GOOD WAY TO FARM BLADE RHINO BEETLES: 1. get stealth armor + stealth elixirs (1 sunset firefly + any monster part) 2. go Bronas Forest (bottom middle of map in the swamp area) 3. wait for night time (or camp), collect beetles around the tree stumps 4. light a campfire, set to night, beetles respawn to repeat the process was done in 10 mins gathering all 9 beetles for barbarian armor 4 star upgrade hope that helps someone who reads it :)
I feel like phantom armor should give defence up rather than attack boost as what made phantoms truly scary in spirit tracks is that they were unkillable
@@Mr.Bread1422 actually it does, you can use a defense up boost in conjunction with armor to provide a massive total defense stat. At least that was the case in BOTW
Also, his guide sucks. I spent 30 minutes trying to get this slip thing to work and it wasn’t working even with a mid-level slip resistance… And then I got to the part where he said you can just go around the back and bomb it. He should’ve said that first, that was way easier
Hey. I know it’s an unrelated tip, but you can save poes by knowing the bargaining statues are all below goddess statues, like the 3 springs and the giant one on the plateau and the forgotten temple
For anyone searching for the Bladed Rhino Beetles, in the Faron region there's a section called the Bronas Forest and you'll find plenty of them there, along with the energized beetles. They typically hang out on the trees and a big section of a giant log that fell over from what I've seen, and for reference I've found about 9 there total so far
@@zomdiesword9432 thanks for adding that! I seem to have only gone there during the night it seems 😂 idk if rain also affects their spawns, but it seems that I can only find them either directly after rain or when there's no rain at all. Maybe they still spawn at a lesser rate though?
for anyone wanting to mark the caves where the phantom graves are, access to any of the incorrect holes, then just walk over the pile of sand that accumulates bellow each hole, that will mark them as complete in your map
I don’t know about anyone else but I am only one who wanted to see Austin’s first play through of the game just to see his reaction or at the very least see his reactions to the memories?
Fierce Deity Armor for the win! This was the first true armor set I wanted to get. Spent some hours to get it & absolutely loved the look of it. Will definitely be upgrading this one for now. 🔥
3:46 PSA for this piece of the armor you dont need slip resistance, there is a breakable wall at the bottom of the cave behind the chest that lets you run up a gentle slope to get there. Also if you manage to kill thehands/their boss you get a 41 power sword and a bow that gets more power based on your max hearts just sayin. THIS HAS BEEN A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT
If you don't care about the set bonus the diamond circlet has more defense than all the other attack up armor in the game and is attack up itself. It can be gotten from the jewelry shop in gerudo town after you complete the main quest there.
Fierce Deity is easier to upgrade imo. Can just wait for the dragons. Start with the fire dragon at the ruins tower and wait till "Noon" at the nearby fire. Did that until it was next to the volcano. the NEXT day the ice dragon is near it's mountain and then the day after that (still at noon) the lightning dragon is near the Gerudo tower. Don't need Lynels until the final upgrade.
I LOVE this dude, every single time I'm wondering about something in this game he's got a video damn near 100% answering every single question I have about "said topic". Thank you Dude!
Zonai Time Bomb + Arrow is a good alternative for rock wall breaking if you have excess timebombs. Shooting the timebomb at breakable rocks does not consume the arrow although it might fling it somewhere but most of the time its just on the ground near where it was shot.
Honestly, this game passes the time, but it’s just not nearly as good as breath of the wild, and it’s really disappointing. A big reason why is the lack of bombs and lack of rupees, it makes it really annoying and takes away from the game. Grinding for Rubys with breaking rocks was already bad in the first Zelda, and it’s even worse in this one
Also, the abilities are not as good, with the exception of ultra hand. If they were going to add the exact same world, they should have greatly improved the game with much better abilities, bringing back the classic items/tools from games, like ocarina of time, and they should have had really good dungeons to supplement the fact that the world is pretty much the exact same. Instead, what they’ve given us is a jumbled, distorted mess of what breath of the wild was. The shrines locations aren’t even as good. And a lot of it doesn’t make any sense, with a convoluted story. Also, those stupid blue rabbits, and even give you enough rubies, to be worth shooting it, because of the cost of arrows.. And why do you have to press a to pick up a rupee?
