I love it :) but for material that fine I find I have to run it through a few times cos a fair amount of heavies do get through, maybe I'm too impatient to get the good stuff and should run it much slower first time hahaha
Good work. Apsrt from a few obvious small errors my results pretty much concur with yours. I like the costing and value analysis. Keep up the goos work.
Thanks for watching. Any ideas which could improve my process I'm always happy to hear. Although I like using the blue bowl there are more efficient ways to get the gold out. Have a plan for a future video on that. I'm still working on the process to streamline it, need proper nitric acid which is hard to get in the UK. Got a good way to go yet. My next video will be making my fume hood. Plenty more mistakes to watch there but I have edited out all the swearing after hitting myself with the hammer a few times :) Thanks again
Yeah I try to keep a spreadsheet up to date with the differences from various batches so over time I have built up a decent average of what to expect from each batch. To be honest I was expecting a little more gold from that video, but then when I sat and thought about it, just on 2/3 of the boards where DDR3/DDR4, I have noticed a drop in yields the newer the boards. I'm pretty confident a random batch of 10kg of solely DDR2 would yield more than the same weight of DDR3 or 4. I haven't got that many DDR4 on hand to do a side by side, maybe I should start saving them up for a future project :)
FINALLY someone that does not raise unreasonable expectations for the yield. RUclips videos usually vastly overstate the amount of gold in electronics. This is somewhat on the weak side, but it is still realistic. As usual you are better off selling the stuff on ebay and buy gold for the money than to do that yourself. But I don't sell mine either. ;) Just some remarks to make things easier and less labor intensive. Drop the whole sticks into HCl and bubble air through it and wait. Better: Use a prepared solution of CuCl2 + HCl as an etchant as it speeds up the process. You get separated gold foils, lose BGAs and clean glassfiber boards. Use a coarse sieve to wash foils off the BGAs. Use a magnet to catch MLCCs (most in consumer electronics today are of the worthless magnetic type) Proceed with the foils and the BGAs as before, but with WAY less work.
Thanks for watching Jack and for the suggestions :) I will take these on board. I was hoping for a bit more initially. Yeah some video's I've watched do overstate what's there, I assume its either they have selected really good RAM where they know they have good gold or it's for clickbait views. I agree it is better financially to sell the RAM but I stack any gold I get until the spot price spikes. I will get rid when there's a bit more profit to be had, but I am not really in it for the money, I look at it as a hobby/savings/retirement account :) I did get an extra bit the other day. I was having a bit of a clean up and based on the comments in this video I decided to re-run the BGA dust through a second and third extraction as I was sure there must be something there. I keep all the wastes labelled separately so I can go back and review if needed. I was surprised at how much reaction I was getting from the sulphuric acid and sodium nitrate (Cant buy proper nitric acid here so have to make do). It just kept producing fumes and the colour continued to change so I realised I had missed something. The amount of copper going into solution was very surprising and if there's copper still there there must be gold. Eventually ended up with around an extra 1.1 grams of very dirty gold which I think is still less than what I should have got but I will take it. It wasn't enough to warrant re-doing the video and I didn't bother videoing any of it, was curious more than anything to see if I had missed something. Going forward I will do that process you mention with the whole sticks, for any odd bits of RAM that I get. Only problem with that process for a large batch is it doesn't make for a good video hahaha Can't see many people watching a 15 minute time lapse of bubbles then a 5 minute segment of cleaning up, although as a video in its own right it might be something in the future to show a normal process. When I get large batches I prefer to use the rotisserie kiln to remove the chips first so I can be working on them while the etchant does the work on the boards. I always re-use the etchant but for the purpose of this video as it was a yield based I decided to start fresh so there was no contamination and people can see what is involved. The etchant used in this video has since merged into the normal bucket with the rest. Thanks again for the comments, I appreciate you taking the time to get back to me.
@@scouseurbanminer5106 Great! Maybe you can add the extra 1,1g as a textover at the weighing chapter. Keeping information coherent with updates is always nice. I have the same idea about it. Nice to have as a hobby. If it pays off, great. If it doesn't, who cares? I think it could make sense to get a bit more into chemistry. Like distilling off nitric acid from H2SO4 and Nitrates. Recovering the acids (and metals) from leach solutions once you have loads of it. The channel "nurdrage" has a good collection of step by step instructions. Another hint: You can dissolve all base metals with the help of HCl, although it is not the HCl itself that dissolves copper. HCl and oxidizer together with copper make some CuCl. You might need some H2O2 to jumpstart, but low concentration is okay for that. That CuCl is then further oxidized to CuCl2, when HCl and oxygen is available. And now THIS CuCl2 is the etchant that dissolves all base metals. This is why starting with just HCl is so slow. You first have to make the active ingredient With some time you can get rid of all the base metals consuming only HCl (That can be recovered => NurdRage). This way you only need tiny amounts of nitric acid that you can produce with the method mentioned above.
