I think current vocal anti immigrant sentiment in Ireland must challenge long held romantic notions of 'irishness'. Particularly Irish solidarity with oppressed groups and migration as a legitimate endeavour. I am interested in how this is reconciled and how it affects personal and national identity.
Still waiting on those humanitarians Bono and Bob to call out injustice towards women and children of Palestine. They are normally first but I haven't heard a word from them yet.
Im still waiting for the rapper Lowkey to condemn Hamas as well as the IDF and Netanyahu. And I condemn all of them. It would be interesting what the reaction would be if this artist said F Netanyahu and Hamas!
@@rjflores438 That's a bit like the school bully putting a kid in hospital with broken bones, but you want the victim to be be condemned too for landing one weak punch.
The British rock outfit IDOLS is also Free Palestine at their shows and Concerts and are far from being mainstream celebrities and so is Fontaines D.C.
I'd love for Brits to shut up about Irish people, Fontaines have not just started to support Palestine like. "I love you" is about the issues Ireland faces in terms of young people leaving and dying. They've been on the ISPC's list of artists for Palestine since at least 2021.
I think Helena should look into Fontaines history and their lyrics before assuming they are just “celebrity activist”. They are a very political band and could absolutely be the face of the campaign to liberate Palestine
Helena's talking more about how it could be perceived, I don't think she's dismissing them as "just celebrity activists" I think she's overblowing that point for the record, as she said herself that there is decent public consensus in favour of ceasefire/arms embargo etc
She said they are needed but go be cautious placing too much confidence in celebrities. Something completely aligned with normal leftist thinking. Remember that insanely cringe Imagine copy headed by Gal Gadot? I find that example relatively.
People feel strongly about whats happening in Gaza. Its a holocaust and so shocking and therefore nothing wrong with people showing support to Palestinians. Any speech from celebrities should be welcomed whether it works or not to STOP GENOCIDE!!
The point about celebrity 'endorsement' and it's impact on British liberals didn't fully make sense here considering the examples were two Irish people and a Scottish person. Always a bit of a blind spot for Novara outside of England. I think most Irish folks see speaking on Palestine as a duty, most of us grew up with at least some knowledge of the 'conflict' and both Fontaines DC and Sally Rooney are political in their art, Rooney has called herself a socialist. Anyway, Mayo 4 Sam!
sometimes a human being can only speaks up when the cup is full. i don't think you are right Helena. He is siding with the under dog in this scenario. and he risks negative repercussions for his career. so i don't think the guy tries to do some PR or something. heck sometimes one just needs to vent.
I think Helena's 'ick' or concern is a bit over torqued because of how we've seen celebrities co-opt movements in the past. While expressing her concern she talks about how there's broad based public support on this issue. Ordinary people of good faith are not going to get turned off by seeing celebs speak up imo. If anything else I think it's more likely relief that celebs are finally speaking at all on this issue (it's been largely crickets the past year) and doubly so in important rooms in front of complicit actors. Much like the Tate prize winner did. Anyhoo. Those are my 2 cents.
I feel like you are looking at Irish celebrities through a British lens... an ironically colonial view. The Fontaines and Sally Rooney are very much reflecting the views of the average person in Ireland.
There is an enormous chasm between "celebrities" bandwaggoning a cause versus the musicians such as Lowkey and Macklemore. If it hadn't been for artists like Neal Young, John Lennon and CCR, the Vietnam War would have dragged on much longer.
Helena.... Dear lord you're so off the mark here! Every person that uses a platform to speak out is giving others strength to do the same. What these artists are doing is extremely brave and should be commended for that. No further comment needed.
This musician has done something brave and consequential, so in fact, that it seemingly scared your guest into a shameful critique, that has nothing to do with this act.
Creative minds are often capable to imagine another manifestation of our current reality before our collective humanity reaches the tipping point where change happens and is welcomed by all!
I think while though 'celebrity activists' can be detrimental to a cause sometimes, the 'Free Palestine/arms embargo now' movement is a grassroots, popular movement that is led by people on the ground and is now gaining more and more high profile support, which we wholeheartedly welcome.
