One of my favorite scenes: Mat: *sees Aiel on the rooftops* Mat: *sees Juilin on the rooftops* Mat: “How many people are on these FUCKING ROOFTOPS tonight?!?”
@Trisjack20 reminded me of that one chapter in the third Eragon book where he forges his own sword, but less contrived and fantastical. Just some great craftsmanship detail and authenticity, Jordan is so good at stuff like that
@@hazworther Yeah and one of the things is that Mat always pushes back against being important/noble etc but in the end I cannot see him being happy with a small life raising horses in 2 trivers. I genuinely think that though Perrin is an amazing leader he could genuinely have been happy with being a smith a creator of useful and beautiful things. I think it is one of the reasons he is my genuine favourite is that if this had been his whole life he'd have been okay with it. It may not be a plot advancement but this scene says a lot without really dropping any information. It is all in the show don't tell and I love that.
I think Mat's "luck," isn't so much him being "lucky," but rather how he choses to view his Ta'veren powers, and his full acceptance of them allows him to utilize them to a fuller extent than Rand or Perrin do.
@@willparry530 that means a conscious choice to control the power but he had to randomly walk into a bar to find the assassin. I don't think that's quite how it works, not that i have a better theory mind you...
I think my favorite memory of this book besides mat being amazing is the several times a character is like "was that rand? That looked like rand running by..."
YESS! There's a few others, like when Mat and the girls are going down to Tear, as Mat lands at Aringill, a particular boat is noticed by Mat (fat and slow I think) and the description resembles the one the Gals picked up in Jurene after the encounter with the Aiel.
@@MrBellsa61 Or where the captain of the ship Mat takes down to Tear mentions a boat that on his way to Arringel he saw a boat stuck on the sand banks, which has to be the boat the girls got on in Tar Valon.
I think some of them are Rand, at the end with Mat maybe, but a lot of them were probably just Aiel that were undercover waiting on the The One Who Comes With Dawn
I loved how when Egwene, Nyneave and Elayne arrive in Tear there are loads of descriptions of how different the people are, how depressing everything is - most of all the mud and the strange atmosphere. And then when Matt and Tom arrive, Matt is like.... the fashion here shows much more cleavage
She is ruthlessly good. Her character is willing to do almost anything to make sure the light has a chance against the darkness. Nothing. Else. Matters.
I love what is done with Rand, with so few scenes with him he really feels mysterious and alienated. One of my favorite scenes with when Rand is attacked by bunch of darkfriends in tge forest. He kills them all, which is disturbing enough, but then he makes the corpses kneel before him. That moment really creeped me out.
I love how the idiot knew that Tear was associated with the guy he's looking for, in fact, Tear is the ONLY clue he has to HWCWTD's location, and instead he manages to pass Tear and put the two largest rivers in the known world between him and the place he should have been going in the first place. Also, the only Aiel to actually encounter HWCWTD before he outs himself in Tear, almost attack him in an Ogier _stedding_ That's why you don't use women as soldiers - send them on a vital mission to locate and protect the savior of your people, and they almost kill him because he interrupted their shopping trip detour! Like, the three Maidens _recognize_ that Rand is an Aiel. They comment on it and give his sword a dirty look. Ingtar had a sword too, and they didn't glare at him. They KNEW Rand was Aiel and they just ignore it and leave. How many Aiel raised by wetlanders do they think there ARE, since no one leaves? The Wise Ones know he is the son of Shaiel and Janduin, because that's the only Aiel baby in their history who could have ended up in the wetlands, so they also had to know how old he is. And the Maidens see a man who is the right age and is plainly and obviously of Aiel blood, and they don't stop to think whether or not he's the whole POINT they left the Three Fold Land in the first place. Aiel are dumb.
@@Gunleaver Hey how else would he have had the very dramatic civil war between the Aiel clans? These types of things are necessary to advance the plot. I know it's idiotic, but it's necessary. Like Egwene. Stupid, illogical, downright unbelievable, but necessary.
@@whatamidoingwithmylife4108 I don't think the Aiel schism was stupidity, it was just stubbornness and wanting things their own way. It was the result of cultural pressures that are hinted at building, such as various comments from the Wise Ones about the new ways of carrying out ji'e'toh that violated the spirit. Couladin clearly had some plan in mind like what he actually did, before Rand ever revealed that he was HWCWTD, and a lot of people fell in line with him. The isolated, monotonous, homogenous culture of the Aiel, where everyone has to follow this elaborate and highly codified system of behavior that was largely all about the honor system ... that was never going to be sustainable in the long run. The chiefs and Wise Ones were running a con, but the time beyond which they would be unable to keep all their balls in the air was coming up, and Couladin and Sevanna, or someone like them, would have caused a split eventually. Eventually someone among the Aiel would be like "hey, you know what? Screw this waiting around in the desert to be punished and shaped and tested for some ancient sin we don't remember, and some mysterious future purpose we never agreed to! Imma go into the wetlands, where they got plenty of water and shade and a lot of nice things and are not super good at defending themselves, their lands or their stuff. Byeee!" Couladin and his followers were not the dumb ones, they were the smart ones, the ones who questioned the system and bucked the doctrine and acted in their best interests. It was horribly wrong and lower-case evil, but a lot of times, that IS the smart thing, or the thing that best serves your interest.
For me, the splitting up and coming back together every time is further showing the ridiculous power of rand’s ta’veren nature. Every time these people important to his future try to get away or do their own thing, their yanked right back.
One of my favorite parts of this book is actually how much it humanizes Moiraine. In the first two books, she's a mysterious wizard who seems far above our main characters. Even if her conversation with the Amyrlin reveals it's not all straightforward for her, she's still part of the Illuminati; she's got this. But book 3 makes it very clear that, no, she hasn't got this. Rand just runs away from her and she spends most of the book panicking trying to keep up. But it also humanizes her in more normal ways, like when Perrin walks in on her with her hair down, and they start talking about this cute girl he met at the bar. Or, with the hindsight of later books, how Moiraine being much better than Perrin at fishing isn't due to Aes Sedai specialness, but because she grew up around Siuan.
The whole plot is pretty formulaic at the point of the third book. 1) the group is together 2) the group splits up 3) the groups all take different paths across the country 4) the group reconverges 5) Rand kills the dark one Book 4 is better!
Funny thing I noticed on my recent reading of TDR: After all of the times Moiraine hides the fact that she is aes sedai and/or uses an alias, she gets outed like *four times* in this book. Always in the company of Perrin, so I think this might just be a funny instance of ta'veren shenanigans that RJ hid in there.
