all bikes really. I Enjoyed the ride along.

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад

      We see patterns for where and when the road is patrolled. I like your advice about pace. That makes a lot of sense - and agree about the bikes. You can notice a very tight right hander in the video where a bike is leaning across the center line. Yikes!

  • @velvetjones1856
    @velvetjones1856 Месяц назад +2

    Have you tried AR 23 - the Pig Trail from I40 to Fayetteville. Crazy to do in the fall with trees in color.

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад

      Area looks good - 215, 103, 16 - would be a great area to explore for sure!

  • @mattjones6357
    @mattjones6357 Месяц назад +1

    Good lane discipline got to go for 3rd :)

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад +1

      A couple of visits to 3rd - in the middle of it - you just don’t realize or care that most of the road is second because you have to slow down and deal with the next corner before you have a chance to think too much.

  • @williammorris3334
    @williammorris3334 Месяц назад

    I live in Oconee County and the road to Highlands (28) is lightly traveled in the early morning and I very rarely see the popo. The NC stretch from the border to Highlands is brand new pavement and like glass. It’s only a 30 minute ride from Mountain Rest SC to Highlands NC but worth it. I drive it regularly in my 981 Boxster S. There’s a great breakfast cafe in Highlands called the Blue Bike Cafe. You’re welcome.

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад

      Great call! - we haven’t been to that stretch in years! Added it to the map as a future run.

  • @lenvillemeserve4285
    @lenvillemeserve4285 Месяц назад +3

    Psst Back of the Dragon speed limit 50 and drove it Saturday in June with hardly a soul on it. 😎

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад +1

      That’s a great road! Check out our review there! ruclips.net/video/_MXwPmB4prE/видео.htmlsi=V7pv5HAUlg2Xc4rg

    • @raymondchung3209
      @raymondchung3209 Месяц назад

      Sssssh 🤫

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад

      Come on - don’t want people to know? Keeping the fun all to yourself?

  • @CubanRider
    @CubanRider Месяц назад +2

    Ah, the old pavement. Good memories.

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад

      Nothing like the grooves where the rockers ground out the pavement! We can’t wait to try the new surface.

    • @BigEbikesports
      @BigEbikesports Месяц назад

      @CubanRider that is my buddy deputy Clyde Ingle I was telling you about. He's a really cool guy! We all play Smokey and the Bandit 🤘🤣

  • @bwest6275
    @bwest6275 Месяц назад +1

    There are a lot of excellent double yellow twisty mountain backroads up here in NorCal. However state troopers are abundant and do not give breaks. Many drivers see their cars impounded if going double the speed limit, which is too enticing to not do for most.

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад

      @@bwest6275 good to know - we are planning a trip out to CA at some point - and don’t want to lose the cars in the process of course. Maybe we could borrow yours instead? 😉

  • @slowcookedbolognese
    @slowcookedbolognese 2 дня назад

    I appreciate the videos and all the data you provide for us. I have some questions I am hoping to get answers for:
    1. How do you have a spirited driving when the speed limit (like in this video) is 30mph? I am not thinking about crazy fast speed but to stay under the speed limit, everyone would have to crawl down the road. Do people just driving over the speed limit and risk getting pulled over?
    2. Are there lot of cops on these backroads?
    3. Are the cops very strict/lenient on the speed?
    4. Do you think radar detectors are effective for avoiding the cops?
    5. Do you have any tips on enjoying these roads? (safety, avoiding cops etc)

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  2 дня назад +1

      @@slowcookedbolognese appreciate the comment. The best roads for the drives we enjoy are remote, no traffic, no drives or cross streets, and should be driven well within one’s limits. As for the risks you asked about, this video illustrates that radar detection isn’t always effective. As for the other questions, it really depends on the road and individuals driving. The best advice is to get out there and drive safely within your limits!

  • @alextulenko1746
    @alextulenko1746 Месяц назад

    check out the app gap up in vermont if you haven't already... before the snow arrives lol

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад

      We will check it out and add it to the map as a suggestion! We haven’t done it yet! Thanks!

  • @MarMPB
    @MarMPB Месяц назад

    Thanks for the video! Maybe you need to add another column on your score board! Something like “ Authorities Control”…😬

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад +1

      We are going to publish a document version of the full score sheet for all roads with a new notes column . . . in the notes, you might read about our opinion on that subject, safety related items, etc.