@@charlesg7926I disagree with the dungeons, those were pretty good and there's multiple ways to tackle them, you can get creative and they are way better than the divine beasts. But I do get what you are saying, Ruppees aren't as plentiful, likely to put emphasis on cave exploring and mining, combined with the ultrahand crafting TOTK is literally just mine craft. And yeah the shrine locations don't make much sense to me either not like the Sheikah shrines, Hyrules landscape was made with in mind during BOTW conception meanwhile the Shrines of Light were made as a replacement and they couldn't stick in the same locations so they stuck them in odd unorthodox places.
@@charlesg7926 Austin John literally has a video on getting thousands of rupees super easily. Takes like 15 or so minutes to kill a few Talus, and you get their stone hearts for strong weapons too. Pretty solid farm technique.
You can find plenty of bladed rhino beetles and all the others in the Faron region. Head west of the lakeside stable and then cross north into Bronas forest. I found over 9 there and got my barbarian armor maxed out ^^.
I can’t stop watching your videos on Tears of the Kingdom. When I get in real doubt I go to the source for the answers and it’s always your Great direction. Thanks AJP!
Was just starting out when I stumbled upon the Phantom Armor cave. Didn't have rockets nor slip resistance elixirs. Had to experiment with a bunch of stuff till I realized there's a bombable wall at the back. Oh and there's also the gloom hands which ate through all my food and weapons. Took 45 mins overall. Fun.
I love Spirit Tracks, so I very much enjoy the phantom armor as a nod to that game. I do think it's a bit on the goofy looking side in BotW and TotK compared to the super deformed look that the Phantoms had in Spirit Tracks, but I still enjoy it anyway
I believe they're the same, but they use different materials to upgrade. Barbarian = Lynel mats and attack food. Fierce deity = dragon shards. Not 100% sure though
Thanks again for the tips. my stamina was too low when i did this and i could not climb up the slippery wall i with one peice of frog armor and the sticky elixer. finally just try a what the hey and Zoni wing and lifted up and then used recall to launch myself up the frog armor and sticky elixer helped me get up with no slips
I was lucky enough to stumble upon the Phantom helmet when I was exploring Puffer Beach and noticed that hole in the cave so decided to investigate - had no idea it was there! Now I just need to go get the rest of the set 😁
You don’t not need to go down each sand hole individually to get the cave markers on your map. Just go down one of them and then run across the tops of the piles of sand at the bottom
With the last piece of phantom, all you have to do is run around the pillar and use a bomb arrow on the rocks in back. I had 5 hearts and two stamina rings and didn’t have an issue surviving or outrunning long enough to use that arrow.
For the Gloom Hands in the cave, I just bombarded him with Bomb Arrow (Strong Construct Bow and full Phantom Armor) until he died. I then hopped down to a lower platform and killed Phantom Ganon with a bunch of headshot arrows with 1 Diamond, 2 Black Horriblin Horns and around 20-25 other arrows. I was shaking when the health disappeared. He was only doing 1/4 of a heart to me which is 👌. Awesome guide
The first set I went for was that froggy armor... I upgraded it twice and now I don't slip at all.... I highly recommend folks try to get it asap. Thanks!! I was looking for the Phantom armor (completion before I beat the game) much appreciated!😊
1:49 Took me SO LONG to find this cave because as I was walking to here from the stable, I found out the well at the stable connects to the Komo Shoreline Cave, which is nearby. So I took my time looking for this cave because I got distracted with all the other things I found in this other one
What's going on I watch your post alot and wanna say thanks. I just found something in tears of kingdom you might be interested in doing a post on. Tha Phantom Greaves location i decided to drop in one of the other holes and there's a lot more goods new Gerudo Wepons 2 of each you gotta take your time or you will look over them. There rusty ones as well but the good ones are well hidden. Attack up of 15 on Bow the other was 10..
2:14 I could have sworn I made a comment on this video calling out the Pitch Meeting/Ryan George reference but apparently I didn’t! I see you, Austin haha
3:37 it’s just one big giant cave system all connected, you enter the right one to get the phantom armor, I would still enter the other ones, reward is worth it, just make sure you have riju’s sage ability first
I first got the Fierce Deity armor, managed to level it up to 3 and started farming Lynels to get their guts, but their droprate appears to be low. I now wonder if my Fierce Deity or Barbarian armor will be maxed out first.
