Aegis Vanguard Harbinger | A Star Citizen's Loadout Guide | Alpha 3.11

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  • Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024

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  • @ltmuffler3482
    @ltmuffler3482 4 года назад +19

    In our fleet, we want two mid sized ships for battle group defense to coincide with the 4 hornets on the flagship Kraken's pads. It wasn't hard to decide on Harbingers over Redeemers or Wardens. A sentinel was a consideration, but we felt that 2 Harbingers represented a significant threat to enemy fighters and to light or heavy bombers aiming at the battle group's larger vessels. Your build here helps exemplify our reasoning. It's just a very strong, tanky heavy fighter-bomber. Yes, the Redeemer looks like it will significantly out gun the Vanguard series, but at a whopping crew cost. To me, that amount of crew serves a better purpose on a hammerhead.

  • @SubliminaLstv
    @SubliminaLstv  3 года назад +9

    Updated Load-out ► subliminal.gg/aegis-vanguard-harbinger-loadout/

  • @_JB89
    @_JB89 3 года назад +2

    Decided on a Harbinger after watching all your videos on each variant! Thank you for the top tier content. Subbed for sure

  • @richstiner7404
    @richstiner7404 4 года назад +1

    I have been practicing with the Harbinger during the Gladfest, and I finally worked out how to take those guys down.
    1. You discuss the ship capabilities, but a lot of these fights depend more on the pilot and the user interface. By that, I mean M&K, HOTAS, HOSAS, or whatever other acronym you can come up with.
    2. Acceleration can work against you, I'm more of a control guy than a fast guy - fixed weapons demand this discipline.
    3. Repeaters are good with gimbals - cannons work better with fixed. Time on target doesn't always afford you the luxury of waiting for the bucket to fill with a hose - you want water balloons and timing. I tried all the suggestions from the video, and while the suggested bespoke weapons are spot-on - I've had better time to kill with the M7A. That could just be because of my play style.
    4. I don't worry about stealth - I'm never red and they don't get an audible warning that I'm there until weapons lock. Saying that, I'm referring to crowded Grim Hex during a kill contest. When bounty hunting a live player in empty space (until they nerf it), I know the precise distance to the target. I can let speed be my stealth, comin' in hot and slowing with weapons lock.
    5. Missiles are nerfed in this patch, they kill only AIs. I use missiles as a distraction, then I pounce while they are dodging and chaffing. I dish out up to 19 distractions during a dogfight - I doubt you can dis a mis loadout.

  • @ramirolopez7548
    @ramirolopez7548 9 месяцев назад

    Thank you for the load out I didn't realize you had were to buy all the components

  • @CMDR-Ashtar
    @CMDR-Ashtar 4 года назад +3

    Another great video!!! Never thought about splitting up the fixed nose guns, I'll have to try it out thanks for the tip.

    • @SubliminaLstv
      @SubliminaLstv  4 года назад +1

      I tied full distortion and mixed it because a subscriber recommended it. Glad I waited to post my build.

  • @kingslaphappy1533
    @kingslaphappy1533 2 года назад +1

    I really enjoyed this vid and now I want a Harbinger. Thx!

  • @thingsido6067
    @thingsido6067 3 года назад +1

    This thing is a beast, tested it in the Invictus week, made serious cash on bounty's with, bought in game, love it!!

  • @RX-qj7jz
    @RX-qj7jz 4 года назад +2

    love you my Man! HARBINGER BLOODLUST SLAUGHTER MODE ON,
    Id fight till death in my every lifetime in PORT OLISAR!

  • @PopskuII
    @PopskuII 3 года назад +1

    you are showing an fr-66 at 4:02. amazing video. thanks

  • @damonvonschweikert131
    @damonvonschweikert131 4 года назад +7

    Was waiting for this build, thank you.

  • @doa1124
    @doa1124 4 года назад +6

    Yes been waiting for you to do a load out on the harbinger. Everyone is going crazy for the MSR. Myself I’m waiting for the Corsair. Although I can’t wait to see what load outs you do with the MSR....

    • @thingsido6067
      @thingsido6067 3 года назад

      the Corsair.. isn't it the flying size7 cannon?

    • @doa1124
      @doa1124 3 года назад +1

      @@thingsido6067 No Ares Ion is.