Hi Jack, I was thinking of amending the video too add on the extra bit but I figure that's what I got so best to be honest about it. I made a mistake assuming the first extraction would get the majority of metals out. I hold my hands up it was a beginners mistake and I should have chased after it once I got the initial weigh in and went back and recorded the extra bit too add it in but in all honesty I had no frame of reference as to what I should expect from these. Having spoken to a few people since I realise that its definately on the very low end of expectations but I still class myself as a beginner so for anyone starting out this is a realistic expectation. I'm sure that over time I will refine the process to get the vast majority. I love Nurdrage's channel :) There isn't much I can do with the eco goldex that Omegageek64 hasn't already covered. I used his guidance to get mine up and running. Check out his video's on this process, start with the earliest one then move up to the upscaled versions, they are long but well explained and well worth a watch, give him a like and subscribe if you haven't already. That's the process I follow. I only mention the eco goldex as it will form part of the HDD video I am in the process of making. I came across a boot full of desktop hard drives some guy wanted rid of, he only wanted 5p each for them :) Bit his hand off, haven't even gone after the gold yet and already more than quadrupled my initial purchase cost just in scrap alluminium, took me 4 weeks just to scrap them all out and separate all the parts. That video is at the point of incineration of IC's, the eco goldex will be on the circuit boards, ribbons, and connectors. I'm not there yet but I will cover it a little in that video. Still a long way to go on it though, weather in the UK is a major factor.
Thanks Tammy ❤ more videos in the same format to follow, don't want to post my next idea on here just YET in case someone beats me to it 😂 but if you've seen Cody's vids you probably have an idea of my next big project with RAM 😊 as well as the upcoming one on HDD's, thanks for the support x ❤
This is a really hard-made video. I admire your passion, but the amount of gold is a little short of the gold content of a typical memory. But it's a really great video. I enjoyed it.
Thanks for watching, i have to admit it took longer than I thought it would doing the editing. Yeah I expected a bit more to be fair, I was hoping for around the 8g mark so it was a bit dissapointing but for a first full video Im happy with the finished product, gives me a template for future video's once I get more gear and improve my process. I've also noticed a couple of mistakes particularly with the amount of extractions on the chips. Im sure there is more there but I have all the wastes to re-process once I have a pile worth going after. As a new hobbyist with a very basic set up and no access to nitric acid, I can't hope to get the same results as others who have been doing this for years but I will get there. Just curious, what would you think the expected yield should be from 10kg of evenly mixed DDR2/3/4 RAM? So I know what to aim for next time. Thanks again Edited at 17:52 GMT - WOW your channel is superb, nice work, I got a lot of your video's to go through, happy days. I wonder why RUclips has never recommended your channel to me, All I watch is gold and silver recovery video's. I've subscribed to make sure I get any new content. Keep up the good work, I love it.
@@scouseurbanminer5106 I have been working in the urban mining business in Korea for a long time. And my channel is not a channel that provides information on gold content. It is a channel that explains why electronic scrap contains a lot of gold or the characteristics of items with a lot of gold.
Thanks. I'm trying to get through your video's and I can follow along with the video content but I cant read the Korean subtitles. As an idea to get you a wider audience, when you create the content can you do your normal video in Korean for your regular followers but then release an extra video with the same content and provide an English subtitle translation. It does not have to be perfect English translation, Google translate is good enough for us to understand the meaning. I think you would get a lot more views and subscribers. Still loving the video's and impressed with your setup. I will get there one day :)
Thank you Sahin ❤ I am making more videos in the same format detailing other gold recovery from pc parts with full costings and yields, as well as devices you can build to make the process cheap and easy for the amateur refiners out there. Thanks again 😊
Interesting yield, I have quite a bit that I am working to process but my yields tend to be significantly higher. My guess is that it is due to the ram that I process being mostly server ram that is dual sided dual stacked (2 chips per row on 2 sides). Great video!