Hey Austin right under the Bronas Forest words on your map is a large tree where I found two bladed rhino beetles on it. If you're still having trouble finding some
its defense stats drop off later once you upgrade other sets, since you can't upgrade phantom but its great early game armor since it's base defenses are better than anything that isn't upgraded like 1-2 times.
Quick video idea: How to get the champion weapons. ( specifically where do i find cobble crushers and sparrow bow etc. I found one and used it before i knew i needed them for the champion weapons)
My fav attack up armor is the barbarian armor set. It’s gives me nostalgia from breath of the wild when I fully upgraded it and would slay labels for fun and have my inventory full of savage lynel weapons.
I was a bit in a bind as I didn’t have the wind boost nor the climbing gear for the phantom armour, turns out you can sneak to the left side around the hands and then bomb the wall of the back off the chest and go up a ramp. Phew ! Took a few tries I think it’s where the hands are looking and you just have to stay out of sight and run !
GOOD WAY TO FARM BLADE RHINO BEETLES:
1. get stealth armor + stealth elixirs (1 sunset firefly + any monster part)
2. go Bronas Forest (bottom middle of map in the swamp area)
3. wait for night time (or camp), collect beetles around the tree stumps
4. light a campfire, set to night, beetles respawn to repeat the process
was done in 10 mins gathering all 9 beetles for barbarian armor 4 star upgrade
hope that helps someone who reads it :)
Screenshotting this
It did 🎉
My armor and playthrough is thankful for your existence
Man i am having terrible luck i got 4 then absolutely nothing for like an hour now
TYSM! I was going around me Luda for hours only to get one 😭
I feel like phantom armor should give defence up rather than attack boost as what made phantoms truly scary in spirit tracks is that they were unkillable
Rather they should have high defence because giving defence up to armor doesn't make sense
Dont all armor have defense up?
@@Mr.Bread1422 actually it does, you can use a defense up boost in conjunction with armor to provide a massive total defense stat. At least that was the case in BOTW
They also 1 shot you so I see where it came from
Also, his guide sucks. I spent 30 minutes trying to get this slip thing to work and it wasn’t working even with a mid-level slip resistance… And then I got to the part where he said you can just go around the back and bomb it. He should’ve said that first, that was way easier
Hey. I know it’s an unrelated tip, but you can save poes by knowing the bargaining statues are all below goddess statues, like the 3 springs and the giant one on the plateau and the forgotten temple
Bro you a life saver
already spent em and he doesn’t tell you if you have bought them all so you can waste 100 on one you already know 😭💀
For anyone searching for the Bladed Rhino Beetles, in the Faron region there's a section called the Bronas Forest and you'll find plenty of them there, along with the energized beetles. They typically hang out on the trees and a big section of a giant log that fell over from what I've seen, and for reference I've found about 9 there total so far
Can confirm, seems that i found them in nighttime though
@@zomdiesword9432 thanks for adding that! I seem to have only gone there during the night it seems 😂 idk if rain also affects their spawns, but it seems that I can only find them either directly after rain or when there's no rain at all. Maybe they still spawn at a lesser rate though?
These are both great but my favorite for attack up is the fierce deity set.
But it’s so damn hard to upgrade man
@@mosheadd1410
Not with the new duplication glitch…
@@jarde1989 you need 1 of each dragon part from each dragon except light so yes it's still hard even with the dupe.
@@Peppanomaly Dragon parts are easy to get tho, there are a lot of videos showing their routes.
@@baxwann yeah, but the dupe glitch doesn't make it easier like the other guy was saying.
for anyone wanting to mark the caves where the phantom graves are, access to any of the incorrect holes, then just walk over the pile of sand that accumulates bellow each hole, that will mark them as complete in your map
Came to say the same thing , ha ! I was like , “Damn , I hope no one went above ground to each individual sinkhole to mark them !”
Is there a benefit to this other than 100% hour game? I generally don’t care shout that, but if there is another perk I’m missing let me know
I don’t know about anyone else but I am only one who wanted to see Austin’s first play through of the game just to see his reaction or at the very least see his reactions to the memories?
