I've just purchased the R model, I've purchased the seat cowl as an extra ,it looks great ,I agree that it was down to preferance as I don't do track days ,I have the silver ice colour and in the sunshine the matalic flake certainly shines ,this is my first Triumph I've always had Suzuki in the past but this Street Triple is an amazing bike👍
For me, since I do have the obligatory 1.5h highway run before hitting some fun twisty roads, the fact that the cruise control is only available on the RS was also an important factor. That and the yellow paint of course :)
I agree, I’d go for the RS - on the strength of the paint scheme, better brakes and bar end mirrors. Lovely looking bikes. IPhone works a treat as well 👍
It seems like the RS is worth the extra money. ( seat cowl, belly pan, LCD display, sport tires, Ohlins shock, better brakes, 10 more horse power, 2 pounds lighter, and allot nicer color. Im just not into the grey color. and the yellow and red are really nice. I test road the RS and really liked it. one of the nicest sounding stock bikes I have ever ridden. and I feel at home sitting on it. unfortunately where I live the price is allot more than most other places. the only negative is that its a naked bike and I was getting hammered by the wind when riding it. as far as how the two compare. I like a tachometer that looks more like a real tach. so I don't like the look of the tach on the RS. and I like the lower seat on the R and the softer suspension. but I think I would still have to buy the RS.
It's not just the callipers that are different. The master cylinders are axial on the R and radial on the RS. The m\c tends to make a big difference, anyone that's fitted an upgraded\aftermarket one will know what I mean. Great comparison, agree on the red colour it looks great out in the wild.
In theory the R would suit my riding best but the colours would probably sway me to look at other bikes instead. I agree with you and miss the brighter colours triumph used to do. If the offered other colour options, even for a couple of hundred quid extra, would be a good move.
There's no doubt the R has to be one of the best value bikes out there... but tbf the extra money for the Rs is definitely worth it considering all the multiple upgrades... Both Brilliant bikes, probably just comes down to how much you want to spend!.. Picked up my Carnival Red RS yesterday and absolutely loved the first 100miles... what a bike!.. Well done Triumph!!..🙏❤
As to the bike comparison, thanks for that. It would be great if you could answer the rear shock difference by taking the bike to a suspension specialist or even having a tinkering with it yourself to see if it could be made similar to the R. That would make for great content as everyone else is saying they’re different but nobody has tried to address the issue.
Agree and this is the one thing missing from all reviews. If the Ohlins was set up for road use, is it comparable, or better than the R suspension? I would imagine so, but…
You need to adjust the suspension on the RS to make it more compliant on the road. Once done it rides just as well as the R if not better. So, in fact the RS is the better bike. You have a greater range of adjustment. It's just that people are not setting it up when they should do.
Agree 100% that most will go for the RS solely for the better colours & bling whether they need it or not. I have just bought the last moto2 limited edition available here in Melbourne, Australia after finding out it was available after an order was cancelled. My head tells me it will be a good investment on top of being such a fantastic bike
Great video as always, I bought a Street Triple R today, went for a white one as the grey too dull... Have to agree they should do more colours, however the deal I got was really good so couldn't justify waiting until August for red, or October for yellow RS).... Will be interesting to see how different the bike is to my current 2016 675
Extremely well done review and comparison. Hope you are fortunate enough to do this type of thing again. IPhone was excellent. You’ve got this RUclips concept down perfectly for folks that just LOVE all kinds of bikes and experiences. Thanks for all you do, you are quite the gentleman!! 👍
I personally enjoyed more this footage. It has more light, and better definition of imaging details, I think. Don’t know if the change affects the sound but it was clearly too👌🏻
Great summary, my wife is a sucker for red and we pick hers up next week! Now if they had a Caspian or Lucerne blue in the range we’d have a pair in the garage…
I've just purchased an R as I don't do track days. The red and yellow are an extra £200 making the difference £1900. Although I did opt for the belly pan at £143 plus fitting and a fly screen and visor bringing the total to approximately £10,000. For the road the R is absolutely brilliant. The white in the R is also an extra £200.
Definitely works well with the iPhone Andy👍Thanks for the additional insight, I'd love either of these but I find it odd that cruise control is an option for the track focused RS but not for the road focused R, I'd like to see more bikes with cruise now there's so many road's with average speed camera's!
Think the "R" would be more than enough for me. I dont think id fancy a morning commute on the "RS" with those tyres on it either. They look like old racing cut slicks! Shame the colours on the R arent better tho! Great vid!
I have an RS from 2020 and I suppose I had similar concerns. I’m not a fast rider and I don’t do track days but I still bought the RS. 3 and a half years on, I bought the bike outright 6 months ago because it’s so good and I intend to keep it. I set the suspension to it’s comfort setting and it’s not harsh at all. The tyres are basically road legal racing tyres but they work around town just fine… I suppose the only downside of them is I wore them both out in just over 5000 miles and they were pretty expensive for a new pair so that would be something to consider if you do a lot of miles. All that said, if I was to buy one of the new bikes I would buy the RS (even though the R would be good enough)
I have ridden Both Bikes extensively, and I really noticed how planted the RS was at high speed. This was! At higher speeds the 'R' felt loose and a little scrawly on high speed bends on the edge of the Tyre. I blamed the cheaper Tyres, but I believe it to be a combination between Tyres and Shocks. An average commuter wouldn't care or shouldn't care, however a sporty rider will notice this quickly! The iphone footage was really Good mate. you should consider a gimble for your iphone to make it easier for yourself! Thanks Bro
Thank you Mr. Flyer. I pretty much agree with all you said here. Personally the R is more than enough for me (Did I mention I own a '21 R? lol) and although the RS in yellow is most beautiful If I was buying today I'd go for the white R. Keep on rocking it !
iPhone works a treat! As an owner of a MY17 765 R.. I feel the full function TFT (no longer on R) is great. Easy to read, clear. Your review of the first gen 765 R was a key reason I took one for a blast (and promptly bought it when I returned to the dealership). Love it! Thanks for the tip! Also, loving the classic bike reviews.
@@dean-does-stuff-81I think I do! I started riding road bikes in the 1991 and raced in the early 2000s, but have been without 2-wheels for nearly 20 years. Just bought a new bike and I'm loving it all over again!
