We all learn from each other by sharing things we know. That's the beauty of this whole RUclips thing. (and other platforms) You share your experience in this video and I'm sure other people will learn from it. Win win.
It really is, I wasnt sure what to expect when I started this channel but it has been a very rewarding experience. I really enjoy sharing my work and learning from all the expereinced folks watching.
Its hard to pick the expensive options when first starting out. it really adds up but sometimes the cheaper way will only cost you that price and then some with added frustrations. I picked up some good drill bits now and love them. no comparison to harbor freight.
I'll add one that runs parallel to yours... be prepared, and learn how to juggle. Juggle different projects going on at the same time. Juggle research on multiple things. Juggle shopping research so you can jump on a deal you have planned for on say facebook market or ebay or craigs list. You have to put in the research b4 you buy. There are ways to set alerts on ebay as well as other sites. Tools you need and tools you want are two different animals. As a hobby, it can take you a bit of time before you have enough tools to attack projects, in the meantime there are workarounds. That's part of research too. How to do this without that. Your channel can be a very big help to those wanting to take the journey with you. Thanks for sharing.
This is a great point to add to the list. Research...Learning what to research are all hurdles for those starting out. I didnt realize how much I didn't know until I started. So much to learn. Take your time and do your research. Learn as much as you can and take the advice from those in the know. Thanks for adding to the video and thanks for watching. I do hope my channel helps others wanting to get into this hobby.
Something I found out too late was about R8 collets. First of all you don't need the 29 piece set that goes from 1/8 to 7/8 by 32nds. What are you going to be holding......end mills mostly. I have never used any of the the endmills ending in /16 or /32. Just get /8ths. And then don't cheep out. Runout on the cheep ones is terrible. The bottom end of them are pretty much centered but put a 2 inch dowel pin in them and check runout at the end. The bore through the middle is not straight. Spend your money on a good 7 piece set.
This is good advice. I did buy an 11 piece set but I completely agree, you just hold endmills with it for the most part. typically i use 1/2 or 3/8 collets. If I need anything mor specific I can use my ER40 Collet chuck with the R8 adapter. Now I did cheap out. I will try the dowl pin check you described. wouldnt surprise me if I had runout at all. Thanks for posting this advice.
DEEZ great video for the home shop machinist. I am a trained tool maker and I see so many people make the mistakes you speak of. Don't buy cheap you can buy nice or buy twice. Safety is a must! Wear Safety glasses keep your hands away! Your correct the cost of the machine is nothing compared to the tooling. Ask me I know. I have done videos reviewing of tooling ......see ya this fall at our model engine show?
Intrigued. Agree with all your said. Need more info about the model engine show. Email me if anyone is interested in discussing further. Cheers my friend.
Thanks, Safety is very important. Something I took for granted and have been very fortunate not to experience any catastrophes. I hope others new to the hobby see the video and it is helpful. Thanks for watching.
Deez, If you buy a set of taps and dies. Make sure they are high speed steel. Harbor freight and alot of others are not HS. They are high carbon and won't hold up to high speed steel.
Excellent note about safety. Rings and watches are a no-no in the shop. My wife is a retired ER Nurse, and she will explain in gruesome detail while you should do this religiously. Get insulation, heat, and air conditioning at the earliest possible moment for your workshop. Two reasons. First you can be comfortable year-round. Second, soon you will have several tons of steel in your shop. The first warm day of Spring when you open the door everything in the shop will be soaked with water droplets, leaving rust on all your precious machines and tools. I heat a 400 square foot shop with an old Sears 3500 watt heater and a small 220v window AC. Costs about $30 a month. I would differ a little bit about Harbor Freight drills, taps and dies. Starting out I would buy the mid-grade high speed number, letter, and fractional drill set as well as the high-speed tap and die set. They're not too bad. As you break or use them up you can buy industrial grade individual replacements from companies like Travers Tool or McMaster Carr. You will soon realize that many of these tools are rarely if ever used. I have letter drills I bought in a set in the 1960s that I have never used. In the end, the box the tools came in is about the most important bit of the set. For reamers make a stand from a block of wood to hold the reamers and buy them individually as you need them. You can get a chucking reamer over night in the exact size you need from McMaster Carr. Sizes less than 1/2 inch aren't very expensive. Yard sales and estate sales are your friend. Often you can find good quality Craftsman tap handles and die handles. Drill indexes are common and if they are missing drills, no problem, you have a drawer full of American made drills from other yard sales. Many people don't realize that drills can be resharpened and sell them for pennies. They often don't know what precision measuring tools are. Last year I bought a set of what appeared to have been an almost never used Lufkin micrometer set , 0-1, 2-3, and 2-3s for $20. Learn stuff and people will marvel at you Cheers from NC/USA
I got the flash rust last year on a super random humid day. caught it really early so was able to clean that up and oil everything down. I know I will need to keep an eye on the machines as the temps start to warm up. I would love to heat and cool the shop but it will be a while before I can get to where I keep it consistently at a reasonable temp.