"It is like a toddler handed a nuclear bomb" " Guys that's the dragon reborn. We are going to the last battle Everything is going to shit" God i love these reviews
The first time I read the series, The Dragon Reborn was one of my personal favorites, but upon every re-read, it's dropped in my positions, I think it's not because I like it less, but rather because I like a lot that comes after it so much more.
Really insightful comment! I feel like this about Fires of Heaven and the Eye of the World like they are great but when I am in them I am like oh I know whats coming lets get to that!
I had a similar experience with this book, where I first read it as a teenager and didn't really like Rand's storyline in this book. But now that I'm in my 40's, I enjoyed it much more. Edit: The scene where Matt rescues the ladies, and they are completely ungrateful bothered me quite a bit. In fact, the pride and ego of the characters in the entire series irritated me a LOT in the last re-read I did last year.
Which is why when Avidenda forces them to accept they have toh to him is really great. I really like that Jordan made the characters so flawed and that in most cases he calls them on it in one chapter or another. I find that rpide/ego is the universal problem/challenge. Almost all of us (In my opinion) struggle to some extent with balancing our wants and desires against the scales of what is 'right' or 'fair'. Personally I do not always win even when I am aware and directly trying to do the right thing I can end up feeling like I am being short changed or unfairly treated and then I push for what I want instead. Age and experience can help, as of course does the development of relationships that make the good of others something that brings such personal happiness and satisfaction it helps fight back. Still, the behaviour is frustrating, but still so very real in so many cases. it makes me wonder what if there were some people doing a lot of good and potentially saving the world but some of what they did, thought or said was just not ok (Like egotistical, racist or other fairly universally accepted 'bad') would we fight against them or try to tear them down despite the potential good they could do? To me thats one of the great themes of these books.
The worldbuilding really shines in this one. The magic system starts to make more sense, the cultures are set up nicely and the character's motivations become more interesting. The Dragon Reborn convinced me to read the rest of the series.
@@AnkitSharma-fu9io The scale of the story goes upto 11the more books you read. It becomes apparent on later books why GRR Martin was influenced by Wheel of Time
@@goodisgood153 That's amazing . I was initially reluctant to start this series because of its sheer length , but the kind of reviews I get about it every passing day just makes it all worth the time . Anyways , thanks.
As someone who had read Malazan before Wheel of Time, 'The Dragon Reborn's ending where everyone is converging inside the Stone of Tear was pure joy to read.
Reading this again when I'm older, and it's remarkable how all the teenagers act like teenagers. A lot of their worst personality traits is due to the fact that they all think they're invincible, and they do a lot of stupid and irritating things because of it. A second aspect I think is often overlooked that starts in this book is how ever single culture has a different set of signs for the appearance of their savior. He has to meet the signs for each culture to get them on board. There's always the question going on if Rand is the chosen one for every culture, and I get the impression he is desperate for someone, anyone else to be one of the chosen ones to relieve some of the burden.
..... is this a bad time to admit that I imagine elevator music to be playing whenever people are traveling and also in rand's head whenever people talk to him? I hope the show recognizes that this is definitely canon and important and needs to be added in or else I will revolt.
@@DanielGreeneReviews I feel like this is more tame and normal than my other head cannon of everyone bursting out into disney songs with Lan being a disney princess singing let it go ..... Imma just stop now and let this die. I've reached peaked humor with elevator music. I can disappear in peace now.
@@sirgoo9962 Awesome! Have you seen the 1st Conan the Barbarian? ( with Arnold) anyhoo I’m showing my age.) so anytime I see someone running or read about it ( think Lord of the rings when they are looking for the two hobbits) I hear that music. Also when I see /read a battle ( swords and that ) or a retreat I hear Ride of Valkyrie. So I’m with ya!
I imagine that whoever is in charge of casting for the series is terrified of Lanfear. They have to be thinking, "There is no way I can cast this in a way that even a majority of people will be happy."
@@stevencook388 Exactly. I did have one amusing idea that would be interesting if they did something like it. Since Jordan did say that she's so beautiful that beautiful women near her look ordinary, what if they applied anti-beauty make up to any women in the same frame as her? If they did and were subtle enough with it, it would make for an interesting effect that the average viewer wouldn't realize what had happened but would be aware of the contrast.
It was interesting also whilst Mat and Thom were in Caemlyn, the fact of weird dreams was brought up by the Innkeeper, which is an aspect that was present within both Illian and Tear, and there was proven to be a forsaken in both of those cities. Could Gaebril be a forsaken? Its interesting to think about. Also on another note, at the very end of the book, the group receives a letter from Lanfear outlining that the Dragon Reborn will always be hers, and she is 'giving him over' to them for a very short while. The lady who delivers this message, Barelain, the 'First of Mayene' is described "wearing a coronet with a golden hawk in flight". Could this be the hawk on Perrin's shoulder that Min told Perrin about? Maybe a challenger to Perrin's love, against Faile? Interesting to think about.
Daniel. I’ve been watching you for years, and you’re the reason I got into wheel of time. This review made me laugh more than any other video you’ve done. Your goofy re-enactments of scenes within the book were something special. I can’t wait for the shadow rising review
I actually bought this one first because I really liked the blue and red on the cover and the title seemed very appealing to me. A few pages in and I didn't know what the fuck was going on, so I googled it and yeah, turns out there were two other books first. I am a genius.
The Mat vs Gawyn/Galad scene is one of my favourite scenes of the whole series. I think this book is where Mat starts to come in to his own and the few glimpses of Rand we get work super effectively. On the whole, I like this book quite a bit. The stuff with Perrin at the beginning and encountering the other wolf brother work very well too. I actually still have this in my top half - I like it better than the Great Hunt which I feel dragsin the middle after a great start and end.
Yeah, I imagine it was hard for Jordan in Book 2 to make the middle of the book exciting, since it was essentially just either them protecting the horn or looking for it for a while, and them staying in Cairhien for a while after so long going from place to place is a little jarring. Although I think Book 3 also does drag quite a bit in the middle with like a third of the book just being White Tower stuff without taking any breaks to check on Perrin or Rand
What I love about the concept of ta'veren is that it literally lets RJ give Rand, Mat, and Perrin plot armor and force the plot to work how he needs it to, and it's all totally justified in-world.
Yeah. The idea of the hand of the author as a noticeable, quantifiable property about someone, that characters are aware of, and comment on, is such an interesting thing to explore.
