TURKIC: TURKISH & GAGAUZ

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  • Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2024

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  • @DatBowlingGuy
    @DatBowlingGuy Год назад +191

    Gagauz is the only Oghuz Turkic language with a grammar order same as the Indo European languages. Probably a result of long contact with Romanian and isolation from other Oghuz Turks.

    • @saebica
      @saebica Год назад +13

      Correct

    • @keptins
      @keptins Год назад +19

      It is just SVO. The rest is fully Turkic. I think it is due to Balkan Sprachbund.

    • @forgottenmusic1
      @forgottenmusic1 Год назад +14

      The contact has been mostly with Bulgarian though, they moved from Bulgaria to Bessarabia 200 years ago, and even there were settling side by side with Bulgarians.

    • @forgottenmusic1
      @forgottenmusic1 Год назад +8

      @Cypher Both Bessarabian Bulgarians and Gagauz used to live in Bulgaria. Budjak (the southern part of Bessarabia) was for centuries under Ottoman rule, and largely inhabited by the Nogai Tatars, who were expelled, when the area was conquered by Russia in 1812, and new settlers, including Bulgarians, Gagauz and Germans, were moving in.

    • @sheetsofderya
      @sheetsofderya Год назад +1

      I also noticed that. If not mistaken, Gagauz has that “relative clause” structure which haunted me when I first saw. In the Gagauz version of the song Katyusha, I came across this expression: …türkü çalardı yürekten gözel bir oğlana, hangisini o pek çok severdi.”

  • @akbas6341
    @akbas6341 Год назад +68

    As a Turkish, I nearly understand Gagauz completely.

    • @Gulmelikvideolar
      @Gulmelikvideolar Год назад +1

      Ne anlıyoruzsun anlatsan bana

    • @akbas6341
      @akbas6341 Год назад +11

      hepsini anlıyorum tamamen aynı dil zaten@@Gulmelikvideolar

    • @eraywayne2165
      @eraywayne2165 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@Gulmelikvideolarneyini anlatacak aynı işte duymuyon mu

    • @iamorthodox_gagauz
      @iamorthodox_gagauz 4 месяца назад +3

      ​@@akbas6341Turkish and gagauzian is almost same language.I can speak Turkish people without translate as a gagauzian

    • @phantom_yt5176
      @phantom_yt5176 3 месяца назад

      @@iamorthodox_gagauz do gagauz people consider themselves to be descendants of pechenegs or Seljuks?

  • @jfkgkgkhkhjgkgjgjg5914
    @jfkgkgkhkhjgkgjgjg5914 Год назад +50

    Türkçe kısımda Tanrı, Gagavuzca kısımda Allah deniyor. Çok ironik.

    • @savme37
      @savme37 4 месяца назад +3

      Çünkü Gagavuz Türkçesi hiçbir zaman "dil devrimi" yaşamadı. Ve onlar teslis inancında İsa'nın babası olan büyük tanrıya Allah derler. İsa'ya da Yesuğ derler.

    • @mrraven9790
      @mrraven9790 2 месяца назад

      ​@@savme37dil devrimi yaşamadığı için mi Rusça konuşuyorlar

  • @alfha1399
    @alfha1399 Год назад +41

    Gagauz's syntax isn't similar to other Turkic langauges. It's maybe an effect of the surrounding languages.

    • @keptins
      @keptins Год назад +13

      Gagauz syntax is fully Turkic other than the fact that it is SVO (the verb comes before the object) and that it bears some features of the Balkan sprachbund. Thats it.

    • @alfha1399
      @alfha1399 Год назад +3

      @@keptins I see. What about the sentence "kim inanacek ona" ? It is like a word-to-word translation of "who will believe in him" and it doesn't sound Turkic. So is it a bad translation or a different use?

    • @keptins
      @keptins Год назад +2

      @@alfha1399 in Istanbul Turkish it would be “kim ona inanacak?” They are almost identical other than the place of the verb. Also “kim inanacak ona” is also correct in Turkish as well albeit not that common.

