Dropping Sodium Metal in Liquid Gallium Metal

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  • Опубликовано: 19 окт 2019
  • In this video I drop sodium metal in liquid gallium. I show you what happens when gallium comes in contact with other metals such as indium and aluminum. It forms an alloy that is much weaker than regular aluminum. Then I see if the same thing happens with sodium metal.
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Комментарии • 675

  • @TheActionLab
    @TheActionLab  4 года назад +453

    I want to dive in a pool of Gallium...who wants to join?

    • @andernaugle8962
      @andernaugle8962 4 года назад +36

      The Action Lab ‘Na’

    •  4 года назад +9

      I'm with it!!!! Let me know when I can come....

    • @virtualexplorer278
      @virtualexplorer278 4 года назад +2

      Seriously?? In a spacesuit ??user if

    • @n0t_UN_Owen
      @n0t_UN_Owen 4 года назад +3

      Sodium Hydride

    • @virtualexplorer278
      @virtualexplorer278 4 года назад +2

      @@n0t_UN_Owen hello some guy

  • @epicdarr
    @epicdarr 4 года назад +366

    Let’s not forget that this man literally has a PhD in chemical engineering. Not only is he incredibly smart but pretty damn entertaining. Much respect to you.

  • @Matticus289
    @Matticus289 4 года назад +207

    When my Dad was in middle school, one of his friends stole a chunk of sodium from his science teacher. While being entertained with it exploding over and over out of a mixing bowl full of water, one of his friends had it explode little fragments of sodium all over his arms. He started running around yelling "it's burning, it's burning". His mom heard the commotion and came outside and instinctively grabbed the hose and started to spray him down. You can imagine how much that helped. One of the funniest stories my Dad ever told me. He said it was like a bunch of tiny little fireworks going off on his arms

    • @rizilm2229
      @rizilm2229 4 года назад +15

      Most underrated comment I have ever seen.

    • @platygetzkillz627
      @platygetzkillz627 4 года назад +17

      JEes Louis! I've actually had something like that happen to me. I was doing a science project in the backyard (can't remember what, but it involved Magnesium) when the magnesium somehow caught fire. I yelled "fire! FIRE!!!" and my mom came outside and grabbed the hose and doused the table. We all know what happens when you pour water on a sodium fire.
      P.S. When the fire flared up, SHE KEPT SPRAYING THE DANG THING. Then she finally put two and two together, big, white flame, fire grows bigger when we put water on it, and went inside to grab the extinguisher.

    • @typicalmooyt69
      @typicalmooyt69 3 года назад +7

      @@rizilm2229 the same happened in my chemistry teacher, he was teaching a class of crooks.
      They misbehaved in lab. And playing with sodium and sodium didn't lose a chance

    • @Ratciclefan
      @Ratciclefan 2 года назад +2

      Ouch

    • @lelsewherelelsewhere9435
      @lelsewherelelsewhere9435 2 года назад +6

      Most incredible part of this is a mother being able to instinctually react fast enough to do the rational (as without in depth knowledge, pouring water in it is rational) thing of pouring water on it immediately.
      Most mothers I knew growing up would have flailed around in panic doing nothing.

  • @GRBtutorials
    @GRBtutorials 4 года назад +84

    0:25 Mercury is also not dangerous to touch, and unlike gallium, it doesn’t leave any residue in your skin. The biggest problem with it is the vapors, which when inhaled get converted to organic mercury compounds, which are toxic.

    • @jamesfunk7614
      @jamesfunk7614 4 года назад +11

      In a Cody's Lab video, Cody said mercury is not dangerous to touch *if there are no breaks in your skin*. He works with mercury often, and periodically has a medical test done to check for mercury.

    • @bpj1805
      @bpj1805 4 года назад +8

      @@jamesfunk7614 "Mercury is not dangerous to touch if there are no breaks in your skin" is not the same as "Mercury is dangerous to touch if there are breaks in your skin". Like sure, it's probably a bad idea to submerge an open wound in mercury, but you're not gonna die from holding a few drops of mercury in your palm.

    • @platygetzkillz627
      @platygetzkillz627 4 года назад +1

      Depends on the type. I believe one type is extremely toxic, while the others are only dangerous if you consume them or have a cut.