@@totesmagotes213 look at what the wise ones have achieved (holding their culture together and finding every single aiel woman with the spark of channeling and all who can be taught to channel) as well as the achievements of the windfinders (ensure safe and favorable weather and ocean currents for safe sailing of their people as well as fooling the aes sedai). They have every right to be full of themselves. Do not get me started on the Seanchan.
These reread reviews sure do include a lot of things to the effect of “I know this sounds like it would suck but…” “in a lesser authors hands this would be rough but…” I’m honestly scared to reread cause I’m not sure how it would hold up. And I torched the whole series in 3 months with no books in the middle that’s how much I enjoyed it.
I liked each of the first four books more than the last. I felt like this third book was a kind of an inverted parallel to the first book. Where the first book was primarily them on the run, this is them on the hunt with Rand (and Perrin and Moiraine following) seeking out prophecy, the accepted crew hunting the black ajah and Mat is trying to be selfish but keeps sprinting across the continent to help his friends. My favourite part of the first 6 books so far was Mat setting off the explosion as a diversion, getting distracted by how impressive it was, and then entering possibly the best defended fortress in the world through his diversion. Incredibly funny situation that landed because of character work rather than feeling like the hand of the author.
Just finished reading it Today , Love this series and love the community of wheel of time readers. . . Mega thankful to Robert Jordan for this series it's been my friend when life feels upside down Tom Merlin - is just amazingly a father figure ; same as Lan" Ngyaine - However its speleed she's perfect in this book All around great book , Grateful for all the layers . . .
@@damp2269 It does have one kinda inconvenient weakness though for a certain half of the population when against people who know that it is there and can exploit it though :) I think the forsaken would have been kicking themselves earlier if they would have realized it.
Well its not really a sword its just a glass thing then when rand wields it it turns into a torch that just more like burbs through you then cuts you :P
In the Horn, Matt and Perrin are just Merry and Pippen at Saruman's tower :p This book is, once again, the transition from Hero's journey to History of the Wheel of Time. Matt and Perrin touch the world, and we get a better feel for what it means to be Te'veren. We also see how a Sword and Bow master (Tam Al'Thor) trains some country kids to use their tools (staff and bow), and no one things anything of it within their little corner of the Two Rivers. Matt trouncing the best of White Tower sword masters is our first real lesson that the Tower's greatest power is its bravado. And Matt is NOT a scoundrel! He just has a problem saying no when someone suggests a bit of fun...
People talking about the need to slow down so they can catch up. Me, im already halfway through book 5. You're the one who needs to catch up, Daniel. xD
I'm enjoying listening to your commentaries as it definitely enhances my own reading. Thank you very much. I think I enjoyed Mat's co tibial winning at dice, especially rhe night he just couldn't lose! The dice in his head just kept tumbling and tumbling
I just started these audio books when the show came out and I'm slowly but surely being sucked into this work and becoming a megafan! I def see elements from LOTR, I see things borrowed from this into Eragon, I see parallels with Sword of Truth, and I'm cool with all of it because I love all those series!! And your videos are perfect addendums to the series. It's like being in a nerdy, awesome bookclub!! Thank you!!!
NGL I really need these videos because I stopped a while back on Lord of chaos and have forgotten most of the plotlines so these videos are helping me recall most things before I start to finish off the rest of the books.
I recently started reading WOT for the first time and finished this a few weeks ago. Regardless of anyone's feelings on the book it drives me crazy that you straight up title this one The Dragon Reborn, make it seem like this book is finally going to go into Rand and having to truly except what he is and what it means, and then for the first time in the series the actual Dragon Reborn is barely a POV character. Drove me nuts the whole book.
Daniel, I been going through some shit lately, but you are my favorite paperback goblin gladiator and your videos make things a little easier. Stay amazing, plz.
gosh, this is so enjoyable to watch. Its been like 7-8 Months since i finished the WoT, and this just reminds me of my pleasure experiencing the Books!
I started reading this series after watching the show, and JUST finished book 3. No one else I know is reading it, so Im short of people to talk and gush books with. Thanks for doing these, its a nice "I just finished this book and i MUST TALK ABOUT IT" companion video.
Just finished this book for my 5th re-read and I found myself absolutely loving the imagery, specifically in the Rand scenes when we are getting glimpses of him fighting dark friends and shadow spawn both in the real world and his dreams. I found myself really noticing amazing little examples of that with everybody throughout the book. So happy to be going through the series again 😊
The break-up and regathering of characters helps me remember what happened in all the books so far. I’ve actually started post-it noting on each book each group of characters and their objectives.
My favorite elementbof this one was Matt finally getting to be more adulty Lucky Matt, helping out his old mentor Thom. Watching Egwene explore her dream world abilities was also pretty sweet. Thanks for the fun review!
Thanks a lot for extending it to once a month! That'll be really helpful! Now, the book: Mat owned this book. Him and the girls, but mostly him. I still can't get over how he made weighted dice roll against themselves through sheer luck. Jesus Christ, Mat. I'm not so sure about who the best character is yet (at least out of the three boys), but Mat is by far the most entertaining POV for me to read. Partly because of his luck, partly because of his constant complaining and refusal to admit things about himself. As for the others, the girls were probably my second favourite purely due to their journey to becoming Aes Sedai getting furthered. As much as I liked the Black Ajah stuff, that was what I really enjoyed about them. As for Perrin, he didn't really have much going on for him for most of the book (unfortunately), and Rand was barely present until the end. The most interesting parts about him were seeing the effects of a ta'veren on small communities and villages.
I can see how The Dragon Reborn might get a tad worse in re-reads, but having read it just once, it's my second favorite as of right now. It was a rollercoaster ride from start to finish and I only loved The Shadow Rising even more. Though I have to add the caveat that I am now about a thirds into book 8, so I still have quite a way to go. And about that: someone told me the slog would start at book 8, but the start of book 8 is amazing! It must drop down hard from here, or maybe I'll end up being one of the "there is no slog" clan. Oh, how I hope it'll be the latter. Please let it be the latter! ^^
This was the last book I read in my mother language. After it I needed more, but because the books are split like 3-4 times each in Germany and I was a poor student I noticed: i could by the rest of the books (about 30) in my language or i could just buy 8 books in English. I didn't regret it for one second.