I will reconsider, You are absolutely right, One and done with this. Concerns around safety will never be ignored or argued against by me. This is great advice and advice we all should take. Thank you.
Safety #1. The moment you get complacent and comfortable with these tools, is the moment you end up in the ER. If it helps, put a checklist next to your machine. Regarding Harbor Freight, it's a decent place to buy a lot of low quality scrap metal. 😉 Thanks for the video, it's worth it and I'm sure it's helping a lot of people.
You’re doing pretty good with your videos. Yes the season pros may not like them. I’m sure you’re doing things wrong. I’m sure you’re buying all the wrong tools. But there are many of us out here. Doing the same thing. Trying to expand our knowledge. And I creativity And we’re all trying to do it on a limited budget. So far I’ve spent two years of my lathe ownership learning how to fix lathes and using my broken lathe to make parts for my broken lathe and it’s been real fun. Now I’ve reached a point where I need some parts that I think of troublesome to make and the lathe manufacturer no longer has part. I need the cross slide nut, lead screw nut. I’ve also learned that not only does the manufacturer not have specifications for these parts. They’re not exactly standard parts. I think one thing you missed though was material material. It’s freaking expensive. Deez you just keep chugging along, and will keep watching. As far as feeds and speeds go. It’s all very dependent on your machine, cutting tools, and so many other factors. When you look in a manual for feeds and speeds, and you look at the spindle speeds, and the depth of cuts these specs for larger more powerful industrial machines. My machine tops out at 1600 RPM. Go look up the speeds and feeds for say half inch material or a half inch carbide flute they use in a Mill not even close I have learned with my machine with most steel. I need to push that 1600 rpm all the time until I get to larger diameters or softer materials like cast iron. It’s all fun like you say be safe. I have been buying specific tools as I need them for projects.
Great comment, MATERIALS. you are absolutely right, I should have mentioned that. Getting known raw materials is very expensive especially if you have to have them shipped. I did find a local steel supplier but they really deal wiht industrial customers. They dont have a problem working with home hobbists though so when I need something specific I will contact them to see if I can same some money. getting raw stock to work with is costly. Cheers and thanks for sharing your experience with the hobby as well.
absolutely. It all adds up very quickly. Anyone getting into this hobby needs to understand the extra cost factor for tooling, materials, shop supplies, safety gear. etc.
Hi deez, if we're all honest we all made the same mistakes. It took me a few years to bite the bullet and invest in some mitutoyo tools and other stuff. Drill sets, parallels, collects etc ,all worthwhile in the end . Like you said buying the machines is just the start acquiring the tooling stings the wallet.
I am about in the same timeframe as you, I have about everythign I need to work on most projects. Thsi year I plan to upgrade some of the frustrating poor quality tooling that I use a lot and everything esle as I need it. Glad I made it to this point with most tooling and accessories to work on a wide variety of projects.
:-) every day is an opportunity to learn. I have been workign my professional career for 28 years now and learn something everyday. I expect this with this hobby as well. Its very satisfying to learn a new skill and have successes along with that.
Great video, thanks for sharing. I'm currently trying to wade through all the bench-top mini lathes out there trying to choose the right one to purchase. Perhaps you could share your thought process on just how you decided on the brand and model of lathe that you chose.