    • @alfha1399
      @alfha1399 Год назад

      @@keptins No, I didn't mean that. In the text of the video, there is "kim inanacek ona, kaybelmesin" and it's Turkish translation is "ona inanacak olanlar, ona inanan kişiler, mahvolmasın". So I meant this, not the question form. If there isn't a grammatical difference between languages, then this must be a bad translation, I think.

    • @DatBowlingGuy
      @DatBowlingGuy Год назад +3

      @@alfha1399 No, actually the translation is accurate and not faulty. The thing is that Gagauz people don't use "olan" to connect words in a sentence duo to influences from foreign languages so instead they would say it in the same order as in English.

  • @09Zaza
    @09Zaza Год назад +21

    Gagauz sounds like russian or ukrainian people in turkey speaking turkish

    • @mykytka7133
      @mykytka7133 Год назад +9

      I speak both Ukrainian and Russian, and gagauz sounds more like russian or moldovan, but not Ukrainian

    • @mykytka7133
      @mykytka7133 Год назад +2

      @@cypher221 yes, i know, i was supposed to say Romanian

    • @alexstorm2749
      @alexstorm2749 Год назад +3

      @Cypher
      Moldovan existed just before a Romanian citizen Maya Sandu decided it shouldn’t exist. Interesting. And it does exist in Transnistria. BTW Romanian is a creole language. Many linguists believe that the pre-19th century Romanian language was basically Slavic, subjected to Latin influence. Cyrillic alphabet was Romanian’s original script for centuries and they did switch to the Latin script some 160 years ago, cause it’s more prestigious, I guess. Romanian philologist Alexandru Cihak considered Romanian to be a Creole language. In his dictionary of the Romanian language of 1879 there were 20.58% of words of Latin origin, 41% of the Slavic origin. But in the Romanian dictionary of 1931 (I. Candrya, G. Adamescu) there were 20.6% of words of Latin origin, 29.69% of French, 16.59% of Slavic. Romanian is a made-up language.

    • @mishacol
      @mishacol Год назад

      @Cypher вот опять страдания по румынскому языку. ты еще скажи что сталин лично придумал название молдова.😂

    • @yevgenakkerman7369
      @yevgenakkerman7369 Год назад

      @@mishacol потому что не было никогда молдавского

  • @tatarozcan5943
    @tatarozcan5943 Год назад +8

    Gagauzlar Türk, Türkler Gagauzdur aynı ırk aynı dil ve lehçe.Oğuz Türkçesi ile konuşan kardeşler, Azeri=Gagauz=Türkiye=Türkmen

  • @KoraySelduman
    @KoraySelduman 8 месяцев назад +4

    Bulgarian, Macedonian, Bosnian Turkic speakers speaks actually nearly gagauz accent but they still publish media and write as Türkiye Turkish.
    lost sounds H Y and lots of ü and ö.

  • @ahmetsozer8113
    @ahmetsozer8113 2 месяца назад +1

    Gagavuzca ve Türkçe’de kelimeler birbirine benzerken, şu cümlede dikkatimi çektiği üzere Gagavuzca söz dizimi hususunda Hint-Avrupa dillerinden etkilenmiş. Bir cümle içerisinde çok fazla yan cümle var. İngilizler yine Almanlar kadar çok virgül kullanmazlar ama Almanlar bir cümle içerisinde bir sürü virgül kullanmak zorundadır.
    Aslında Türkçe’de “ki” bağlacından sonra virgül konulmaz diye biliyorum. İki virgülü kaldırdığımızda tüm cümlede tek virgül kullanmış olacaktık.

