Physical Media Is NOT Dead
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Despite declining overall over the last decade, there is new evidence to suggest that in some areas, PHYSICAL MEDIA IS NOT DEAD! The UK's main high-street entertainment retailer, HMV, in fact has even claimed that their sales of DVD, Blu-Ray etc. are growing...
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Of course Physical Media isn’t dead. It’s just a bunch of nobodies who are obsessed with streaming, AI, social media etc who say it is. You can’t watch your favourites if they’re not on Netflix or Disney+, can you? so the alternative is DVD and Blu-Ray which shouldn’t be taken for granted.
DVD and Blu-ray are very volatile nowadays, their read and write speed are also not that fast. we should have moved on to non-volatile static high-speed physical storage media, what we now call "solid-state drive" (SSD). the only "downside" of SSD is that it still has high manufacturing cost, reminiscent of the ROM cartridge era.
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Wrong conversation.
Besides, optical media is non-volatile obviously as it doesn't lose data without power.
Flash storage isn't even read only so you cant compare it to optical media.
As for the RW speed? What does that have to do with the price of bread?
No codec needs anything faster than what a bluray will read at and if you are burning optical media then you are not after the speeds, are you?
Totally agree. If, like me, you have no interest in most mainstream new movies and are into cult and classics, it's always been about physical media. Been collecting since the 90s. Never subscribed to any service unless it was bundled with an offer.
Still have some VHS tapes of films that will probably never come to disc.
The media sales decline was always expected once people built up their personal collections of classic film and television. The future demand will mainly come from new releases; Hollywood blockbuster and niche/independent releases and collectors editions.
Brother, do you listen to the nonsense you say? Home formats are selling more than ever. Almost 45% of consumers want Blue Ray and 4k.
Physical media is essential whenever the internet is down or for people who live in areas where internet is scarce, not strong enough for streaming, can’t afford it or don’t bother with it
True
I've got lots of DVDs & I Love Physical Media.
My Mate has gone back to buying DVDs (mostly Marvel Films, that he is into).
And I've got him the sonic films on DVD for his 22nd Birthday (which is next week).
Hollywood WISH physical media was dead but it's not. Physical media is owned, it can be sold second hand, it doesn't have a monthly cost and it's vastly better quality. I'm going to buy another bku ray player again soon.
I bought a dvd player last november.
I'm very glad to hear this since I'm a big fan of physical media. I also love visiting HMV.
Good thing about having physical media is we can have them all in one place and don't have to pay for bandwidth and having devices full of apps cluttering up our devices
Just look at the mess with the gaming section with Microsoft, Nintendo,sony they are just as back with Microsoft closing down the 360 store
The more these streaming services remove content by closing down there services the less money they make and us the consumers are profiting by saving money due to declining services
I still buy movies on blu-ray and dvd not just to watch the movie but to watch all bonus features after the movie as I do with my concert blu-rays and dvds
I have thousands of DVD's of movies and series most cost me between £1 and £5 for second-hand DVD's Some of the old DVD's that I have are the unedited versions but modern versions of them have sections cut to appease the snowflakes that are offended by everything.
I still buy CDs, the music I like is not all available on streaming platforms, and I like to have an uncompressed pristine copy of the music that I love
Like all my favorite songs from Esc 2011.
No adverts in the middle of your movie . Simples .
Still use it. The pure reason being, there are many many releases ie film TV video and music, which NEVER MAKE IT TO STREAMING services, because they're tied up in multiple rights owners red tape, like StudioCanal Columbia TriStar Disney Warner Bros. Pathe DC Films 20th Century Fox itv Studios Global Entertainment Universal EMI Miramax Buena Vista Touchstone Sony etc, and they refuse to release that material to public consumption, because of this fact.
As the television have millions and millions of series around the world where produced, not all of them are on streaming services. There are various series avaliable on streaming, but any series someday will kicked out for streaming, including animes.
So, DVD and Blu-rays are necessary to keep the existence of a production forever.
I think some of these issues, especially with television productions were simply that the brave new world of 2024 and streaming services were not even envisioned in the wildest dreams of the contract writers.