  • @Brodie9666
    @Brodie9666 4 года назад +2

    Thanks another great Video.
    I would LOVE to see you do a buyers/load out guide on the Eclipse!!!
    Or maybe something different like The Mole.

  • @MrGgdan1
    @MrGgdan1 3 года назад +2

    great vid again.just bought that ship yesterday and i wonder if as pilot you can remotly use the turret??,... keep up the good work

    • @SubliminaLstv
      @SubliminaLstv  3 года назад +2

      Unfortunately not. That would be too OP. Hiring an NPC will be possible in the future.

    • @MrGgdan1
      @MrGgdan1 3 года назад

      @@SubliminaLstv ok thanks should be very interesting

  • @kaymay5903
    @kaymay5903 3 года назад +3

    For anyone coming back to this vid, I replaced the missiles with 4 423 missile racks so that I could get 8 size 3 missiles, and shoot 4 off at one time. Missiles aren't very good rn, but this is great in pve.

  • @TJ-wq1ue
    @TJ-wq1ue 4 года назад +2

    Been running a revenant and the ATVS distortions And have been destroying everything pvp and pve. Such a beastly ship

    • @SubliminaLstv
      @SubliminaLstv  4 года назад +1

      A ballistic mix is good too for PVP.

  • @tripperdan
    @tripperdan 4 года назад +2

    Thanks for the guide! Going to tweak my Harbinger some accordingly, though I don't think I'll worry about stealth at all.
    I will say that the ability to modify your ship seems to have taken a step backwards. Yea, I understand they wanted to prevent some things, but dang. Now a player can't even use consumables with the Prospector in the field.

  • @majboomer1285
    @majboomer1285 4 года назад +1

    My build was almost exactly what you suggested...even down to the 2 AVTR and 2 GVSRs in the nose. I do use the Galdereen instead of the Attrition though. Nice Video!

    • @SubliminaLstv
      @SubliminaLstv  4 года назад +1

      Good stuff! Both the Attrition and Gald are great weapons.

  • @Mr.Phesadent
    @Mr.Phesadent 4 года назад +3

    Another SubliminaL upload, Ohhh yeahhh! I recently bought a Warden after your video, but debating on the Sentinel now after some rough PVP. What's your take now?

  • @Hairyloft
    @Hairyloft 4 года назад +1

    Great vid, glad I found your channel

  • @Anachroschism
    @Anachroschism 4 года назад +1

    This will be the next fighter I unmelt. I look forward to trying this build.

  • @tomfoolery1967
    @tomfoolery1967 4 года назад +1

    I feel you on the Rocket Pods. Giant nope. They are the worst.

    • @SubliminaLstv
      @SubliminaLstv  4 года назад +2

      They are probably ment for air to ground targets. But with no gameplay for this yet... Trash

    • @tomfoolery1967
      @tomfoolery1967 4 года назад

      @@SubliminaLstv Even if they are, being on the top of the ship makes that awkward. You really have to angle the ship down to make that happen.

  • @scoont7153
    @scoont7153 3 года назад

    My build is the same went for S5 distortion scattergun for hunting HH. Other then that took the QuadraCell MT power supplies

  • @CarCrazyGhost
    @CarCrazyGhost 4 года назад +1

    Literally saving up for a harbinger now just bought a mantis

  • @julian3533
    @julian3533 3 года назад +1

    We need a guide like this for 3.14 pleeeaasse

  • @trobag1501
    @trobag1501 4 года назад +3

    At the 4 minute mark you show a chart of size One shield FR-66 instead of FR-76 size Two.

  • @BlueCheetah8
    @BlueCheetah8 4 года назад +2

    Hey SubliminaL i would like to make a recommendation for your ship reviews, add Acceleration as a metric for comparison. different ships may have similar top speeds but their acceleration could be drastically different. something big for flight feel and with combat, positional dominance.

    • @SubliminaLstv
      @SubliminaLstv  4 года назад +2

      To get that data the community would need to get together and accurately record the g forces in a specific test. Then some math would need to be done and then this would need to be repeated every patch to be accurate. Unfortunately its not data that's coded in because it involves every thruster... It's a "thruster fuck". Can you see how this is a logistical nightmare?

  • @almaurath
    @almaurath 4 года назад

    Love this ship. Thanks for the build!