Hi Hascrack, thanks for watching. Yeah I was a bit disappointed and expected a bit more. If you read some other comments I did get an extra bit from the remains (I keep all the remains for additional extractions in case I miss something, in this case I did). When working the remains from this video I noticed an immediate steady reaction to sulphuric acid and sodium nitrate, hinting that there was still a fair amount of metals still present. It yielded a bit more gold (1.1g) but not enough to warrant reworking the video. I decided to leave the video as it was, as that was my result at the time. My main mistake was making assumptions. I should have hit the remains with at least another couple of extractions. Ah well lesson learned on this one. I cant speak to the gold in server rams but I am lead to believe that they do yield a fair bit more than desktop. If you get a decent supply of server ram put a video together. I'd be interested in seeing a yield.. Thanks again
@@scouseurbanminer5106 I definitely need to on my next batch... I usually wait until I have somewhere between 10-20kg to do one. I have a pretty steady supply from work (I work in a datacenter and get all of the ram from old servers that are going to be recycled anyway) so I've been lucky enough to start with terrible yields and work my way up without it costing me any more than the lower net profit from wasted chemicals. I know my method isn't the most time efficient but I use a small muffle furnace to heat the chips to 600c with a constant airflow to ash them and pull the silicon dies out before crushing the results to eliminate most of the heavy materials from what I'm washing. The chips still have a small amount of gold stuck to them but when I get enough I run them separately. I've found it helps with reducing how much is left after the panning step. I also distill my own nitric acid so when I do use it, I can avoid using significant excess like when sodium nitrate and sulphuric is used. Definitely need to make a video myself since I've found the way I do things somewhere in between the ideal way that most videos show and the really haphazard ways others show (closest I've seen is probably yours). I've put it off for awhile but since I recently picked up a solid camera (Sony A6300) I don't really have any excuses now. Edit: I think the part that most people miss is that you're going to make mistakes when you start and you're probably going to throw out some gold. The losses reduce as you do more and learn but it's rare to see people who are in between just starting and experts.
Nice, I'm looking forward to the video, I like to see all the possible ways people do the process so I can try different approaches and see what works best for the equipment I have. Best thing you can buy is a retractable tripod, doesn't need to be anything special, mine cost £5 and holds my phone in both landscape and portrait, that's all you really need. Be extra careful with the decent camera, i only use my proper camera when the battery on the phone runs out :). For a starter get used to using Windows Movie Maker, its nothing fancy, very easy to work with and produces full HD video with minimal effort, the effects are very limited but its a handy system for free. I have changed my process a bit since that video was recorded. I don't use the furnace or the blue bowl anymore (Well I may still use the blue bowl for very large batches) but the clean up sluice is the way to go, way faster than the blue bowl but speed isn't really something that bothers me, i just fancied mixing it up for the next video so decided to build myself a small sluice. I will put the video up of how I done that at some point too (TOO many video's to work on, not enough time). I also do three PMN extractions on the chips before they see any AR. Will be releasing another 10kg video in the next month or so (time and weather permitting) with some different equipment so you can see if I have made any progress :) Still stuck with the cement mixer for a ball mill though, not forking out the money for an actual ball mill unless I start to get more than 10kg's a month coming in. That's something for the future. Yeah I know I will lose some gold (Well not lose it exactly, just haven't got it all yet as nothing gets thrown away:). I'm not bothered about making mistakes, gives people a chance to speak to me and point me in the right direction. Also best way to learn is to make mistakes. I find most of the vids on YT are either too long, too short or just wrong, in particular the vids where they through AR with huge excesses of nitric at their material, its fun to watch but there's no way I could do that here, for a start Nitric is a controlled substance and I cant buy it, and even if I could its way to expensive. I do have a distillation rig but even possessing nitric over 3% is a no-no. I will be trying to keep any future vids to around the 20 mins mark without losing too much of the process. I also intend to actually speak on some upcoming video's so if you catch them you will understand why I am hesitant too speak on my others. I'm from Liverpool, UK, we have a unique accent so will have to be conscious to use my best telephone voice :) Get started on your video, i've subscribed so I get notification. Happy to give your vid a load of full run's through to get your count up
My friend I do appreciate the details that you provided. I found it to be very informative and helpful. If you get it for free, it is worth the effort. Otherwise doing it, and be successful is great fun!! Best regards maarten buma
Hi Maarten, yeah its still worth doing even if you have to pay something for the RAM. EBAY prices are way too high for scrap value, but if you can get them cheap enough and in large enough quantities it's worth the effort. I do it for both a hobby and a savings account assuming gold will increase in value over time. A lot of the RAM I process from month to month is either free from other scrapping sources or very low cost. If I spot a bargain on ebay I will of course try to snipe it :) I made this video purely to see if paying the average ebay prices can be profitable given my existing setup. Im confident that with a more efficient process and the patience to wait for the right listings i think you could make a profit but it would not be very much. You definately need good sources for your scrap to make a business out of this.