One of my big problems with this book is that Rand just seems way too crazy. Like that scene you referred to where Perrin enters his dream and he's just bonkers. And the other scene where he tries to revive the dead girl (though part of that could be Callandor's influence). It just seems way out of synch compared with Shadow Rising, where he seems much more sane.
This book has been near the top for my favs of the books just because of the satisfying Jordan ending we’re given here. I mean it truly is the finish to the primary trilogy. And I was happy that Rand finally accepted that he was the dragon, books one and two was me yelling at Rand “your the dude, dude!! Stop running from prophecy!”. But I also love how these events of book 3 come back as sort of nostalgia for Rand in book 12 it’s so heart felt.
I actually like this book more than the great hunt. Mostly because the story made me appreciate Matt more and I like that we rarely see Rand's point of view, wich made him seem like the unpredictable force of nature that the world views him as.
This. The great hunt was a little boring for me. This finally made me sit up and start to enjoy. All those plotlines converging at Tear was pretty exciting, and what you said about Rand being so unpredictable.
This is my first read through (thanks for the inspiration). I'm on Lord of Chaos, and I honestly think the series is getting better and better. These are great refreshers though, so much to try and keep track of - I see why people will reread the whole thing again and again.
Just started book 4 and I already feel like I need to start re reading this series cause I may have missed things or forgot small things. Guess I'll spend the next couple years finishing the series a few times, lol.
Just started reading the book, so decided to take a pic on spoiler-free section and then... You said some wonderful work would be done here for Matt. I'm just happy! His development isn't actually as far from me along the series as I thought! Also, 2:31 - 2:50 is just amazing news for me. Matt kinda hits my favorite fantasy character archetype spot on - gray, kinda impulsive but still caring(that's mostly the show influence probably) trickster(and I for some reason just love spears/glaives as a weapon, and I saw some incredible art of Matt). Only that he's quite a ...meany, let's say so, for most read time and I was waiting for him to go turn good guy again. Now that I think about it, it appears to me that there may be some events reflecting Rand helping Matt with corruption throughout a journey, only that now Matt would be helping Rand with One power sometime somehow, just a guess based on a few first chapters of the dragon reborn, Rand seems upset and losing control and now he run away no one knows where(back to Two Rivers to try and protect it?...) Yep, no, my guesses weren't right, anyway the book is a blast!
BEWARE THE SPOILERS BELOW!
The most important pinned comment I've ever read
What do you think about the TV- edition EOTW release being shifted to September?
lol rand killed the dark one. Finally lol. Reads memory of light...
BEWARE THE STICK
Have you read the God of Thunder by Jason Aaron and Esad Ribic? I feel like you might enjoy it as much as I do specifically the 1st 2 story arcs
One of my favorite scenes:
Mat: *sees Aiel on the rooftops*
Mat: *sees Juilin on the rooftops*
Mat: “How many people are on these FUCKING ROOFTOPS tonight?!?”
What is this, Grand Central Station?? 🤣
you missed him seeing Rand climbing too.
Of course, he himself was also on the rooftops.
@@gokbay3057 because is it really even mat unless he's complaining about something he's guilty of too
Loved that
best scene in this book is Perrin waltzing into a random forge in Tear and just being a blacksmith for a few pages
man I am so glad I am not the only one who absolutely loves that scene!
@Trisjack20 reminded me of that one chapter in the third Eragon book where he forges his own sword, but less contrived and fantastical. Just some great craftsmanship detail and authenticity, Jordan is so good at stuff like that
@@hazworther Yeah and one of the things is that Mat always pushes back against being important/noble etc but in the end I cannot see him being happy with a small life raising horses in 2 trivers. I genuinely think that though Perrin is an amazing leader he could genuinely have been happy with being a smith a creator of useful and beautiful things. I think it is one of the reasons he is my genuine favourite is that if this had been his whole life he'd have been okay with it. It may not be a plot advancement but this scene says a lot without really dropping any information. It is all in the show don't tell and I love that.
Truly is one of the best. It was a breath of fresh air honestly
I just read it, and it really felt like Perrin needed it. Great scene 👏
*Rand*: I am the Dragon Reborn.
*Perrin*: I am a Wolf Brother.
*Mat*: So, am I the normal one? Ah ha, just lucky I guess.
I think Mat's "luck," isn't so much him being "lucky," but rather how he choses to view his Ta'veren powers, and his full acceptance of them allows him to utilize them to a fuller extent than Rand or Perrin do.
@@TheLordofMetroids That's a great take on it
@@TheLordofMetroids Honestly, I kinda agree there
This comment is gold
@@willparry530 that means a conscious choice to control the power but he had to randomly walk into a bar to find the assassin. I don't think that's quite how it works, not that i have a better theory mind you...
I think my favorite memory of this book besides mat being amazing is the several times a character is like "was that rand? That looked like rand running by..."
YESS! There's a few others, like when Mat and the girls are going down to Tear, as Mat lands at Aringill, a particular boat is noticed by Mat (fat and slow I think) and the description resembles the one the Gals picked up in Jurene after the encounter with the Aiel.
@@MrBellsa61 Or where the captain of the ship Mat takes down to Tear mentions a boat that on his way to Arringel he saw a boat stuck on the sand banks, which has to be the boat the girls got on in Tar Valon.
I think some of them are Rand, at the end with Mat maybe, but a lot of them were probably just Aiel that were undercover waiting on the The One Who Comes With Dawn
I loved how when Egwene, Nyneave and Elayne arrive in Tear there are loads of descriptions of how different the people are, how depressing everything is - most of all the mud and the strange atmosphere. And then when Matt and Tom arrive, Matt is like.... the fashion here shows much more cleavage
Because Mat is a man of culture and importance
I completly missed that😂😂😂😂
*Faile falls into trap set for Moiraine*
Moiraine: Oh no!
....Anyway
She is ruthlessly good. Her character is willing to do almost anything to make sure the light has a chance against the darkness. Nothing. Else. Matters.
To be fair, she did have a Forsaken to deal with and a messiah to save
Moiraine really just comes in like "I'm about to ruin this forsaken's whole career."
Is it me or did Moraine shout "JOHN SENA! when she tackle Lanfear thought the portal. I'm not sure.
I'll have to reread that part.
Thought that was book 4
@@leannerose6181 The portal part is. I was referencing what she does in the Stone of Tear.
*end this whole man’s thread in the pattern
@@leannerose6181 I thought the portal push wasn't book 3 or 4, thought it was at the end of book 5? Fires of Heaven?
The intro is actually me trying to explain to my friends what exactly I’ve been reading over the past year.