    • @BackYardScience2000
      @BackYardScience2000 4 года назад +5

      @@platygetzkillz627 , what do you mean? There are no different "types" of mercury. Only different compounds that it can create or different amalgams. There is only 1 type of mercury. The elemental type, which is what is being discussed here. You are talking about mercury compounds.

    • @hazode
      @hazode 4 года назад +4

      @@platygetzkillz627 You're thinking of organic Mercury, and they're a group of compounds containing mercury, not just mercury itself. Dimethyl Mercury is a particularly bad one

  • @lemongavine
    @lemongavine 4 года назад +200

    I like when you start your video’s with “okay”, instead of “hey everyone”.

    • @TheActionLab
      @TheActionLab  4 года назад +41

      I'll make a note of that

    • @idontthinkso2431
      @idontthinkso2431 4 года назад +10

      "okay today..."

    • @lemongavine
      @lemongavine 4 года назад +2

      I don't think so ....yes. that!

    • @MammaOVlogs
      @MammaOVlogs 4 года назад +5

      l say "ok" on my videos all the time to start with , he inherited it from me :)

    • @raoulraoul7129
      @raoulraoul7129 4 года назад +1

      @@MammaOVlogs I like the family photo,you have a genius boy.

  • @goku44ssj62
    @goku44ssj62 4 года назад +212

    "Gallium can form cool alloys" - Action Lab 2019

    • @MuzikBike
      @MuzikBike 4 года назад +8

      "And it starts to melt" - Action Lab 2019

    • @plazmatter
      @plazmatter 4 года назад +3

      Ew comment quoting

    • @randomguy-jd8su
      @randomguy-jd8su 4 года назад +1

      @@plazmatter well what are you going to do when you have nothing to do?

    • @fgvcosmic6752
      @fgvcosmic6752 3 года назад +7

      @@plazmatter "Ew comment quoting" -@PlazMatter YT, 2020

    • @Aceempireplumbing
      @Aceempireplumbing 3 года назад +1

      @@fgvcosmic6752 WRONG YEAR

  • @thatcrystalpie
    @thatcrystalpie 4 года назад +20

    I've learned one thing from this channel
    don't touch sodium to water.

  • @natekloepfer1571
    @natekloepfer1571 4 года назад +7

    You could heat the liquid gallium as the sodium is in it. Gallium has a low vapor pressure. The sodium would then melt in the gallium and permit better mixing. This could even be performed under a high-boiling point mineral oil. The sodium and gallium liquid metals may even stratify

  • @anshum1675
    @anshum1675 4 года назад +72

    *Instructions unclear, ended up turning my finger into gallium alloy.*

  • @derpboi3155
    @derpboi3155 4 года назад +78

    What if gallium loves indium so much, that when they kiss, gallium blushes so much that he melts.

    • @StefanReich
      @StefanReich 4 года назад +6

      Aww

    • @rizilm2229
      @rizilm2229 4 года назад +15

      Try writing romance novels

    • @xyz8206
      @xyz8206 4 года назад +1

      Nice interpretation.👍

    • @ishzarkklyon9590
      @ishzarkklyon9590 4 года назад +4

      @@rizilm2229 god at least it wouldn't be chemical element fanfics

    • @shreksarmy3093
      @shreksarmy3093 2 года назад

      if you draw r34 i will kill myself

  • @tomfromamerica8042
    @tomfromamerica8042 4 года назад +30

    This one was a lot of fun to watch. It reminded me of my childhood days with the chemistry set I got for Christmas! I had the most fun with the experiments that included the phrase, "UH OH!!!!".

    • @platygetzkillz627
      @platygetzkillz627 4 года назад +4

      Me when I accidentally flipped the wrong switch at Chernobyl: "UH OH!!!!"

    • @TeddyGNOP
      @TeddyGNOP Год назад +1

      i was going to make a smartass joke about finding elemental sodium in childrens' chemistry sets, but then i remembered the U-238 chemistry sets that they sold back in the 50s.

    • @abhilashasinha5186
      @abhilashasinha5186 Год назад +1

      boom

  • @anshum1675
    @anshum1675 4 года назад +92

    *Looks like he's playing with sodium again.*

  • @yougotta2505
    @yougotta2505 4 года назад +81

    all you heard was "uh oh" and blowing 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 this channel is hilarious

    • @Tbird2191
      @Tbird2191 4 года назад +4

      IKR!!!! Love this channel.😂👍

  • @CleanWhiteEvoX
    @CleanWhiteEvoX 4 года назад +20

    Your wife has got to be about ready to kill you😂😂😂
    “Honey?!... I blew up the garage again!”