I love still looking in physical media stores such as HMV and picking the movies and tv shows on dvd and having them in your hands and reading the back of them doing it on streaming is just not the same. Hope hmv and dvds stay around forever.
It might sound wild to still have new things coming out on DVD, but that's exactly what happens with long-running kids magical girl show Pretty Cure in Japan. Each year they have a whole new series and they release it on both Blu-Ray AND DVD!
what I don't understand is why nobody's talking how accessibility of DVD\Blu ray readers is getting worse and worse. Laptops got rid of them like 10 years ago, and connecting an external DVD-rom every time would be extremely inconvenient.
That's because it's being forced companies want digital to be forced so badly they are even willing to go as far as to take the means to watch physical away taking them from the stores out of our devices and so on after all can't use them if they are completely taken from us physical media will only go away if we as the consumer allow it the Internet will keep it alive just as much as it will doom it due to sellers on eBay and Amazon this sadly will not kill off physical media but will do so for the means to buy it while stores are doing away with them and complying to the trend Amazon and eBay will get an uptake in sales for it in there place and honestly I'm fine with that all that really does is eliminate the need to buy in person now the physical media comes to us 🤷
i can say that physical media distribution is dead in my country. 5 major studios (including Fox, Paramount, WB, and Sony) shut down the distribution back in 2015. Disney and Universal followed in around 2018 -- this was way before Australia. the last DVD plant in my region was closed earlier this year.
can i still buy physical media? yes. is it hard? yes but not because there is no stocks available, but because we need to import from US and that increases the price. shipping, taxes, its nightmare.
so i always say that if you still have up and running physical media distribution in your area, support and enjoy it while it lasts.
will physical media be completely dead? yes, in certain parts of the world (no need to argue, its dead here in my country and many other markets) but looking at vynil, i dont think it'll be gone everywhere. but it will become niche"er" and niche"er". we need to continue our support for physical media, including to conversations like this video. it keeps the fire burning 😊
Which country is this?
Physical media all the way. Most streaming platforms are garbage with restricted and censored content that caters mainly to mainstream tastes (i.e. Hollywood films and reality television).
Blu Ray is a great format for cineasts and there are some really wonderful boutique labels that cater for vintage/leftfield tastes.
The gaming industry especially wants physical media extinct, so they can take away your ownership, choice and then charge you exorbitant prices with no alternative.
Vote with your wallet and don’t (literally) buy into their game plan.
The physical format is winning over streaming
We like to dip in and out of subscription services if they have a series we want to watch. Blu Ray was mainstreamed by the PS3.
We make our own schedule now out of DVD, BD & 4k/UHD Discs.
Increasingly using iPlayer, itvx, 5, 4od etc - especially enjoying old WHO & Jeremy Berry as Sherlock Holmes.
Being someone who’s an 80’s kid. I used to love going to a video rental stores and looking at the box art for films and that used to sell me on films. I love physical media. I love owning steelbook’s and the box art that comes with it. I can spend hours in HMV browsing through the Blu-ray and 4K area.
DVDs are definitely still worth buying and selling. I am quite attached to the DVDs I DO have (some of which are 20 years old) and my new TV capable of 4K and HDR (for gaming) has a 'corrective' or active upscale feature. I have a DVD of a 20-year old Jackie Chan movie that we watched for movie night recently and the TV was able to upscale it for its size and pixel volume quite nicely.
Meanwhile I'm still waiting for the HD upscale of Star Trek Deep Space Nine to be sold...
Hey Adam, DVD is absolutely perfect for all those older TV shows that were made in standard definition anyway. High Definition and Ultra High Definition (4K) are very recent technologies. Another thing about buying a physical disc, it will always be the same version. A lot of streaming services are "editing" content to cater for modern audiences and a lot of content, deemed too offensive to some, are not being streamed anywhere. You see that's another thing, not everything is available to stream. I personally have a good collection of DVDs, blu rays and 4ks, but I also have just the one streaming service, it's a good balance for me.
Indeed, DVD is very elderly as a format and it’s only PAL/NTSC resolution; great for old VT produced programs or some film productions where no decent film scans or TKs were made.
Whether there’s an argument for buying anything made in something better than PAL/NTSC on DVD I’m not convinced.