Good review Andy! IPhone looked and sounded OK to me. I too prefer the colours on the RS and would have liked one a few years ago LOL keep doing what your doing!
Camera angle good, I had noticed the fish bowl effect before, but this when looking at the bikes was much better. Loving Triumph bikes right now, excellent. On another note: Nearly a month ago now I had a RTC on my push bike taking a 'quiet' back road to avoid all the summer holiday traffic down here in Penwith Cornwall area, as a result my Triumph Tiger 900 GT Pro will not be ridden now for a good few months (missing out on all this nice weather too!). I gained speed to 28mph down hill and went round a back lane corner only to find a land rover and campervan stationary trying to pass each other, I had to ram (est. 25mph) between them. Multiple injuries including cut and black right eye (face planted the road helmet on), grazed knee, hip, sprained left elbow and wrist and finally broken right non-displaced proximal humerus and displaced distal clavicle fracture. Pain pain pain! Now trying to move after nearly a month. I can't drive ride for a few months more or lift anything. Aim of cycling was to build up my fitness having gone through a right lung pulmonary embolism last September, again didn't ride much as on blood thinners back then. 14 years ago broke five ribs on my right side smashing my right shoulder for the first time. So, my point being, thank you for providing some excellent vids to help my mental state and get me through my issues and pain. Whilst I may not ever ride a push bike ever again on the roads at 55 years young I've stopped short of selling my Triumph and look forward to September when I hope to have built my strength back up again, but noted your air vest protection vid, perhaps I may invest in the "Alpinestars Tech-Air 5 Airbag vest" to stop further bad trauma to my right should\arm ibs. Fingers crossed my recovery will go smoothly, but only able to lift my shoulder an inch or so for now:-(
Andy..Thanks for the comparison. Footage was fine....camera in HD takes years off you 😉 Crucially this may save you some time when filming ...👍 Like yiou I dont clain to be a riding god....I appreciate your humble & candid words in respect of "your" road riding of both bikes. Cheers
I have ridden both and although I have no intention of doing track days the list of upgrades and more planted feel with the steeper rake make it a no brainer for me plus that lovely cosmic yellow well worth the extra money, there's not a wrong decision though as they are both amazing bikes. Cheers Andy.
Interesting that we bikers have a need for style and performance that’s often mitigated by our sense of frugality. But, while frugality is tethered to practical matters, for the majority of us motorcycles are totally optional and have little to do with practical matters. So, for me, after deep reflection much math and complex considerations I’ve concluded . . . I’d take the yellow one.
Much awaited for video Mr Flyer, and not dissapointed. 2 great looking bikes. BUT.....the only things I would change on the R, for my sort of riding would be the colour schemes, and the rear view mirrors, to bar end ones. But as you say, neither would look out of place on the roads.
Yeah, if the extra cash wasn’t a major issue, I’d say the better brakes & additional color options would probably make the RS my choice. I would be perfectly content with either though! Edit: Just wanted to say that the iPhone worked great. I’ve never complained, but have noticed (not just on your videos) that the GoPros tend not to work that well for bike walk arounds.
I ended up with the RS as my first A cat bike went from a benelli leonchino 125cc, my god this 765 rs is a monster, i'm only 5 ft 4 as well, and the lighting i didnt know that you could switch both DRL lights on! thanks
I’ve been learning to ride on a variety of bikes, and spent a day on the R and two on the RS, and what swings it for me is the downshifter on the RS (the R is up shift only I think). Edit: possibly the R I rode was a little older, which might account for the difference.
Great comparison, as usual. You are the person whose judgement I turn to, as I think I ride in a very similar way. Re the iPhone, I thought if anything it was a little sharper but I didn’t have a problem with the previous GoPro images.
Interesting - crap in what way? All the other comments I've received so far have siad it's better (for me it looks a bit soft although I prefer the perspective)....
@@TheMissendenFlyer To be honest, I’m not all that picky as a viewer. However, the iPhone was a bit unsteady at times but not bothersome at all while the GoPro was steady with the bubble effect. Im not a fan of the bubble effect but deal with it. If I had to choose while looking closely at bikes, the iPhone wins without the bubble effect. It was surprisingly well done. Don’t lose sleep over it. You have great content. Have you tried that 360 degree camera?
I'm sure the R is more than good enough for the road and you get a damn good bike for your money. But i had to go for the RS. The cosmic yellow is stunning. I'm really looking forward to pick it up from my dealer in July.
@@TheMissendenFlyer Absolutely! I thought about going for red too - also gorgeous. Would be awesome if more manufacturers offer colours that are a bit special and grab your attention.
Same bike (Cosmic Yellow RS) and love it, just replaced the exhaust and now it sounds as good as it looks. Try set the go-pro mode to linear to remove the fish eye effect.
Probably it's not iPhone against GoPro. Each has it's pros and cons. You use both on your walk arounds. Specially on the seating position bit I would have liked a second camera to see your side instead of the front and the perspective was already a bit fisheyed. So if you use 2 cameras in 2 different positions for your garage talks? I've never made friends with the insectoid look of Speed Triples or others like KTMs, but I'm sure that to ride one must be a big pleasure. Triples are my favorite motor concept, "the best of both worlds", smooth and wild unite! I prefer the look of the Trident, more classic tho, perfect bike for sunday afternoon back lane weazzeling. And yes, Triumph rarely hits my color scheme, more classic green and less grafics. Fortunately my Speed Twin's unique black!
Reviews and wind up in garage great as always & IPhone gives a natural feel but your editing is always excellent which helps too. Love the orange on the RS. I currently have a z400 in similar colour and I would choose RS for that reason as well as mirrors.
I agree, the iPhone works well…keep using it! The rider seats look a bit different…fancy stitching on the RS? Do they feel any different to each other? Great looking motorcycles…🏍️👍🇿🇦
Nice review. Thanks. I noticed the fisheye'ing at the extremities of the picture frame on the wide views was quite bad, which was a bit off putting. The go-pro definitely provides a more professional look over all. iPhone though is better for the close up detail shots. Just my opinion.
Totally agree Mr flyer, however I love the white and collected my R last weekend. I added the belly pan, a tail tidy and bizarrely it's got the beautifully stitched seat that comes on the RS. Naturally I didn't complain lol. I'm loving it and think it looks great. Vid quality was excellent IMO. Looking forward to you picking up your RS 👍👍
Video quality and sound are both excellent. I bought an R last year in matt black, and love the finish. Also, it has a nice analogue tacho, which I far prefer to a tft display.