Omg I ALSO forgot this was Avienda’s introduction. Little did I know I had just met the LOML 😍
I love what is done with Rand, with so few scenes with him he really feels mysterious and alienated.
One of my favorite scenes with when Rand is attacked by bunch of darkfriends in tge forest. He kills them all, which is disturbing enough, but then he makes the corpses kneel before him. That moment really creeped me out.
That moment gave me the chills yes
"Half the population just woke up and said alright time to go to the stone of tear" is my favorite quote from this summary
I love how Perrin tells Gaul that ‘He Who Comes With The Dawn’ is on his way to Tear and Gaul just casually accepts this. Love them both. 🤗
Just call him Car'a'carn. He Who Comes With The Dawn is a mouthful.
Great characters basically my FAV rand lander and my fav Aiel!
I love how the idiot knew that Tear was associated with the guy he's looking for, in fact, Tear is the ONLY clue he has to HWCWTD's location, and instead he manages to pass Tear and put the two largest rivers in the known world between him and the place he should have been going in the first place.
Also, the only Aiel to actually encounter HWCWTD before he outs himself in Tear, almost attack him in an Ogier _stedding_ That's why you don't use women as soldiers - send them on a vital mission to locate and protect the savior of your people, and they almost kill him because he interrupted their shopping trip detour!
Like, the three Maidens _recognize_ that Rand is an Aiel. They comment on it and give his sword a dirty look. Ingtar had a sword too, and they didn't glare at him. They KNEW Rand was Aiel and they just ignore it and leave. How many Aiel raised by wetlanders do they think there ARE, since no one leaves? The Wise Ones know he is the son of Shaiel and Janduin, because that's the only Aiel baby in their history who could have ended up in the wetlands, so they also had to know how old he is. And the Maidens see a man who is the right age and is plainly and obviously of Aiel blood, and they don't stop to think whether or not he's the whole POINT they left the Three Fold Land in the first place.
Aiel are dumb.
@@Gunleaver Hey how else would he have had the very dramatic civil war between the Aiel clans? These types of things are necessary to advance the plot. I know it's idiotic, but it's necessary. Like Egwene. Stupid, illogical, downright unbelievable, but necessary.
@@whatamidoingwithmylife4108
I don't think the Aiel schism was stupidity, it was just stubbornness and wanting things their own way. It was the result of cultural pressures that are hinted at building, such as various comments from the Wise Ones about the new ways of carrying out ji'e'toh that violated the spirit. Couladin clearly had some plan in mind like what he actually did, before Rand ever revealed that he was HWCWTD, and a lot of people fell in line with him.
The isolated, monotonous, homogenous culture of the Aiel, where everyone has to follow this elaborate and highly codified system of behavior that was largely all about the honor system ... that was never going to be sustainable in the long run. The chiefs and Wise Ones were running a con, but the time beyond which they would be unable to keep all their balls in the air was coming up, and Couladin and Sevanna, or someone like them, would have caused a split eventually. Eventually someone among the Aiel would be like "hey, you know what? Screw this waiting around in the desert to be punished and shaped and tested for some ancient sin we don't remember, and some mysterious future purpose we never agreed to! Imma go into the wetlands, where they got plenty of water and shade and a lot of nice things and are not super good at defending themselves, their lands or their stuff. Byeee!"
Couladin and his followers were not the dumb ones, they were the smart ones, the ones who questioned the system and bucked the doctrine and acted in their best interests. It was horribly wrong and lower-case evil, but a lot of times, that IS the smart thing, or the thing that best serves your interest.
For me, the splitting up and coming back together every time is further showing the ridiculous power of rand’s ta’veren nature. Every time these people important to his future try to get away or do their own thing, their yanked right back.
Sad Mat noises
It's like that Moe and Barney scene
One of my favorite parts of this book is actually how much it humanizes Moiraine. In the first two books, she's a mysterious wizard who seems far above our main characters. Even if her conversation with the Amyrlin reveals it's not all straightforward for her, she's still part of the Illuminati; she's got this.
But book 3 makes it very clear that, no, she hasn't got this. Rand just runs away from her and she spends most of the book panicking trying to keep up. But it also humanizes her in more normal ways, like when Perrin walks in on her with her hair down, and they start talking about this cute girl he met at the bar. Or, with the hindsight of later books, how Moiraine being much better than Perrin at fishing isn't due to Aes Sedai specialness, but because she grew up around Siuan.
The one thing I don’t like so far is how the past 3 books have ended with Rand “killing” The Dark One, but not actually killing him
The whole plot is pretty formulaic at the point of the third book.
1) the group is together
2) the group splits up
3) the groups all take different paths across the country
4) the group reconverges
5) Rand kills the dark one
Book 4 is better!
DAMMIT I INCREASED MY READING PACE TO STAY AHEAD OF THESE VIDEOS AND NOW IM ON BOOK 6
I'm with you there, I'm about a quarter of the through A Memory of Light
Motion to rename callandor “the sword that is sometimes a sword”
The sword...if that's what you're into.
Funny thing I noticed on my recent reading of TDR:
After all of the times Moiraine hides the fact that she is aes sedai and/or uses an alias, she gets outed like *four times* in this book. Always in the company of Perrin, so I think this might just be a funny instance of ta'veren shenanigans that RJ hid in there.
I always thought it was a kinda funny general theme throughout the books that all Aes Sedai are awful at pretending to not be Aes Sedai.
"It is like a toddler handed a nuclear bomb"
" Guys that's the dragon reborn. We are going to the last battle Everything is going to shit"
God i love these reviews
Daniel's commentary with the summary is the best thing that ever happened on this channel
The first time I read the series, The Dragon Reborn was one of my personal favorites, but upon every re-read, it's dropped in my positions, I think it's not because I like it less, but rather because I like a lot that comes after it so much more.
Really insightful comment!
I feel like this about Fires of Heaven and the Eye of the World like they are great but when I am in them I am like oh I know whats coming lets get to that!
I had a similar experience with this book, where I first read it as a teenager and didn't really like Rand's storyline in this book. But now that I'm in my 40's, I enjoyed it much more. Edit: The scene where Matt rescues the ladies, and they are completely ungrateful bothered me quite a bit. In fact, the pride and ego of the characters in the entire series irritated me a LOT in the last re-read I did last year.
