I love how they broke the 4th wall in a way by making mention of the original Time Machine movie and the later Musical adaptation, yet clever enough made it seem like H.G. Wells's Time Machine and the character in this movie remain irrelevant with one another.
Well, none of the characters in the film are from the book... What most people tend to overlook is the fact that the 2002 movie is more inspired by the book rather than being a straight adaptation of it.
Henrijk Aardbei I like to think that this movie takes place in an alternate timeline where this movie was never made (which means both our comments never existed in that timeline)
@@DivineFalcon except the Eloi and Morlocks are near 1:1. Yes, the Eloi are less childlike and more akin to first nations, but the Morlocks are, as described in the book, pale, industrious, and monsterous. Though, their strange symbiotic relationship with the Eloi is more a hunt than deep dwelling monsters providing comfort in trade for the occasional kidnapping.
I love the part where Dr. Alexander attempts to look up time travel in the library by accessing its sub-components only for the assistant to catch on and say "Time Travel? Accessing science fiction". Apparently the good doctor didn't realize he was the ONLY one to invent time travel ;).
While he is dismissive of the notion for the most part, there is one instance at 2:11 where Dr. Alexander says, "No no...practical application" and the assistant adopts a look of interest. Of course, until Alex asks why one can't change the past. Then he becomes dismissive again.
@Deonex you are thinking of alternate timelines. If time travel were mastered and mare to exist then a starting point system would be made to your specific timeline to bungee back to its existence and not stay in the timeline that you newly created
Indeed, but I gotta say. Why does he look so short? I've always felt he was smaller and shorter than he should be in this movie and I just checked, he is a solid six feet tall and Guy Pearce is only five foot eight.
@@EdwardTCBlakeYears back Orlando Jones was the spokes person for a 7-Up advertising campaign that was hilarious IMO. In some of the commercials he wore a shirt that said “make 7” on the front and “up yours” on the back. They’re posted on youtube somewhere.
Catzilla we have informattion stored in this one computer in the U.S government ( Pentagon) that has all the information of everything . It's indestructible and can be uploaded even million years from now....Only problem is it needs a port to plug in 😶
Hum it can be uploded billions of years later in very specific circumstance. ( circumstance of the ageing test ) But we still don't know shit about it survivability in others ALL case.
@@kennymichaelalanya7134 I am not worried, when we finally ratfuck this planet and the meandering ebbs and flows consistent with history weather patterns assert themselves and our entire dominion frozen solid, the aliens from Stephen Spielberg's A.I. will locate our world and we will be immortalized as footnote fodder and alien conjecture in an extra terrestial history class. We may even become fodder for Alien Starbucks discussions on who the ANCIENT ALIENS that seeded us here were, and if we were even seeded at all, and so goes forward this universe of ours. endless question ad infinitum with few to no answers.
@@sphinxrising1129 Not really though. He's still alive. He put his own Cinderella version on stage in 2021 and also was involved in getting the "Cats" film produced.
@@ablazedguy I guess ironically he would be stealing the idea from this film, which is probably why we can be pretty sure such a show will never happen. It's neat to imagine.
It's nuts how accurate this scene is. Cause this is based on the year 2030, we're 7 years away. Right now Photonic technology was just invented and Chat GPT is the current AI of world knowledge and we're about to visit the moon again. Fun Fact the director of this movie is the Great Grandson of H.G Wells who wrote The Time Machine.
damn, and I thought it was a real musical there's a place called tomorrow... a place of joy ...not of sorrow... cant you see... its a place for you and me.
As a "third generation" photonic, 'he' is probably more intelligent than humans and only serves them because of unbreakable core programming. Rude and dismissive is probably as close as he can come to destroying all humans, lol
But... Aren't real librarians rude and dismissive? People tend to build their technology around social normalities which directly or indirectly dictate acceptable behaviors. Even Google and other search engines as well as most popular social media systems actively filter content and suggest streams of thought consistent with a given demographic, establishing and maintaining a sphere of relevance for each user. This avatar? Sad to say, is likely an accurate representation of where we're going. Especially with AI looming on the horizon.
Did you guys notice the Lion-Statue at the beginning of this clip? This is the same statue that appears in the book when Alexander travels to the 802,701 Eloi society. Nice detail touch there! Also, at the end, the "live, long and prosper" and the machine-powered door-opening swoosh sound is Star Trek reference.
Orlando Jones was my favorite character in this movie. My favorite part was the talk in the future, where he talks about remembering everything, and then brings up the query, Time travel, practical application. That was really cool.
I think my favorite part of that scene is where Alexander tried to convince Photonic to answer his question of “ why can’t one change the past?” And photonic with all of his accumulated knowledge of all information humans have acquired over its lifetime, could only give The one reasonable answer to such a hypothetical question is “ because one cannot travel into the past.” As if even in the future, time travel is impossible in practical physics.