@@TheMissendenFlyer yes. For me It’s always obvious on the walk rounds. The quality improves when you switch to your cam. Btw my old 675 Daytona was yellow, as were my TR7 and TR6 (cars), so it’s probably just me! 😂😂
@@TheMissendenFlyer if I’m doing low light or media at home or at work, when I’m scratting around under a sugar mill, I always do it with my bigger digital camera. Bigger lens is always better in low light and eons better that a go-pro.
Hi Andy, enjoyed the comparison video, also I think the I phone footage was very good as is the Go pro, so I would say whatever is most convenient for you. Thank you.
Having bought a 2017 Street Triple RS, I would love to update to the newer more aggressive design (especially in that yellow). But it will mean an increase in seat height of 14mm (I can just about flat-foot it on my current bike). But something to note about Triumph genuine accessories - buy them when you get the bike! I bought some accessories at the beginning with the hopes of buying others later but Triumph stopped production a few years later.
Great review on 2 great bikes, not quite sure what the price difference is, but being as tight as two coats of paint cost would be the decider for me . Vid quality seemed really good especially up close. keep em coming
I definitely like the iPhone camera angle better and if you have the latest Pro model, you can get quite close to some objects when filming. And if you do decide to stick with the iPhone, there are plenty of gimbals you can use to create a really steady video.
Great info as always! Lack of availability of cruise control on the R is a big deal for me-- enough for me to get the RS even though I'd rather have the R otherwise since I street ride only.
Using the iPhone was a good choice. The action cams are great for riding, but the short focal length introduces a bunch of distortion. Incidentally, for much the same reason, I have always appreciated that you switch to your iPhone for the roadside segments.
I was just about to comment the new camera looks so much better and then you mentioned it was an iphone. That's really impressive. It gives a really nice stage with really nice depth to the picture.
@@TheMissendenFlyer Yes I did notice that, and you can see some noise in the garage shots probably because the lighting isn't good enough. You could have fixed those in post by adding a little more sharpening. Overall though, the picture looks less distorted than the Go Pro and the colour looks a lot more natural. You could easily improve the image quality by a significant margin and get rid of this softness simply by adding good lighting. This way you won't have to add sharpening later. You could of course invest in a DSLR. But, a DSLR would also benefit significantly from studio lighting, so I would encourage you to go for that first if you don't already have any. Did you record this in 4k 60fps?
...I have two DSLRs - they are a POTA to use for video though (Nikon) - I need to invest in one of those Sony mirrorless jobbies - but they are quite £££y
Definitely seems a clearer picture on the I phone 📱 Andy. Just on another note when you do these garage reviews do you find it a pain having to empty your garage first, you could almost do with have a separate place/set up to be able to do it. Great video as always 👍
If i was going to buy one, i really don`t see the point in paying the extra for the RS when the R will do everything i want. Yes i prefer the colour of the RS, yes i like the belly pan and seat cowl, but they are extra`s you could haggle with when buying. I`ve absolutely no interest whatsoever in doing trackdays, so there`s no point in buying the RS. Great summary Andy, thanks for posting.
@@TheMissendenFlyer I don`t usually watch the touring video`s, but i did watch the Italian one and thoroughly enjoyed it. Who said it only rains in Britain? 😂
Decent & helpful vid TMF. Firstly the iphone looked great / better for the garage footage imo. As for the bikes, it's heart vs head stuff I guess. If you're not going on track then the R is the one to go for but they'd always be a little bit of you saying....but the RS.... It also looks absolutely stunning compared to the somewhat drab R. Plus if you were so inclined, after you chuck on the seat cowl, bellypan & barrend mirrors etc, there's not that much in it, especially if you had it on finance.
The R would be my choice. With bar-ends and toasty grips. And I prefer the subtlety of the silver with the flake through it. Also, give me the sensible tyres. 👌
Thank you David - I thought it looked a bit soft, but generally the perspective and colour was good. Wondering whether I should take the plunge and by one of those mirrorless Sony alphas for in garage stuff (+”Bike News”)….but not sure I can do with the hassle of buying new lenses…not to mention the ££££
Both great bikes, pick a colour you like and enjoy. As far as I'm aware, the geometry change is a result of the the rear end being raised ~10mm (with a spacer maybe?) hence changing the angle of the forks (according to Stuart Wood at the '23 launch presentation). Not sure whether the RS rear suspension could be set up as per the R (by removal of spacer if this exists...) for shorter riders that use the new RS on the road and don't need the faster turn in that is achieved by raising the rear end. I say this as I have ridden plenty of road miles on a '21 765RS and it is very responsive from a handling perspective, I wouldn't want quicker turn in for the road but appreciate it might be better when used on the track as it would also improve cornering ground clearance slightly. My previous point of reference was a '16 675R which was a great bike (my first Street Triple) - comparing the two, the most noticeable differences are: lighter throttle on 765RS(electronic throttle), lighter clutch, significantly more power from mid range and up, more compliant suspension, very good quickshifter and autoblipper. The only downgrade (in my opinion) is the configuration of the TFT which seems a little fussy and difficult to read (other than speed and gear position) when compared to the old 675R or indeed the '17/'18 TFTs fitted to the 765 R and RS's. The I phone video seemed fine to me - love the content and presentation as always😉👍👍
Never noticed the fisheye with the camera, happy with the videos you put out , Beautiful bikes, Much better colours than most of the Japanese bikes , And I'm a Japanese bike fan , I'm with you two lights not one is my preference, Several differences, don't think it's worth £ 1700 ,
I live in Thailand where some models of Triumph bikes produced. The old model prior to 5” tft dash cost more than 1200GBP to replace really turns me off, given ST765 is really a lovely bike for me 😢
To me this video shot on the iPhone looks way better. I am looking to upgrade from the mt07 to something fancy. And I’m leaning towards the RS. Did you fiddled with the drive modes in the RS. Do you think rain mode is good and not bonkers enough for an intermediate rider me.
Nice comparison. Agree on colours. I think the dash on the R is lame. The RS dash should be ok, but the tach is unreadable and other numbers small. I would love to see the turn by turn display demonstrated. I would quite like one these days.