Those in positions of priviledge due to their cultural relevance / connection to the populace absolutely need to use their voice - what twaddle is she speaking!
I do think these celebrity voices in the establishment climate as it stands today are very brave. I hope standing up for Palestinian human rights and humanity doesn't require bravery soon but it still does now and so that bravery deserves admiration and appreciation so that more will feel brave enough until bravery isn't needed.
I think this commentary is BS. There isn't backlash against celebrities giving their opinion generally. People just dont like it when famous people have opinions they dont happen to agree with. The children in need analogy doenst work as she says herself since money isnt a solution to a political problem.
Fontaines DC have actually contributed , for example collaborating with others (Massive Attack) on a single specifically to raise money for MSF. How does she know what else has been raised? Her comments are quite patronising and dismissive
Helena , " F. Nethenaytu " is much easier to understand than your analysis. I'm an educated person and I couldn't understand you, so 90 per cent of people won't understand you. So you have no audience.
The car,....well, maybe I'm just not clever enough to understand it; but top marks to both of those brave people for speaking out. Nobody can say that the Gaza genocide is NOT part of zionism, because it clearly, absolutely is. Don't discourage "celebreties" from calling I3raell out,....why the hell shouldn't they. Helena is talking arrant nonsense!....She seems to be saying that the situation is SO importanmt that we ought not to speak about it. She's weirdly confused. It isn't "a smart point".
poor lass was well anxious but she got the point across and we stand behind her! If anything it's the first time I have or would have heard of this artist so rather than risk her career it did the opposite. bravo
Fundamental difference between the Kamala celebrity endorsements and this are: With Kamala they were endorsing the establishment while Fontaines stance is counter to the establishment nsrrative.
We had Russell brand and Charlotte church 10 years ago in the peoples assembly against austerity, the trouble is they move on and have other views years later. It needs to be broad based.
@@S-Ltd1000 It is about creativity and being different. If humans beings stop being creative, we will be replaced by AI very soon. In fact, AIs have becoming very creative lately.
All started with the unmade bed. Now you just need to stick any old junk in the Tate, link it to a political cause or oppressed people. Bingo, best art all year. It's all so stale.
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Brave people swimming in a sea of cowards !
like Helena with her commentary
The liberal inside her had to say something😂@@garaznisokak4295
@@garaznisokak4295 She's trying to be the cleverest person in the room here, just needs to shout f zionism.
Goodbye Radiohead hello Fontaines DC!
Brave people swimming in a sea of red flags!
We Irish don’t mince our words.
I love you for that 💜🌱
Exactly 💯
Lol, there's plenty of reasons they're my favourite Europeans. I visited Ireland before, such a beautiful country
@@petefraser3013 thank you 🙏💪
I think current vocal anti immigrant sentiment in Ireland must challenge long held romantic notions of 'irishness'. Particularly Irish solidarity with oppressed groups and migration as a legitimate endeavour. I am interested in how this is reconciled and how it affects personal and national identity.
Love the Fontaines already but love them even more now!!
Pathetic.
@@NoWindNoSunNoPower you are
Went to their lisbon show, they had a palestine flag up and yelled Free Palestine, they're awesome
One of the Bravest men in these dark disgusting times
Not a patch on Salman Rushdie.
@@sabine1470how brave to slag off Islam. As if every mainstream media newspaper and outlet hasn’t done it for decades without reproach .
As an Irish person, it is only right and proper to see my fellow country people speaking up for Palestine.
What is Palestine?
@ What is Israel?
@@TheWaveSon pallywood
Still waiting on those humanitarians Bono and Bob to call out injustice towards women and children of Palestine.
They are normally first but I haven't heard a word from them yet.
😂 Bono won't risk his contracts...plus the buffoon did some performative nonsense when Navalny died. It was cringe that it made me almost 🤢🤮
Bono doesn't know what he is talking about, he still hasn't found what he's looking for.