According to the subtitle it's only the year 2037. Who knows, with the advancements in AI and the artemis program there will be such assistants and a moon colony by then.
Actually I do fault the writers here a bit. In the area of theoretical physics, the implications of time travel, and why one can't go back is a very serious question. Indeed Stephan Hawking even postulated that in a complete theory of quantum gravity there would have to be a 'causality protection postulate''. That is because modern GR as it is does allow for some solutions that permit time travel, with all of the causality breaking things that implies.
@@doltBmB Or, it'll be like Back To The Future and 2015, where we were suppose to have flying cars by then. Probably a good thing we don't have flying cars in 2023. Idiots can't drive while on the ground, imagine the chaos if you put them in the air.
It's a computer, and computers can't theorize. They can only report based on current understanding. At the time period he was in, time travel was still considered impossible by science. So the answer is based on that consensus.
Funny enough this movie came out in 2002, smart phones and cloud storage werent a thing yet. It's funny how movies that deal with the future come out, and by the the time the future catches up with it in some ways (usually smaller) real life is more advanced.
they used this idea in outer limits series in the 90's , everyone has had an implant in their brain and communicates with the network until the network collapsed due to a virus
No, they would not necessarily have smart phone or cloud storage. Also nothing states that he does not have cloud storage as his functions indicate he still might we'll have. Please do not be short sighted
@@KingreX32 That's because science and technology evolve exponentially. In fact, we had numerous technologies and tools at our disposal since 1970-ies to make structures and methods of production FAR more advanced compared to what we use even today... however, because we live in capitalism, 'cost efficiency' takes priority as opposed to technical efficiency, sustainability, and problem solving (which is one of the reasons that despite having science, technology and resources to build large scale projects in a small amount of time with automation isn't actually being done, because the artificial 'monetary cost' stands in the way).
The fact H. G. Wells was named as a fictional writer of "The Time Machine" in the film was just genius, given it was a work of fiction, but somehow, the fiction became reality for the good doctor, and then ended with a nice Star Trek nod with the LLAP, in which much time travel took place... :D
Such a wonderful futuristic scene.. The best part I like the most is.. Vox : The time machine was written by H.G. Wells in 1894, it was later adapted to a motion, picturised by George Pal and the stage musical by Andrew Loyld Webber, which were not found in many years. Alex : That's not what I mean. Vox : Would you like to hear a selections from the score? Alex : No
The kids with the portable devices "micro scans", an all glass iPad? That's one prediction of the future. Except maybe phones will become more utilized as mini computers in the future
Curiously, the concept of a "newspad" is about 50 years old, and was first shown in Stanley Kubrik's "2001: A space odyssey" …. ruclips.net/video/5T1UGfm_OMM/видео.html
That will never happen unless Ipads or similar devices would be cheap as a paper notebook. The government just will never have the budget for those in any timeline lol. It is a constant.
"There's a place called tomorrow... a place of joy...not of sorrow.. cant you see... its a place for you and me.... " That song was in my mind 20 years. I imagine Kang the Conqueror singing it. That and "Let's do the Time Warp again".
It's really weird to think about that we can literally build this today. Transparent screens are already a couple years old and if you combine chatGPT with a 3d human model -> library AI.
@mattyhodg1 Actually Vox NY-114's reference was sarcastic, referring to his insistence about time travel being possible. Like 'great, I have to deal with a nutball who thinks time travel is totally real' so he saw him off with a sarcastic 'Live long and prosper!' and then an eyeroll at him. Also the movie didn't reference itself, it referenced a previously-made movie and the book by H.G. Wells which this was all based off of, something I found clever.
What I love is how the librarian gives the scientific answer of the early 2000s, which was and still is that its impossible to be in the past. Vs the philosophical answer which is that if you changed the past, it would become the present, thus destroying every event that happened between the alteration and the moment you activated your time machine, everything would be annihilated. If that restructuring didnt completely rip the fabric of reality apart. Id be surprised.
That's assuming the multiverse theory on temporal mechanics is incorrect, and a time traveler isn't just jumping between two causality's at different points in their timeline. Theoretically, there could be a dimension of "anti-time" where the linear progression we experience in our currently occupied 4 dimensions is reversed. We just lack the the computational and Brain power to wrap our heads around how one might access other dimensions, let alone how we may survive accessing such a dimension.
Yeah, it annoys me a little because such a huge amount of theoretical and philosophical work has been written on "temporal paradox" that the library should have pulled that up and not gone huffy to science fiction.
I love the sound right after the PMC avatar says “Live long and prosper”. As he walks off the right of the screen we hear the “whoosh” of the door on the Enterprise lol.