Dribble ! I did get a test ride on the '23 R version recently. Haven't tried the RS yet. As expected, I loved it. Yes, the metallic orangey-yellow on the RS looks lovely. Red would also be fine. Silver or Grey don't do it for me (camouflaged), and white can be a bit bland. That would be the only part that would swing me towards the RS. Bar ends mirrors, I'd need to add them to the "R". They, apart from looking better, do give me a much better rear view. Less watching of my elbows ! ( I've had them on a striple, a speedie 1050, and they're on my speed twin ) I'm sure, no cruise control on either. I used that quite a bit on my speedie 1050. I miss it. Very useful for 40 MPH limits with cameras. This should really be on the RS. I can see the blanked out place where it was on the pretty much identical plastic switch gear that was on my speedie 1050 ! The smaller fuel tank capacity on the '23 striples would annoy me a little bit as compared to the tank it replaced. Maybe I should get a "pre loved" striple, in red ! Finally I'm trying to resist spending a lot of money, we'll have to see how that goes . Maybe I just need to get regular test rides :-)
Great review, as always! Both bikes look like winners to me. But one thing that seems to stand out to me more than on other bikes (or maybe I've just not payed enough attention) is that cable running along the outside of the front exhaust. I assume it's the clutch, but it just looks more exposed for some reason, like it could get snagged on something. Again, I'm probably just not that mechanically knowledgable, and this is likely a non-issue. Looking forward to your next video.
Definitely getting the RS when you factor in seat cowl belly pan better brakes colour scheme and bar-ends its a no-brainer because we all add they extras anyway Great video as usual missenden keep it up Lad
Andy, always enjoy and learn from your efforts. The iPhone approach works but could use some polish and further development. I'm sure you'll sort it out with more production / usage / experience. Perhaps Mrs. Fly can help with the phone... unless you're in doghouse purgatory from that Erin / beer misstep. 🙂 I also suggest taking the bikes outdoors, if weather allows. I read through the 200 + comments and didn't see this mentioned, so I'll add it for consideration. I realize you did not find much of a difference in the seating positions, HOWEVER, from this viewer's perspective you looked 'more forced into the tank' on the RS and 'more relaxed' in contrast on the R. Since both bikes do not have centre stands (corrected for Kings English) having someone hold up the bikes so you could sit on them properly would, I believe, be helpful to your audience. FYI, previous 2020 RS owner. Current 2024 (US) R owner. I had a choice between a red RS and a white R. Went with the R. Keep up the great work!
Hi Andy, have have seen the DJI phone stabiliser? They are awesome ahd they also have a tracking mode so on a mini tripod stand it works really well for videos 👍
Yes thanks for that I have seen them - but to be honest the built in stabilisation for the main lens is pretty darned good and saves me having to carry extra kit....
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iPhone did a great job, high definition, clear sound, stick with it.
Thanks for that Colin - I think I may well do - so far feedback seems good....
Yup. It’s - surprisingly- better!
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I actually prefer your old set up Mr flyer😊
I've just purchased the R model, I've purchased the seat cowl as an extra ,it looks great ,I agree that it was down to preferance as I don't do track days ,I have the silver ice colour and in the sunshine the matalic flake certainly shines ,this is my first Triumph I've always had Suzuki in the past but this Street Triple is an amazing bike👍
For me, since I do have the obligatory 1.5h highway run before hitting some fun twisty roads, the fact that the cruise control is only available on the RS was also an important factor. That and the yellow paint of course :)
I agree, I’d go for the RS - on the strength of the paint scheme, better brakes and bar end mirrors. Lovely looking bikes. IPhone works a treat as well 👍
It seems like the RS is worth the extra money. ( seat cowl, belly pan, LCD display, sport tires, Ohlins shock, better brakes, 10 more horse power, 2 pounds lighter, and allot nicer color. Im just not into the grey color. and the yellow and red are really nice. I test road the RS and really liked it. one of the nicest sounding stock bikes I have ever ridden. and I feel at home sitting on it. unfortunately where I live the price is allot more than most other places. the only negative is that its a naked bike and I was getting hammered by the wind when riding it. as far as how the two compare. I like a tachometer that looks more like a real tach. so I don't like the look of the tach on the RS. and I like the lower seat on the R and the softer suspension. but I think I would still have to buy the RS.
It's not just the callipers that are different. The master cylinders are axial on the R and radial on the RS.
The m\c tends to make a big difference, anyone that's fitted an upgraded\aftermarket one will know what I mean.
Great comparison, agree on the red colour it looks great out in the wild.
You got there before me on this one, Brembo radial master cylinder with ajustable span and ratios on the rs
In theory the R would suit my riding best but the colours would probably sway me to look at other bikes instead. I agree with you and miss the brighter colours triumph used to do. If the offered other colour options, even for a couple of hundred quid extra, would be a good move.
There's no doubt the R has to be one of the best value bikes out there... but tbf the extra money for the Rs is definitely worth it considering all the multiple upgrades...
Both Brilliant bikes, probably just comes down to how much you want to spend!..
Picked up my Carnival Red RS yesterday and absolutely loved the first 100miles... what a bike!..
Well done Triumph!!..🙏❤
As to the bike comparison, thanks for that. It would be great if you could answer the rear shock difference by taking the bike to a suspension specialist or even having a tinkering with it yourself to see if it could be made similar to the R. That would make for great content as everyone else is saying they’re different but nobody has tried to address the issue.
Yes good point!
It would probable boost the price to more than the RS if you purchased an upgraded rear shock.
Agree and this is the one thing missing from all reviews. If the Ohlins was set up for road use, is it comparable, or better than the R suspension? I would imagine so, but…
I agree the colour makes it. Belly pan and cowel plus tyres would add a lot towards that £1700 I’d guess too.
100% agreed on the headlights Mr Flyer. Why you'd only have half the lights working is beyond me.
Never bothered me but the irritating thing is people will constantly be telling you that your headlight is out
@@HelloImDavid1000 Haha, yes! 😅
@@HelloImDavid1000other is high beam?
@@lcgiv4u yes but nobody knows that so they will tell you one of the bulbs has gone
When I reviewed both of these recently I definitely felt the R was the better road bike ...even the sales guys said the same :)
It was a great review, Mark 👍
Totally agree
You need to adjust the suspension on the RS to make it more compliant on the road. Once done it rides just as well as the R if not better. So, in fact the RS is the better bike. You have a greater range of adjustment. It's just that people are not setting it up when they should do.