I have some videos from last year and earlier covering my decisions for purchasing this particular mini lathe. I encourage you to check those out for more in depth reasons, however the short of it is this, I chose a cheap chinese lathe for reasons of entry price. This particular model was not the cheapest but I chose it for its size, being a little larger than the cheaper smaller ones, the motor size and the spindle bore was a very big factor. I also purchased it for a bit more by using Amazon. I wanted a reseller I could work with if I had issues with Vevor. Plus free shipping if it was total garbage to return it. If you can afford a better quality machine I would encourage that but again, Most of us are on a careful budget. Hope this helps.
mmm, money. I think there is a point with these kind of hobbies where they need to start paying for themselves if you want to take them further. Hopefully the subscribers will add up on the videos enough for that. I find my hobbies like this take forever. Buying piece parts to build things can take me years as I wait for enough cash to buy the next piece of the puzzle. Sometimes by the time I get to the last piece the first piece is out of date (doh!) Wallet is definitely a big thing with many of these hobbies, video, machining, cad/cam, computers. I should probably buy a lottery ticket. Keep on filming :)
As long as there are people who still enjoy my sharing of my learning and learning projects I intend to keep sharing them. No real gain the RUclips monetization is negligible. As in doesn’t add to much. I do it to help others and share the hobby. Loving this community on the channel.
We all learn from each other by sharing things we know. That's the beauty of this whole RUclips thing. (and other platforms)
You share your experience in this video and I'm sure other people will learn from it. Win win.
It really is, I wasnt sure what to expect when I started this channel but it has been a very rewarding experience. I really enjoy sharing my work and learning from all the expereinced folks watching.
All good suggestions. Sometime back I bought a good drill set and it's been a great investment.
Its hard to pick the expensive options when first starting out. it really adds up but sometimes the cheaper way will only cost you that price and then some with added frustrations. I picked up some good drill bits now and love them. no comparison to harbor freight.
I'll add one that runs parallel to yours... be prepared, and learn how to juggle. Juggle different projects going on at the same time. Juggle research on multiple things. Juggle shopping research so you can jump on a deal you have planned for on say facebook market or ebay or craigs list. You have to put in the research b4 you buy. There are ways to set alerts on ebay as well as other sites. Tools you need and tools you want are two different animals. As a hobby, it can take you a bit of time before you have enough tools to attack projects, in the meantime there are workarounds. That's part of research too. How to do this without that. Your channel can be a very big help to those wanting to take the journey with you. Thanks for sharing.
This is a great point to add to the list. Research...Learning what to research are all hurdles for those starting out. I didnt realize how much I didn't know until I started. So much to learn. Take your time and do your research. Learn as much as you can and take the advice from those in the know. Thanks for adding to the video and thanks for watching. I do hope my channel helps others wanting to get into this hobby.
Something I found out too late was about R8 collets. First of all you don't need the 29 piece set that goes from 1/8 to 7/8 by 32nds. What are you going to be holding......end mills mostly. I have never used any of the the endmills ending in /16 or /32. Just get /8ths. And then don't cheep out. Runout on the cheep ones is terrible. The bottom end of them are pretty much centered but put a 2 inch dowel pin in them and check runout at the end. The bore through the middle is not straight. Spend your money on a good 7 piece set.
This is good advice. I did buy an 11 piece set but I completely agree, you just hold endmills with it for the most part. typically i use 1/2 or 3/8 collets. If I need anything mor specific I can use my ER40 Collet chuck with the R8 adapter. Now I did cheap out. I will try the dowl pin check you described. wouldnt surprise me if I had runout at all. Thanks for posting this advice.
DEEZ great video for the home shop machinist. I am a trained tool maker and I see so many people make the mistakes you speak of. Don't buy cheap you can buy nice or buy twice. Safety is a must! Wear Safety glasses keep your hands away! Your correct the cost of the machine is nothing compared to the tooling. Ask me I know. I have done videos reviewing of tooling ......see ya this fall at our model engine show?
Intrigued. Agree with all your said. Need more info about the model engine show. Email me if anyone is interested in discussing further. Cheers my friend.
@@deezworkshop what is your email? I don't seem to be able to find it
deezworkshop75 at gmail dot com. Should be on my about page somewhere as well.
Hello my name is Skip am 72 years old . You are very wise at this point the price we pay for safety can be high as well as
Thanks, Safety is very important. Something I took for granted and have been very fortunate not to experience any catastrophes. I hope others new to the hobby see the video and it is helpful. Thanks for watching.