+brylidan --> I rewatched this scene on DVD with subtitles turned on and he says, "chronography." Considering his question later on about why one can't change the past, I'm assuming he wants to know details about chronography to figure out why one can only slightly modify a chain of events in the past but not their ultimate outcome. In the movie he can change how his fiancé dies but cannot stop her dying.
Great scene. It showed how far everything is advanced and he believes that the advanced AI may have the answer he seeks about changing the events in the past
I thought this part was hilarious, but what I found problematic was that, if VOX is "a compendium of all human knowledge", why did he fail to recognize the picture in his PMC as that of the person standing in front of him, Alexander Hartdegen.
This movie has a lot of good stuff in it (be it as a reflection of the George Pal TTM, as it covers much of the same ground, or a real thoughtful take on the cause and effect of traveling in time). I think the only real problem I had was when Pierce goes 50K years into the future and it looks to be more like a few years.
I get a kick out the part at 2:50 when Alexander was asked by the library guy who asks if he wants to hear a score from the musical, Alexander says No and has to hear it anyway
The PMC lists The Time Machine by HG Wells. So.... there's a novel about the very story Alexander Hartigan is living through at that very moment. Either that's an extremely clunky meta reference, or it implies that Hartigan eventually manages to rebuild the time machine after the events of the movie, travels back to his time, and recounts his story to Wells. I know, I know... don't think about it too much.
Anyone heard what the teacher said ?? She said “Tommy, you do that again I will re-sequence your DNA so help me!” So in 2030s they figure out how to change DNA to make you a better human??
Ask for a Covid jab and get your dna modified right now. Why wait? Hurry while supplies last. It will definitely make you a better person. You’ll become heavenly.
Apparently in the future somebody discovered a gene that makes you not listen to your teacher and they have the ability to "resequence" it and remove it from your DNA. LOL
I can't believe it taken this much time, but now I see it. The character Alex missed a key detail VOX gave of Alex's "future", and so did I. Anyone catch the dates of Alex's life spoken by VOX? 1869 - 1903. Meaning Alex was 34 year old when he "died". Had Alex been paying attention, rather than argue, VOX just told Alex he never went back.
I wondered about that myself and then realized.... The year was 1903 when he left his own time. Everyone thought Alex had disappeared, and since he was never seen or heard from again, he was probably declared dead. Therefore 1903 was the year of his death. The only way he could have changed that was to go back to his own time and live out his life. If he had decided to use the time machine again later and not return to his own time, say in 1910, then that year would be his official year of death.
he should've travelled back into the past, write and publish a paper on his studies. invoke more interest in his area THEN travel forward in time to see the results. he should've taken a page out of that Einstein clerk and avoid playing with dice.
The fact that he couldn't find anything about practical applications of time travel at the library should have alerted him to the fact that at some point his invention would be destroyed and the human race would be unaware of his travels.
The main problem with this scene, aside from the meta references to the book, is that this globally connected encyclopedia chatbot can't reference Theoretical Physics papers. Time Travel may nit be possible but issues such as The Grandfather Paradox have been discussed at length.
Alexander didn't think to maybe leave some of his notes on the time machine behind in his laboratory? Ya know, so others could develop it themselves and understand the prospect of time travel well enough in the future for him to get his answer?
domidium In fact, NY-114 mentions that his notes about time travel were actually discovered after his disappearance about how to construct the time machine. People dismissed them as impossible and crazy. Since he was an obscure professor, it makes sense that even though his theories turned out to be true, they were never published and hence never expanded upon by later scientists.
even though this movie was filmed 12+ years ago, it got it right on the future of technology with glass, etc., I said to students that movies depicting the future in 70s/80s were wrong completely because they had no actual access; when all of the sudden we realized the internet blew the market by mid-1990s that we can now accurately predict future technology now since the early-2000s, we now know what we will be capable of in the coming 10 years and so on according to fast advances in technology thanks to the widespread use of the internet, child-birth internet use, and masses across the globe learning more languages.
EXOBOX123 Completely disagree. There's a difference between obvious iteration and the breakthroughs that will augur our standard of living. I'm kind of embarrassed that despite the internet most kids are dumb as sh*t. I used to hate Chemistry and Physics, now with sites like youtube and endless resources I can't comprehend why. I pictured a present day society where kids are like those Vulcans in pods filling their minds with wonderful info instead we have the same focus on entertainment and fashion.
I love how they broke the 4th wall in a way by making mention of the original Time Machine movie and the later Musical adaptation, yet clever enough made it seem like H.G. Wells's Time Machine and the character in this movie remain irrelevant with one another.
Well, none of the characters in the film are from the book... What most people tend to overlook is the fact that the 2002 movie is more inspired by the book rather than being a straight adaptation of it.