I prefer the Go-Pro tbh Andy.. I found the sound a bit clipped and distorted and the video slightly shaky. Great content though 😊
Thnaks for that - I'm with you but it seems we are in the minority going by the comments!
Agree 100% that most will go for the RS solely for the better colours & bling whether they need it or not. I have just bought the last moto2 limited edition available here in Melbourne, Australia after finding out it was available after an order was cancelled. My head tells me it will be a good investment on top of being such a fantastic bike
Yes I think youwill have got yourself a winner there!
Great video as always, I bought a Street Triple R today, went for a white one as the grey too dull... Have to agree they should do more colours, however the deal I got was really good so couldn't justify waiting until August for red, or October for yellow RS).... Will be interesting to see how different the bike is to my current 2016 675
Congratulations and enjoy!
Extremely well done review and comparison. Hope you are fortunate enough to do this type of thing again. IPhone was excellent. You’ve got this RUclips concept down perfectly for folks that just LOVE all kinds of bikes and experiences.
Thanks for all you do, you are quite the gentleman!! 👍
Wow - thank you very much!
I personally enjoyed more this footage. It has more light, and better definition of imaging details, I think. Don’t know if the change affects the sound but it was clearly too👌🏻
The RS would be my choice. That yellow paint job is spectacular. If my heart wasn’t so set on a GS, I’d seriously consider this lovely bike.
Great summary, my wife is a sucker for red and we pick hers up next week! Now if they had a Caspian or Lucerne blue in the range we’d have a pair in the garage…
Yes the red looks good!
I've just purchased an R as I don't do track days. The red and yellow are an extra £200 making the difference £1900. Although I did opt for the belly pan at £143 plus fitting and a fly screen and visor bringing the total to approximately £10,000. For the road the R is absolutely brilliant. The white in the R is also an extra £200.
Definitely works well with the iPhone Andy👍Thanks for the additional insight, I'd love either of these but I find it odd that cruise control is an option for the track focused RS but not for the road focused R, I'd like to see more bikes with cruise now there's so many road's with average speed camera's!
Think the "R" would be more than enough for me. I dont think id fancy a morning commute on the "RS" with those tyres on it either. They look like old racing cut slicks! Shame the colours on the R arent better tho! Great vid!
I have an RS from 2020 and I suppose I had similar concerns. I’m not a fast rider and I don’t do track days but I still bought the RS. 3 and a half years on, I bought the bike outright 6 months ago because it’s so good and I intend to keep it. I set the suspension to it’s comfort setting and it’s not harsh at all. The tyres are basically road legal racing tyres but they work around town just fine… I suppose the only downside of them is I wore them both out in just over 5000 miles and they were pretty expensive for a new pair so that would be something to consider if you do a lot of miles. All that said, if I was to buy one of the new bikes I would buy the RS (even though the R would be good enough)
I have ridden Both Bikes extensively, and I really noticed how planted the RS was at high speed. This was! At higher speeds the 'R' felt loose and a little scrawly on high speed bends on the edge of the Tyre. I blamed the cheaper Tyres, but I believe it to be a combination between Tyres and Shocks. An average commuter wouldn't care or shouldn't care, however a sporty rider will notice this quickly! The iphone footage was really Good mate. you should consider a gimble for your iphone to make it easier for yourself! Thanks Bro
The only reason I would go for the R/S is the colour and the dash , I hate grey and not keen on white😊
Thank you Mr. Flyer. I pretty much agree with all you said here. Personally the R is more than enough for me (Did I mention I own a '21 R? lol) and although the RS in yellow is most beautiful If I was buying today I'd go for the white R. Keep on rocking it !
iPhone works a treat!
As an owner of a MY17 765 R.. I feel the full function TFT (no longer on R) is great. Easy to read, clear.
Your review of the first gen 765 R was a key reason I took one for a blast (and promptly bought it when I returned to the dealership).
Love it! Thanks for the tip!
Also, loving the classic bike reviews.
My new, fave, must-watch channel. Thanks for all your hard work Andy!
you have a lot of catching up to do... easily the best bike vlogger, along with moto bob...
@@dean-does-stuff-81I think I do! I started riding road bikes in the 1991 and raced in the early 2000s, but have been without 2-wheels for nearly 20 years. Just bought a new bike and I'm loving it all over again!
Wow, thanks very much!
I think we'd all love a Mrs Flyer! "6 Bikes in the garage please?".... "No problem, hubby" 😂
@@PDCRed my wife tells me to buy bikes. She finds that I am not my self when I don’t own one. 🤷♂️
Good review Andy! IPhone looked and sounded OK to me. I too prefer the colours on the RS and would have liked one a few years ago LOL keep doing what your doing!
Camera angle good, I had noticed the fish bowl effect before, but this when looking at the bikes was much better. Loving Triumph bikes right now, excellent.
On another note: Nearly a month ago now I had a RTC on my push bike taking a 'quiet' back road to avoid all the summer holiday traffic down here in Penwith Cornwall area, as a result my Triumph Tiger 900 GT Pro will not be ridden now for a good few months (missing out on all this nice weather too!). I gained speed to 28mph down hill and went round a back lane corner only to find a land rover and campervan stationary trying to pass each other, I had to ram (est. 25mph) between them. Multiple injuries including cut and black right eye (face planted the road helmet on), grazed knee, hip, sprained left elbow and wrist and finally broken right non-displaced proximal humerus and displaced distal clavicle fracture. Pain pain pain! Now trying to move after nearly a month. I can't drive ride for a few months more or lift anything. Aim of cycling was to build up my fitness having gone through a right lung pulmonary embolism last September, again didn't ride much as on blood thinners back then. 14 years ago broke five ribs on my right side smashing my right shoulder for the first time.
So, my point being, thank you for providing some excellent vids to help my mental state and get me through my issues and pain. Whilst I may not ever ride a push bike ever again on the roads at 55 years young I've stopped short of selling my Triumph and look forward to September when I hope to have built my strength back up again, but noted your air vest protection vid, perhaps I may invest in the "Alpinestars Tech-Air 5 Airbag vest" to stop further bad trauma to my right should\arm
ibs.