Right on Skip.
Great Video!! I am totally new too, and am really enjoying learning this!
This is a great hobby and I learn something with every project I work on. Thanks for finding the channel and watching.
Deez,
If you buy a set of taps and dies. Make sure they are high speed steel. Harbor freight and alot of others are not HS. They are high carbon and won't hold up to high speed steel.
Good info, I didnt realize that. Thanks.
Great vid , Thank you. All good points . I'm definitely still a beginner finding my way with good advice from others on here .
Excellent note about safety. Rings and watches are a no-no in the shop. My wife is a retired ER Nurse, and she will explain in gruesome detail while you should do this religiously.
Get insulation, heat, and air conditioning at the earliest possible moment for your workshop. Two reasons. First you can be comfortable year-round. Second, soon you will have several tons of steel in your shop. The first warm day of Spring when you open the door everything in the shop will be soaked with water droplets, leaving rust on all your precious machines and tools. I heat a 400 square foot shop with an old Sears 3500 watt heater and a small 220v window AC. Costs about $30 a month.
I would differ a little bit about Harbor Freight drills, taps and dies. Starting out I would buy the mid-grade high speed number, letter, and fractional drill set as well as the high-speed tap and die set. They're not too bad. As you break or use them up you can buy industrial grade individual replacements from companies like Travers Tool or McMaster Carr. You will soon realize that many of these tools are rarely if ever used. I have letter drills I bought in a set in the 1960s that I have never used. In the end, the box the tools came in is about the most important bit of the set. For reamers make a stand from a block of wood to hold the reamers and buy them individually as you need them. You can get a chucking reamer over night in the exact size you need from McMaster Carr. Sizes less than 1/2 inch aren't very expensive.
Yard sales and estate sales are your friend. Often you can find good quality Craftsman tap handles and die handles. Drill indexes are common and if they are missing drills, no problem, you have a drawer full of American made drills from other yard sales. Many people don't realize that drills can be resharpened and sell them for pennies. They often don't know what precision measuring tools are. Last year I bought a set of what appeared to have been an almost never used Lufkin micrometer set , 0-1, 2-3, and 2-3s for $20.
Learn stuff and people will marvel at you
Cheers from NC/USA
I got the flash rust last year on a super random humid day. caught it really early so was able to clean that up and oil everything down. I know I will need to keep an eye on the machines as the temps start to warm up. I would love to heat and cool the shop but it will be a while before I can get to where I keep it consistently at a reasonable temp.
reconsider on the ring.. if it ever gets caught it will take the finger with it, no ifs or buts. And it only needs to happen once.
I will reconsider, You are absolutely right, One and done with this. Concerns around safety will never be ignored or argued against by me. This is great advice and advice we all should take. Thank you.
Your very open and honest on camera, it makes for nice vid to watch. The corner of the shop cam is cool, its framed well. Great vid mate👍👌🇦🇺
Thanks for the feedback. This is what keeps me going. I will remember the camera angle. Always trying to improve the content.
Deez, thank you for this. Honest teachings and hopefully you save some of us aggravation and even money.
Absolutely, You're welcome. That continues to be my focus and goal of sharing all the projects and experiences I am going through.
Safety #1.
The moment you get complacent and comfortable with these tools, is the moment you end up in the ER.
If it helps, put a checklist next to your machine.
Regarding Harbor Freight, it's a decent place to buy a lot of low quality scrap metal. 😉
Thanks for the video, it's worth it and I'm sure it's helping a lot of people.
Agree 100 %. Dont get lazy about safety. Good idea for a checklist. Thansk, I hope the videos help some out there. Thats my main reason for sharing.
Love the top five videos! keep it up!