Henrijk Aardbei I like to think that this movie takes place in an alternate timeline where this movie was never made (which means both our comments never existed in that timeline)
@@DivineFalcon except the Eloi and Morlocks are near 1:1. Yes, the Eloi are less childlike and more akin to first nations, but the Morlocks are, as described in the book, pale, industrious, and monsterous. Though, their strange symbiotic relationship with the Eloi is more a hunt than deep dwelling monsters providing comfort in trade for the occasional kidnapping.
@@DivineFalcon original book version of Time Machine has both posthumans from year 800000 weaker and dumber than average person
@@Werewolf_Korra it's a subliminal
I love the part where Dr. Alexander attempts to look up time travel in the library by accessing its sub-components only for the assistant to catch on and say "Time Travel? Accessing science fiction". Apparently the good doctor didn't realize he was the ONLY one to invent time travel ;).
While he is dismissive of the notion for the most part, there is one instance at 2:11 where Dr. Alexander says, "No no...practical application" and the assistant adopts a look of interest. Of course, until Alex asks why one can't change the past. Then he becomes dismissive again.
Only to be surprised 800,000 years later when they meet again.
in the 1800's and no one finds anything on his work not a blueprint a diary or anything cause theres no record of the building of a time machine
If time travel were actually possible. The implications of such powerful accessibility would be beyond astronomically catastrophic
@Deonex you are thinking of alternate timelines. If time travel were mastered and mare to exist then a starting point system would be made to your specific timeline to bungee back to its existence and not stay in the timeline that you newly created
Orlando Jones really did wonders with such a small part. He's brilliant!
Indeed, but I gotta say. Why does he look so short? I've always felt he was smaller and shorter than he should be in this movie and I just checked, he is a solid six feet tall and Guy Pearce is only five foot eight.
@@EdwardTCBlake I think you've answered your own question
Make 7
Up Yours!
@@benjamindover8793 what?
@@EdwardTCBlakeYears back Orlando Jones was the spokes person for a 7-Up advertising campaign that was hilarious IMO. In some of the commercials he wore a shirt that said “make 7” on the front and “up yours” on the back. They’re posted on youtube somewhere.
I liked how Alexander said ‘no’ in the most polite way possible before the musical. It cracks me up! 😂
Good to know the ability to listen before speaking will still be lost on the technology of the future 😂
Later in the movie, we learn that 21st century computer tech can last 800,000 years. So that's nice.
Catzilla we have informattion stored in this one computer in the U.S government ( Pentagon) that has all the information of everything . It's indestructible and can be uploaded even million years from now....Only problem is it needs a port to plug in 😶
Hum it can be uploded billions of years later in very specific circumstance. ( circumstance of the ageing test )
But we still don't know shit about it survivability in others ALL case.
Catzilla BS, my computers couldn’t last more than 4 years!!!
@@kennymichaelalanya7134 I am not worried, when we finally ratfuck this planet and the meandering ebbs and flows consistent with history weather patterns assert themselves and our entire dominion frozen solid, the aliens from Stephen Spielberg's A.I. will locate our world and we will be immortalized as footnote fodder and alien conjecture in an extra terrestial history class. We may even become fodder for Alien Starbucks discussions on who the ANCIENT ALIENS that seeded us here were, and if we were even seeded at all, and so goes forward this universe of ours. endless question ad infinitum with few to no answers.
We also learned that someone from the 19th century with no knowledge of quantum mechanics or the theory of relativity can make a time machine.
After 18 years and I still want full version of this song.
YES! We need to pressure Andrew Lloyd Weber to really create the musical
@@Mystefier You will need a real time machine first, lol
@@sphinxrising1129 Not really though. He's still alive. He put his own Cinderella version on stage in 2021 and also was involved in getting the "Cats" film produced.
@Wade Hawkins yeah, but who would he steal from for this one?
@@ablazedguy I guess ironically he would be stealing the idea from this film, which is probably why we can be pretty sure such a show will never happen. It's neat to imagine.
It's nuts how accurate this scene is. Cause this is based on the year 2030, we're 7 years away. Right now Photonic technology was just invented and Chat GPT is the current AI of world knowledge and we're about to visit the moon again.
Fun Fact the director of this movie is the Great Grandson of H.G Wells who wrote The Time Machine.
Yes, it’s a fascinating time we live in!👍
What year did we blow up the moon ?
Just so I can prepare that's all 🤷
@@stickykitty 2037
Blowing up the moon will be a solution to the unix timestamp problem in 2038
" I am the Photonic Memory Core how can I help" -Yes where is the Slavery and White Colonialism section ?
Its 2021 and some of the visual effect in this film still looks impressive.