Which is why when Avidenda forces them to accept they have toh to him is really great. I really like that Jordan made the characters so flawed and that in most cases he calls them on it in one chapter or another. I find that rpide/ego is the universal problem/challenge. Almost all of us (In my opinion) struggle to some extent with balancing our wants and desires against the scales of what is 'right' or 'fair'. Personally I do not always win even when I am aware and directly trying to do the right thing I can end up feeling like I am being short changed or unfairly treated and then I push for what I want instead. Age and experience can help, as of course does the development of relationships that make the good of others something that brings such personal happiness and satisfaction it helps fight back. Still, the behaviour is frustrating, but still so very real in so many cases. it makes me wonder what if there were some people doing a lot of good and potentially saving the world but some of what they did, thought or said was just not ok (Like egotistical, racist or other fairly universally accepted 'bad') would we fight against them or try to tear them down despite the potential good they could do? To me thats one of the great themes of these books.
@@Trisjack20 Very true.
It’s crazy how good the book gets when we’re following Matt
"That's a tasty muffin," best description of Perrin ever.
Perrin is the actual gigachad
The worldbuilding really shines in this one. The magic system starts to make more sense, the cultures are set up nicely and the character's motivations become more interesting. The Dragon Reborn convinced me to read the rest of the series.
Same . Have you read the entire series ? I've read it only till book 3 . How good does it get? What are the best books here on ??
@@AnkitSharma-fu9io I'm at book 6. So far books 4 and 5 were the best in my opinion
@@jvdw843 Thanks , bud .
@@AnkitSharma-fu9io The scale of the story goes upto 11the more books you read. It becomes apparent on later books why GRR Martin was influenced by Wheel of Time
@@goodisgood153 That's amazing . I was initially reluctant to start this series because of its sheer length , but the kind of reviews I get about it every passing day just makes it all worth the time . Anyways , thanks.
As someone who had read Malazan before Wheel of Time, 'The Dragon Reborn's ending where everyone is converging inside the Stone of Tear was pure joy to read.
I'm currently on Malazan book 6, read all of WoT and boy, do I understand 😂
Same here!!!
This makes me wanna read malazan !!
Reading this again when I'm older, and it's remarkable how all the teenagers act like teenagers. A lot of their worst personality traits is due to the fact that they all think they're invincible, and they do a lot of stupid and irritating things because of it.
A second aspect I think is often overlooked that starts in this book is how ever single culture has a different set of signs for the appearance of their savior. He has to meet the signs for each culture to get them on board. There's always the question going on if Rand is the chosen one for every culture, and I get the impression he is desperate for someone, anyone else to be one of the chosen ones to relieve some of the burden.
Love this comment that is all
..... is this a bad time to admit that I imagine elevator music to be playing whenever people are traveling and also in rand's head whenever people talk to him? I hope the show recognizes that this is definitely canon and important and needs to be added in or else I will revolt.
thats hilarious!
@@DanielGreeneReviews I feel like this is more tame and normal than my other head cannon of everyone bursting out into disney songs with Lan being a disney princess singing let it go .....
Imma just stop now and let this die. I've reached peaked humor with elevator music. I can disappear in peace now.
My only head cannon is Demandred being Mazrim. Fake Mazrim on A Memory of Light. I cannot be swayed... I can never be swayed from this path...
@@sirgoo9962 Awesome! Have you seen the 1st Conan the Barbarian? ( with Arnold) anyhoo I’m showing my age.) so anytime I see someone running or read about it ( think Lord of the rings when they are looking for the two hobbits) I hear that music. Also when I see /read a battle ( swords and that ) or a retreat I hear Ride of Valkyrie. So I’m with ya!
This, but Final Fantasy (pick your favorite) overworld music.
I imagine that whoever is in charge of casting for the series is terrified of Lanfear. They have to be thinking, "There is no way I can cast this in a way that even a majority of people will be happy."
The answer is Beyoncé
It’s impossible for any human woman to be as beautiful as Lanfear is described
@@stevencook388 Exactly.
I did have one amusing idea that would be interesting if they did something like it. Since Jordan did say that she's so beautiful that beautiful women near her look ordinary, what if they applied anti-beauty make up to any women in the same frame as her? If they did and were subtle enough with it, it would make for an interesting effect that the average viewer wouldn't realize what had happened but would be aware of the contrast.
+
@@thecornerkid402 that’s a brilliant idea, hopefully they at least try to convey her beauty somehow
It was interesting also whilst Mat and Thom were in Caemlyn, the fact of weird dreams was brought up by the Innkeeper, which is an aspect that was present within both Illian and Tear, and there was proven to be a forsaken in both of those cities. Could Gaebril be a forsaken? Its interesting to think about.
Also on another note, at the very end of the book, the group receives a letter from Lanfear outlining that the Dragon Reborn will always be hers, and she is 'giving him over' to them for a very short while. The lady who delivers this message, Barelain, the 'First of Mayene' is described "wearing a coronet with a golden hawk in flight". Could this be the hawk on Perrin's shoulder that Min told Perrin about? Maybe a challenger to Perrin's love, against Faile? Interesting to think about.
Daniel. I’ve been watching you for years, and you’re the reason I got into wheel of time. This review made me laugh more than any other video you’ve done. Your goofy re-enactments of scenes within the book were something special. I can’t wait for the shadow rising review
I actually bought this one first because I really liked the blue and red on the cover and the title seemed very appealing to me. A few pages in and I didn't know what the fuck was going on, so I googled it and yeah, turns out there were two other books first. I am a genius.
And yes, 12 y/o me was idiotic enough to not see the BOOK THREE OF THE WHEEL OF TIME on the front. Kids are fucking dumb.
Nice
Kids are not dumb...... It's just you ;)
@@soulreaper1981 If you have ever been to a middle school, you know my statement is true lol
@@milospollonia1121 I know dude, I was just kidding
The Mat vs Gawyn/Galad scene is one of my favourite scenes of the whole series. I think this book is where Mat starts to come in to his own and the few glimpses of Rand we get work super effectively. On the whole, I like this book quite a bit. The stuff with Perrin at the beginning and encountering the other wolf brother work very well too.
I actually still have this in my top half - I like it better than the Great Hunt which I feel dragsin the middle after a great start and end.
Yeah, I imagine it was hard for Jordan in Book 2 to make the middle of the book exciting, since it was essentially just either them protecting the horn or looking for it for a while, and them staying in Cairhien for a while after so long going from place to place is a little jarring. Although I think Book 3 also does drag quite a bit in the middle with like a third of the book just being White Tower stuff without taking any breaks to check on Perrin or Rand
What I love about the concept of ta'veren is that it literally lets RJ give Rand, Mat, and Perrin plot armor and force the plot to work how he needs it to, and it's all totally justified in-world.