  • @RoseRoseRoseRoseRoseRose
    @RoseRoseRoseRoseRoseRose Год назад +42

    Gagauz is almost the same like Türkçe but a little bit mixed-up with influences from the Po-Russki yezik. I understand it very well as Turkish language speaking Kurdish Chechen lady. ❤

    • @IlluminatingLamp
      @IlluminatingLamp Год назад +6

      We have Ms. Worldwide here 😮

    • @RoseRoseRoseRoseRoseRose
      @RoseRoseRoseRoseRoseRose Год назад +2

      Gelek spas/ thank you very much, you two beautiful souls ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜❤️

    • @caralhoguy
      @caralhoguy Год назад +1

      @@RoseRoseRoseRoseRoseRoseKurdish and Chechen hmm interesting. I did read of some Chechens assimilating into Kurdish villages etc

    • @ramdas363
      @ramdas363 Год назад +9

      >Turkish language speaking Kurdish Chechen
      What did I just read?

    • @mattiamele3015
      @mattiamele3015 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@ramdas363She is a Chechen citizen of Kurdish descent, and she can speak Turkish.

  • @dvinb
    @dvinb Год назад +9

    Is this Gaguz or Balkan Gagauz Turkish?

  • @LearnRunes
    @LearnRunes Год назад +18

    Has Gagauz ever been written in a non-Latin script?

    • @nationalanthemsofallcountr8333
      @nationalanthemsofallcountr8333 Год назад +21

      Yes, with Cyrillic also:
      Бир
      Ики
      Ӱч
      Дӧрт
      Беш
      Алты
      Эди
      Секиз
      Докуз
      Он
      Зерӓ Аллах ӧлӓ пек севди бу дӱннейи, ани верди бириӂик Оолуну, ки херкези, ким инанаӂэк Она, кайбелмесин, ама дивеч йашасын.

    • @DatBowlingGuy
      @DatBowlingGuy Год назад +14

      @@nationalanthemsofallcountr8333 Thanks to Gagauz, now we got to learn how Turkish written with cyrilic would have looked like haha.

    • @niccolocanepa94
      @niccolocanepa94 Год назад +1

      Greek is the original script of Gagauzes

    • @mishacol
      @mishacol Год назад +1

      Yes, Cyrillic and Greek.

  • @Kartlos1
    @Kartlos1 Год назад +16

    Kinda ironic how Christian Turks say Allah while Muslim Turks say Tanrı (I'm not sure of the origin but I'm assuming it comes from the word "Tengri")

    • @a.nakins
      @a.nakins 8 месяцев назад +3

      muslim turks say Allah too because of the arabic word

    • @SametBayam
      @SametBayam 6 месяцев назад +1

      Actually Allah and tanrı dont have same meanings. Allah means a spesific tanrı which is about İslam. Tanrı is a general name for all of them. Ez: if tanri = City , then the other equel to İstanbul. Also in Arabic there is a word, ilah which is same with tanrı

    • @Katsan-b4j
      @Katsan-b4j Месяц назад

      Because the Turks were worshipers of tengerism like the Mongols

  • @eren_toons
    @eren_toons Год назад +24

    Gagauz got me same as Turkish

  • @izzatsufian2796
    @izzatsufian2796 Год назад +14

    Turkic ethnics are refer god as Allah but not Turkey themselves.

    • @AsylumDaemon
      @AsylumDaemon Год назад +19

      In Turkish we use both

    • @ArdaSReal
      @ArdaSReal Год назад +9

      The general word for god is Tanrı, Allah is the specific islamic god and treated as a name, not a word. But it is interchangeable mostly

    • @Solotocius
      @Solotocius Год назад

      ​@@ArdaSRealcorrection: the word "Allah" is literally the Arabic translation of the word "Tanrı (God)". They have the exact same meaning, and Christians whose language have Arabic influence often call God "Allah" as well. It's not really a seperate word.

    • @ArdaSReal
      @ArdaSReal Год назад +2

      @@Solotocius That is for arabic tho. Im speaking for the Turkish perspective, in which "Allah" is a name and the generic word for god is different

    • @Solotocius
      @Solotocius Год назад

      @@ArdaSReal the typical Turkish usage of the word doesn't change it's actual meaning, so to speak.