You’re doing pretty good with your videos. Yes the season pros may not like them. I’m sure you’re doing things wrong. I’m sure you’re buying all the wrong tools. But there are many of us out here. Doing the same thing. Trying to expand our knowledge. And I creativity And we’re all trying to do it on a limited budget. So far I’ve spent two years of my lathe ownership learning how to fix lathes and using my broken lathe to make parts for my broken lathe and it’s been real fun. Now I’ve reached a point where I need some parts that I think of troublesome to make and the lathe manufacturer no longer has part. I need the cross slide nut, lead screw nut. I’ve also learned that not only does the manufacturer not have specifications for these parts. They’re not exactly standard parts. I think one thing you missed though was material material. It’s freaking expensive. Deez you just keep chugging along, and will keep watching. As far as feeds and speeds go. It’s all very dependent on your machine, cutting tools, and so many other factors. When you look in a manual for feeds and speeds, and you look at the spindle speeds, and the depth of cuts these specs for larger more powerful industrial machines. My machine tops out at 1600 RPM. Go look up the speeds and feeds for say half inch material or a half inch carbide flute they use in a Mill not even close I have learned with my machine with most steel. I need to push that 1600 rpm all the time until I get to larger diameters or softer materials like cast iron.
It’s all fun like you say be safe.
I have been buying specific tools as I need them for projects.
Great comment, MATERIALS. you are absolutely right, I should have mentioned that. Getting known raw materials is very expensive especially if you have to have them shipped. I did find a local steel supplier but they really deal wiht industrial customers. They dont have a problem working with home hobbists though so when I need something specific I will contact them to see if I can same some money. getting raw stock to work with is costly. Cheers and thanks for sharing your experience with the hobby as well.
Not to mention the material (stock) cost and other hardware needed.
absolutely. It all adds up very quickly. Anyone getting into this hobby needs to understand the extra cost factor for tooling, materials, shop supplies, safety gear. etc.
Hi deez, if we're all honest we all made the same mistakes. It took me a few years to bite the bullet and invest in some mitutoyo tools and other stuff. Drill sets, parallels, collects etc ,all worthwhile in the end . Like you said buying the machines is just the start acquiring the tooling stings the wallet.
I am about in the same timeframe as you, I have about everythign I need to work on most projects. Thsi year I plan to upgrade some of the frustrating poor quality tooling that I use a lot and everything esle as I need it. Glad I made it to this point with most tooling and accessories to work on a wide variety of projects.
lol! While watching your video guess what commercial came on? Harbor Freight. 😂
Good video, appreciate the honesty.
:-) Targeted ad placement. Knock HF, and they still advertise with you. lol I noticed that too playing back one of my videos. Funny.
Hi dezz ,p.s I started in this hobby 8 years ago and there's always something new to learn 😊
39 years here s d still learning.
:-) every day is an opportunity to learn. I have been workign my professional career for 28 years now and learn something everyday. I expect this with this hobby as well. Its very satisfying to learn a new skill and have successes along with that.
Great video, thanks for sharing. I'm currently trying to wade through all the bench-top mini lathes out there trying to choose the right one to purchase.
Perhaps you could share your thought process on just how you decided on the brand and model of lathe that you chose.
I have some videos from last year and earlier covering my decisions for purchasing this particular mini lathe. I encourage you to check those out for more in depth reasons, however the short of it is this, I chose a cheap chinese lathe for reasons of entry price. This particular model was not the cheapest but I chose it for its size, being a little larger than the cheaper smaller ones, the motor size and the spindle bore was a very big factor. I also purchased it for a bit more by using Amazon. I wanted a reseller I could work with if I had issues with Vevor. Plus free shipping if it was total garbage to return it. If you can afford a better quality machine I would encourage that but again, Most of us are on a careful budget. Hope this helps.
Thanks for your reply - I will certainly take the time to watch your earlier videos.@@deezworkshop
mmm, money. I think there is a point with these kind of hobbies where they need to start paying for themselves if you want to take them further. Hopefully the subscribers will add up on the videos enough for that. I find my hobbies like this take forever. Buying piece parts to build things can take me years as I wait for enough cash to buy the next piece of the puzzle. Sometimes by the time I get to the last piece the first piece is out of date (doh!) Wallet is definitely a big thing with many of these hobbies, video, machining, cad/cam, computers. I should probably buy a lottery ticket. Keep on filming :)
As long as there are people who still enjoy my sharing of my learning and learning projects I intend to keep sharing them. No real gain the RUclips monetization is negligible. As in doesn’t add to much. I do it to help others and share the hobby. Loving this community on the channel.
Hair in the mill drawbar? How tall are you??
Not that tall but the headstock will lower depending on what project im working on and the drawbar is right there at face level.