DIR EN GREY - 孤独に死す、故に孤独。
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
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This video received some bad comments because of the blood thing in the performance and I was thinking to delete it but for me the blood seems fake since it starts to gush and it is possible to use fake blood capsules for this, the texture and the color for me doesn't really look like of real blood. In my opinion the self-mutilation phase of Kyo has gone totally (at least on the stage) because he seems a much better person than the one from 10 years ago and if he does something like that again I think it is solely to intensify the performance.
Don't delete the song even if the blood were real, it means nothing more than theatrics. This is Dir en grey we're talking about ffs lol :P
Yeah, it's like nobody remembers or knows the essence of DIR EN GREY that in the case is pain.
There's no reason to remove the video. I do think this reappearance of fish-hooking is a good opportunity to have critical conversations about it though. It being potentially a bad influence to depressed teens is just a part of the issue. There's also the toxic culture of perpetuating the myth that artist must suffer for the art and their admirers should reward them for the sacrifice. It's incredibly harmful for artists. It ruins lives and careers. Even if it has somewhat subsided in the recent years, there are still plenty of people all too ready to sweep away criticism by saying Kyo is so passionate that he just must channel the pain in the lyrics into his performance. The more painful the performance and higher the stakes, the better. Fish-hooking and barely singing the lyrics while bloody? Pretty good. Almost blowing your voice for good and probably causing permanent damage to your voice due to bad vocal techniques and overworking? Great dedication. I think all that is bad. I think those older performances where Kyo punished himself were musically inferior and the bloody theatrics were at best a marginal improvement on the overall show. I remember loving the studio Withering to Death and hating many of the sloppy live performances that followed. They were probably real and nuanced reasons for their problems back then, but boy do I have little nostalgia for the fish-hooking. What makes it worse is seeing how good he can be. Almost all the performances post-DSS and voice scare have been phenomenal. Kyo can sing so much better with some discipline and more sustainable techniques. Performing with his voice, hands and eyes, instead of gimmicks. Even the fanbase has matured to the point that the discussion can be more often than not about the music and musicianship and not how cute and tortured Kyo is. That's why the throw-back is such a bummer. To be clear, it's really not a bad performance. Just something that brings back some bad memories and associations. I'm also totally aware of the subject matter. Still don't like the destructive stuff. Fake or not.
I agree with you. I think he just want to give the feeling of WTD Era since they are visiting their old albuns and activating their respective "modes". But yeah I hate to see him doing these things, I hate to see him hurting himself because I love him so much and I feel bad seeing him doing these things. I love the DSS Era because he stopped all that shit and his voice has also improved a lot but when he does self-mutilation it seems that he focus more on feeling the pain for himself and just bleeding than passing it throug the music to the fans. I really love all his theatricality on stage, this is unique and a lot of other vocalists are inspired by him in that sense, he is an artist and very influential voice and he has even got notion of this since recently he said in an interview that he is tired of seeing more vocalists trying to look like him and so has used more extravagant visual elements so that he may seem more and more unique and each finds his own self. He has also said he loses control easily during performances and I find this incredibly insane until he starts the self-mutilation stuff but it's okay to me if it's fake. I just thought it was obvious and didn't need a trigger warning but sorry if anyone felt bad about this.
IT IS DEFINITELY AND CLEARLY FAKE BLOOD! IS VERY EVIDENT! Kyo has used fake blood for a very long time before using his real blood... the self mutilation thing is gone since a very long time... he just started again with makeup and fake blood
いくら金を持とうが人気者になろうが、幼い頃の心の傷は消えない・・・
狂ってる京さんすきやなあ
まさに狂さん
最後の笑みがリアルやな
傷だらけでも笑えてるよって
まさに「違うと願うのは後ろ向きの唯一の救いであり」と…
圧倒的パフォーマンス。他に類を見ない
この時は一段と狂ってるように見える。
2:28〜痛みと客の声に浸る感じがかっこよくて不気味
Kyo is living Art
違うと願うのは～の最後の後ろの映像の演出好き
まじでかっこよすぎて
説得力がないとか言ってる方いますが、金持ちだって家庭崩壊して地獄みたいな暮らししてる人もいる。貧しくてなにも持たない人もとても苦しい、でも持ってたって耐え難い苦しみはある、
苦しみの度合いなんて比べるものじゃない。人から見てすべて持ってたように見えても自殺する方もいる、苦しみは外から測れません…。
彼の詩は今も体験した人だから書ける詩と思います…。
自己否定が強すぎる人間は金があろうが何だろうが自己肯定が埋まらないんですよね…。京さんが今幸せだといいと思ってますが。
ほんとソレ。ファンは誰も京さんの幼少期や育ったご家庭事情を知らないんだから、京さんが今でも抱える想いなんて誰にも分んないよ。
今の経済状況だけで説得力云々とか分かった風に言わないで欲しいですよね。
この曲は正に
“笑いながら生きてる人達からの幸せの押し売り”
に苦しむ人の歌だから、
“なに言ってんだよ、裕福な暮らししてるくせに、絶望とか、甘ったれんなよ”
って、口が裂けても言えないわ。
狂気じみてるぅぅぅ！！
スイッチ入ってる…ステキ…
この世の中の詩で1番共感できる曲！愛してます！唯一無二です
狂気のカッコ良さとそして何故か涙が出た。圧巻のパフォーマンス。リスペクト。
笑顔が素敵過ぎる
最高としか言いようがない。
こんときやばいな...