For Most stuff I know I won’t be bothered about rewatching it. But for the few thing I’ll know I want to go back to (*cough* Doctor Who) I do but on physical.
It's not dead, just smaller and more specialist. HMV is a fantastic retailer across the land especially the Oxford Street flagship store.
HMV have excellently curated sales displays, especially with 4K and Blu-ray which quality wise, especially with 4K, cannot be rivalled streaming with bitrates available. Most of the older films shot on film and rescanned then transferred to 4K look lovely, some with a gorgeous level of film grain, all enhanced by HDR.
The only downside is a lot of titles have much shorter production runs, so if you want a title, buy it when you can.
It's not smaller and specialist like you suggest yet, thats what HMV were saying it wasn't.
Vynil is small and specialist
I’m sure that DVD’s and Blu-ray’s are here to stay. I would also love VHS Cassettes and Laserdisc’s.
Nope, the physical format came to crush streaming
I only use streaming services for films and show that are not available for DVD or Blu-Ray but I’m a big supporter of Physical Media so just because streaming services are popular, doesn’t always mean that it has to be the answer to everything. example a show I watch a lot as a kid Jim Henson’s The Hoobs, only 36 out of the 250 episodes are available for DVD (across U.K, USA & Australia) except for Season 3 of that show but the first 125 episodes of that show is available on Kidoddle TV, the other half I’m not sure.
It isn't just dvd's. Vinyl is making a comeback as well. Although, to be honest $32 for a copy of Let it Be is a Bit much.
Nothing against records as long as it’s still physical media but I think cds 💿 are more cheaper and it’s their turn to make a huge comeback in 2025 like records did and cds are smaller and take up less space
Tv shows that are old I grew up with are only on 📀 so that’s why I still buy them 😅😅😅
For sure it is not death, here in Germany you can buy CDs, its normal even in 2024.
Artist are keeping physical media alive also u can buy their records or cds 💿 on their website to support them
Streaming is all good, until you realize that your favorite show has jumped to yet another streaming platform that you have to subscribe to, just to watch your favorite series. To really get the most out of streaming, you need to be subscribed to at least 4-5 different streaming platforms. I don’t think streaming is totally bad, but it’s killing the creativity of filmmaking. It’s suddenly too huge a risk to make films that they used to make. Another thing I don’t like about streaming, is how the content dies much quicker. Bird Box was the talk of the town when it came out, now it’s like the film doesn’t even exist. Watching a movie digitally means there’s no guarantee you will actually own what you watch. You could always pirate, of course. The only problem with that, is how nobody gets paid for the hard work they put into the film. And thus, now you are contributing to the film studios losing money, not just through streaming, but through stealing the product as well.
Love a bit of physical media 🎉
90% of the HMV in Brighton is just overpriced trash branded stuff, like mugs, tshirts etc. DVD bluray CD and records are just a small section. Store always seems empty despite being in the shopping centre. If it keeps them going fair enough but really I'm surprised they do well and keep going. One of life's great mysteries, like WHSmith limping on.
I actually buy graphic novels and tshirts from HMV lol
The WH Smith protracted death scene always makes me wonder too.
Physical media has very little margin for a retailer, remember Woolies/EUK died in 2009 selling the bulk of the UKs physical media and couldn’t turn a penny in profit. A few pence profit on a chart CD means you need to shift *a lot* of them to turn money.
Hence the shelves of high-margin items to tempt you at the same time.
Our Cardiff branch is nicely laid out for discs and always offers on.
Or CeX pre owned.
I like the HMV mix of media, clothes, themed merch!
The reason W.H Smith keeps going is largely thanks to its continued presence in train stations, airports and even hospitals. When you are in a rush before the next journey or you don't have much of a say in the matter, you tend to rely on those smaller, convenience stores. It doesn't matter that their larger, high street stores have gone quiet, they get so much constant traffic from the smaller outlet shops.