  • @TopBoomerTv
    @TopBoomerTv 2 года назад

    Awesome video, thank you

  • @DanakarEndeel
    @DanakarEndeel 4 года назад +2

    Curse you SubliminaL! Now I'm looking at the Harbinger in my BuyBack again! :P

    • @SubliminaLstv
      @SubliminaLstv  4 года назад +1

      You should get the Sentinel 😃

    • @DanakarEndeel
      @DanakarEndeel 4 года назад +2

      @@SubliminaLstv Why the Sentinel over the Harbinger? Does it come with better components or better weapons? I was actually eyeing those 3 S5 torpedoes from the Harbinger and also like the interior color scheme. The Warden interior looks wierd with that lightblue but I haven't checked the Sentinel. :)
      Heck, I believe I still have those BUKs as well. Not sure if that's still a thing but if so maybe I could buy a Harbinger and then get a Sentinel BUK out of BuyBack too? :P

    • @SubliminaLstv
      @SubliminaLstv  4 года назад +2

      Its best to watch my buyers guide of the sentinel. The BUK system is confusing. I've seen your other comments so you know now. The sent is ugly but future skins should fix this.

    • @DanakarEndeel
      @DanakarEndeel 4 года назад

      @@SubliminaLstv Yeah, those BUKs sure are confusing now; especially with the way CIG tried to explain it, then change it, and now nobody knows what's going to happen LOL. I mean, changing them into a box of parts wouldn't work because the central module is unique for each variant. Like a Harbinger BUK would just have 3 torpedoes but no way to attach them on a Warden spaceframe? That makes no sense. :D
      The Hoplite is also very confusing as I believe it was a separate hull-locked version with a wider interior and as such you'd be unable to install other BUKs in them but then if you look under the ship you see the same rectangular outline of a BUK module.
      Otherwise if the Hoplite would work with BUKs and could install other central modules I could just buy a Hoplite and just get my Harbinger and Sentinel BUKs out of BuyBack. But I think I might be better off getting a Warden as a base to work from as I believe the Hoplite had less missile hardpoints. Not sure if the weapon hardpoints also differ for the other ships as I could have sworn the Harbinger had more hardpoints than a Warden as one point. But that was before they updated the models and gave it those shoulder-mounted internal racks... :)
      I would love to see an episode where all 4 Vanguard variants are compared side-by-side with all the hardpoints and stock components and such. Like an ultimate Vanguard series buyers guide! So if you're ever in the mood and willing to do something like that I would really appreciate it as I love watching your videos. :D

  • @crackedjabber
    @crackedjabber 4 года назад

    The stealth build I snuck up on you with the other day had the Gald, the distortions, and laser repeaters along with the Sukoran and umbra. It works well, and even fresh out of storage it can get pretty close.

    • @tripperdan
      @tripperdan 4 года назад

      The stealth build on the Sabre is pretty wicked too (even though a kill with it doesn't count for the helmet)

    • @crackedjabber
      @crackedjabber 4 года назад

      @@tripperdan nah, this was a stealth build of the harbinger. I hopped on to help Subliminal test distortion cannons.

  • @Charlouf_
    @Charlouf_ 3 года назад

    thx for the build, i noticed you never talked about overclocking, i bet u OC both shield and not weapons, but i'm not sure :)
    thx again

  • @dmitryg7592
    @dmitryg7592 2 года назад

    what planet/ station do you get the parts from? because the stores i go to don’t have the parts recommended in this video

  • @Archaon27
    @Archaon27 3 года назад

    You posted a FR-66 screencap instead of the FR-76, I'm sure someone would've mentioned it before

  • @douglasoak7964
    @douglasoak7964 4 года назад +1

    Top quality video!

  • @Atljeepboy
    @Atljeepboy 4 года назад +1

    Another great video! I wish you would do the 600i. At first I put all distortion weapons on it and i think that was a mistake. I think I need a mix of weapons but I dont know which are the best :(

    • @SubliminaLstv
      @SubliminaLstv  4 года назад +1

      Mix them with lasers. Distortions dont do hull damage so a full distortion load-out couldn't kill an aurora.

    • @Atljeepboy
      @Atljeepboy 4 года назад

      @@SubliminaLstv thats why I love your loadout videos, they tell ya what to put where. 😁

  • @RazSkull673
    @RazSkull673 4 года назад +9

    I melted my Vanguard before I knew how deadly it was. Regret...