パフォーマンスのレベルじゃない
いっちゃってる...
いってはない
Azu as たしかに
イッちゃってるっ！
はぁ～……好き
自傷...久しぶり。
Kaoru even brought out the PRS for this performance! Haven't seen that in a while.
サムネｗｗｗ
あの頃をのりこえなんやかんや言われる自分があの頃と同じ事をやったらどうなるか？
そもそも自分がやりたい、おもろいと思った事をやればいいんだしやってみるか。
そんな事なんだろう。
最後の狂ったような笑いは世間と自分に対しての達観と哀れみと本音だろうな。
man... kyo-chan is really awesome. dir en grey is awesome. this is art.
This really needs the backing track to make the chorus work.
I think it sounds great here, so raw and unfiltered. Fits with the lyrics :)
どれだけ命削ってるのよこの人は
Kyo is god 🖤
Thank you so much for posting those videos from Dir en Grey in those amazing tours. They just get better with the pass of time, they music will live forever. Well, about the self-mutilation stuff, Kyo has stoped doing it around 2010, when his got engaged to a beautiful model. Some gossips from staffs of that time said that he stoped doing the self-multilation because of her, even if it was something that giving him pleasure and he liked to use it to make a shocking and amazing perfomance, with a lot of blood, pain, screams and drama. I personally love those old times, those shows was the most delicious and perfect thing on earth to me, but like many fans, I did not like to see him hurt himself. It made us think that maybe something was going wrong in his personal life, that he was trying to get some pain out of him somehow, or even problems with drugs. Or it was just his personal taste, we won't never know. Anyway, if those speculations are true, we know he's still married to that same model. So, I think that maybe Kyo just started doing the self-mutilation again because the band is in these old spirit, bringing back the old musics to the stage. The only thing that we don't know is if he is doing this for old or new reasons, unless he tell us, of course. About the blood being real or not, I don't know, it really doesn't seem real, but we can expect anything coming from him, because he likes it, so it's ok for me. Well, for me, it doesn't matter wharever Kyo does, it doesn't matter wharever any member of Dir en Grey does, they will always be my favorite band and Kyo will always be my favorite vocalist. I've never heard any voice most beautiful, I've never seen any singer that could be like this, full of emotions, so creative, so deep, so real, so true, so beautiful as a person and as a public figure, capable of writing and to compose such unbelievable songs. He's amazing and very special, will always have my entire heart. Kyo is extremily unique, just like he always wanted to be. Sorry for talking so much, I just wanted to share my thoughts with you. Thank you once again, we will keep hearing and loving Dir en Grey forever!
So much bullshit in one post
Again, again you cannot believe Kyo is able to achieve things by himself, apparently.
You totally disregard how he’s fighting this fierce struggle all by himself!
No, some lover needs to save him.
And of course said woman has to be beautiful. As a singer of a band it has to be some fancy model, granted. As Kyo cannot love an „ugly“ person, if we are at it. Because she is so beautiful (or why do you mention her looks?), he is saved?
Not only that, why do people enjoy to spread made up stories like this?
Don’t get me wrong, I won’t deny other people can be a support in another person’s war. I pray there are people for Kyo to suppirt him whenever he needs help.
However, don’t reduce his fight to… this farce.
The worst is how this comment is a glorification of his pain as some show act in addition.
Kyo gets pleasure out if his wounds?!
He hurts himself to shock people? Do we even observe the same things? Obviously not. Look at him, there is zero pleasure!
This is „delicious“ to you, for real?
So, in the end I only wonder: it is a „perfect show“ full of drama to you but Kyo is true? Please decide, it cannot be both at the same time.
If you liked him for one second, maybe you would stop slandering him? May this be possible, please?
I don't even think he is actually married 🤣🤣🤣
Looks Like Kyo is Back to His Old Bag of Bloody Tricks
Timothy Moore He showed his hands are empty before did it.