Sometimes whenever Oliver stays at my carer Wendy's house (who I live with) for a sleepover since Wendy is his nan, he would want to watch Mighty Morphin Power Rangers The Movie, since Oliver likes Power Rangers, but as it's not on Netflix, nor Disney+, and Wendy wasn't willing to buy it on Amazon Prime, but as I had it on DVD, he would have to watch it in my bedroom since my TV is currently the only one to have a DVD Player. I did eventually find a way to watch DVDs on the downstairs TV though, by using my laptop with the disc player connected, I would play the DVDs on my laptop, and connect my laptop to the TV with my HDMI Cable, so the film can be watched on the TV, though still having to be controlled on the laptop, as the HDMI Cable only transmits the screen through to the TV. I'm having to makedo with this until I can get a DVD player for the downstairs TV at some point in the future, but it proves that old technology can still be useful.
Plus, I'm getting a DVD of Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire for my 24th birthday tomorrow.
Along with a DVD of GBH (a British Crime Film with Nick Nevern).
Well, it's nice to know it still somewhat has a market, I would like to see physical media continue to be produced for at least as long as I live.
I still buy physical films, I'm a 4K fan. Admittedly 4K films are pricey so I try and avoid HMV and just buy from eBay. Just yesterday I ordered a 4K Steelbook version of a Film called Ferrari which I saw at the Cinema at the end of last year. I ordered the Steelbook instead of the regular as it includes some nice Postcards of the Film.
Another downside about Physical Media which is also worth noting is that they do technically have a finite lifespan. While a studio can’t take away your physical media, discs will eventually rot and that will lead to the discs being unusable once it gets bad enough. Luckily, that is not a huge problem at this point in time. Discs have an expected life expectancy of 50-100 years, a very large majority of older discs are still fine currently and re-prints are a thing that still happens. Even if a disc goes bad, you can easily replace it, easily since a vast majority of older DVDs/CDs are dirt cheap (certainly cheaper than on digital stores where you don’t even properly own them). Maybe one day, replacing physical media will be a problem when discs are rotting on mass but I imagine that is still multiple decades away (and maybe a solution could be found at some point).
This shouldn’t deter people from physical media though. It is a downside but it is very much a problem for digital content too. Both methods of consuming media have their positives and negatives and I really hope that physical media can stick around basically forever, even if they become more of a collector’s niche. Physical Media is something you own and scummy multi billion dollar corporations can’t do anything about it. They may eventually stop working from age or poor caretaking but that literally applies to every single piece of technology ever, including the devices we consume digital media on.
Disc rot that is not the result of poor manufacturing or poor storage is a myth.
I have never in 40 years of optical media seen one that "just rotted".
The myth started with actual design and manufacturing flaws in laserdisc and continued into CD with again another manufacturing defect.
Disc error correction is so robust that it will be many decades before anyone sees "rot" of natural causes and basically I don't think I'll see it within my remaining lifetime.
No internet, the home format will never die, that's what the World knows, unfortunately those who are with the bones are quickly the streaming servers
Yay. I still use physical media not only since i keep it but also for the special features. Luckily it still is cheap in the used market.
I buy DVDs 📀 mostly for tv shows and for movies I buy blue rays I do a combination of both
I've always loved DVDs as a kid and now 24 years later, I still collect DVDs and all other sorts of physical media to this day. Good times they were.
Physical Media isn't as mainstream but it's not dead. It's become more of a collectors thing. I mean,the last DVD I bought was the FNAF movie and I only bought it to support the movie
DVD Falls... no more!
It's never been dead in my house, and never will be.
Imagine Xbox abandoning physical media it seems Japanese console like PlayStation and Nintendo are use physical media that protected from piracy
actually, the next generation of physical media should be static, that now becomes solid-state drives. however, film releases and video games are still not using something that we can call "SSD-ROM", despite its high read and write speed, is that the manufacturing cost of an empty SSD-ROM is still very expensive, reminiscent of the cartridge era before the popular usage of CD in the 90s.
Optical media is static, it doesn't change. Unlike SSD and flash.
They will never release a read only flash device, that's already been tried with music and it flopped.
Speed? Find me a codec that a bluray cant supply the data for.
Speed is only important for ripping or transfer, two things that people watching a movie off an optical disc dont do.