Hi, thanks for your comment, I haven't tried to order any nitric, I got weaker sulphuric acid instead (Before the recent change in legislation), it just takes longer to work. I just assume that anywhere that stocks high strength nitric will be regulated.
Very nice video! Very thorough. Funny, you and I do very similar processes. I still use a hand pump (made for bleeding brakes) to pull solution through filters. I don't like the idea of acids and fumes breaking down expensive pumps... so I am good to keep doing that by hand for now. Thanks for putting together that great video.
Cheers Anthony 🍻, yeah I've seen a guy using an aquarium pump in reverse which I will try out and another one using a refrigerator compressor which I might look into also. If they get destroyed I can live with that, they're either cheap or free 🤣 thanks
Both when pulling through a filter and when distilling nitric, I've found that an effective solution to use a piece of labware called a gas scrubber that I fill with a basic solution and place in line in between the cheap vacuum pump (basically a reversed aquarium pump) and whatever I'm pulling the vacuum on. it significantly extends the pump life and reduces the resulting fumes.
I might give this a go but I have several fridge compressors on hand in case this one gives up the ghost. I get about 3 or 4 a week which I mostly just scrap out. The quiet one's that look like they have some life left in them I keep for backups. I am interested in a scrubbing system though. There's another opportunity for a video HasCrack, put a vid together so we can see the setup. The more resources we all pool together the better for us all.
😆, you melt it like i do! Its easier to melt thr damp mud than it is to melt the dry powder. My very first melt, i blew away a gram of gold from the torch.
Thanks for watching hahaha yeah the neighbours wouldn't like that at all hahahaha I'd love to have 300lb's, nice :) I know boardsort pay $25/lb, to me that's £55 GBP per kilo. I'd sell the lot to them and just buy some gold and silver with the funds, keep some of the funds for a little weekend away somewhere with the family and still have a long term investment at the end. Good luck with whatever you decide there metal Thanks again
Hi Phil, thanks for watching, yeah its called a sheet metal sheer from vevor. Here is a link uk.vevor.com/plate-shear-c_10810/8-203-2mm-manual-hand-shear-steel-metal-plate-shear-cutting-solid-long-handle-p_010589800419
Hi! Great video. I sell RAM as scrap on eBay for a recycler to folks like you. I am interested in understanding the value of DDR & pre-DDR RAM vs. DDDR2,3,4 RAM. Is it significantly different? That is, does it make sense for us to sort and sell separately the newer and older RAM? Or should we continue to sell mixed lots based on what comes in?
Hi, thanks for watching. Apparently there is a difference, how big I cannot say for sure but a guy in the comments reckons 9.9g is the target for DDR2/3/4. I can't see it myself I think that might be a little high based on other you tubers results but he is a proper refinery and deals with tonnes of ewaste a month. Best advice is to get whatever you can for your RAM, always host the lot so that it finishes around 9pm on a Friday or Saturday night wherever you are in the world. I've found most bids on my lots tend to be in the mid-late evenings but the best sales nearly always happen on Friday/Saturday late evening. In reality it should sell for a little less than the gold content but I've seen a lot of listing going for way more, others for a bargain. I only buy when it looks like a bargain but these are hard to come across. Hobbyists tend to pay a bit more if the lot is big enough (minimum 2 kilo's unshielded is all I really look at) but then I wont go overboard. I don't mind making small losses as I stack any gold I get as a savings account. A lot of the RAM I get from week to week is from scrapping myself. This video was only to see if it is possible to make a profit from actually buying it. It is if you can fine tune the process and get upwards of 90% of the gold but its fine margins for amateurs like me. In this video I reckon I only got around 70% of the expected gold, but since then, I reworked the chip concentrates and got an additional 1.1g taking the total up to 7g (approx) around the 80-84% mark of what the big youtubers get (I still think there is more in there but I don't throw the remains away, I stockpile all the chip remains and when I get to 10 kilo's of dried remains I might put a video together to see if I missed anything. Proper refiners get all the metals present so they will obviously make more in the end, its why the likes of boardsort pay what they pay, but to be honest I think you make more