2023 now. Time has Travelled.
@@swanwaffle NO. No need to.
@@swanwaffle Yeah. Banging your head against a brick wall, and loving it, when you stop.
I love that ending comment @ 3:14 "I think I'll have better luck in a few hundred years", and that the computer doesn't pick up on it.
That’s probably because VOX-114 doesn’t think time travel is possible. VOX-114 should have seen the time machine.
I really want a full song of "There's A Place Called Tomorrow".
Me too
Same!
damn, and I thought it was a real musical
there's a place called tomorrow...
a place of joy ...not of sorrow...
cant you see... its a place for you and me.
I'm pissed off that he doesn't even get to finish the song.
Pretty sure he was going to end it with "... for you and me!"
God damn it...
I too
Orlando Jones absolutely steals the show whenever he’s onscreen here. 😁👍🏻
He's hilarious in Office Space. Doesn't play a major character but provides one of the funniest scenes in the movie
While this scene is amusing, I somehow doubt that a "digital librarian" would be programmed to be so rude and dismissive.
yea at least google doesnt judge me
As a "third generation" photonic, 'he' is probably more intelligent than humans and only serves them because of unbreakable core programming. Rude and dismissive is probably as close as he can come to destroying all humans, lol
But... Aren't real librarians rude and dismissive? People tend to build their technology around social normalities which directly or indirectly dictate acceptable behaviors. Even Google and other search engines as well as most popular social media systems actively filter content and suggest streams of thought consistent with a given demographic, establishing and maintaining a sphere of relevance for each user. This avatar? Sad to say, is likely an accurate representation of where we're going. Especially with AI looming on the horizon.
Aleatha Vogel
Well they had to make him compatible with New Yorkers somehow.
"Alexa whats the weather like?" *Why don't you look outside you miserable hack.* "Ahh technology, just like people now."
Did you guys notice the Lion-Statue at the beginning of this clip? This is the same statue that appears in the book when Alexander travels to the 802,701 Eloi society. Nice detail touch there! Also, at the end, the "live, long and prosper" and the machine-powered door-opening swoosh sound is Star Trek reference.
I don't remember anything about a lion statue in the book. I do remember something about a sphinx statue though.
Orlando Jones was my favorite character in this movie. My favorite part was the talk in the future, where he talks about remembering everything, and then brings up the query, Time travel, practical application. That was really cool.
I prefer Cyrano Jones.
I think my favorite part of that scene is where Alexander tried to convince Photonic to answer his question of “ why can’t one change the past?” And photonic with all of his accumulated knowledge of all information humans have acquired over its lifetime, could only give The one reasonable answer to such a hypothetical question is “ because one cannot travel into the past.” As if even in the future, time travel is impossible in practical physics.
According to the subtitle it's only the year 2037. Who knows, with the advancements in AI and the artemis program there will be such assistants and a moon colony by then.
@@doltBmB That moon colony didn't work out so well....
Actually I do fault the writers here a bit. In the area of theoretical physics, the implications of time travel, and why one can't go back is a very serious question. Indeed Stephan Hawking even postulated that in a complete theory of quantum gravity there would have to be a 'causality protection postulate''. That is because modern GR as it is does allow for some solutions that permit time travel, with all of the causality breaking things that implies.
@@doltBmB Or, it'll be like Back To The Future and 2015, where we were suppose to have flying cars by then.
Probably a good thing we don't have flying cars in 2023. Idiots can't drive while on the ground, imagine the chaos if you put them in the air.
It's a computer, and computers can't theorize. They can only report based on current understanding. At the time period he was in, time travel was still considered impossible by science. So the answer is based on that consensus.
In real life, his photonic memory core would've been uploaded to the cloud for anybody to access on their smartphone.
Funny enough this movie came out in 2002, smart phones and cloud storage werent a thing yet.
It's funny how movies that deal with the future come out, and by the the time the future catches up with it in some ways (usually smaller) real life is more advanced.
they used this idea in outer limits series in the 90's , everyone has had an implant in their brain and communicates with the network until the network collapsed due to a virus
So he’s black vision? Or Jarvis
No, they would not necessarily have smart phone or cloud storage. Also nothing states that he does not have cloud storage as his functions indicate he still might we'll have. Please do not be short sighted
@@KingreX32 That's because science and technology evolve exponentially.
In fact, we had numerous technologies and tools at our disposal since 1970-ies to make structures and methods of production FAR more advanced compared to what we use even today... however, because we live in capitalism, 'cost efficiency' takes priority as opposed to technical efficiency, sustainability, and problem solving (which is one of the reasons that despite having science, technology and resources to build large scale projects in a small amount of time with automation isn't actually being done, because the artificial 'monetary cost' stands in the way).