  • @MammaOVlogs
    @MammaOVlogs 4 года назад +2

    amazing! love it and love that a lot of my viewers use your videos in their classrooms!

  • @NOPerative
    @NOPerative 3 года назад +6

    Gallium is like: "get out of here I have a low sodium diet!"

  • @Melb_buddy
    @Melb_buddy 4 года назад +6

    I wish science and chemistry at school was this good. I learn so much watching your channel !!

  • @michaelralston3650
    @michaelralston3650 3 года назад +1

    I feel like this dude is just as amazed at the results as I am. Keep up the good work bro.

  • @lakshmibandopadhyay2902
    @lakshmibandopadhyay2902 4 года назад +1

    You're experiments are incredible I just loved it

  • @darylcheshire1618
    @darylcheshire1618 2 года назад +3

    I once tried to make NaK, sodium and potassium alloy. Interesting thing about NaK is it is a liquid metal. Because the pieces had an oxide layer they didn’t combine and so I had to dispose of sodium and potassium. Fortunately a small quantity.

    • @freshstat1csnow
      @freshstat1csnow Год назад +1

      isn't NaK that one alloy that can catch fire in air?

    • @darylcheshire1618
      @darylcheshire1618 Год назад +1

      @@freshstat1csnow yes, I was combining it under parrafin. Probably the oxide layers prevented the successful combination.

    • @Angrychemist666
      @Angrychemist666 Месяц назад

      ​@@darylcheshire1618why didn't you just clean the 2 metals like you're supposed to?

    • @darylcheshire1618
      @darylcheshire1618 Месяц назад

      @@Angrychemist666 You are correct, I did it wrong.

  • @zantar666
    @zantar666 4 года назад +1

    Love your videos dude. Keep up the good work. Much love from the UK 🤜

  • @knutritter461
    @knutritter461 4 года назад +4

    Very cool experiment. Although I got an M.Sc. in chemistry I have only heard about gallium's properties... but have neverexperienced them. Awesome video!

  • @ElijahPerrin80
    @ElijahPerrin80 4 года назад

    Oh that was fun, I really enjoy your reactions and that your cool with things happening, cant wait for more

  • @anthonydavidson6139
    @anthonydavidson6139 4 года назад +45

    Bro... you just splashed gallium on your aluminum garage door with that explosion.

    • @platygetzkillz627
      @platygetzkillz627 4 года назад +4

      Oh jeez I just realized that xD Welp guess no more bouncing baseballs on the garage door xD

    • @sandrawong6787
      @sandrawong6787 4 года назад +5

      Don't worry the aluminium has a oxidation layer preventing it from dissolving.but you might still have your car stolen one day.

    • @DonnaChamberson
      @DonnaChamberson 4 года назад +1

      He splashed something else on my face..

    • @clementpoon120
      @clementpoon120 4 года назад

      So i guess its one way to make a bomb?

    • @son473
      @son473 3 года назад +2

      @@clementpoon120 pretty shitty bomb

  • @orvillelam3550
    @orvillelam3550 4 года назад +7

    I think you can dissolve the sodium in liquid ammonia and then react that with gallium. From my understanding, gallium can forma zintl compounds with sodium.

  • @anshum1675
    @anshum1675 4 года назад +52

    Parents: So who's your new science teacher?
    Me: The Action Lab.

  • @larsbecker9127
    @larsbecker9127 4 года назад

    Thank you for all the cool and interesting videos!

  • @joeestes531
    @joeestes531 4 года назад

    Awesome video! Thanks for sharing!

  • @krishrana5886
    @krishrana5886 4 года назад

    Awesome vids man....love your videos....filled with interesting science😍

  • @staticclutch9932
    @staticclutch9932 4 года назад +15

    7:45

  • @LeAnimal65
    @LeAnimal65 4 года назад +19

    I thought the beaker would shatter for sure. What a mess! I hope none of that gallium got in his aluminum equipment, like a camera case.