    • @SubliminaLstv
      @SubliminaLstv  4 года назад +3

      Sorry!

    • @boratb258
      @boratb258 3 года назад +1

      Even worse if you had the buck kit where you got a 3 in one ship from a device change.

  • @blueberrywhitetea
    @blueberrywhitetea 4 года назад

    Awesome video as always! With the new distortion meta, have you made any changes on your Sabre loadout? Im still running full gimbal ballistics, but was curious if you've tried any different weapon combos now that the distortions seem to be working properly. Thanks for the great vids!

  • @jbirdmax
    @jbirdmax 4 года назад +2

    NOICE
    Actually I think it’s true. No ice in space. At least not this close to a Star/sun. Haha 😂
    DUDE! That harbinger is just so badass though.

    • @SubliminaLstv
      @SubliminaLstv  4 года назад +2

      The Harb is good. But I think the Sent is better.

    • @jbirdmax
      @jbirdmax 4 года назад

      @@SubliminaLstv I haven’t flown that one yet, but if it’s available in the next free fly event I’ll definitely check it out.
      By the way, Thank You for doing what you do.
      I know how much research can go into just one component, and you do the entire ship, not to mention your amazing comparison videos.
      As many many others do, I highly value your experience and expertise regarding these load outs. 🍺

  • @BetterThanLifeProd
    @BetterThanLifeProd 4 года назад

    The new missile rules, in 3.11, says you get one missile per rack at a time, and only if they are all the same type. So maximum throw weight, currently, requires you to run the 442's underneath and load them all up the same. So your 4 racks full of rattlers is better than splitting them.

  • @MetaMelonColley
    @MetaMelonColley 4 месяца назад

    Gonna try it in 3.23 :3

  • @ozramblue117
    @ozramblue117 3 года назад

    Mine is a bit different. I use the cross field qt as it’s very fast but gives a bit more range than the X1 (which matters when hunting players). Also for shields I went with an Umbra and a Sukaron. 50k+ shielding is not bad and the Ir is the defining stealth limitation here giving the Harb a smaller sig than many light fighters. For weapons I’ve gone simple with a huge dist scatter on the nose and all laser repeaters. For missiles I’ve gone with 16 size ones, 8 size 2s. The torps I’ve yet to hit a player with so meh. All in all it’s been a great general purpose combat build that can get in and choose its targets before committing.

  • @o0lunchboxxx0o91
    @o0lunchboxxx0o91 3 года назад

    Sukarans and deadbolt is the new meta you tank everyone and can 1 shot basically every small fighter

  • @LosAmigoz
    @LosAmigoz 3 года назад

    Noob here! So my Harbinger turret isnt even shooting. Do I need to equipped missiles to it specifically? I tried buying the Sucker Punches but they dont seem to be able to replace the rocket pods. What am I doing wrong? Any help appreciate. Thanks! 07

  • @gclef101
    @gclef101 3 года назад

    thank you so much bro

  • @ToreyPellegrini
    @ToreyPellegrini 2 года назад

    Just got my harbinger! Is this load out still relevant? Have found the front guns overheat quickly.

  • @cdbtheclaw
    @cdbtheclaw 3 года назад +3

    We really need a S5 ballistic minigun ^^

    • @SubliminaLstv
      @SubliminaLstv  3 года назад +3

      Preach! It would probably only have 2000 rounds of ammo and fire and fire at a rate of 1200rpm lol.

  • @IorekBear92
    @IorekBear92 4 месяца назад

    Only one thing of note, you mentioned having a video explaining why kilograms per second isn't a real unit of measurement? It's not kilograms per second, which would be noted as Kg/s. I believe the cooling rate would be denoted in Kelvin per second, denoted as K/s.

    • @SubliminaLstv
      @SubliminaLstv  4 месяца назад +1

      No, your misunderstanding what I said. I am saying erkul isn't displaying a unit of measurement. The k does not mean Kelvin or what most think it does. It simply denotes 1,000. So if the cooling rate of a cooler is 190,000 in the games code, erkul represents it as 190k to save space and make the site look better esthetically.
      Kilo means 1,000, it can be 1,000 of anything. Grams, watts, meters. Since this is a video game and not a science lab or real life the unit of measurement doesn't matter. At the end of the day it is just an integer a developer put into the code. The game files don't even specify a unit of measurement. The k isn't in the games code becuase a game doesn't need denoting.