Fingers crossed my recovery will go smoothly, but only able to lift my shoulder an inch or so for now:-(
Sorry to hear of your accident - hope you recover soon!
Andy..Thanks for the comparison.
Footage was fine....camera in HD takes years off you 😉
Crucially this may save you some time when filming ...👍
Like yiou I dont clain to be a riding god....I appreciate your humble & candid words in respect of "your" road riding of both bikes.
Cheers
I have ridden both and although I have no intention of doing track days the list of upgrades and more planted feel with the steeper rake make it a no brainer for me plus that lovely cosmic yellow well worth the extra money, there's not a wrong decision though as they are both amazing bikes. Cheers Andy.
PS i phone worked well 👍
Thanks! And I agree….
Interesting that we bikers have a need for style and performance that’s often mitigated by our sense of frugality. But, while frugality is tethered to practical matters, for the majority of us motorcycles are totally optional and have little to do with practical matters. So, for me, after deep reflection much math and complex considerations I’ve concluded . . . I’d take the yellow one.
Excellent…. Thank you very much. Definitely the Street over the Speed for me and I think colour and Mirrors warrant the upgrade for me.
Much awaited for video Mr Flyer, and not dissapointed. 2 great looking bikes. BUT.....the only things I would change on the R, for my sort of riding would be the colour schemes, and the rear view mirrors, to bar end ones. But as you say, neither would look out of place on the roads.
Yes, that would work for me too I think! Thanks for watching!
For me I also prefer the RS and the fact the front brakes are considerably superior is a big factor for me.
Not that the "R" brakes are bad, but my goodness the stopping power on that RS is somethibng else!
Yeah, if the extra cash wasn’t a major issue, I’d say the better brakes & additional color options would probably make the RS my choice. I would be perfectly content with either though!
Edit: Just wanted to say that the iPhone worked great. I’ve never complained, but have noticed (not just on your videos) that the GoPros tend not to work that well for bike walk arounds.
I ended up with the RS as my first A cat bike went from a benelli leonchino 125cc, my god this 765 rs is a monster, i'm only 5 ft 4 as well, and the lighting i didnt know that you could switch both DRL lights on! thanks
Nice 👍 ….be careful!!
I’ve been learning to ride on a variety of bikes, and spent a day on the R and two on the RS, and what swings it for me is the downshifter on the RS (the R is up shift only I think). Edit: possibly the R I rode was a little older, which might account for the difference.
Great comparison, as usual. You are the person whose judgement I turn to, as I think I ride in a very similar way. Re the iPhone, I thought if anything it was a little sharper but I didn’t have a problem with the previous GoPro images.
lol The R is likely all I need.... that yellow RS is the one I want.....
Good on you for being so honest. I do think the white you can get on the R is nice though
Just wondered why picture was crap you answered immediately
Interesting - crap in what way? All the other comments I've received so far have siad it's better (for me it looks a bit soft although I prefer the perspective)....
@@TheMissendenFlyer ok overstated, soft, not as sharp
Filming was great Andy. If pushed I would say it looked a bit sharper,if that makes sense. Cheers. 😀👍
Thanks for the feedback, appreciated!
Always enjoy watching your videos. Thanks for your hard work! The iPhone was just fine for me if it helps. Cheers!
Good to hear! Thanks for that....better than the GoPro I used previously?
@@TheMissendenFlyer To be honest, I’m not all that picky as a viewer. However, the iPhone was a bit unsteady at times but not bothersome at all while the GoPro was steady with the bubble effect. Im not a fan of the bubble effect but deal with it. If I had to choose while looking closely at bikes, the iPhone wins without the bubble effect. It was surprisingly well done. Don’t lose sleep over it. You have great content. Have you tried that 360 degree camera?
Thank you - and yes - I use the Insta 360 for some of my on bike shots....
I'm sure the R is more than good enough for the road and you get a damn good bike for your money. But i had to go for the RS. The cosmic yellow is stunning. I'm really looking forward to pick it up from my dealer in July.
Yes the yellow is gorgeous isn't it and worth the extra just for that.....congratulations!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Absolutely! I thought about going for red too - also gorgeous. Would be awesome if more manufacturers offer colours that are a bit special and grab your attention.
Agreed...
Not forgetting the R is available with a lowered seat which isn't available on the RS. Very important if you have short legs.
True!
Same bike (Cosmic Yellow RS) and love it, just replaced the exhaust and now it sounds as good as it looks.
Try set the go-pro mode to linear to remove the fish eye effect.
Thanks for the tips!
Probably it's not iPhone against GoPro. Each has it's pros and cons. You use both on your walk arounds. Specially on the seating position bit I would have liked a second camera to see your side instead of the front and the perspective was already a bit fisheyed. So if you use 2 cameras in 2 different positions for your garage talks?
I've never made friends with the insectoid look of Speed Triples or others like KTMs, but I'm sure that to ride one must be a big pleasure. Triples are my favorite motor concept, "the best of both worlds", smooth and wild unite! I prefer the look of the Trident, more classic tho, perfect bike for sunday afternoon back lane weazzeling. And yes, Triumph rarely hits my color scheme, more classic green and less grafics. Fortunately my Speed Twin's unique black!
Thanks for that - appreciate the feedback!
Reviews and wind up in garage great as always & IPhone gives a natural feel but your editing is always excellent which helps too. Love the orange on the RS. I currently have a z400 in similar colour and I would choose RS for that reason as well as mirrors.
That RS colour scheme reminds me of the Strontium Yellow of my old T595 👍
I agree, the iPhone works well…keep using it! The rider seats look a bit different…fancy stitching on the RS? Do they feel any different to each other? Great looking motorcycles…🏍️👍🇿🇦
Great to see model variants beside each other for comparison. Phone works very well.
Nice review. Thanks.
I noticed the fisheye'ing at the extremities of the picture frame on the wide views was quite bad, which was a bit off putting. The go-pro definitely provides a more professional look over all. iPhone though is better for the close up detail shots. Just my opinion.
Yes I agree....
Ohhhh I wish the nearest triumph dealer wasn’t so far away....I would have one of these in my garage for sure. Go-Pro and IPhone are both fine for me.
One difference on the RS is the plastic brake reservoir on the front brake over the anodised aluminum on the R.