  • @umutkiran3035
    @umutkiran3035 Год назад +3

    Balkan Türkçesi Gagauz dili 🈴

  • @Yetimhanekundakcisi_3155
    @Yetimhanekundakcisi_3155 Год назад +3

    Cyrillic
    Бир
    Ики
    Ӱч
    Дӧрт
    Беш
    Алты
    Еди
    Секиз
    Докуз
    Он
    Зерӓ Аллах ӧлӓ пек севди бу дӱннейи, ани верди бириӂик Оолуну, ки херкези, ким инанаӂэк Она, кайбелмесин, ама дивеч яшасын.

    • @velicyatan5545
      @velicyatan5545 Год назад +3

      Lailahaillallah Muhammadar Rasulullah Allahu Akbar Alhamdulillah 🥰🤗

  • @09Zaza
    @09Zaza Год назад +3

    Can you do zazaki language and persian? Or zazaki language and balochi

  • @ayg6694
    @ayg6694 Год назад +11

    Dillerimiz çok benziyor. Gagavuz Türkçesinin Kırım Türkçesine daha yakın olduğunu sanırdım.

    • @ac14899
      @ac14899 Год назад

      Onlar zaten Kırım Hanlığı halkı rus imparatorluğu tarafından hristiyanlaştırılmışlar

    • @Can-vl8sl
      @Can-vl8sl Год назад

      @@ac14899 Gagavuzlar kırımlı değil ama evet hanlıklar tarafından yönetilmiş olabilir. Gagavuzlar çok daha önce hristiyan oldu aynı ilk bulgarlar gibi tek fark gagavuzlar slavlaşmadı. Gagavuzlarn bir Oğuz boyun olan Peçeneklerin soyundan geldiği düşünülüyor.

    • @AhmetDeniz-cp9js
      @AhmetDeniz-cp9js Год назад +1

      Kırım tatarcası benzemiyor

    • @ac14899
      @ac14899 Год назад

      @@AhmetDeniz-cp9js evet benzemiyo. çok temiz Türkçe konuşuyorlar, en temizi hatta. peki bu Allah kelimesi nereden gelmiş

    • @Can-vl8sl
      @Can-vl8sl Год назад

      @@ac14899 Osmanlı etkisi olabilir. Kırımca da aslında kıpçak grubuna ait ama osmanlı etkisinden dolayı kırımca oğuz grubundaki türk dillerine çok benziyor.

  • @Davlavi
    @Davlavi Год назад +3

    Very cool.

  • @fabricioalencar140
    @fabricioalencar140 Год назад

    Hello
    How are doing?
    I would like to request a video of the Nahuatl language (Aztec language)

  • @naufalrizkyrahardian9656
    @naufalrizkyrahardian9656 Год назад +6

    0:25 Gagauz call the God "Allah" despite being majority Orthodox Christian, while Turks call the God "Tanrı" (Tengri, I guess?) despite being majority Muslim.

    • @barbar5822
      @barbar5822 Год назад +23

      "Allah" is the Arabic word for God, while tanrı (Turkish & Azerbaijani) is a Turkic term for God.
      We use Allah to refer to the God of Islam, while with Tanrı we can refer to any God (Christians', Jews', etc.).

    • @edwardelric5019
      @edwardelric5019 Год назад +1

      ​@Cypher Interesting....

    • @keptins
      @keptins Год назад +1

      In the clip, they used a passage /verse from the Bible. Thats probably why they used “Tanrı” instead.

    • @metternich_999
      @metternich_999 Год назад

      @@cypher221 Do you guys have a hard time learning Italian, or is it easier due to the similarities? Or do you learn Latin because of religious lessons?

  • @valevisa8429
    @valevisa8429 Год назад +12

    Gagauz is a Balkanic population genetically related to Bulgarians,Macedonians and Montenegrins.