Im still waiting for the rapper Lowkey to condemn Hamas as well as the IDF and Netanyahu. And I condemn all of them. It would be interesting what the reaction would be if this artist said F Netanyahu and Hamas!
@@rjflores438 That's a bit like the school bully putting a kid in hospital with broken bones, but you want the victim to be be condemned too for landing one weak punch.
@@rjflores438 Finally spotted the Hasbara 😂 You condemn Mileikowsky but not the Israeli state 😆 Nice try bozo!
I was not draw to Fontaines DC ...but now I am A BIG FAN
The Fontaines DC track "Favorite" is my song of the year along with The Cure's "Endsong"
Love Fontaines dc. Being vocal on this, and other topics, is definitely on brand.
and the guy (the singer I assume) looks good doing it 😍
🇮🇪🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇮🇪✅
FREE PALESTINE...FREE LEBANON...
From Islam?
From z "democracy" @@TaylorDanson
From terror
@@TheWaveSon that's what I said... stop copying.
@@7dtdfil730 keep your brainwash to yourself Mr. TikTok knowledge 😂
Thank you from Mexico 🇲🇽
Please do a report on the band Kneecap. They also used their platform recently to stand up for Palestine
The British rock outfit IDOLS is also Free Palestine at their shows and Concerts and are far from being mainstream celebrities and so is Fontaines D.C.
There is an episode about Kneecap on Novara already🤩
@@europainvicta3907 kneecap kneecap!
@@daymeeedababy IDLES, tho 👍
100% Kneecap is a fantastic band with wonderful values. 🇮🇪 Standing up for the oppressed. 💚
🇵🇸 🇵🇸 🇵🇸 🇵🇸 🇵🇸 🇵🇸 🇵🇸 🇵🇸 FOR EVER
Congratulations to these artists on their success & a huge thank you for speaking up for those whose voices have been silenced 👏
I'd love for Brits to shut up about Irish people, Fontaines have not just started to support Palestine like. "I love you" is about the issues Ireland faces in terms of young people leaving and dying.
They've been on the ISPC's list of artists for Palestine since at least 2021.
I think Helena should look into Fontaines history and their lyrics before assuming they are just “celebrity activist”.
They are a very political band and could absolutely be the face of the campaign to liberate Palestine
They are from Dublin, of course they don't agree with the British because of their own history. I agree with them 100% even though I'm English.
it shouldn't be a surprise that a punk (post-punk) band is being punk.
Helena's talking more about how it could be perceived, I don't think she's dismissing them as "just celebrity activists"
I think she's overblowing that point for the record, as she said herself that there is decent public consensus in favour of ceasefire/arms embargo etc
@@jamielockdown It was a poor talking point. What's the alternative? Should Fontaine have said nothing?
She said they are needed but go be cautious placing too much confidence in celebrities. Something completely aligned with normal leftist thinking. Remember that insanely cringe Imagine copy headed by Gal Gadot? I find that example relatively.
People feel strongly about whats happening in Gaza. Its a holocaust and so shocking and therefore nothing wrong with people showing support to Palestinians. Any speech from celebrities should be welcomed whether it works or not to STOP GENOCIDE!!
Stop the G side.
Israel has the right to defend itself against Irish rock bands with a conscience.
LOL
yep you win the comment section comrade lmfao
They've no right whatsoever to defend themselves.
😂
@@Craig121000Twas a joke mate
I keep getting warnings for disrespecting 'community guidelines' but Im not changing my approach. Netanyahu is a ghoul.
Well done Fontaines
I'm a new fan. Free Palestine....
The point about celebrity 'endorsement' and it's impact on British liberals didn't fully make sense here considering the examples were two Irish people and a Scottish person. Always a bit of a blind spot for Novara outside of England. I think most Irish folks see speaking on Palestine as a duty, most of us grew up with at least some knowledge of the 'conflict' and both Fontaines DC and Sally Rooney are political in their art, Rooney has called herself a socialist. Anyway, Mayo 4 Sam!