Fierce Deity Armor for the win! This was the first true armor set I wanted to get. Spent some hours to get it & absolutely loved the look of it. Will definitely be upgrading this one for now. 🔥
3:46 PSA for this piece of the armor you dont need slip resistance, there is a breakable wall at the bottom of the cave behind the chest that lets you run up a gentle slope to get there. Also if you manage to kill thehands/their boss you get a 41 power sword and a bow that gets more power based on your max hearts just sayin. THIS HAS BEEN A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT
Yep that what I did even when drinking the elixir I was sliding
tysm
Yep, still not going anywhere near those f-ing hands, i aint catching those hands
Thank you
Goofiest goober award goes to Austin lol
Austin with the "Pitch Meeting" reference 😂Austin is the realist! Love these videos. Hoping to pick the game up this week!
Yes
I was looking for a comment about it, glad to know you noticed it too!
I immediately paused the video and looked for this exact comment lol
If you don't care about the set bonus the diamond circlet has more defense than all the other attack up armor in the game and is attack up itself. It can be gotten from the jewelry shop in gerudo town after you complete the main quest there.
Fierce Deity is easier to upgrade imo. Can just wait for the dragons. Start with the fire dragon at the ruins tower and wait till "Noon" at the nearby fire. Did that until it was next to the volcano. the NEXT day the ice dragon is near it's mountain and then the day after that (still at noon) the lightning dragon is near the Gerudo tower. Don't need Lynels until the final upgrade.
I have fierce deity set and didn’t know if I should upgrade that or get the barb set
It was a pain to wait for the dragons. Defeating lynels is way easier if you already played botw.
Floating arena in the depths let's you infinitely farm a variety of Lynels
@@homosapien2332 Lynels are light work even early game if you're good enough I killed one or two lynels and got the hang of it pretty easily.
I LOVE this dude, every single time I'm wondering about something in this game he's got a video damn near 100% answering every single question I have about "said topic". Thank you Dude!
Zonai Time Bomb + Arrow is a good alternative for rock wall breaking if you have excess timebombs.
Shooting the timebomb at breakable rocks does not consume the arrow although it might fling it somewhere but most of the time its just on the ground near where it was shot.
Honestly, this game passes the time, but it’s just not nearly as good as breath of the wild, and it’s really disappointing. A big reason why is the lack of bombs and lack of rupees, it makes it really annoying and takes away from the game. Grinding for Rubys with breaking rocks was already bad in the first Zelda, and it’s even worse in this one
Also, the abilities are not as good, with the exception of ultra hand. If they were going to add the exact same world, they should have greatly improved the game with much better abilities, bringing back the classic items/tools from games, like ocarina of time, and they should have had really good dungeons to supplement the fact that the world is pretty much the exact same. Instead, what they’ve given us is a jumbled, distorted mess of what breath of the wild was. The shrines locations aren’t even as good. And a lot of it doesn’t make any sense, with a convoluted story. Also, those stupid blue rabbits, and even give you enough rubies, to be worth shooting it, because of the cost of arrows.. And why do you have to press a to pick up a rupee?
@@charlesg7926 One of the most stupidest opinions I have seen. And you even wrote whole two paragraphs. DAMN !
@@charlesg7926I disagree with the dungeons, those were pretty good and there's multiple ways to tackle them, you can get creative and they are way better than the divine beasts. But I do get what you are saying, Ruppees aren't as plentiful, likely to put emphasis on cave exploring and mining, combined with the ultrahand crafting TOTK is literally just mine craft. And yeah the shrine locations don't make much sense to me either not like the Sheikah shrines, Hyrules landscape was made with in mind during BOTW conception meanwhile the Shrines of Light were made as a replacement and they couldn't stick in the same locations so they stuck them in odd unorthodox places.
@@charlesg7926 Austin John literally has a video on getting thousands of rupees super easily. Takes like 15 or so minutes to kill a few Talus, and you get their stone hearts for strong weapons too. Pretty solid farm technique.
Dunno how you keep uploading so fast but we all appreciate it so much
Thanks Austin
3 videos in 1 day! Thank you Austin
Hey Austin! You should do a guide on how to get the full Yiga set!
this could not have come at a better time as i was just looking for these, many thanks Austin!
was very helpful thanks
Wow I gotta say Austin is really the best for this Game. Just so you know I really appreciate these Videos and super super helpful.
