Was Anthony Bourdain an Untreated Alcoholic? | Rich Roll Podcast Clips
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2021
- "That extremism made him this l;arger than life personality, so it was in many ways his strength and what endeared all of us to him so profoundly, but also ultimately paved the way for his demise" - Rich Roll
The Roadrunner documentary has finally been released, so Adam and I got a chance to sit down and discuss our thoughts and potential things that we can learn from looking at the life of Anthony Bourdain.
Check out the full conversation if you haven’t already.
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Totally agree Rich. As a person in recovery from alcohol every time I watched him drink my stomach churned with unease and sadness. Its hard to watch another human disintegrate in front of our eyes. We “get it when we get it”.. he never did. My heart mostly aches for his daughter. Those most affected by an addicts behaviour. RIP AB.
I just finished re-watching some of the early episodes of No Reservations, and the way he romanticizes drinking is more intense than I remember. However, the wicked hangovers he experiences often also demystify it completely, and remind me just how much I hate that feeling and never want to experience it again.
I miss Anthony now but when he was alive I saw him as an annoying kid brother who you love, but also want to throttle sometimes. I'm a bisexual alcoholic who didn't stay married very long and occasionally put too much faith in younger guys as the years wore on. I saw a lot of myself in him. For me, the really sad thing is that he didn't get treatment. Being a drinker who is ambivalent about his masculinity is no big deal in this day and age. That's one of the reasons I think it's really great that people discuss their struggles openly so others can see can see a way forward. I hope he rests in peace but if there's a lesson to be learned here, it's deal with your issues before they end up dealing with you.
Lost me
How does your sexuality relate here though? Thats where you lost me.
Just watched Roadrunner - thank you for mentioning it - amazing film and showcased the darkness/ emptiness/ search for happiness he was struggling with. Cried at the end…. Definitely recommend it to all AB fans.
thank you for this video
Thank you.
Something that struck me about the documentary is that it didn't dig at all into WHY Bourdain was the way he was. He mentions briefly having a "happy childhood" and being a screwup/black sheep, but given his life, especially the heroin addiction, it would stand to reason that there was some severe childhood trauma there.
I tried to research that too and couldn’t find anything negative about his childhood at all. I am working at an addiction counseling center now and most but not all clients had trauma in childhood. I’ve seen people with severe cocaine and heroin addiction who had a relatively « normal » childhood but have this thrill seeking personality like AB had. I must say addicts are some of the most insightful and deeply profound people I’ve ever met. Can’t wait to watch the documentary. Bourdaine was my favorite person on all of TV. Still sad about his passing.
@@OM-or3im this ☝️ biopsychsocial is a really useful model. With biology, psychology and/or social factors playing a part. Often it’s a complex combination of a persons innate temperament, shaped by their childhood experiences.
Gabor Mate does fantastic work in the field of addiction ✌🏼
Read Gabor Mater--you don't need classic "traumatic experiences"---as a sensitive, highly intelligent and receptive child, the world can easily become traumatic.
@@Gsp_in_NYC I think thats an over extension of what Gabor talks about. Its true that not all trauma requires a basis in significant trauma, but its extremely rare that significant trauma is not itself a product of significant trauma, whether known or unknown to the subject.
@@davidoconnor1773 i disagree. The sensitive child can be traumatized by very little. This is the tragedy of highly intelligent / creative kids
What bracellet rich is using on his left hand. tks
This never occurred to me, but it seems like he always had a drink in his hand, and would always be imbibing the really cheap liquor of wherever he was - the type that comes in plastic bottles. And it would often be followed by some poetic description of his hangover. Again and again and again. Alcohol is this silent but ever-present character in his shows. It's a constant among the swirling exotic scenery, all the different streets, faces, dishes. I always got the sense that although he was enthusiastic about the cultures he visited, he never went too deep into them, he never learned how these societies worked. And to me that is a much richer reward than a blast of unprocessed experiences. We all watched vicariously, wishing that we could have as exciting a life, oblivious to the costs.
addiction as a self destructive drive
He did go to Beirut when it was being bombed, he was in Beirut when it suddenly started getting bombed. Those are two very different things.
what does his shirt say? i love carbs?
Very difficult to diagnose from afar.
I will take it further and say that trauma did him in
Childhood trauma
It would be interesting to find out what happened in the early early days
I've been watching your stuff the last few days. You are excellent at interviewing and you get great people. I'm genuinely confused why you don't have more followers.
I thought your shirt said "no" carbs and I lost some respect for you... just because it seems like a shitty elitist shirt. then I saw it says
I find this speculative accusation kind of irresponsible. He has stated before that he never drank at home, never had booze in his house and actually didn't drink much outside of his show. He drank on his show as it is essentially a show which explores the world via local eating and drinking customs and most societies do like to party and drink on adult nights out. Bourdain was so open about his flaws and drug use that I don't see why he'd make a special exception for alcohol. He committed suicide during a period of heart break. He always came across as a very romantic and sentimental man (like most addicts, oddly enough).
He was bipolar or had major depressive disorder so consuming alcohol period shouldn’t have been happening.
What people need to understand is that addiction is driven by trauma. People are not just addicted to substance XYZ. They are addicted because they have untreated trauma. As one commenter said " deal with the trauma before the trauma deals with you".
Fame, power, sex, money, talent, love, traveling, spirituality... Nothing of these can heal or fix trauma, only therapy and the will and courage to look at our own past, emotions, mind, memories, experiences can heal it. This takes time... that is alot of time. and also curiosity of who you realy are.
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When he kicked heroin, other drugs when he was younger, he should have stuck with it, everybody loved him, I Certainly did, watching him pound vodka with that RUssian guy had to make you wonder where this was going to lead..
he looked a bit let down to realize he's NOT an addict. :)
I believe his death was an accident. No note, used the belt from the bathrobe he was wearing…seems like an obvious case of auto-erotic asphyxiation.
He lived life more than 99.9 percent of all of you....
I think was more mental illness and drugs.
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he committed suicide ? 🤔 come on man ..
What, did Hillary kill him too?
Ah, bless us kind yogi, bestow upon us the harvest of the one singular scythe-like vision of the true reality. And perhaps lay upon us an iota of evidence for your claim. Or is that just something you dispense with altogether when you are a true visionary?
Hope we aren't blaming " the woman" for his demise.
No, they're pointing out that the lack of therapy led him to seek out a toxic relationship which in turn led to more emotional pain. Same as for women who end up with toxic partners... it can happen to men too.
calm down
Hope we aren't absolving all women from the human capacity for doing wrong. As we don't for men either.
He had alot of hardships going into the relationship, but like it usually goes- the woman took advantage of his emotional state and ended up cheating on him and rubbing it in his face.
whats the point of saying this?