selling it to hobbyists on ebay. Most sellers sell by weight regardless of the type, I think some of them dont understand that there is a difference, or they do and they just take whatever they get. I don't bother splitting it when selling it but depends how much I have on hand, sometimes I stockpile them, sometimes I process them, sometimes I sell it, really depends on personal finance at the time and whatever else I got going on. DDR1 boards are heavier than DDR2/3/4 as the older IC chips are thicker and all have metal legs. As the boards are heavier they are generally less gold content by weight so might be worthwhile throwing a few sticks DDR1 in a small batch of DDR2/3/4 to get rid of them and bump up the weight, but to be fair, some people pay way over the odds and would just buy it regardless of type. It's difficult to say how a specific lot will do but if you ask any refiner's they would probably agree that selling it then buying gold with the profits is the quickest easiest way to get your gold and doesn't involve messing with the acids or waste. This video isn't really a good guide for experienced refiners, this is a more realistic gold content for newer people, like me, hence the logo :). Anyone who has been doing this a while and has the right chemicals/equipment will likely get 15% more yield first go round. My process has already changed a fair bit since this video but for day to day stuff that I process I don't keep as close an eye on the yields as I should. I'm half way through a couple of video's at the minute, one of which is 10KG DDR1 (534 Boards) only as a comparison to this one, so might be worthwhile checking that out. I depopulated all the boards yesterday so they're nearly ready for refining. Based on other video's I am expecting anywhere between 3.6g and 4.5g, anything less than 3.5g, I would say I have missed some, anything more than 4.5g it's probably not pure and needs refining, that said, you never know really until you do it and hope it all goes well. I am hoping to host the video in the next couple of weeks but that depends on weather, work and family commitments. Cross you fingers for me it's better than expected but I'll be happy with anything over 3g.
Haha yeah I like that part of the process, very satisfying comparing it to my old tin snips 😏 I got it from Vevor. uk.vevor.com/plate-shear-c_10810/8-203-2mm-manual-hand-shear-steel-metal-plate-shear-cutting-solid-long-handle-p_010589800419 not sure if you have these in US. But all your looking to search for is "sheet metal shear" in amazon, think I paid £60-70 for it 18 months ago, with cost of living theyre probably now £80-90
@@scouseurbanminer5106 Sounds great. I will look into it. It will save my hands... I worry a paper cutter (such as I have) will eventually cost me the tips of my fingers
Hi, thanks for watching. As far as I know when SMB is added to the solution it is converted to sulphur dioxide gas. It's the Sulphur dioxide gas that drops the gold out of the solution. Any excess is normally dissolved into solution, provided the solution is not saturated. If you have excess SMB after dropping your gold, and you still have SMB powder at the bottom just add water and stir for a minute or two and it should dissolve into solution.
Thank you Sahin ❤ I plan to make more videos in the same format detailing other gold recovery from pc parts with full costings and yields, as well as devices you can build to make the process cheap and easy for the amateur refiners out there. Thanks again 😊
Hi AT, thanks for watching. Purchased distilled water is expensive given that it's simply distilled water but it wasn't the biggest cost in this video (10 litres at £0.50 per litre (approx £5)). Sulphuric is the most expensive used in this project. HCL used was 9 litres at £1 per litre total £9.00; and Sulphuric was 5.5 litres at £3.30 per litre totalling £18.15. I didn't use any nitric acid in this video which at the minute would cost £6.58 per litre. I think you are referring to the estimates I made before starting the project at ruclips.net/video/CM0I0Xt8gdM/видео.html. The following info explains the total costs. Sorry for any confusion.
got it! thanks for the reply! enjoyed your whole presentation. would have thought return would be higher though. lot of work for very little. keep having fun though 👍
Hello, dear friend, I had a very important question. Thank you for your answer,,,,, there are many sellers on Alibaba China sites and sites like tradekey, and when we ask them for the price, each kilo cpu, the Pentium Pro model, which is the best cpu type and each one has about 0.4 grams of pure gold, they sell only 18 to 25 dollars per kilo ,,,, this price It seems very low, right?? Could it really be true or is it suspicious?