    • @IorekBear92
      @IorekBear92 4 месяца назад

      @@SubliminaLstv oh I see, thank you. I assumed you just meant kilogrammes when you said kilo, only as American AC units use US tons where we use BTUs. I think. Nice to know. You'd think CIG would have had some idea of unit of measurement, before making up these numbers though.

  • @NickDurso80
    @NickDurso80 4 года назад

    Is the only way to get true EM/IR readings is to load out the ship and test it in game? Erkul only list EM when you do a build there. Would be nice to be able to test stealth loadouts without having to buy the components.

  • @Tabascodeus
    @Tabascodeus 4 года назад +3

    one of my fav ship yeeeeeeesssss

  • @cyberwraith800
    @cyberwraith800 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for this guide, I have been wondering what to do with my Harbie.

  • @paulbooij7594
    @paulbooij7594 3 года назад +1

    Can you pull the turret off and put a big cannon up there? And then solo play the ship?

    • @SubliminaLstv
      @SubliminaLstv  3 года назад +1

      So your asking to make one of the most powerfull solo ships even more powerfull buy adding another weapon?

  • @jwpipes47
    @jwpipes47 2 года назад

    Is this current or should it be modified? Gonna try it today.

  • @crowontwo
    @crowontwo 2 года назад

    Wonder if he will update this build since many of the changes that have come and gone.

  • @JoeyDee86
    @JoeyDee86 3 года назад

    Do you have any issues hitting targets with all fixed in PU? I’ve never really trusted it too much

    • @Charlouf_
      @Charlouf_ 3 года назад

      its MUCH better but it also depend on server health.

  • @Cadehighhill
    @Cadehighhill 4 года назад

    Hey Brother, it was good seeing you in the verse a few weeks ago fighting at GH. Any chance you'll have an Arrow loadout coming out?
    o7
    CadeAurion

  • @theblaznee
    @theblaznee 3 года назад

    The Attrition has damage dropoff, but the Galdereen doesn't. Not sure why that's not part of your recommendation

    • @SubliminaLstv
      @SubliminaLstv  3 года назад +1

      It would have been if I could go back in time... And also the updated link in the description reflects this change.

  • @rossdavison6526
    @rossdavison6526 4 года назад +1

    I love these video's

  • @Richard_HD
    @Richard_HD 4 года назад +1

    YES FINALLY!!!

  • @misstressscarlet
    @misstressscarlet 7 месяцев назад

    I used your updated loadout suggestion for this, but it just overheats in seconds.

  • @wemustbecomemachines2012
    @wemustbecomemachines2012 2 года назад

    very good

  • @TheEinargallardo1
    @TheEinargallardo1 4 года назад +1

    Do a Hammerhead loadout guide, please!

  • @arturojuan2541
    @arturojuan2541 2 года назад

    attrition 5 star where can i buy?
    cooler snowpack where can i buy?

  • @xAgent_Smithx
    @xAgent_Smithx Год назад

    Where is your store merch..?

  • @Ravenclaw-ql6kk
    @Ravenclaw-ql6kk 4 года назад +2

    So Sentinel over Harbinger?

  • @sparkysorcgaming1945
    @sparkysorcgaming1945 3 года назад +1

    I love your build, but will probably go with all distortion on the nose. Although, Try buying 16 rattlers.... Damn

    • @SubliminaLstv
      @SubliminaLstv  3 года назад +1

      Even after the distortion nerf?

    • @sparkysorcgaming1945
      @sparkysorcgaming1945 3 года назад

      @@SubliminaLstv Nope, just tried it with the little time I've had in game and it is def nerfed

  • @Saffrone221
    @Saffrone221 2 года назад +1

    Isee alot of savage players that destroy these type of ships in US servers with arrows.

  • @danielshort6373
    @danielshort6373 3 года назад

    I noticed that you put size 2 guns on the turret instead of size 3 missiles; can you put size 3 guns on it?

    • @ProbablyBurnt
      @ProbablyBurnt 2 года назад

      I know this comment was a year ago, but I'm currently asking myself this same question. Did you ever get any guidance on this?