It's real or not? because that blood it's different color and consistency
It seems to be fake
it is fake, he hide fake blood capsule in his mouth, you can scrath your month as much as you want with your hands you will never bleed that quickly
Sadistic Inori disagreed
久しぶりに聴きましたがいい歌です
この映像みてからインサレ聴くとヤバい...
Fake or real old or young it doesn't matter it's art.It's up to you to like it or not your opinion matters shit here a man is speaking his mind freely.I personally love the blood part for me this has a strong meaning but it fucking doesn't matter.enjoy
この映像見るとなんかザワザワして不安になってくる…なんでだろうか？
貴方もきっとこうやって解放したいんだよ
あかちゃーーーん！！！って聞こえる
ｨｨｨｱｶﾁﾞｬｱｱｱｱﾝwww
Ash to Ashです。笑
最高です‼️
At least someone who can save us now he's the hero tonight though...
best live performance I've ever seen this entire show is so powerful dude fuckin long live dir en grey
可愛い❤️
Kyo is how I imagine the trickster(dbd) to be like irl.
This is nostalgia for the og fans.
Beautiful..
薫さんが珍しくPRSのアーム付きギター使ってる！！
Ich ertrage das niiicht òó🎉
高校の頃真似してやってたけどこれ意外とすぐ血出せるよ笑
そん時は痛くないんだけど後から口内炎できて痛くなる感じ笑
どーやんの？
@@焼肉-u3h 口の天井をに爪を立てて…
@@jebslept8515 マジか絶対痛いだろ
京さん、強烈ww でも、嫌いじゃない（笑）
Let the pain out kyo.😥
俺はLIVEにいけん。直視できないこんなん。動画でも鳥肌たってしまう。近所に京さんがきてサイン会やったけど行けなかった。誰か気持ちわかってくれい。。
心の繊細な部分が、こう、ザワザワッと悲しくなるんだよね。
京さんって本当に満たされてないよね。
Fake blood (or real) is not something new on Rock and Roll, it's all theatrics supporting the lyrics and the music. Don't be silly with the argument that some fans might want to harm themselves seeing this... Remember lyrics about killing, pedophilia, cannibalism... Do you see fans adopting that practices? *roll eyes*
Actually youre wrong. People who are suicidal hear or see this sort of thing gain confidence and do go through with the act of taking their life. Its literally a proven fact. Majority of suicides recorded throughout history show this as a fact. I do agree with the others though. Seeing this isnt going to make someone wanna go be a pedophile, killer, or eat another person. But suicide is a very tricky one. Depression can be a very sensative thing that most people just dont understand.
@@Statistic189 thank you for your comment
I feel the rage
サビはシャウトの方が好きかなぁ
its true blood
Damn that was impressive
曲が好きだけど自傷見たくないぜ
なんか悲しくなる
auberginedreams00 じゃあ見なきゃいい
Wow.. Kyo is so sick af
肝臓で歌う京再来
htetsu1 いいセンスだ。笑
ワザと誤字りました？笑
昔、京が「音程がどうこうよりじぶんは感情で歌うタイプなので」的なこと言ってたのが
「肝臓で歌う」って聞こえる伝説的なインタビューや。
ニコ動とかでけっこういじられてるで。
htetsu1 「今日」ってのはマジの誤字ですか？
ぬわああああん誤字ったもおおおおん
htetsu1 パパっと(編集)やって、終りっ。
someone remind me pls, how to write in youtube, when kyo goes insane like in the end ans starts - crying, wistle, scream at the beggining of the any song. like complitly nuts
dead tree :V 1 y later
Can you upload full version? If you will so thankful to receive... 🙏🙏🙏❤
Please 👐
Estoy media complicada con las fechas ¿Cuando fue este concierto? :00
ごめん。十代からの熱狂的なファンだけど最後は野見さんに見えて仕方なかったわ。。
一時期この動画消えてました？
2011年辺りの硬派な感じの
DIRが好きだったなぁ…
昔からのファンがついていけないって言われ始めてたのがその時期だった
どっちもすこれ
全て愛そう
Kyo volvió a cortarse siempre con este tema...miren el historial
Zerit0 no te preocupes, el no se corta. El sangre ahora no es real
@@zuN-ch5ed Como va a ser fake si se ve claramente que se clava las uñas por dentro y se levanta la.mejilla y sigue sangrando las siguientes 3 canciones xdddddddd Jajaja además ya lo conozco siempre.en esta canción lo hacía...