Totally agree Mr flyer, however I love the white and collected my R last weekend. I added the belly pan, a tail tidy and bizarrely it's got the beautifully stitched seat that comes on the RS. Naturally I didn't complain lol. I'm loving it and think it looks great. Vid quality was excellent IMO. Looking forward to you picking up your RS 👍👍
Hmmm a mind reader!!
Video quality and sound are both excellent. I bought an R last year in matt black, and love the finish. Also, it has a nice analogue tacho, which I far prefer to a tft display.
Ditto! 😎
Great job with the i phone every thing looks great almost as if we were in the garage with you well done
Glad to hear that - thank you!
Nice vid Andy! The yellow one! 😉😉. The IPhone should be better…..as when you do your walk-rounds. Nothing wrong with the vid quality here.
Do you prefer it Steve? ...the iPhone I'm talking abpuit,not the yellow one (and I'm with you on that)....
@@TheMissendenFlyer yes. For me It’s always obvious on the walk rounds. The quality improves when you switch to your cam. Btw my old 675 Daytona was yellow, as were my TR7 and TR6 (cars), so it’s probably just me! 😂😂
The picture quality looks a bit soft to me? May just be the low light in the garage....
@@TheMissendenFlyer if I’m doing low light or media at home or at work, when I’m scratting around under a sugar mill, I always do it with my bigger digital camera. Bigger lens is always better in low light and eons better that a go-pro.
Spot on comparison, exactly what we need to know to choose between them. iPhone worked fine, audio was also good.
Thanks.....
Hi Andy, enjoyed the comparison video, also I think the I phone footage was very good as is the Go pro, so I would say whatever is most convenient for you. Thank you.
Cheers for that Stephen....
Very helpful TMF. Top work as per.
RS would be my choice.
Having bought a 2017 Street Triple RS, I would love to update to the newer more aggressive design (especially in that yellow). But it will mean an increase in seat height of 14mm (I can just about flat-foot it on my current bike). But something to note about Triumph genuine accessories - buy them when you get the bike! I bought some accessories at the beginning with the hopes of buying others later but Triumph stopped production a few years later.
Yes good tip!
Great review on 2 great bikes, not quite sure what the price difference is, but being as tight as two coats of paint cost would be the decider for me . Vid quality seemed really good especially up close. keep em coming
Thanks- will do....
Thanks for a good comparison. Between the two I’d have the R, but I only ride on the road. (I like the iPhone video in the garage.) Thanks again.
Glad you approve Marco - and thanks for dropping by once again!
Both lovely bikes, in reality it comes to the paint job for most mortals.
Yes I think it is as simple as that!
The iPhone video is excellent. No issues, IMHO. I love both bikes (former Street Triple R owner), but I'd have to get the RS. Just looks right.
I definitely like the iPhone camera angle better and if you have the latest Pro model, you can get quite close to some objects when filming. And if you do decide to stick with the iPhone, there are plenty of gimbals you can use to create a really steady video.
I like the R Triumph, the gray silver color, Its a bit lower as well which make's it easy on my leg.
It's worth the extra just for that beautiful yellow !! I've the moto2 in Kermit green but I'd love mine in that yellow ❤
I think the iPhone worked out great, none of the “distortion” of the wide angle GoPro 😉👍!
Good to know!
On the running lights, you could get a spark to rewire the off light on
Maybe - what a pain to have to do though....
iPhone quality is killer good! Been awhile since I've been out here. Nice to see you still at it.
Nice to see you again!
Great info as always! Lack of availability of cruise control on the R is a big deal for me-- enough for me to get the RS even though I'd rather have the R otherwise since I street ride only.
Using the iPhone was a good choice. The action cams are great for riding, but the short focal length introduces a bunch of distortion. Incidentally, for much the same reason, I have always appreciated that you switch to your iPhone for the roadside segments.
Cheers for that....
I was just about to comment the new camera looks so much better and then you mentioned it was an iphone. That's really impressive. It gives a really nice stage with really nice depth to the picture.
Thanks for that - you didn't think the picture was a bit soft?
@@TheMissendenFlyer Yes I did notice that, and you can see some noise in the garage shots probably because the lighting isn't good enough. You could have fixed those in post by adding a little more sharpening. Overall though, the picture looks less distorted than the Go Pro and the colour looks a lot more natural. You could easily improve the image quality by a significant margin and get rid of this softness simply by adding good lighting. This way you won't have to add sharpening later. You could of course invest in a DSLR. But, a DSLR would also benefit significantly from studio lighting, so I would encourage you to go for that first if you don't already have any. Did you record this in 4k 60fps?
...I have two DSLRs - they are a POTA to use for video though (Nikon) - I need to invest in one of those Sony mirrorless jobbies - but they are quite £££y
I’ve got to get on an R to check it out because the RS is a superb bike. Thanks for sharing
Any time!
@@TheMissendenFlyer cheers Andy
Thanks Andy, apperently putting on full beard for the vacation!!!!!!!!!!! Gotta love those Iphones?
Video quality looks great. Will you make a review of the new Triumph Speed 400 and the Scrambler 400X?
Just as soon as I can get a go on one yes! Triumph tell me likely November......so quite a wait!
Definitely seems a clearer picture on the I phone 📱 Andy. Just on another note when you do these garage reviews do you find it a pain having to empty your garage first, you could almost do with have a separate place/set up to be able to do it. Great video as always 👍
Yes I do find it a pain!! Thanks for the feedback - I thought the perspective was better but the picture quality softer???
If i was going to buy one, i really don`t see the point in paying the extra for the RS when the R will do everything i want. Yes i prefer the colour of the RS, yes i like the belly pan and seat cowl, but they are extra`s you could haggle with when buying.
I`ve absolutely no interest whatsoever in doing trackdays, so there`s no point in buying the RS.
Great summary Andy, thanks for posting.
My pleasure Neil - thanks for watching....
@@TheMissendenFlyer I don`t usually watch the touring video`s, but i did watch the Italian one and thoroughly enjoyed it. Who said it only rains in Britain? 😂
....tell me about it - infact whilst we were away it didn't rain in Blighty!
Decent & helpful vid TMF. Firstly the iphone looked great / better for the garage footage imo. As for the bikes, it's heart vs head stuff I guess. If you're not going on track then the R is the one to go for but they'd always be a little bit of you saying....but the RS.... It also looks absolutely stunning compared to the somewhat drab R. Plus if you were so inclined, after you chuck on the seat cowl, bellypan & barrend mirrors etc, there's not that much in it, especially if you had it on finance.
