Anyone can drive one of these ? Right!!
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- Опубликовано: 1 сен 2010
- TTC trolleybuses on June 30th, 1991 along Lansdowne Avenue and views at Lansdowne garage. A mechanic gets in 9185 (Edmonton Leased) and drives away taking the corners as sharply as he would in a diesel bus.
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If Toronto kept the Trolley Bus system running. It would've been the 70th anniversary of Trolleybuses in Toronto this year
Kummler and Matter overhead system from Switzerland is the best of the best! Trolleybuses in Zurich travel in absolute HIGH SPEED, regardless whether the buses are on curves, wire crossings, switches! And, de-wirement never happens...
Hopefully in time, this will get more views because it is priceless. I remember being on one of these going to the CNE down Dufferin as a kid. Stepping on the steps to get off at the backdoors was a highlight.
I got to drive these old GM "fishbowl" buses as they called them for 3 years when I started driving for the TTC in 2009. That was the tail end of their service. The are all gone now. And I quit the TTC since.
Man, I actually thought that these used to be the coolest buses ever as they rolled along Ossington Avenue. I could never wait for my next ride on one up to my Dad's
My dad drove trollys for the ttc from the early 80's until they where retired.
rob1tnt Sean O'Sullivan's father drove one. These things had huge torque.
Remember these old school trolley buses which disappeared from Toronto in 1993. Two electric poles keep coming off the overhead wires when turning.
This was driven by a shop mechanic. If you look at the other videos I shot in service they run perfectly.
Michael Taylor Sorry. My bad.
@northlanderdude Because TTC was short-sighted and wasn't able to invest in acquiring the right technology to sustain its trolleybus system. The situation would be a lot different if TTC adopted Kummler and Matter overhead system from Switzerland, and used German made trolley poles on their buses. In Salzburg, trolley poles of trolleybuses come off the wires is such a rare occurrence that it is regarded as a major traffic accident if it ever happens.
The TTC knew the trolley buses were toast, so they let the overheads decline to the point they were de-wiring all the time. They were gone inside of a year. Now the new streetcars are using pantographs (albeit limited usage so far).
argopunk Trolleys were around for years. I rode the 74 for a handful.
@@BeeRich33 Yes. I rode the 74 trolleybus on and off from 1967 until the end of 1991 when they switched to diesel. Once the TTC stopped proper maintenance on the overhead, they were gone pretty quickly. I see how my sentence could be misconstrued.
What was it like taking the subway in the 60s , did they use the whistle back then , and did you take the RT when it opened ? I have alot of questions for you
It was too bad that the TTC had to get rid of its trolley buses. However, it would have been too expensive to keep the trolley bus network, because of the cost of replacing the buses themselves (they were getting old) and the wirelines were in terrible shape. The cost of replacing the trolley wires, especially the wire junctions, would have been horrendous. But, when I lived on Weston Road many years ago, the trolley buses were a god-send, because they were fairly quiet. (Back in those days, I had to work evening shifts and sleep in most mornings until about 11 am..)
Great footage! :)
My country never had these and I always wonder how would they do if those arms came off. Thank you for the video.
Cool video. I miss the trolley buses on my local Mt Pleasant route...and Nortown 61
Glen Atkinson I rode the 74 as well
They're like the 'dial up' of buses.
Interesting video
The retrievers obviously were out of adjustment, or the ropes were too slack. When the pole dewires, the retriever is supposed to kick in quickly, restraining the pole so it doesn't thrash about. A sign of a well-run trolleybus system is taut ropes. TTC and HSR let those ropes get so slack they probably couldn't effectively restrain a dewired pole.
strangely hypnotic
@SkunkRailfan The technology TCC had was way backward and the state of the overhead wires in the video looks very poorly maintained. Modern trolleybuses in Europe, particularly Switzerland, is a marvel itself. They travel in HIGH SPEED when passing wire crossings, wire frogs, etc with no worries that their poles would off the wires. I've just visited Zurich last Nov and I'm utter impressed by their efficient trolleybuses, that SPEED like racing cars on the roads.
@MrTrolleyharry Absolutely! It all boils down to the right technology!
Thanks for posting this, Michael. Brings back awesome childhood memories of riding these leased Edmonton trolley buses on 6A Bay with my mom when I was little circa 1992/93. Hard to believe that was three decades ago now!
Do you have any TTC subway videos, preferably of the early Hawker-Siddeley, Montrealer or Gloucester trains?
Or perhaps any Burlington, Oakville or Markham Transit bus videos from the 1990s?
Sorry no, my interest was in documenting the end of TTC & HSR trolleybus operations. Didn't get interested in buses until about 2006.
@@binbrook21c123 No problem, thanks anyway and these videos are still awesome! 👍
I think he dewired just for the benefit of the videographer...otherwise we'd have nothing to comment on. I drove trolleys for the HSR for 12 years...sometimes the mechanics just don't get enough practice and they position themselves poorly then again sometimes being on camera you get nervous...
Yes, I can drive a trolleybus - and I did it some years ago ...