You can find plenty of bladed rhino beetles and all the others in the Faron region. Head west of the lakeside stable and then cross north into Bronas forest. I found over 9 there and got my barbarian armor maxed out ^^.
I can’t stop watching your videos on Tears of the Kingdom. When I get in real doubt I go to the source for the answers and it’s always your Great direction. Thanks AJP!
Awesome I've been waiting for this!
Cheers Austin!
2:14 good reference
Getting phantom armor is TIGHT!
Thank you Austin the New duplication glitch will make these sets a breeze to upgrade aswell🙏❤️
Was just starting out when I stumbled upon the Phantom Armor cave. Didn't have rockets nor slip resistance elixirs. Had to experiment with a bunch of stuff till I realized there's a bombable wall at the back. Oh and there's also the gloom hands which ate through all my food and weapons. Took 45 mins overall. Fun.
Stalagmite(g for ground) and stalactite(c for ceiling)
Love you man!❤❤❤ You been helping me for four years!!!🎉🎉🎉 Thank you! I used a balloon with a fan lol to get phantom.😂
You are the BEST! I’m 63 and I love Zelda! Thanks for helping me 🎉🎉😊
I really loved watching this video and helpful when I finally get the game 😅
Your videos help me when I feal stuck in any game from Zelda to Pokemon. They give me a feeling of direction. also amazing vid.
I appreciate this video,
I found it helpful.
Thank you AustinJohn. 💚
Love these videos. Keep them coming!
Great! Thanks bud for all my LoZ and Pokémon info!!
So helpful, thank you!
You really is good at what you do sir this my first time filing with you and you really good at explaining
this helped out a lot, im still on my first play through so this helped me out quite a bit
Awesome! Well done my first time beating those Hands of Gloom it actually wasn’t as hard as I thought and was pretty surprised! Thanks for sharing!
I love the design on the back of the phantom armor, it really makes you feel like a powerful knight
I love Spirit Tracks, so I very much enjoy the phantom armor as a nod to that game. I do think it's a bit on the goofy looking side in BotW and TotK compared to the super deformed look that the Phantoms had in Spirit Tracks, but I still enjoy it anyway
This helps so much thank you so much 🎉❤
Thank you again!
All your videos are so useful. You earned a subscriber. Love that Ryan George reference btw.
2:18 loved that pitch meetings reference
2:15 ryan george reference
Big help. Thanks!
My boy, this peace is what all true warriors strive for!
One piece Chad 😎
this channel is so helpful
Hey @austinjohnplays are the barbarian armor and the great deity armor the same as far as an attack boost? Or is the barbarian armor the best?
I believe they're the same, but they use different materials to upgrade. Barbarian = Lynel mats and attack food. Fierce deity = dragon shards. Not 100% sure though
Thanks again for the tips. my stamina was too low when i did this and i could not climb up the slippery wall i with one peice of frog armor and the sticky elixer. finally just try a what the hey and Zoni wing and lifted up and then used recall to launch myself up the frog armor and sticky elixer helped me get up with no slips
Very helpful as always, thanks Austin! Oh and nice Pitch Meeting reference
😊 tysvm very much appreciated definitely helped me
austin on zelda is my favourite austin :)
For anyone wondering, the Gloom Hands don’t despawn after several seconds in the cave with the Phantom chest piece .
Shout out to your suggested weapons video. 194 damage was amazing.
Got my phantom armor from here, thank you!
You are the best at this
3:25
Me: "A cave with multiple entrances? I know it's not the point of the video but please put the bubbul frog"
Austin: "I'm cool like that"
Bro your such a Legend you make me and my Brothers experience of the game so much funner your just such a gaming inspiration bro
I was lucky enough to stumble upon the Phantom helmet when I was exploring Puffer Beach and noticed that hole in the cave so decided to investigate - had no idea it was there! Now I just need to go get the rest of the set 😁
Austin how did you get the glowing glider? It looks kool!
You don’t not need to go down each sand hole individually to get the cave markers on your map. Just go down one of them and then run across the tops of the piles of sand at the bottom
Thank you brother 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
“Super easy, barely an inconvenience” 😂😂 when you said that I couldn’t help but laugh
With the last piece of phantom, all you have to do is run around the pillar and use a bomb arrow on the rocks in back. I had 5 hearts and two stamina rings and didn’t have an issue surviving or outrunning long enough to use that arrow.