  • @konstak05
    @konstak05 3 года назад +4

    1:50
    I get *[NAME]* vibes by this music.

    • @ittehgeps
      @ittehgeps 3 года назад

      yeah it reminds me of *[REDACTED]*

    • @corruptconverter2616
      @corruptconverter2616 Год назад

      Same, I remember [?NAME?], really brings back memories from a time long passed.
      Memento Mori.

  • @neilmayo6868
    @neilmayo6868 4 года назад

    Had fun watching this my son. Was telling him how dangerous sodium metal and water was. We had bets on whether the beaker would break.

  • @James42_
    @James42_ 4 года назад

    I love your new background music!

  • @bigpump2103
    @bigpump2103 4 года назад

    I love watching your videos great job 😎👍

  • @salvadorsalas533
    @salvadorsalas533 4 года назад

    So awesome!!

  • @merc_ury8792
    @merc_ury8792 4 года назад +3

    The other group in our class: we have the smartest in our class
    My group: we have the action lab

  • @k.c.sunshine1934
    @k.c.sunshine1934 4 года назад

    That's a big-ass piece of sodium! Nice demo!

  • @LostSoulsParadoxicalDoctrine
    @LostSoulsParadoxicalDoctrine Год назад +7

    "Bartender, I'd like a mad scientist's..."
    Bartender "what is that?"
    "A glass of gallium with cubes of sodium, dry as can be!"

  • @mrmarcello3277
    @mrmarcello3277 4 года назад +9

    1:45 "You can actually break it with your own hands"
    2:53 *Brings a wrench to break the aluminum*

  • @tayomas6552
    @tayomas6552 3 года назад +1

    Somewhere in the galaxy an alien is sitting at a bar having gallium on the sodium rocks🤣

  • @stevelk1329
    @stevelk1329 4 года назад

    Fun! Need closeup on pipe when you break it.

  • @EduardRitok
    @EduardRitok 4 года назад

    i am surprised that the beaker survived that explosion:D i expected it sending shrapnels all over the room .. tough one! :P

  • @SpartanONegative
    @SpartanONegative 4 года назад

    Excellent scientific show 👍

  • @Leonardokite
    @Leonardokite 4 года назад

    Fun with exotic metals! Good times were had by all.

  • @burjukaditharun4876
    @burjukaditharun4876 4 года назад

    Explosion was awesome🔥🔥🔥

  • @Nikioko
    @Nikioko 2 года назад

    Galistan is a eutectic alloy of gallium, indium and tin, used as a replacement for mercury in thermometers and electric switches.

  • @DenisLoubet
    @DenisLoubet 4 года назад

    Wow! That Gallium / Indium alloy result just by pushing them together was jaw-dropping! :-) I cringed when you added the water to the sodium.

  • @750kv8
    @750kv8 4 года назад +1

    08:00 - Probably some gallium splashed onto the metal frame of the door. Gallium is very cool, but I would NOT let it get close to any structural metal or any mechanical, electrical or electronic thing, for it's the T-1000 on them.
    Great vid! 👌👍

  • @genlacytubrosa3371
    @genlacytubrosa3371 4 года назад +10

    I want to see liquid metal reach react to magnets please

    • @guythat779
      @guythat779 4 года назад +4

      None of these have significant ferro or para magnetic properties
      So nothing will happen

    • @vivimannequin
      @vivimannequin 3 года назад +1

      Both gallium and mercury are diamagnetic which means they are repelled by a magnetic field

  • @andrei.costache
    @andrei.costache 3 года назад +3

    Is that the Unus Annus theme song at 2:11 ?? I've just remembered it all...

  • @mytuberforyou
    @mytuberforyou 8 месяцев назад

    This guy's home insurance adjuster must LIVE for this.

  • @abhishekmaurya3453
    @abhishekmaurya3453 4 года назад +38

    The same alloy they use in thermometers instead of the mercury itself.
    Me: 😰my whole life was a lie.🤦‍♂️

    • @GRBtutorials
      @GRBtutorials 4 года назад +3

      Not really, mercury thermometers were in use until quite recently.