Zerit0 mira el sangre! no es el mismo que antes! El color, la consistencia: se vee claramente que es fake, parece tintura! Y proprio el echo que continua sangrando por 2 canciones muestra que es fake! si era verdadero no podría sangrar asi tanto, porque por sangrar así tanto tienes que hacer una herida muy muy larga y profunda, no es bastante cortarse el interior de la boca. Y además si fuera verdadero todo aquel sangre el habría debido irse al hospital muy pronto, sino iba a morir desangrado
三より。京ちゃんが死ぬもんか❤ハッピーバレンタインデー❤😊
サムネ、めっちゃニコニコしてたから、いいことあったのかなと思ったらなんか違った
1:14 bang your heads
Ooohhh no...
What is the song?? I love these screams
kodoku ni shisu
Really wish Kyo hadn’t pulled this stunt out for this song again. I thought we were done with this.
Robert D'Amico don't worry, it is fake blood
Sharon Fisso I know, i just think it’s kind of lame to do it again at this point in their career.
海外のバンドに例えるとソウルフライやメイヘムとかに似てるな。
禿げてる？
金持ってるとかどうのこうの言ってる奴いるけどそんなんどーでもいいし知りたないわ
俺の人生がこの曲の詩と少し合わさっている…
2024
3:07 どこをポンポンしてるの？
マイクをお立ち台に叩きつけてるんだと思います。
調子悪そうな日だったのかな？この曲をどう表現するかは難しいと思う。京ではないから分からないけど・・・
どうやって血を出してるの？
ほげぇ 頰の裏を引っ掻いたり、殴ったり。爪を尖らしてやれば出しやすいですよ。
余談なんですが、学生時代に京さんのマネをして血出して授業サボった時あります....笑
バンギャーあげはー その代わり、口内炎の代償がキツいですよ笑笑
バンギャーあげはー どうでした？笑笑
今月の初旬にとあるバンドのライブで一周り以上年上と思われるオバンギャが場所とりまくって先行チケ取ってたのに後ろに下がれとか言われて、挙句長くてカチカチの髪を暴れるような曲でもないのに振り回され、コンタクトに何回もぶち当たったから痛いし、視界がボヤけた時点でブチギレました。でも流石に殴っちゃいかんけん口の中を爪で引っ掻き回して顔面ボコボコに殴って顔面血塗れになりました。案外思ってたより痛くない者ですよね笑ww
でも2週間くらいしたら口角が上がって涙袋が大きくなったのでその点はポジティブに捉えてますが、、、やっぱりあのオバハン絶対ゆるさん
なんか愚痴っててごめんなさいm(_ _)m
He didn’t even sing the best part… the angelic part Lol
京さんのサムネｗ
Alguie aqui habla español?
喉の調子が悪いからその分パフォーマンスで補ってると捉える
ピエロ
そういや京さんで慣れてるせいか映画「it」のピエロ全然怖くなかったな。(どうでもいい)
この自傷も本物かな？昔は本物だったけど。
Taiyo 170%
現地いたけど本物でしたよ！
鼻クソ 壁から 本物だけど、裕福な暮らししてるから説得力に欠ける
Maynard
そもそもこれ説得するためにやってないでしょ
@@U-oy8hc 今さら大金持ちの人がやってもこの自傷とケラケラ笑う世界観はあくまでエンターテイメントなのでリアリティに欠けるって事かな
akt ショーとしてそういう世界感を表現するバンドなのですからプライベートは幸せなのは間違いないですし、プライベートで精神的に苦しんでるって事は絶対に無いと思いますよ！あくまで痛みを伝えるバンドなのでそうやってるだけです。
黒夢の自閉症や十字架との戯れに似てるな。
おう、禿げ
約10年前のウィザの吐血の方がカッコいい
俺も血糊で歌いたい❗カラオケで！
後片付けはちゃんとしてね（笑）
いつかステージでぶっ倒れて死にそう
かなりRockな死に方ですね
死んでないけどブッ倒れたんだよなあ
@@朱藍-l7h ぶっ倒れないように鍛えてるんだよ。アスリートやなぁ
uhm... i hope its fake blood
exist6ence 〜
No
its true blood
@@ハム太郎-r4i FUCK
@@kyra7891 Yep it's fake as hell.
@@EvilDragon666 it is not. Kyo is crazy bro, dude does everything for the public
@@kyra7891 Yeah yeah. Real blood doesn't behave like that under stage lights. This ain't real blood.
I love the music but I’m not super thrilled with Kyo glamorizing self harm in front of an impressionable audience. Seems pretty irresponsible for a guy in his 40s who knows full well that a lot of his young fans practically worship him.
you are probably new here
ringo.kr nope just seemed like he’d grown up a bit since the wtd days. I’m pretty sure it’s fake but some people in the crowd probably don’t know that.