Hi Amiraliii, thanks for watching. I always consider the saying "If it sounds to good to be true it probably is". No one would sell Pentium Pro CPU's for that price when they could easily get the gold out of the chip themselves. They are one of the easiest processors to extract the gold from but the hardest components to find. Most of the older Pentium chips have been recycled long ago and the likelihood is the ones that you see on ebay probably still work and are worth way more than the gold value as collectibles. You may come across a couple as part of scrapping old tech but the chances of someone holding a container full is very very low, and the chances they would be willing to sell it to you for a fraction of its actual value is even lower. There are many you tube video's of people refining these processors and the yields are normally around the 0.4g mark for each chip. I would refer you to the gold refining forum (GRF) where this topic has been discussed many times. I highly recommend you register for an account and have a good look through all their topics., There are some very informed people on the GRF who can help with any aspect of refining precious metals. I have seen the adverts on the sites you mention and they all look suspicious. They all use very old photo's and often repeat the same photos on different listings across different web sites. I personally would not trust the vast majority of the listings. You may get lucky and contact someone that may have some to sell but I don't think you would be able to buy them for $25 dollars per kilo when a single chip is worth approximately $30 in gold content. Hope this helps and be careful who you pass your information onto if you are considering contacting any of the users on the sites you mentioned.
@@scouseurbanminer5106 Thank you very much for your time, all your words and reasons are completely logical, thank you for giving me your valuable time. ❤❤
@@scouseurbanminer5106 You said in the comments that you are from Liverpool,,, I wanted to ask if you are familiar with specialized and local websites for selling waste in England,,, can you tell me some of these local websites? 🙏🙏
None that I am aware of. I get most of my stuff from word of mouth and local businesses. You have to put the work in to get the contacts I am afraid. Sale of E-Waste in the UK is regulated and you need certain licenses especially if you are looking at large scale and specific components. Most large companies won't sell back as they have already got their refiners lined up. You would need to be well established and regulated yourself before they would deal with you. Acquiring wastes is the hardest part of this and I cannot give you any of my local contacts.
Haha they're easy to get if you just want to break even, even easier if you intentionally make a loss. Ebay prices are way too high for scrap if you're looking for profit. I'm not looking at my profits now, I stack my gold and silver. When gold goes mental I will cash in then. If it doesn't it will likely still increase slightly so I doubt I will lose. it's basically a savings account
Hi Allan, thanks for watching. Sort of but it depends on the quality of the modules. Server RAM are generally much better quality and more likely to yields higher results. Also the video only took into account one gold extraction from the chip remains. This was a mistake on my part. A second extraction from the chip remains yielded a further 1.1g taking the final result closer to 7 grams. From reviewing forums and watching many hours of video's on BGA RAM typical yields vary between 0.7g/kg and 1.0g/kg. The 1.0g per kilo is probably a reasonable estimate of the yield from a decent sample of branded boards. I left the result in the video as that was what I achieved on that occasion. It was only after speaking to other youtubers a few weeks after this was published that I decided to re-run the chip remains. I would treat this video as the minimum you should expect from typical BGA style RAM. Assuming you got mostly branded RAM and you can achieve 85% yield that's approx 0.85g/kg. Multiplied by 1000 (Metric tonne) is 850g AU. Current Spot is $74,584 USD x 0.85 = $54,000 USD. Also remember that if you have that quantity it is well worth going after the all the other metals which would probably yield a minimum of an extra 10% return. All that said, DDR2/3/4 RAM currently sells on Ebay for £35-40 per kilo ($44-50 USD). It would be much better to just sell the lot and take what you can get for it then buy some gold and silver and hang onto it for few years or sell up when you think there is a decent profit. No messing with chemicals and no waste to deal with. Hope this helps and thanks again.
Hi, thanks for watching. Google did not translate your comment very well but I understand what you mean. Can you share a link to the video please, I would be interested to see their process. Thanks again
Awesome to see the blue bowl. Its how I refine larger batches as well. It eliminates so much waste
I love it :) but for material that fine I find I have to run it through a few times cos a fair amount of heavies do get through, maybe I'm too impatient to get the good stuff and should run it much slower first time hahaha
Where can I get a blue bowl from?
Good work. Apsrt from a few obvious small errors my results pretty much concur with yours. I like the costing and value analysis. Keep up the goos work.
Thanks for watching. Any ideas which could improve my process I'm always happy to hear. Although I like using the blue bowl there are more efficient ways to get the gold out. Have a plan for a future video on that. I'm still working on the process to streamline it, need proper nitric acid which is hard to get in the UK. Got a good way to go yet. My next video will be making my fume hood. Plenty more mistakes to watch there but I have edited out all the swearing after hitting myself with the hammer a few times :) Thanks again
Where did you get the blue bowl from?