Yeah. The idea of the hand of the author as a noticeable, quantifiable property about someone, that characters are aware of, and comment on, is such an interesting thing to explore.
Daniel: white cloaks are the most self important people in the entire wheel of time.
Aes sedai: hold my beer.
And wise ones, and the sea folk, and the seanchan. It seems like many of the cultures in WoT are pretty full of themselves.
@@totesmagotes213 look at what the wise ones have achieved (holding their culture together and finding every single aiel woman with the spark of channeling and all who can be taught to channel) as well as the achievements of the windfinders (ensure safe and favorable weather and ocean currents for safe sailing of their people as well as fooling the aes sedai). They have every right to be full of themselves. Do not get me started on the Seanchan.
Currently on book 10 and starting to see that Jordan foreshadowing is legendary!!! Can't wait to keep reading.
This read along brought me back to finally reading the series. :)
That Gawyn / Mat scene for the WoT-show, should just be this. Not an adaptation. Just this.
Big faxx . That was fucking hilarious 😂
Aaaaand it was cut out.
Comparing Perrin to muffin, I never thought this could be done.
It’s my favorite in the series so far, just because the characters are starting to evolve, so good!
I just finished b10, trying to finish before the show comes out THIS YEAR! Loving this read along
These reread reviews sure do include a lot of things to the effect of “I know this sounds like it would suck but…” “in a lesser authors hands this would be rough but…” I’m honestly scared to reread cause I’m not sure how it would hold up. And I torched the whole series in 3 months with no books in the middle that’s how much I enjoyed it.
Mat leaving Thom with the wisdom was one of the funniest scenes in the whole series! I die every time I read or listen to it
I liked each of the first four books more than the last. I felt like this third book was a kind of an inverted parallel to the first book. Where the first book was primarily them on the run, this is them on the hunt with Rand (and Perrin and Moiraine following) seeking out prophecy, the accepted crew hunting the black ajah and Mat is trying to be selfish but keeps sprinting across the continent to help his friends.
My favourite part of the first 6 books so far was Mat setting off the explosion as a diversion, getting distracted by how impressive it was, and then entering possibly the best defended fortress in the world through his diversion. Incredibly funny situation that landed because of character work rather than feeling like the hand of the author.
Just finished reading it Today , Love this series and love the community of wheel of time readers. . . Mega thankful to Robert Jordan for this series it's been my friend when life feels upside down
Tom Merlin - is just amazingly a father figure ; same as Lan"
Ngyaine - However its speleed she's perfect in this book
All around great book , Grateful for all the layers . . .
Even after you delaying it to one book a month I’m somehow still behind :)
Me too. But now keeping up feels possible. So im more motivated to stick with it.
“The sword that is not a sword”, you mean “the sword that is not JUST a sword”...
the sword that is so OP that being a sword is inconsequential.
@@damp2269 It does have one kinda inconvenient weakness though for a certain half of the population when against people who know that it is there and can exploit it though :)
I think the forsaken would have been kicking themselves earlier if they would have realized it.
Well its not really a sword its just a glass thing then when rand wields it it turns into a torch that just more like burbs through you then cuts you :P
I agree 1 per month feels much better pacing, thanks!
Perrin's official description: "tasty muffin"
this is my favorite of the series so far really enjoyed all of the time spent with the girls and Matt.
Don’t have time for a reread but am super enjoying this as a recap before the show!
I remember thinking the dream sequences were a chore and cheesy until this book. Then it all changed and I loved the concept.
I've been looking forward to this !
Nothing to do with WoT but I read this in Count Dooku’s voice
@@AverageAwesomeDude Hello there !
@@AnkitSharma-fu9io General Memeobi! You are a bold one
In the Horn, Matt and Perrin are just Merry and Pippen at Saruman's tower :p This book is, once again, the transition from Hero's journey to History of the Wheel of Time. Matt and Perrin touch the world, and we get a better feel for what it means to be Te'veren. We also see how a Sword and Bow master (Tam Al'Thor) trains some country kids to use their tools (staff and bow), and no one things anything of it within their little corner of the Two Rivers. Matt trouncing the best of White Tower sword masters is our first real lesson that the Tower's greatest power is its bravado. And Matt is NOT a scoundrel! He just has a problem saying no when someone suggests a bit of fun...
People talking about the need to slow down so they can catch up.
Me, im already halfway through book 5. You're the one who needs to catch up, Daniel. xD
This thumbnail got real ZAMN energy.
Also Matt chucking the fireworks into the Stone of Tear is probably my favorite scene in this book.
just last night I went through your channel looking for this video. I wake up this morning and here it is. Maybe I'm Ta'veren?
I love this.... I just started Wheel of Time and I'm so happy I have something to watch since I can't get the book out of my head.
perfect for a lunch break, finished my reread yesterday
I'm enjoying listening to your commentaries as it definitely enhances my own reading. Thank you very much. I think I enjoyed Mat's co tibial winning at dice, especially rhe night he just couldn't lose! The dice in his head just kept tumbling and tumbling
I love the way you discuss this series. I'm currently on my 11th reread and I'm STILL excited by each book.
I just started these audio books when the show came out and I'm slowly but surely being sucked into this work and becoming a megafan! I def see elements from LOTR, I see things borrowed from this into Eragon, I see parallels with Sword of Truth, and I'm cool with all of it because I love all those series!!
And your videos are perfect addendums to the series. It's like being in a nerdy, awesome bookclub!! Thank you!!!
NGL I really need these videos because I stopped a while back on Lord of chaos and have forgotten most of the plotlines so these videos are helping me recall most things before I start to finish off the rest of the books.
Now this is what I've been craving
I recently started reading WOT for the first time and finished this a few weeks ago. Regardless of anyone's feelings on the book it drives me crazy that you straight up title this one The Dragon Reborn, make it seem like this book is finally going to go into Rand and having to truly except what he is and what it means, and then for the first time in the series the actual Dragon Reborn is barely a POV character. Drove me nuts the whole book.
I spit my drink out when you said “…that’s a tasty muffin” when describing Perrin. Loved it! 😂😂😂
Daniel, I been going through some shit lately, but you are my favorite paperback goblin gladiator and your videos make things a little easier.
Stay amazing, plz.
gosh, this is so enjoyable to watch. Its been like 7-8 Months since i finished the WoT, and this just reminds me of my pleasure experiencing the Books!