No sam for mayo I left 😅
Great stuff! All good for you.
1310 signatories minus Thom Yorke.
Let Down...again
@@StratsRUs Used to feel good about the idea that Radiohead would be a real historical band. But now, I'd be fine if they trailed into obscurity.
Radiodead....kids
@@weatheranddarkness Agree. I can't listen to them anymore, and I love a fair few songs they made.
Bless them
Thank you
sometimes a human being can only speaks up when the cup is full. i don't think you are right Helena. He is siding with the under dog in this scenario. and he risks negative repercussions for his career. so i don't think the guy tries to do some PR or something. heck sometimes one just needs to vent.
I think Helena's 'ick' or concern is a bit over torqued because of how we've seen celebrities co-opt movements in the past. While expressing her concern she talks about how there's broad based public support on this issue. Ordinary people of good faith are not going to get turned off by seeing celebs speak up imo. If anything else I think it's more likely relief that celebs are finally speaking at all on this issue (it's been largely crickets the past year) and doubly so in important rooms in front of complicit actors. Much like the Tate prize winner did. Anyhoo. Those are my 2 cents.
I feel like you are looking at Irish celebrities through a British lens... an ironically colonial view.
The Fontaines and Sally Rooney are very much reflecting the views of the average person in Ireland.
fontaines dc are one of the best bands going at the moment and this confirms it
There is an enormous chasm between "celebrities" bandwaggoning a cause versus the musicians such as Lowkey and Macklemore. If it hadn't been for artists like Neal Young, John Lennon and CCR, the Vietnam War would have dragged on much longer.
Thank you to these brave people ✌️🇵🇸
Fontaines DC spoke for me .
Well done to all the winners. As for their speeches, I couldn’t put it better myself.
Free Palestine
Helena.... Dear lord you're so off the mark here! Every person that uses a platform to speak out is giving others strength to do the same. What these artists are doing is extremely brave and should be commended for that. No further comment needed.
Such times bad time, that a simple sentence is considered brave and heroic.
Interesting, thank you for the recommandation of artists with a conscience. I'll listen to their music.
It’s important for celebs to speak out so we can transfer our support (& money) to them and away from the silent ones.
Thank you ❤
I love this guy.....said exactly my thoughts...I ♥️🇯🇴
This musician has done something brave and consequential, so in fact, that it seemingly scared your guest into a shameful critique, that has nothing to do with this act.
@@вештачкиинтелигентан you missed out stunning.
Right on!
Creative minds are often capable to imagine another manifestation of our current reality before our collective humanity reaches the tipping point where change happens and is welcomed by all!
Free Palestine.
Smart points, both of you.
I am looking at the comments thinking "what are these people on about?"
"She's Scottish, not Irish".
I support ANYONE supporting Palestine 🇵🇸
Saying nothing is just as bad. I salute them for speaking up
...wow!! RESPECT!
I think while though 'celebrity activists' can be detrimental to a cause sometimes, the 'Free Palestine/arms embargo now' movement is a grassroots, popular movement that is led by people on the ground and is now gaining more and more high profile support, which we wholeheartedly welcome.
Great report
Those in positions of priviledge due to their cultural relevance / connection to the populace absolutely need to use their voice - what twaddle is she speaking!
Now that "Rocks"!!!
Free Palestine 🇵🇸 Free Lebanon
I do think these celebrity voices in the establishment climate as it stands today are very brave. I hope standing up for Palestinian human rights and humanity doesn't require bravery soon but it still does now and so that bravery deserves admiration and appreciation so that more will feel brave enough until bravery isn't needed.
just saw fontaines dc last night! very pleasant surprise to see this video
strong two words✌
I support her and her stance 💯 % good for her on a big stage
Love the Irish. 🫡
Always loved Fontaines DC and they've just gone up in my estimation even further - bravo!
I think this commentary is BS. There isn't backlash against celebrities giving their opinion generally. People just dont like it when famous people have opinions they dont happen to agree with. The children in need analogy doenst work as she says herself since money isnt a solution to a political problem.