I do appreciate the weight before and after incineration of IC chips. Something Ive thought of myself as being helpful
Yeah I try to keep a spreadsheet up to date with the differences from various batches so over time I have built up a decent average of what to expect from each batch. To be honest I was expecting a little more gold from that video, but then when I sat and thought about it, just on 2/3 of the boards where DDR3/DDR4, I have noticed a drop in yields the newer the boards. I'm pretty confident a random batch of 10kg of solely DDR2 would yield more than the same weight of DDR3 or 4. I haven't got that many DDR4 on hand to do a side by side, maybe I should start saving them up for a future project :)
FINALLY someone that does not raise unreasonable expectations for the yield. RUclips videos usually vastly overstate the amount of gold in electronics. This is somewhat on the weak side, but it is still realistic. As usual you are better off selling the stuff on ebay and buy gold for the money than to do that yourself. But I don't sell mine either. ;)
Just some remarks to make things easier and less labor intensive. Drop the whole sticks into HCl and bubble air through it and wait. Better: Use a prepared solution of CuCl2 + HCl as an etchant as it speeds up the process. You get separated gold foils, lose BGAs and clean glassfiber boards.
Use a coarse sieve to wash foils off the BGAs. Use a magnet to catch MLCCs (most in consumer electronics today are of the worthless magnetic type)
Proceed with the foils and the BGAs as before, but with WAY less work.
Thanks for watching Jack and for the suggestions :) I will take these on board.
I was hoping for a bit more initially. Yeah some video's I've watched do overstate what's there, I assume its either they have selected really good RAM where they know they have good gold or it's for clickbait views.
I agree it is better financially to sell the RAM but I stack any gold I get until the spot price spikes. I will get rid when there's a bit more profit to be had, but I am not really in it for the money, I look at it as a hobby/savings/retirement account :)
I did get an extra bit the other day. I was having a bit of a clean up and based on the comments in this video I decided to re-run the BGA dust through a second and third extraction as I was sure there must be something there. I keep all the wastes labelled separately so I can go back and review if needed. I was surprised at how much reaction I was getting from the sulphuric acid and sodium nitrate (Cant buy proper nitric acid here so have to make do). It just kept producing fumes and the colour continued to change so I realised I had missed something. The amount of copper going into solution was very surprising and if there's copper still there there must be gold. Eventually ended up with around an extra 1.1 grams of very dirty gold which I think is still less than what I should have got but I will take it. It wasn't enough to warrant re-doing the video and I didn't bother videoing any of it, was curious more than anything to see if I had missed something.
Going forward I will do that process you mention with the whole sticks, for any odd bits of RAM that I get. Only problem with that process for a large batch is it doesn't make for a good video hahaha Can't see many people watching a 15 minute time lapse of bubbles then a 5 minute segment of cleaning up, although as a video in its own right it might be something in the future to show a normal process. When I get large batches I prefer to use the rotisserie kiln to remove the chips first so I can be working on them while the etchant does the work on the boards.
I always re-use the etchant but for the purpose of this video as it was a yield based I decided to start fresh so there was no contamination and people can see what is involved. The etchant used in this video has since merged into the normal bucket with the rest.
Thanks again for the comments, I appreciate you taking the time to get back to me.
@@scouseurbanminer5106 Great! Maybe you can add the extra 1,1g as a textover at the weighing chapter. Keeping information coherent with updates is always nice.
I have the same idea about it. Nice to have as a hobby. If it pays off, great. If it doesn't, who cares?
I think it could make sense to get a bit more into chemistry. Like distilling off nitric acid from H2SO4 and Nitrates. Recovering the acids (and metals) from leach solutions once you have loads of it. The channel "nurdrage" has a good collection of step by step instructions.
Another hint: You can dissolve all base metals with the help of HCl, although it is not the HCl itself that dissolves copper. HCl and oxidizer together with copper make some CuCl. You might need some H2O2 to jumpstart, but low concentration is okay for that. That CuCl is then further oxidized to CuCl2, when HCl and oxygen is available. And now THIS CuCl2 is the etchant that dissolves all base metals. This is why starting with just HCl is so slow. You first have to make the active ingredient
With some time you can get rid of all the base metals consuming only HCl (That can be recovered => NurdRage). This way you only need tiny amounts of nitric acid that you can produce with the method mentioned above.
@@scouseurbanminer5106 Another thing: You mentioned an eco goldex process in another video. Do you plan on making a video on that?
Hi Jack, I was thinking of amending the video too add on the extra bit but I figure that's what I got so best to be honest about it. I made a mistake assuming the first extraction would get the majority of metals out. I hold my hands up it was a beginners mistake and I should have chased after it once I got the initial weigh in and went back and recorded the extra bit too add it in but in all honesty I had no frame of reference as to what I should expect from these. Having spoken to a few people since I realise that its definately on the very low end of expectations but I still class myself as a beginner so for anyone starting out this is a realistic expectation. I'm sure that over time I will refine the process to get the vast majority.