The fact H. G. Wells was named as a fictional writer of "The Time Machine" in the film was just genius, given it was a work of fiction, but somehow, the fiction became reality for the good doctor, and then ended with a nice Star Trek nod with the LLAP, in which much time travel took place... :D
not to forget the sound of the sliding doors opening from the original series ;-)
Such a wonderful futuristic scene..
The best part I like the most is..
Vox : The time machine was written by H.G. Wells in 1894, it was later adapted to a motion, picturised by George Pal and the stage musical by Andrew Loyld Webber, which were not found in many years.
Alex : That's not what I mean.
Vox : Would you like to hear a selections from the score?
Alex : No
"Tommy, if you do that again I will resequence your DNA so help me!"
Apparently that started in 2021 with the mRNA Covid vaccines.
@@lacidy more like gene editing.
@@lacidy God is a paedophile
This movie predicted ChatGPT 😂
The kids with the portable devices "micro scans", an all glass iPad? That's one prediction of the future. Except maybe phones will become more utilized as mini computers in the future
Curiously, the concept of a "newspad" is about 50 years old, and was first shown in
Stanley Kubrik's "2001: A space odyssey" …. ruclips.net/video/5T1UGfm_OMM/видео.html
It’s transparent aluminum.
They already are lmao
That will never happen unless Ipads or similar devices would be cheap as a paper notebook. The government just will never have the budget for those in any timeline lol. It is a constant.
Yup came from the future to say this is true
"There's a place called tomorrow...
a place of joy...not of sorrow..
cant you see... its a place for you and me.... "
That song was in my mind 20 years.
I imagine Kang the Conqueror singing it. That and "Let's do the Time Warp again".
2:04
Vox: Time travel?
Alexander: Yes!
Vox: Accessing science fiction.
Velocity time dilation: Am I a joke to you?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_dilation
Forward time travel is also known as *waiting.*
Time dilation is just _advanced_ waiting.
It's really weird to think about that we can literally build this today.
Transparent screens are already a couple years old and if you combine chatGPT with a 3d human model -> library AI.
Bingo
"a place of joy....not of sorrow."
That was really intense and sounded so perfect. It should have been a full song ;__;
What the name of song i can't find?
sadly it doesn't exist.... it was meant to be a joke how Andrew Loyd Webber would make a musical about a time machine
godsBane266
And Mr. Scheffield probably passed on it just like Cats and Hair. Lol
It's not a great reinterpretation of the book in a lot of ways, but I will admit this AI guy was a fun addition to the lore.
@mattyhodg1
Actually Vox NY-114's reference was sarcastic, referring to his insistence about time travel being possible. Like 'great, I have to deal with a nutball who thinks time travel is totally real' so he saw him off with a sarcastic 'Live long and prosper!' and then an eyeroll at him.
Also the movie didn't reference itself, it referenced a previously-made movie and the book by H.G. Wells which this was all based off of, something I found clever.
And he did it wrong at the end, the thumb should have been extended... but maybe that was deliberate
that AI can copy the schematics of his time machine even the formulas if only he showed it to AI adding it to its system.
I love how the "microscans" are basically i-pads. XD
And here I've been thinking all this time that the song at the end was actually real 😔
maybe in 15 years
Isn't it real? Really? It's awesome despite of I only listen 8 seconds. I come here to find the that song ;(.
live long and prosper loved that part lol
Chronography - The measurement and charting of time
What I love is how the librarian gives the scientific answer of the early 2000s, which was and still is that its impossible to be in the past. Vs the philosophical answer which is that if you changed the past, it would become the present, thus destroying every event that happened between the alteration and the moment you activated your time machine, everything would be annihilated. If that restructuring didnt completely rip the fabric of reality apart. Id be surprised.
You'd be dead lol not surprised
That's assuming the multiverse theory on temporal mechanics is incorrect, and a time traveler isn't just jumping between two causality's at different points in their timeline. Theoretically, there could be a dimension of "anti-time" where the linear progression we experience in our currently occupied 4 dimensions is reversed. We just lack the the computational and Brain power to wrap our heads around how one might access other dimensions, let alone how we may survive accessing such a dimension.
Yeah, it annoys me a little because such a huge amount of theoretical and philosophical work has been written on "temporal paradox" that the library should have pulled that up and not gone huffy to science fiction.
@@jmackmcneill They went for comedy, which was easier.
I love that song he starts to sing!! I wish there was more!!!
I love the sound right after the PMC avatar says “Live long and prosper”. As he walks off the right of the screen we hear the “whoosh” of the door on the Enterprise lol.
*VOX:* How may I help you?
*Guy:* Um...can I have a 7-Up?
*VOX:* (rolls eyes)
I dig the little nod to Star Trek at the end of that scene. 🖖🙂
Siri and Wikipedia had a baby.