Thanks!
For the Gloom Hands in the cave, I just bombarded him with Bomb Arrow (Strong Construct Bow and full Phantom Armor) until he died. I then hopped down to a lower platform and killed Phantom Ganon with a bunch of headshot arrows with 1 Diamond, 2 Black Horriblin Horns and around 20-25 other arrows. I was shaking when the health disappeared. He was only doing 1/4 of a heart to me which is 👌. Awesome guide
Thank you. I respect you're Zelda heart tattoo's.
The first set I went for was that froggy armor... I upgraded it twice and now I don't slip at all.... I highly recommend folks try to get it asap. Thanks!! I was looking for the Phantom armor (completion before I beat the game) much appreciated!😊
2:15 someone watches Pitch Meetings 👀
He has like 30 new vids in 5 days nice working dude😄
I love Austin John he is literally the goat
1:49 Took me SO LONG to find this cave because as I was walking to here from the stable, I found out the well at the stable connects to the Komo Shoreline Cave, which is nearby. So I took my time looking for this cave because I got distracted with all the other things I found in this other one
Does the fierce deity set also have that charge atack stamina up bonus?
Yes but upgrading it is expensive af
Any tips on what to mark on the map? (permanent)
Im already doing it for bosses and some ore deposits
Love that Ryan George reference ♥️♥️♥️
At the left of piper ridge in that little pond is a really good place for mighty thistles near tabantha bridge stable👍
Love the Ryan George reference!
Thank You!!!!!!
Austin John on my Tv, Austin John on my phone, Switch In my hand exploring Hyrule. Doesn’t get any better. Thanks bro!
What's going on I watch your post alot and wanna say thanks. I just found something in tears of kingdom you might be interested in doing a post on. Tha Phantom Greaves location i decided to drop in one of the other holes and there's a lot more goods new Gerudo Wepons 2 of each you gotta take your time or you will look over them. There rusty ones as well but the good ones are well hidden. Attack up of 15 on Bow the other was 10..
2:14 I could have sworn I made a comment on this video calling out the Pitch Meeting/Ryan George reference but apparently I didn’t! I see you, Austin haha
Austin thanks
Austin should do a video about the yoga set and the stuff in the hidout
3:37 it’s just one big giant cave system all connected, you enter the right one to get the phantom armor, I would still enter the other ones, reward is worth it, just make sure you have riju’s sage ability first
Are there any difference thoose sets bonus attack power?
I first got the Fierce Deity armor, managed to level it up to 3 and started farming Lynels to get their guts, but their droprate appears to be low.
I now wonder if my Fierce Deity or Barbarian armor will be maxed out first.
Hey Austin right under the Bronas Forest words on your map is a large tree where I found two bladed rhino beetles on it. If you're still having trouble finding some
I’m 100% running Phantom armor just for how sick it looks. Thanks so much, Austin! I had yet to find it.
Do videos on all the amiibo gear locations
its defense stats drop off later once you upgrade other sets, since you can't upgrade phantom but its great early game armor since it's base defenses are better than anything that isn't upgraded like 1-2 times.
@@FunkySquinja he did
Quick video idea: How to get the champion weapons. ( specifically where do i find cobble crushers and sparrow bow etc. I found one and used it before i knew i needed them for the champion weapons)
My fav attack up armor is the barbarian armor set. It’s gives me nostalgia from breath of the wild when I fully upgraded it and would slay labels for fun and have my inventory full of savage lynel weapons.
Labels not labels😂
My man 👊🏿
Just curious fornthe last piece of phantom, couldn't you have used a rocket shield as well?
I was a bit in a bind as I didn’t have the wind boost nor the climbing gear for the phantom armour, turns out you can sneak to the left side around the hands and then bomb the wall of the back off the chest and go up a ramp. Phew ! Took a few tries I think it’s where the hands are looking and you just have to stay out of sight and run !
First and thank you. My favorite set from botw is the phantom armor
I was wondering if you could make a video on the Yiga clothes.
Does anyone know if there is limit to how many clothing pieces you can have in your inventory botw did that
Dude you quoted Ryan George nice! Super easy barely an inconvenience 😂
Nice I been looking for the rest of the barbarian btw I found the miners pants
Sorry miners “trousers”
2:12 I caught that Pitch Meeting reference!