  • @sanjaydhumale513
    @sanjaydhumale513 4 года назад

    I cant figure out that why he is not getting views
    Btw love your work dude💙

  • @j_freeman3230
    @j_freeman3230 2 года назад +1

    I wonder if you can control the gallium crystal formation by changing the cooling rate

  • @NickRoman
    @NickRoman 4 года назад

    In 9th grade, my earth science class teacher did that demonstration (sodium in water). He covered the overhead fluorescent lights with plastic sheeting and same. The sheeting caught on fire.

  • @christianheichel
    @christianheichel 2 года назад +2

    If you put gallium or other metal with low melting point in a vacuum chamber with wood, will it absorb into it?

  • @mealex303
    @mealex303 4 года назад

    That beaker took it like a champ

  • @mikulsaravanan
    @mikulsaravanan 4 года назад +2

    What you get form this is that Gallium is cool

  • @christopherleubner6633
    @christopherleubner6633 16 дней назад

    Lol at sodium's revenge on the soft box 😂

  • @sovietbot6708
    @sovietbot6708 4 года назад +2

    5:41 I was thinking a marshmallow.

  • @TugAndThugComputing
    @TugAndThugComputing 4 года назад +1

    Pls do a video on making a coin/vegetable battery

  • @shanethrelfall416
    @shanethrelfall416 3 года назад +1

    My 7 year old son loves it when I get the Gallium out, he calls it Terminator Metal

  • @TeddyGNOP
    @TeddyGNOP Год назад

    3:10 - i've heard it described as feeling like tempered chocolate when the aluminum is completely saturated.

  • @detenatron.3608
    @detenatron.3608 3 года назад

    5:32 somewhere in a distant galaxy this is the main thirst quencher.

  • @bubblebuttbubberduck8912
    @bubblebuttbubberduck8912 4 года назад

    What is the composite of the gallium cubes at the end? Can they be used for anything because they look cool

  • @Blitnock
    @Blitnock 4 года назад +6

    When you did your final "experiment" I thought, "You idiot!" I was correct.

    • @mohmadsobeidat4042
      @mohmadsobeidat4042 4 года назад +1

      Wife's friend: What was this noise?
      Wife: Don't worry it's just my husband blowing up the garage again.

  • @peetiegonzalez1845
    @peetiegonzalez1845 4 года назад +1

    "Like an ice cube" More like a piece of styrofoam!

  • @TheGrayKPlays
    @TheGrayKPlays 4 года назад +4

    3:47 Fun fact: technically it is less hard before being exposed to gallium. It becomes extremely hard after the gallium saturates it.

    • @750kv8
      @750kv8 4 года назад

      Huh, interesting! Citation needed.

    • @TheGrayKPlays
      @TheGrayKPlays 4 года назад +1

      @@750kv8 No need for a citation really, it just takes a little bit more thought of what it means for something to be hard. when something bends it is softer so the more brittle something becomes the more hard it is

    • @750kv8
      @750kv8 4 года назад +2

      @@TheGrayKPlays Some other uploader, maybe Backyard Scientist but idk, compared breaking attacked aluminium to breaking chocolate bars. Is a chocolate bar harder that intact aluminium? If attacked aluminium is harder than the intact one, shouldn't it break more like glass for example?
      Yes, citation IS needed, all the time, for something not known to anyone, or not very obvious. Also, don't mix en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardness with en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brittleness. It's REALLY NOT the same thing.

    • @TheGrayKPlays
      @TheGrayKPlays 4 года назад

      @@750kv8 Okay. maybe you should read your links though.

    • @750kv8
      @750kv8 4 года назад +1

      @@TheGrayKPlays - Yes, I did. It's your move.

  • @sanmugaiah
    @sanmugaiah Год назад

    it's very interesting and awsome

  • @lubbock2704
    @lubbock2704 4 года назад

    Mean pranks, pouring gallium on your friend's car's aluminum engine block

  • @vaibhav_1603
    @vaibhav_1603 4 года назад

    Awsm bro❤️❤️

  • @jozefnovak7750
    @jozefnovak7750 3 года назад

    Super!

  • @TreWilder
    @TreWilder 4 года назад

    GALLIUM!
    GENIUS!

  • @skoonthatraccoonskunkguy3865
    @skoonthatraccoonskunkguy3865 4 года назад

    Wonder about if NaK would mix or just be like water and oil. Also often wonder what IF these mixed what affect on alluminum would be if they remain liquid.