DVD 📀
I still buy all forms of physical media. 👍
28/2900 films myself so not dying out here
I may be a tad biased saying this since I work for HMV, but while streaming has its place for sure, physical always wins out for me. No internet to rely on, reams of extras, and the title is yours to watch over and over until the day the disc no longer works (which could be years and years away). The only immediate drawback is dwindling shelf space, but that's a risk I'm always willing to take.
I get most of my dvds from charity shops or cex.
Excellent video Adam!
There is software available that can capture the video footage of a film from streaming services, I believe this is how the illegal streaming sites capture the content to put out the Amazon, Disney, paramount, Netflix stuff on their illegal sites.
Thank goodness. The recent storms in my area could have nearly and uncontrollably killed my support. They made me have to get a new computer, which is necessary to keep me from having to buy the same film too often
Here in Brazil, streaming services becomes much popular due for the society's tradition to adopt new forms to see a movie or a series, and due for a "fan demand", almost every distributor insert new releases only in streaming. These people don't know and awaked for the only rule of every streaming services: not any content will remain forever on a platform, and someday the content will be removed. Streaming services is a terrible alternative to see an content, just for the periods of avaliable time, and not any series produced in history are present. Recently, due for the inclusion of woke quota in various new contents and the mentioned rule of avaliably productions, some streaming services are losing subscribbers(even here in Brazil)
Physical media is a stupid term. Everything resides on physical media, RAM and chip cache are physical meda. The difference now is that you have so much less of it at your own disposal that you have to rely on the cloud or thumb drives or several old hard drives at the most (unless you know how to keep things. Solid state memory fades really fast.) So I think some groups of people just don't amass anything of value anymore. That's bad. itunes could delete your music, crazy business mogul could erase a cloud on a whim, big business friends could have sudden money problems and no longer be your best friend one morning. Sure the cloud does do big fast things but you and/or those who know physical media are the only ones you can actually trust at any time. Keep a copy for yourself if you really like whatever it is, give a f--k. That's the only future of anything we care about now; especially with the price gouging for space to keep anything. Save some real things also, not just data. And say NO to the giant empty posh ice-cold nothingness that is modern interior design. It makes your limited space ultra expensive and then tells you to put nothing else in it.
I will say this to me it will never die. I think it will keep going. I think if everyone talks about something dying then those who want it to live will keep it going. I read the HMV article and it is interesting. I think the collectors are keeping it alive and different fans of those who love physical media.
Now I remember years ago going to talk about music. There is a rapper called Nas who did a rap album called Hip Hop Is Dead and this caused talking around back in mid 2000s. Where it created a a huge discussion, I think Nas did feel that way to a point at the time but I felt it caused the defenders to say NO it is not dead and will keep going. Rap and Hip Hop are still going today even it has had a lot of changes it is still going.
I think physical media will keep going because of collectors and those getting sick of the streaming stuff with the ads and the number of services of streaming. Both should exist to give people more choice.
I could go on more but I don’t mind talking more if people don’t mind.
Stopping people from saying "first!"
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I mean yeah I’m more of a streaming guy but I do respect and buy physical media (mainly if something I want to watch isn’t available via streaming.) I watched The High Life when it was on BritBox, when it left BritBox I ended up buying the DVD. I can see what u mean though about streamers as well. I watch Wrestling and some segments get edited out (mainly to them not ageing very well) or the sounds been edited out due to them using licensed music that they don’t have the rights for. At least one positive with physical media is that it’s often in its original form.
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I like having DVD's and CD's as I can see the film that hasn't been edited by a broadcaster or streaming service.
Also I only watch James Bond on DVD as the main stream media edits and show so many ads.
Don't have to hear those warnings from announcers about the content may offend some viewers
Why do boomers get so upset over those warnings? I don't watch much british content but I see older people getting upset over some obscure comedy getting a content warning. What is it about it?
@@PelinalDidNothingWrong It's bloody annoying. It's basically telling older people their world is wrong and get with the program, grandad. I don't understand why we can't have warnings for us telling us "This program is full of woke bullshit that may be offensive to anyone with actual working brain cells" but it never works that way somehow...
I agree mph son of P Harman say so spread the word
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People are trying to bring VHS back
I watch Netflix probably five nights of the week