  • @gmund317
    @gmund317 Месяц назад +2

    Took my '24 CGTS on the Dragon and the Cherohala yesterday. Not a single cop...

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад

      Thursdays are highly recommended - and especially with good weather and mid month! How was the new pavement?

  • @deanparker7867
    @deanparker7867 Месяц назад +1

    I have been through there a few times in my S2000 and my GTR but not yet in my Turbo S or Cayman S but that speed trap would have been visible on Waze long before you actually saw them. It is crowd sourced and works especially great when car enthusiasts are present in numbers. Are you actually running these roads with no one having Waze up in their car???

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад

      We do run Waze / but there isn’t any signal in the area - maybe we need to go starlink?

  • @Somethingsomethinglol
    @Somethingsomethinglol Месяц назад +2

    great video! was anyone using a radar detector? i wonder if that could have given a heads up?

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад +2

      We did have a couple of detectors going although not the lead car. It did set off the K band but not soon enough!

  • @storcutt72
    @storcutt72 Месяц назад +1

    Stay off of the mustard!

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад +1

      Especially the spicy yellow mustard. Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @franciscochiriboga2268
    @franciscochiriboga2268 Месяц назад

    I would like to see a little more gear shifting, as going in second gear only results in a not so nice drone, despite that glorious six-cylinder symphony.

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад +1

      The Dragon is so winding that its hard to get out of the lower gears and also keep up if the car ahead is really pushing . . . To me, the top end of 2nd sounds great, but I also understand your comment. Perhaps the orchestration can be adjusted with some strategic gear shifts in the future. That's third level Dragon Riding stuff to take that into consideration!

  • @AndrewTa530
    @AndrewTa530 Месяц назад

    Push and pull with your hands

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад

      Definitely a debate we could have about the best steering technique in the twisty corners. You saw the 981 driver shuffling / (Push - pull), but the 718 driver staying at 9 and 3 on the wheel. Why do you like the push pull?

  • @crazeazn
    @crazeazn Месяц назад +3

    baby crap brown!!

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад

      BCB - if you don’t know that paint color - make sure to watch!

    • @kendamer1480
      @kendamer1480 Месяц назад

      😂 It’s one of the Paint to Sample options.

  • @justicepool
    @justicepool Месяц назад

    My favorite road of all time. I know a person that got a ticket for 77/30 in the same spot you got caught. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ It happens.

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks for commenting! What was that persons fine? Do you recall?

    • @justicepool
      @justicepool Месяц назад

      @@trueview3127 Took it to court and got it worked out, I think it cost $500

  • @Johnny_Utah187
    @Johnny_Utah187 Месяц назад

    The dragon is a tourist trap and a money trap. We keep the best driving roads to ourselves.

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад +1

      It does have a carnival atmosphere - what’s your fav? Your secret is safe with this crew!

    • @Johnny_Utah187
      @Johnny_Utah187 Месяц назад

      @@trueview3127 I live on Fort Mountain. It was always my favorite when I was younger. You can carry some real speed but it’s still very challenging. Real element of danger. Sheer drop offs. It keeps the adrenaline flowing. I drive it almost every day now. No cops to worry about.

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад +1

      Looks fantastic! Great road. Marked on the map as recommended!

  • @BillLee3
    @BillLee3 Месяц назад

    Your radar detector didn't help you at all? My GTS 4.0 has a custom installed radar detection and laser jamming system. You reckon it'd help in those twisties? Probably going up there in a week and a half.

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад +1

      K band was off in the GTS 4.0 but was on in the Cayman S following behind. He did have enough warning! Sounds like a great system in your car! make sure K band is on as well as Ka!

    • @jasperhorng7796
      @jasperhorng7796 Месяц назад

      Has your jammer system been tested? Just got an ALP system installed but untested and don't know if it'll JTG.

    • @BillLee3
      @BillLee3 Месяц назад

      @@jasperhorng7796 CarTunes in Atlanta tested it when they first installed it late last year. Hasn't gone off but once or twice. Supposedly manufacturer will pay the ticket (but not the insurance) so I'm hoping it works.

    • @BillLee3
      @BillLee3 Месяц назад

      @@jasperhorng7796 CarTunes in ATL tested it when they installed it late last year. Hope it's still working. Manufacturer guarantees price of the ticket so I assume it's still good.