  • @prashanthkumar0
    @prashanthkumar0 3 года назад

    8:27 this shows the love of sodium gallium and water 😂😂

  • @telesniper2
    @telesniper2 Месяц назад

    There was a kid at school that made a mold for a US quarter, and poured molten potasium into the mold....the potassium quarter came out PERFECT. He gave it a very light coating of oil and put it into an altoids tin. Then right before the end of one class period, he took it out, wiped off the oil and tossed it into the hallway! Well of course someone picked it up....we just heard a YAAAARRRGGG!!!!! scream from the busy hallway

  • @RandomTechF
    @RandomTechF 4 года назад +2

    Well. It at least melted the sheet off in a heart shape. 😂

  • @guythat779
    @guythat779 4 года назад +1

    So before it happens I'm gonna call it
    The gallium environment allows a lot more surface contact between the sodium and air which will slowly but surely heat it up, if it gets hot enough and spontaneously combusts then a small explosion will ensue, but i can't be sure if it'll ever get to the flash temperature since the concentration of sodiu, specific heat capacity and heat conductivity of gallium
    Edit: nvm, apparenty it doesn't like to be a liquid alloy with gallium

  • @madanmohanbag9422
    @madanmohanbag9422 3 года назад

    Woah! It's cool

  • @charugoyal2756
    @charugoyal2756 4 года назад

    Dat new switch

  • @Itskaidaorangeguy2017
    @Itskaidaorangeguy2017 4 года назад

    8:04 new way to make fireworks

  • @jordanezell5132
    @jordanezell5132 4 года назад

    Could you please try to make and test Da Vinci’s diving suit next?

  • @litheodragon1827
    @litheodragon1827 3 года назад

    The gallium destroying the aluminum was cool but I got distracted hearing unus annus music XD

  • @anthonydavidson6139
    @anthonydavidson6139 4 года назад

    Could you take a lot of contaminated aluminum with gallium and put it in a forge and then make an ingot and let it cool and see if it’s still brittle?

  • @Obelisk57
    @Obelisk57 3 года назад +1

    This is why I use Gallium drill bits on all my aluminum machined parts.

  • @its_sweet16_therandom46
    @its_sweet16_therandom46 4 года назад

    That machine sounds like the machine they give you a filling with

  • @maru-osu
    @maru-osu 4 года назад +1

    Gallium be like: **slosh**

  • @JoeA1974
    @JoeA1974 4 года назад

    You should have melted the sodium metal into the gallium with heat as you would in adding tin to your gallium / indium alloy forming gallinstan which is more accurate of a recipe for modern thermometer fluid. Add 0.2% bismuth and it's identical to the formula most use.

  • @aidenlaloo6881
    @aidenlaloo6881 2 года назад +1

    Straw be like I was jus trying to feed u....

  • @CesareVesdani
    @CesareVesdani 4 года назад +1

    Can you mix two metals to make a new type of metal?

    • @dhy5342
      @dhy5342 2 года назад

      that's what alloys are.

  • @lotychannel6126
    @lotychannel6126 3 года назад +1

    8:31 look at the good side. you made a heart with exploding sodium

  • @visusdeiveri
    @visusdeiveri 4 года назад

    5:55 forbidden iced tea

  • @sakshambh03
    @sakshambh03 4 года назад

    Dear action lab,
    Make a video on amalgamation of aluminium and mercury😍

  • @pauldillon4587
    @pauldillon4587 2 года назад

    Can you control that spark blast vacuum? Does it still show heat?

  • @crystalmik8410
    @crystalmik8410 4 года назад

    You could try to melt the metals together by heating them in an argon atmosphere

  • @devin5139
    @devin5139 3 года назад

    I wonder if any of those gallium drops got on your aluminum garage door hinges

  • @therealveridicalyt497
    @therealveridicalyt497 4 года назад

    He is the only youtuber that can make nuclear weapons more deadly with his experiments

  • @jerotoro2021
    @jerotoro2021 4 года назад

    If you cooled a piece of sodium with liquid nitrogen, then dropped it in water, which would happen first: ice forming around the sodium, keeping it safe? Or the sodium/water reaction heating it up?

  • @djisydneyaustralia
    @djisydneyaustralia Год назад

    Nice shape to the
    Crystals. Surprisingly large facets