Great vid! To me the color scheme alone is the major reason for going for the RS . That yellow is spanking !!
I agree!
The R would be my choice. With bar-ends and toasty grips. And I prefer the subtlety of the silver with the flake through it. Also, give me the sensible tyres. 👌
Class job with the iPhone Andy. Looks superb! Great vid and I share the same thoughts exactly about that pair. 👌🎥🏍
Thank you David - I thought it looked a bit soft, but generally the perspective and colour was good. Wondering whether I should take the plunge and by one of those mirrorless Sony alphas for in garage stuff (+”Bike News”)….but not sure I can do with the hassle of buying new lenses…not to mention the ££££
I’m amazed the iPhone is a much higher quality look, like the vid😎🇨🇦
I believe with the R your brakes are linked in all modes but the RS has the ability to unlink front and rear . I think your phone worked fine .
Both great bikes, pick a colour you like and enjoy. As far as I'm aware, the geometry change is a result of the the rear end being raised ~10mm (with a spacer maybe?) hence changing the angle of the forks (according to Stuart Wood at the '23 launch presentation). Not sure whether the RS rear suspension could be set up as per the R (by removal of spacer if this exists...) for shorter riders that use the new RS on the road and don't need the faster turn in that is achieved by raising the rear end. I say this as I have ridden plenty of road miles on a '21 765RS and it is very responsive from a handling perspective, I wouldn't want quicker turn in for the road but appreciate it might be better when used on the track as it would also improve cornering ground clearance slightly. My previous point of reference was a '16 675R which was a great bike (my first Street Triple) - comparing the two, the most noticeable differences are: lighter throttle on 765RS(electronic throttle), lighter clutch, significantly more power from mid range and up, more compliant suspension, very good quickshifter and autoblipper. The only downgrade (in my opinion) is the configuration of the TFT which seems a little fussy and difficult to read (other than speed and gear position) when compared to the old 675R or indeed the '17/'18 TFTs fitted to the 765 R and RS's. The I phone video seemed fine to me - love the content and presentation as always😉👍👍
Thank you - appreciated!
I like the looks of the Red RS but for a more relaxed ride I'd buy the Scrambler 400 in Khaki Green (see future video.)
Seats also look different, at least in the upholstery with some stitching in the RS, if nothing else.
Hi Flyer😊, a compare review suggestion. Put the GSXS 750 up against the GS8.
Never noticed the fisheye with the camera, happy with the videos you put out ,
Beautiful bikes,
Much better colours than most of the Japanese bikes ,
And I'm a Japanese bike fan ,
I'm with you two lights not one is my preference,
Several differences, don't think it's worth £ 1700 ,
I live in Thailand where some models of Triumph bikes produced. The old model prior to 5” tft dash cost more than 1200GBP to replace really turns me off, given ST765 is really a lovely bike for me 😢
To me this video shot on the iPhone looks way better. I am looking to upgrade from the mt07 to something fancy. And I’m leaning towards the RS. Did you fiddled with the drive modes in the RS. Do you think rain mode is good and not bonkers enough for an intermediate rider me.
To be honest I don't think I tried rain mode....sorry! ....and thanks for the feedback on the camera...
Nice comparison. Agree on colours. I think the dash on the R is lame. The RS dash should be ok, but the tach is unreadable and other numbers small. I would love to see the turn by turn display demonstrated. I would quite like one these days.
Dribble !
I did get a test ride on the '23 R version recently. Haven't tried the RS yet. As expected, I loved it.
Yes, the metallic orangey-yellow on the RS looks lovely. Red would also be fine.
Silver or Grey don't do it for me (camouflaged), and white can be a bit bland. That would be the only part that would swing me towards the RS.
Bar ends mirrors, I'd need to add them to the "R". They, apart from looking better, do give me a much better rear view. Less watching of my elbows ! ( I've had them on a striple, a speedie 1050, and they're on my speed twin )
I'm sure, no cruise control on either. I used that quite a bit on my speedie 1050. I miss it. Very useful for 40 MPH limits with cameras.
This should really be on the RS. I can see the blanked out place where it was on the pretty much identical plastic switch gear that was on my speedie 1050 !
The smaller fuel tank capacity on the '23 striples would annoy me a little bit as compared to the tank it replaced. Maybe I should get a "pre loved" striple, in red !
Finally I'm trying to resist spending a lot of money, we'll have to see how that goes . Maybe I just need to get regular test rides :-)
Great review, as always! Both bikes look like winners to me. But one thing that seems to stand out to me more than on other bikes (or maybe I've just not payed enough attention) is that cable running along the outside of the front exhaust. I assume it's the clutch, but it just looks more exposed for some reason, like it could get snagged on something. Again, I'm probably just not that mechanically knowledgable, and this is likely a non-issue. Looking forward to your next video.
Great point!
Definitely getting the RS when you factor in seat cowl belly pan better brakes colour scheme and bar-ends its a no-brainer because we all add they extras anyway Great video as usual missenden keep it up Lad
Andy, always enjoy and learn from your efforts. The iPhone approach works but could use some polish and further development. I'm sure you'll sort it out with more production / usage / experience.
Perhaps Mrs. Fly can help with the phone... unless you're in doghouse purgatory from that Erin / beer misstep. 🙂 I also suggest taking the bikes outdoors, if weather allows.
I read through the 200 + comments and didn't see this mentioned, so I'll add it for consideration.
I realize you did not find much of a difference in the seating positions, HOWEVER, from this viewer's perspective you looked 'more forced into the tank' on the RS and 'more relaxed' in contrast on the R. Since both bikes do not have centre stands (corrected for Kings English) having someone hold up the bikes so you could sit on them properly would, I believe, be helpful to your audience.
FYI, previous 2020 RS owner. Current 2024 (US) R owner. I had a choice between a red RS and a white R. Went with the R.
Keep up the great work!
Thanks for that lot and will do!
Hi Andy, have have seen the DJI phone stabiliser? They are awesome ahd they also have a tracking mode so on a mini tripod stand it works really well for videos 👍
Yes thanks for that I have seen them - but to be honest the built in stabilisation for the main lens is pretty darned good and saves me having to carry extra kit....
Great review, cheers.
Much appreciated!