They were shocked to see it was black.
Gumboot Zone oh boy..... 🙄
@@GumbootZone Looks like Alexa has to explain that.
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Its cruel that humans would design an AI that's able to be annoyed/exasperated at people, then force him to ignore those feelings to do his job well
1:59 he said pornography ?
+brylidan That's what I thought at first too! ;-) I think he says farinography or something similar.
+brylidan He says Chronography.
Chronography: -obsolete- the recording or study of past events.
+barchetta575m Thanks!
LOL I always thought that too since I first saw this at age 13 xD
+brylidan --> I rewatched this scene on DVD with subtitles turned on and he says, "chronography." Considering his question later on about why one can't change the past, I'm assuming he wants to know details about chronography to figure out why one can only slightly modify a chain of events in the past but not their ultimate outcome. In the movie he can change how his fiancé dies but cannot stop her dying.
Dude, Orlando Jones Man, that guy is so talented!!
"The Most Interesting Man in the World... He doesn't time travel, time travels to him."
---Albert Einstein
'Tommy, if you do that again, I will re-sequence your DNA..." I thought my teachers were strict...
what a sassy AI
The EMH Doctor from Voyager would fuck his shit up, plus, mobile emitter.
KH4444444444N no it wouldn’t
Great scene. It showed how far everything is advanced and he believes that the advanced AI may have the answer he seeks about changing the events in the past
I am still waiting for that Andrew Lloyd Webber Musical
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Lloyd_Webber
He's from a time where he would partially understand what a hologram is. The science of the late 1800s could almost comprehend how it would work.
I thought this part was hilarious, but what I found problematic was that, if VOX is "a compendium of all human knowledge", why did he fail to recognize the picture in his PMC as that of the person standing in front of him, Alexander Hartdegen.
Because Alexander Hartdengen died. Running a face recognition program would not be logical
That and it will dismiss his image as a coincidence and they can’t get any DNA records to match him to the past as it wasn’t done until the 1900s
Perhaps there were not any photographs of Hartdegen that survived or no one decided to scan his image.
I love 3:00-3:03, that chorus unity. So beautiful.
3:03
Those chords are heavenly. The lower harmony especially, combined with the thin vibrato of one of the higher vocals, tickles my ears.
this character is my favorite part of the movie, very creative modern adaptation of h.g. wells "rings"
Frank Lloyd Webber is going to write a Time Machine Musical? WHERE CAN I BUY ADVANCE TICKETS?!
"Please make sure your microscans are charged for downloads" 😂
Lmao that future prediction aged like spoiled milk💀
The kids have conceptual tablets.
i want more of the sooonnnggg!
Loved the references to George Pal and Dr. Asimov.
This movie goes along with what's happening today
Ugh, memories of the books and how sad it becomes
The “live long and prosper” eye roll at the end always gets me. 😂
This movie has a lot of good stuff in it (be it as a reflection of the George Pal TTM, as it covers much of the same ground, or a real thoughtful take on the cause and effect of traveling in time). I think the only real problem I had was when Pierce goes 50K years into the future and it looks to be more like a few years.
I get a kick out the part at 2:50 when Alexander was asked by the library guy who asks if he wants to hear a score from the musical, Alexander says No and has to hear it anyway
I love this version.
Beautiful movie
Accessing hg wells lol
George Washington Just an artist... *ironic?
If my computer has a sassy attitude like that, i will spit my coffee out. Right onto his motherboard.
I want a Librarian like this now
Alexa is the first step towards one.
With this library program I think of the chatbot gpt it's amazing
Orlando was so amazing in this scene.
The PMC lists The Time Machine by HG Wells. So.... there's a novel about the very story Alexander Hartigan is living through at that very moment. Either that's an extremely clunky meta reference, or it implies that Hartigan eventually manages to rebuild the time machine after the events of the movie, travels back to his time, and recounts his story to Wells.
I know, I know... don't think about it too much.
The not too distant future of ChatGPT
I can't believe this movie came out 15 years ago
You wrote this comment 4 years ago, so 20 years and counting.. It's been a great run so far!
love this movie
This scene/movie is a core memory from my childhood
My dad took me to see this film when I was a kid.
Loved it.
I think it's pretty funny how he reacts when shown his own documents
Every time I play with ChatGPT, I often think of this scene
Hope one day it will sing a song like this😂
Love this scene
my favorite scene
Anyone heard what the teacher said ?? She said “Tommy, you do that again I will re-sequence your DNA so help me!”
So in 2030s they figure out how to change DNA to make you a better human??
Ask for a Covid jab and get your dna modified right now. Why wait? Hurry while supplies last. It will definitely make you a better person. You’ll become heavenly.