FZ. Love it.
FREE PALESTINE 🇵🇸 ♥️ 🏴
Life is inherently political in all respects. Without life, and lives, there is no politics.
Good on him
Old car with a doily on it, and half empty Irn Bru bottles? Rubbish (literally!) art. Great speech.
Some people cannot be bought by AIPAC
Fontaines DC have actually contributed , for example collaborating with others (Massive Attack) on a single specifically to raise money for MSF. How does she know what else has been raised? Her comments are quite patronising and dismissive
Brits never not at it
No personality she wouldn't call bibi out like that
Ireland stands with Palestine ❤️🖤🤍💚
Helena , " F. Nethenaytu " is much easier to understand than your analysis. I'm an educated person and I couldn't understand you, so 90 per cent of people won't understand you. So you have no audience.
*the best HUMAN among you, is those gave benefit others*
😢 May God continuosly send those REAL HUMAN to help Palestinians
The car,....well, maybe I'm just not clever enough to understand it; but top marks to both of those brave people for speaking out. Nobody can say that the Gaza genocide is NOT part of zionism, because it clearly, absolutely is. Don't discourage "celebreties" from calling I3raell out,....why the hell shouldn't they. Helena is talking arrant nonsense!....She seems to be saying that the situation is SO importanmt that we ought not to speak about it. She's weirdly confused. It isn't "a smart point".
FREE PALESTINE!!! 🙏🏽
The Ottoman Empire said Jews could buy land in Judea in 1873, the British allowed it in 1920, the UN approved in 1948, so what's the problem?
@ Apartheid and Genocide is the problem.
poor lass was well anxious but she got the point across and we stand behind her!
If anything it's the first time I have or would have heard of this artist so rather than risk her career it did the opposite. bravo
..it matters which systems systematize systems
2:40 respect
Terrible take from Helena. The Palestinian people need all the help they can get.
Grian the Fontaines frontman has said it at basically all of the shows on their current tour too
this lady should be hasbara advisor.
Wasn't it about some people feeling there was no option, about speaking out, regardless?
Beautiful
Scotland and Ireland do it again!...
Fundamental difference between the Kamala celebrity endorsements and this are: With Kamala they were endorsing the establishment while Fontaines stance is counter to the establishment nsrrative.
That's deep 🤣🤣🤣
We had Russell brand and Charlotte church 10 years ago in the peoples assembly against austerity, the trouble is they move on and have other views years later. It needs to be broad based.
I agree with the message in the title. Enough already.
The Ottoman Empire said Jews could buy land in Judea in 1873, the British allowed it in 1920, the UN approved in 1948, so what's the problem?
@Jay-1689 what land did they "buy" recently?
The Turner prizes definition of art has gone out the window by the looks of it.
Its the Gen Z. You are not young enough. LOL
@trumplostlol3007 hopefully most of gen z will see that for what it is, shite!
@@S-Ltd1000 It is about creativity and being different. If humans beings stop being creative, we will be replaced by AI very soon. In fact, AIs have becoming very creative lately.
All started with the unmade bed. Now you just need to stick any old junk in the Tate, link it to a political cause or oppressed people. Bingo, best art all year. It's all so stale.
@@trumplostlol3007 you're confusing creativity with taking the piss.
Brave Irish nation
The Ottoman Empire said Jews could buy land in Judea in 1873, the British allowed it in 1920, the UN approved in 1948, so what's the problem?
This woman can walk tall and hold her head high !
Jasleen you’re beautiful inside and out!!!😍
Led me to there music, that shit is fire
This matters but will they be shunned into oblivion
Very brave people
Thank you. Don't forget Gaza.
The Ottoman Empire said Jews could buy land in Judea in 1873, the British allowed it in 1920, the UN approved in 1948, so what's the problem?
Reasoning is not her best quality. Her comment is so screwed up.
Heroes
How does it look, Helena?....It looks brave and bold and right. You're tying yourself in mad, moralistic knots.