  • @TheCrash1983
    @TheCrash1983 4 года назад +1

    which vanguard is best for bounty hunting missions

  • @seotenin
    @seotenin 3 года назад +1

    What would you change on this for the Xeno-Threat mission?

    • @SubliminaLstv
      @SubliminaLstv  3 года назад +3

      C-788 (gimballed w/gimball assist off) and the ballistic canons in the nose! Great for damaging enemy HHs and Idris's through the shields with penetration. Could go dual Sukorans if there is a lot of support from other players. Shield regen wouldn't matter.

    • @seotenin
      @seotenin 3 года назад

      @@SubliminaLstv
      Cool
      Thank you very much

    • @VuNguyen-wo8bp
      @VuNguyen-wo8bp 3 года назад +1

      @@SubliminaLstv is this the best way to farm money? Heard people in chat say to shoot distortions but I'm not sure

    • @SubliminaLstv
      @SubliminaLstv  3 года назад

      Hmm haven't heard about distortions... Worth a try. I seemed to get a lot with ballistics. Maybe I'll try on tomorrow stream

  • @VICT0RLAZL0
    @VICT0RLAZL0 3 года назад +1

    Please your opinion
    Harbinger vs Gladiator???

  • @imagudboi6956
    @imagudboi6956 Год назад

    Dows this still work in 3.17

  • @imagudboi6956
    @imagudboi6956 Год назад

    Does this still work in 3.17

  • @patrickspaceman305
    @patrickspaceman305 3 года назад

    Dear God.....I'm watching this hours before "Aegis" Day for the 2950 IAE...."Shut up and take my money......."

  • @rixxy9204
    @rixxy9204 3 года назад +1

    This loadout no longer applies as of 3.14 so DO NOT USE IT

  • @doa1124
    @doa1124 4 года назад +1

    Your not going to hit anything with missiles, since counter measures became op...

    • @SubliminaLstv
      @SubliminaLstv  4 года назад +1

      You can try. Make the target have to evade and get the drop on them.

  • @dnsean03
    @dnsean03 4 года назад +1

    Unfortunately missle play is trash now

  • @tabletop4455
    @tabletop4455 2 года назад

    accidentally bought the sentinel instead of the harbinger and now depressed, 2 mil down the drain

    • @SubliminaLstv
      @SubliminaLstv  2 года назад

      You should watch my videos on the sentinel it's the best of them all. Size 5 torps don't do much damage right now. The sent is more nimble and has an EMP. Manuverability is important this patch. You'll love the sentinel!

  • @boxgamingcentral8178
    @boxgamingcentral8178 4 года назад +1

    You really shouldn’t use his recommended coolers and power plants unless you are worried about detection. You should use 2 Genoa’s and 2 snowpacks. You will be Able to fire longer and overheat less when overclocked.
    Edit also don’t use the rattlers they don’t work in 3.11. I would use the spark1.

    • @Tabascodeus
      @Tabascodeus 4 года назад +4

      i don't think he's wrong, i'm using those (coolcore and eclipse) on my harbinger and other ship like a valkyrie and i don't have any issue, + he do have a point on the recovery time from an emp , this is not bc some component are grade 3 that they're bad in fact they performe beter than some grade 1 component, i was thinking the same thing as you when i just start playing but if you look on www.erkul.games/calculator you will see the power up time and other important variable, sorry for my bad english, o7

    • @SubliminaLstv
      @SubliminaLstv  4 года назад +4

      Box man your being guided by the "placebo effect". I've tied the best coolers and Power plants (highest outputs). I've recorded them firing stock, OC, ballistic, energy. They make Zero difference. I counted frames... It's all in my cooler and power plant guides. Video footage that as long as a cooler or pp has enough power draw or cooling rate it does not effect weapon overheat, thruster overheat, QT cool-down time, etc. The devs are using what they call a "Pipe System" It has no depth. I know Erkul makes it seem as though it does but the video evidence. says priority should be quick power up time or stealth. I choose stealth.

  • @Franseven
    @Franseven Год назад

    i miss the times where lodout made a difference...

  • @Booozy3050
    @Booozy3050 4 года назад +1

    Nice, I finally got this ship ingame last weekend, and it kicks butt. It can take out AI groups before they can even land a few shots. Doing kill contracts and making bank $$$