Apparently in the future somebody discovered a gene that makes you not listen to your teacher and they have the ability to "resequence" it and remove it from your DNA. LOL
@@ThePlaton20 ... and, despite that, they choose not to xD.
does anyone else here have the thought of being the one sitting in the time machine instead of him or with him?:D just to travel in time aswell lol
I can't believe it taken this much time, but now I see it. The character Alex missed a key detail VOX gave of Alex's "future", and so did I. Anyone catch the dates of Alex's life spoken by VOX? 1869 - 1903. Meaning Alex was 34 year old when he "died".
Had Alex been paying attention, rather than argue, VOX just told Alex he never went back.
I wondered about that myself and then realized.... The year was 1903 when he left his own time. Everyone thought Alex had disappeared, and since he was never seen or heard from again, he was probably declared dead. Therefore 1903 was the year of his death. The only way he could have changed that was to go back to his own time and live out his life. If he had decided to use the time machine again later and not return to his own time, say in 1910, then that year would be his official year of death.
"Would you like to hear selections from the score?"
"No."
*starts singing anyway*
1:55 "Mechanical engineering, dimensional optics, pornography" - the 3 great branches of physics.
Chronography.
@@greevar I know what I heard
He had access to all that humanity has ever created. Frankly, I'm surprised he named pornography that late :P.
In the future we will all dress similarly in plain, monochromatic outfits - that's always been the way it's shown in the movies. Well, nearly always.
H.G Wells deseve better respect.....and that 3d image has a attitude problem
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he should've travelled back into the past, write and publish a paper on his studies. invoke more interest in his area THEN travel forward in time to see the results. he should've taken a page out of that Einstein clerk and avoid playing with dice.
This was a really good movie.
I like that he sarcastic. Not just a over friendly guide.
The fact that he couldn't find anything about practical applications of time travel at the library should have alerted him to the fact that at some point his invention would be destroyed and the human race would be unaware of his travels.
Kind of amazing how we have those devices that the students are holding now, they look similar to tablets.
Microscans?
That's the closest from an iPad
This will be Chat GPT very soon.
The main problem with this scene, aside from the meta references to the book, is that this globally connected encyclopedia chatbot can't reference Theoretical Physics papers.
Time Travel may nit be possible but issues such as The Grandfather Paradox have been discussed at length.
Alexander didn't think to maybe leave some of his notes on the time machine behind in his laboratory? Ya know, so others could develop it themselves and understand the prospect of time travel well enough in the future for him to get his answer?
Alexander was considered a crackpot even BEFORE his girlfriend's death, so his notes would just be dismissed as the ramblings of a madman.
Still, it would be something.
domidium In fact, NY-114 mentions that his notes about time travel were actually discovered after his disappearance about how to construct the time machine. People dismissed them as impossible and crazy. Since he was an obscure professor, it makes sense that even though his theories turned out to be true, they were never published and hence never expanded upon by later scientists.
Well that's...sad.
That much knowledge shouldn't be freely explored especially by crooked scientists
That AI wasn't as smart as he thought... he performed the Vulcan salute improperly, thumb in.
Love the song "There is A place called tomorrow" why i can't find the whole song? :-(
Not a real song apparently. Andrew Webber didn't make a musical of The Time Machine.
Why does the future always feature Naru jackets? This has been the predicted style since the 1960s and I have yet to see anyone trading that way.
Because only fictional people would wear one.
I like the Spock and sound of Enterprise door open
Actually physicists came up with a lot of theoretical stuff about time travel. It's strange they didn't refer to Hawking for example.
Yeah, we're about here now....the librarian was an optimized ChatGPT 🤣
Yes, teacher please resequence Thomas' DNA.
I think the special effects from 1:55 - 2:03 sound pretty cool and futuristic.
even though this movie was filmed 12+ years ago, it got it right on the future of technology with glass, etc., I said to students that movies depicting the future in 70s/80s were wrong completely because they had no actual access; when all of the sudden we realized the internet blew the market by mid-1990s that we can now accurately predict future technology now since the early-2000s, we now know what we will be capable of in the coming 10 years and so on according to fast advances in technology thanks to the widespread use of the internet, child-birth internet use, and masses across the globe learning more languages.
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EXOBOX123 Completely disagree. There's a difference between obvious iteration and the breakthroughs that will augur our standard of living. I'm kind of embarrassed that despite the internet most kids are dumb as sh*t. I used to hate Chemistry and Physics, now with sites like youtube and endless resources I can't comprehend why. I pictured a present day society where kids are like those Vulcans in pods filling their minds with wonderful info instead we have the same focus on entertainment and fashion.
retrofuturism. the future without internet lol.
someone stealing and being arrested in the street in Irobot and nobody grabs his phone lol