Pó em SP não é tanto assim Mas a quedas de alavancas são frequentes e quase chega a quebrar as redes 👍
In the dewirement in the end it looks the driver didn't activate a power-on/off switch right. I remember reading in an old usenet post that the Edmonton buses often wouldn't draw enough power to activate the switches, which might be the case here.
this was back in the day not sure if they had the inductive switches which activates by a radio on top of the wire when activating the turn signal. if it did have one he should of heard the click of the switch then proceeded. it seemed more like a selectric switch which activates by making the turn at the right time and staggering the poles to activate the switch. in that case he started his turn to late.
I would think the switches are controlled by the mains, and not the bus. The bus is not a power source.
@@BeeRich33 The switches were powered by traction power, and the solenoids were driven by the bus drawing current over a contactor on the overhead. You can look at the original Ohio Brass patent from the 1940s for circuit diagrams that show exactly how this works.
Haha that TTC trolley had the old Edmonton Transit logo on it.
They were leased from Edmonton and returned in 1992.
A fish eye trolley bus....novel indeed. As to the driver...he seemed to turn to soon in the yard, and then the out of garage deal was probably positioning...Went through all of at Oakridge Transit centre for BC Transit in Vancouver, the poles had me in panic mode for ages after coming out of class...It is a nerve game initially, until you master the wire, and when to get the bus moving and let momentum carry you through some overhead. If you don't intend to be a master of driving a trolley...you will, like this guy, spend your time putting the poles back up....B T W...a rotten way to start a shift...he was probably late for his start point with that de wiring issue he had to deal with before he hit the street.
It was about 31 years ago, but I suspect it might have been a mechanic.
I wonder how many more times he lost his poles. After he drove off
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I see why the TTC got rid of the trolley buses !
4:55 I am surprised to have seen a cyclist in a video this old!
I rode a bike to school in the UK in the 1950s.
How many horns did you get?
Bicycles have been around for over 20 years now. Heh.
I wonder what happens if both those poles end up on positive wires lol
those bay street trolley bus's were awful the rear power pols on them were always falling off LOL I use to ride that bus from Jesse Ketchum PS to Queen street every week day back in 88 to 92
@SkunkRailfan It's a little too late... very unlikely for TTC to re-introduce trackless trolleys in the future. Having trackless trolleys will essentially help TTC form an integrated all-four style transit scheme that is made up by regular buses, streetcars, trackless trolleys and subways.
Jere Cullen - Although these run on electricity, TTC brought them back but this time, they run on batteries as opposed to trolley wires.
I couldn’t help but notice the former Knob Hill Farms supermarket at Lansdowne and Dundas. My family shopped there often when I was a kid. According to good ’ol Wikipedia, the supermarket shut down in 2001. What a shame.
Too bad the trolleys dewired a few times. Turning slowly or driving around bends slowly would do the trick, I suppose. (-:
But then I wonder: Are dewirements more common when trolleys turn left or right? Or does that matter?
That store is a No Frills supermarket now.
@@lawrencelewis8105 So I’ve heard. (-:
@@DwainRichardson I recall when it was served by a rail spur track.
When was trolley bus ceased in Toronto?
1992
@SkunkRailfan Watch this：Winterthur Trolleybuses 2012-03-11
Did the trolly buses pollute or was it zero emission?
The bus itself was zero emission: however, there was/is pollution in the electricity production that was not made at a hydro-electric plant.
This was one of West end Toronto's worst neighborhoods in late 1980' to mid 1990's.
Lansdowne and Bloor was Crack and Heroin sleaze dumping ground. I grew up 15 mins from here. Not a nice place back then.
bobby kiriakidis 2021: it's at Queen's Park now.
So is the bus gas powered or electric because of the overhead wires?
Electric from the overhead wires
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@AM458 That mechanic was not trained right, how to operate trolley buses. Truth is driving, all driving is a art. You have it, or you do not. That guy doesn"t.
an electric fishbowl bus???
Oh my goodness what a headache 🤦🏾♂️ I never did like this wire look anyways ✌🏾
5:04
Bro Septa got the same shit
Funny how people born around Can o' duhh suppose themselves superior to everybody, especially to Americans..Frisco's trolleybuses never had to slow much through complex junctions there, they literally flew right through them.
trainrover They make medication for people like you.
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Hé! you brain ache there, you! did you have a stellar day today at hobbling about 'your' there 'life' on them (abominably) corporateered crutches, pray tell, hmmm? Mustcha you shag robots; mustcha really?!
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Hahaha fail
Electric buses are not hard to drive!
Those buses are a risk to the driver and the passengers and motorists.
erich84502ify how?
I love to know your view exactly how "these buses are a risk to the driver, passengers, and motorists". Other than a slight inconvenience of just waiting for the operator to put the poles back onto the wires, nothing else comes to my mind.
Ross Lemon "they're ugly"
Sounds like the Ford brothers complaining about streetcars getting in the way and slowing down their Cadillac Escalade.
The hell with Doug Ford