This is literally one of my favorite videos
I love how you're growing Daniel! So excited for the future of your channel.
I finished the fourth book in June and oh God, did I enjoy that book. Thanks for shoving this series down our throats and making me read it!
Book 4 is so damn good
I started reading this series after watching the show, and JUST finished book 3. No one else I know is reading it, so Im short of people to talk and gush books with. Thanks for doing these, its a nice "I just finished this book and i MUST TALK ABOUT IT" companion video.
Just finished this book for my 5th re-read and I found myself absolutely loving the imagery, specifically in the Rand scenes when we are getting glimpses of him fighting dark friends and shadow spawn both in the real world and his dreams. I found myself really noticing amazing little examples of that with everybody throughout the book. So happy to be going through the series again 😊
The break-up and regathering of characters helps me remember what happened in all the books so far. I’ve actually started post-it noting on each book each group of characters and their objectives.
Just found your channel while re reading the wheel of time, these breakdowns of the books are amazing thank you 👏
My favorite elementbof this one was Matt finally getting to be more adulty Lucky Matt, helping out his old mentor Thom. Watching Egwene explore her dream world abilities was also pretty sweet. Thanks for the fun review!
Thanks a lot for extending it to once a month! That'll be really helpful! Now, the book:
Mat owned this book. Him and the girls, but mostly him. I still can't get over how he made weighted dice roll against themselves through sheer luck. Jesus Christ, Mat. I'm not so sure about who the best character is yet (at least out of the three boys), but Mat is by far the most entertaining POV for me to read. Partly because of his luck, partly because of his constant complaining and refusal to admit things about himself.
As for the others, the girls were probably my second favourite purely due to their journey to becoming Aes Sedai getting furthered. As much as I liked the Black Ajah stuff, that was what I really enjoyed about them. As for Perrin, he didn't really have much going on for him for most of the book (unfortunately), and Rand was barely present until the end. The most interesting parts about him were seeing the effects of a ta'veren on small communities and villages.
This was easily one of the funniest vids about this book, i was in stitches esp with the "its a good time to go into the stone!"
Perrin and Gaul seemed to have a real friendship and trust each other. Their communication was impeccable.
read the dragon reborn last week
read it in two days
(LOVED chapter 24)
making my way through TSR now.
I can see how The Dragon Reborn might get a tad worse in re-reads, but having read it just once, it's my second favorite as of right now. It was a rollercoaster ride from start to finish and I only loved The Shadow Rising even more. Though I have to add the caveat that I am now about a thirds into book 8, so I still have quite a way to go.
And about that: someone told me the slog would start at book 8, but the start of book 8 is amazing! It must drop down hard from here, or maybe I'll end up being one of the "there is no slog" clan. Oh, how I hope it'll be the latter. Please let it be the latter! ^^
Just finished this morning. When I get home from work book 4 should be waiting!!
I’m reading the series for the first time and this book has been my favorite out of the first three
This was the last book I read in my mother language. After it I needed more, but because the books are split like 3-4 times each in Germany and I was a poor student I noticed: i could by the rest of the books (about 30) in my language or i could just buy 8 books in English. I didn't regret it for one second.
One of my big problems with this book is that Rand just seems way too crazy. Like that scene you referred to where Perrin enters his dream and he's just bonkers. And the other scene where he tries to revive the dead girl (though part of that could be Callandor's influence). It just seems way out of synch compared with Shadow Rising, where he seems much more sane.
I think that might be part of his “burn the world and let everything die to avoid hurting a single hair on a woman” thing.
Just watched the opening montage and know exactly which parts he is humourising. So...good job.
This book has been near the top for my favs of the books just because of the satisfying Jordan ending we’re given here. I mean it truly is the finish to the primary trilogy. And I was happy that Rand finally accepted that he was the dragon, books one and two was me yelling at Rand “your the dude, dude!! Stop running from prophecy!”. But I also love how these events of book 3 come back as sort of nostalgia for Rand in book 12 it’s so heart felt.
“We are changing from one book a week to one book a month to give you all more time!”
But… but… I’m on book eight already 😢
Thanks for dropping this on my birthday Goblin Lord.
This book is where Faile first appears fuk yeah
I actually like this book more than the great hunt. Mostly because the story made me appreciate Matt more and I like that we rarely see Rand's point of view, wich made him seem like the unpredictable force of nature that the world views him as.
This. The great hunt was a little boring for me. This finally made me sit up and start to enjoy. All those plotlines converging at Tear was pretty exciting, and what you said about Rand being so unpredictable.
I feel like Perrin’s encounter with Noam perfectly sets up one of his greatest character moments in The Towers of Midnight.
Agreed. Jordan's vision (With a little help from his deputy Sanderson) far reaching and effective!
This is my first read through (thanks for the inspiration). I'm on Lord of Chaos, and I honestly think the series is getting better and better. These are great refreshers though, so much to try and keep track of - I see why people will reread the whole thing again and again.
Just started book 4 and I already feel like I need to start re reading this series cause I may have missed things or forgot small things. Guess I'll spend the next couple years finishing the series a few times, lol.
Interesting, I like the Dragon Reborn way more than book 1 and 2, it's where the series took off for me (and obviously book 4 but that's another tier)
There are only few things in life I enjoyed as much as Mat gambling and having insane luck
Haha, "tasty muffin" made me chuckle. I wasn't expecting that.
Matt's fight in this book is one of my favorites in the whole series.
Just started reading the book, so decided to take a pic on spoiler-free section and then... You said some wonderful work would be done here for Matt. I'm just happy! His development isn't actually as far from me along the series as I thought!
Also, 2:31 - 2:50 is just amazing news for me. Matt kinda hits my favorite fantasy character archetype spot on - gray, kinda impulsive but still caring(that's mostly the show influence probably) trickster(and I for some reason just love spears/glaives as a weapon, and I saw some incredible art of Matt). Only that he's quite a ...meany, let's say so, for most read time and I was waiting for him to go turn good guy again.
Now that I think about it, it appears to me that there may be some events reflecting Rand helping Matt with corruption throughout a journey, only that now Matt would be helping Rand with One power sometime somehow, just a guess based on a few first chapters of the dragon reborn, Rand seems upset and losing control and now he run away no one knows where(back to Two Rivers to try and protect it?...)
Yep, no, my guesses weren't right, anyway the book is a blast!
Seriously Daniel, I’m enjoying these reviews!👌