    • @BillLee3
      @BillLee3 Месяц назад

      @@trueview3127 I have X turned off but everything else on. Probably more likely to drive the Cherohala Skyway anyway.

  • @mdub048
    @mdub048 Месяц назад +1

    I appreciate the videos, but it is really hard to watch the lead car cross the double yellow repeatedly. jmho.

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад

      Appreciate you watching! Thanks for the comment.

    • @kendamer1480
      @kendamer1480 Месяц назад

      I guess I’m not really seeing the double yellow crosses. I see him touching the double yellow a bit on right hand corner entry and at the apex of left-handers, but both situations are well sighted. Many many folks are much less disciplined.

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад

      @kendamer1480 got to watch the Cruisers who dip their heads into the lane

  • @deadlybladesmith3093
    @deadlybladesmith3093 Месяц назад

    Glad he let you off with a warning, but I don't like what he said about Porsches

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад +1

      We can’t say for sure here, but maybe he knew the cameras were rolling and was hoping the get the word out more broadly. Agree that all cars are individuals and shouldn’t be judged by their group identity - 😉

  • @lkearney7299
    @lkearney7299 Месяц назад +2

    What a pathetically low speed limit.

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад

      For most - it is tough to maintain that pace.

  • @hawaiirealmedia5610
    @hawaiirealmedia5610 Месяц назад

    No radar and no Waze? I don't get it.

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад

      Waze doesn’t work there - too remote - no signal - and the lead driver didn’t have a detector. The trailing cars did, but that was too late to warn the first guy! Thanks for watching.

  • @egosniper
    @egosniper Месяц назад +1

    Wouldnt a radar detector help?

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад +1

      For sure it would have . . . . make sure to have K band active. The GTS 4.0 had a detector with just Ka band running. The car following had K band active and the detector sounded for him.

    • @egosniper
      @egosniper Месяц назад

      @@trueview3127 good to know because I have almost muted K on my V1 several times but have not so far.

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад

      @egosniper don’t run into them often

  • @991carreras3
    @991carreras3 Месяц назад

    Twice i got pulled over on here a few yrs ago and i never went back cause your driving with the fear that cops are just around the next turn. Thats no way to have fun. There are better roads shorter ones but never any cops around Little Switzerland and others i wont mention i keep them tp myself.

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад

      Your secret will be safe with this crew!

    • @991carreras3
      @991carreras3 Месяц назад

      @@trueview3127 226a in Little Switzerland is a nice one the funny thing about this is theres a church right on the road and on sunday if you catchit as church is over the priest is the one in the roadway slowing you down but gives you a speed up thumbs up when passing.

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад

      I have also had the John Deere tractor pull out just in front of me on that road - had to brake hard . . . I really like 226a. Fantastic!

  • @mcgoo721
    @mcgoo721 Месяц назад

    Hey i got a buy one get one certificate for Gapplebee's i wanted to see if you were interested. Its good for one free dig race, 40 roll, or uphill of your choosing if equal or lesser value whats up

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад

      @@mcgoo721 Appreciate the comment but - being honest here - we push pretty hard sometimes, but aren’t going full out over 10/10ths almost ever. Ever run in a Hill Climb event?

    • @mcgoo721
      @mcgoo721 Месяц назад

      @@trueview3127 I was hoping you'd say something like "sure" and I was going to say "no I don't wanna I'm scared I don't want the smoke" 💀

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад

      @@mcgoo721 Should have played along then . . . 🙂

  • @rasmusansin3273
    @rasmusansin3273 Месяц назад +1

    40 km/h over the speed limit, and not only did you not lose your license, half of you didn't even get a ticket? America is wild!

    • @trueview3127
      @trueview3127  Месяц назад +1

      I think the lesson here is to count on being cited as it sounded like one normally would be. He’s a lucky guy. And yes America is Wild and Wonderful!

    • @gunterification
      @gunterification Месяц назад +2

      They set the speed limit really low.

  • @Aliens_Gonna_Get_Ya
    @Aliens_Gonna_Get_Ya Месяц назад +1

    Just so risky trying 2 drive hard on road… cops… idiot drivers… over-estimation of own abilities… track waaaaaaay better… 😊