    • @alihanhaydar8369
      @alihanhaydar8369 Год назад +2

      Bulgatian macedonians????? They live in moldova not yours

    • @valevisa8429
      @valevisa8429 Год назад +2

      @@alihanhaydar8369 Kid ,you should go and talk to children your age.This is a grown ups channel.

    • @alihanhaydar8369
      @alihanhaydar8369 Год назад

      @@valevisa8429 gagauz people are genetically moldovian and tatars not bulgarians or macedonians.I think you are a kid who doesnt know geographyw

    • @DatBowlingGuy
      @DatBowlingGuy Год назад +4

      Correct. Several genetic studies made on the Gagauz minority residing in present-day Moldova have shown that they actually share more closer genetic ties with their regional neighbors compared to any other Turkic speaking group. In fact the Hungarians have a similar situation as they are also genetically closer to those around them than any linguistically related Uralic nation

    • @valevisa8429
      @valevisa8429 Год назад +1

      @@DatBowlingGuy In case of Hungarians there is no secret.When Magyar tribes arrived,they found a local population in which the majority was Slavic.Their genes just got diluted in the more numerous local pool.

  • @frms7571
    @frms7571 Год назад +2

    it's the same language?

  • @user-zadeu2makarites
    @user-zadeu2makarites Год назад +3

    Nice❤

  • @nesrinnessart
    @nesrinnessart 11 месяцев назад

  • @eraywayne2165
    @eraywayne2165 Год назад +1

    so same

  • @epokman
    @epokman Год назад +3

    Æ

  • @viperking6573
    @viperking6573 Год назад

    No audio * megamind meme *

  • @mstkli222
    @mstkli222 Год назад +3

    these are the closest languages ever

  • @Aligrsy35
    @Aligrsy35 5 месяцев назад

    Türkçe kısmında tanrı deniyor ama gagvuz kısmında Allah. Allah arapça gagvuzlardada ya Tengri ya tanrı denmesi gerekiyor

    • @iamorthodox_gagauz
      @iamorthodox_gagauz 4 месяца назад +1

      Biz Gagauzya'da Mesih'den veya babadan bahsederken Allah kelimesini de kullanıyoruz.Hatta Gagauz ilahilerini dinleyen biri isen Ortodox ilahilerimizde bile Kurtarıcı'yı bazen Allah olarak çağırırız.Aziz Allah Gagauz ilahisini dinlemeni öneririm.

  • @mrraven9790
    @mrraven9790 2 месяца назад

    En azından ezanı zorla Türkçeleştiren olmamış pardon kilisenizi...

  • @Mirko1913
    @Mirko1913 Год назад +12

    As per a Gagauz from Varna: Gagauz are linguistically Turkifed Orthodox Bulgarians

    • @eraywayne2165
      @eraywayne2165 Год назад +9

      no

    • @AsylumDaemon
      @AsylumDaemon Год назад +33

      And Bulgarians are Slavicized Turks

    • @sythe5579
      @sythe5579 Год назад +13

      There is no problem except that the Bulgarians are actually Turks. Gagauz are Oghuz Turks. Bulgarians Onoghur.

    • @Mirko1913
      @Mirko1913 Год назад +2

      @wratch He is originally from a village that used to be called Ceferli not too far away from Varna. He hates the language of the Gagauz and prefers to be perceived as a mainstream Bulgarian, both Slavic and Orthodox.

    • @umutkiran3035
      @umutkiran3035 Год назад

      ​@@Mirko1913Varna da kafayı çeken romanlara sordun herhalde 😂 Gagauzlar 100 yıl önce Bulgaristan'da yaşıyordu fakat bugün hepsi Bulgar oldu 🈴

  • @trollardo9720
    @trollardo9720 Год назад +3

    Butun Turk dillerinde "At"'in ayni olmasi atlarin nekadar onemli oldugunu gosteriyor kulturumuzde.

    • @mmehmed
      @mmehmed 11 месяцев назад

      Gagauzcada at dil, biigir o