I love Nurdrage's channel :)
There isn't much I can do with the eco goldex that Omegageek64 hasn't already covered. I used his guidance to get mine up and running. Check out his video's on this process, start with the earliest one then move up to the upscaled versions, they are long but well explained and well worth a watch, give him a like and subscribe if you haven't already. That's the process I follow. I only mention the eco goldex as it will form part of the HDD video I am in the process of making. I came across a boot full of desktop hard drives some guy wanted rid of, he only wanted 5p each for them :) Bit his hand off, haven't even gone after the gold yet and already more than quadrupled my initial purchase cost just in scrap alluminium, took me 4 weeks just to scrap them all out and separate all the parts. That video is at the point of incineration of IC's, the eco goldex will be on the circuit boards, ribbons, and connectors. I'm not there yet but I will cover it a little in that video. Still a long way to go on it though, weather in the UK is a major factor.
Thanks Tammy ❤ more videos in the same format to follow, don't want to post my next idea on here just YET in case someone beats me to it 😂 but if you've seen Cody's vids you probably have an idea of my next big project with RAM 😊 as well as the upcoming one on HDD's, thanks for the support x ❤
The blue bowl is awesome. I use it myself on large batches of ic chips
I love using the blue bowl, makes it feel like there is some actual mining practices being used and it makes for a good segment on a video :)
Where can I get a blue bowl from? Cheers
This is a really hard-made video. I admire your passion, but the amount of gold is a little short of the gold content of a typical memory. But it's a really great video. I enjoyed it.
Thanks for watching, i have to admit it took longer than I thought it would doing the editing.
Yeah I expected a bit more to be fair, I was hoping for around the 8g mark so it was a bit dissapointing but for a first full video Im happy with the finished product, gives me a template for future video's once I get more gear and improve my process. I've also noticed a couple of mistakes particularly with the amount of extractions on the chips. Im sure there is more there but I have all the wastes to re-process once I have a pile worth going after. As a new hobbyist with a very basic set up and no access to nitric acid, I can't hope to get the same results as others who have been doing this for years but I will get there. Just curious, what would you think the expected yield should be from 10kg of evenly mixed DDR2/3/4 RAM? So I know what to aim for next time.
Thanks again
Edited at 17:52 GMT - WOW your channel is superb, nice work, I got a lot of your video's to go through, happy days. I wonder why RUclips has never recommended your channel to me, All I watch is gold and silver recovery video's. I've subscribed to make sure I get any new content. Keep up the good work, I love it.
@@scouseurbanminer5106 I have been working in the urban mining business in Korea for a long time. And my channel is not a channel that provides information on gold content. It is a channel that explains why electronic scrap contains a lot of gold or the characteristics of items with a lot of gold.
In Korea, the gold content of mixed memory is traded at an average price of about 900 ppm.
Thanks.
I'm trying to get through your video's and I can follow along with the video content but I cant read the Korean subtitles. As an idea to get you a wider audience, when you create the content can you do your normal video in Korean for your regular followers but then release an extra video with the same content and provide an English subtitle translation. It does not have to be perfect English translation, Google translate is good enough for us to understand the meaning. I think you would get a lot more views and subscribers. Still loving the video's and impressed with your setup. I will get there one day :)
Thank you Sahin ❤ I am making more videos in the same format detailing other gold recovery from pc parts with full costings and yields, as well as devices you can build to make the process cheap and easy for the amateur refiners out there. Thanks again 😊
Great job BRO.
Thanks Bou
Brillant video well done it brilliant what you can do .i just get mine ready for one day i will get a good refiner like you
Thanks Patrick. I have subscribed to your channel, I will get through your video's over the next week. That's a lot of content, nice work
@scouseurbanminer5106 thank you so much .much appreciated thanks
Interesting yield, I have quite a bit that I am working to process but my yields tend to be significantly higher. My guess is that it is due to the ram that I process being mostly server ram that is dual sided dual stacked (2 chips per row on 2 sides). Great video!
Hi Hascrack, thanks for watching. Yeah I was a bit disappointed and expected a bit more. If you read some other comments I did get an extra bit from the remains (I keep all the remains for additional extractions in case I miss something, in this case I did). When working the remains from this video I noticed an immediate steady reaction to sulphuric acid and sodium nitrate, hinting that there was still a fair amount of metals still present. It yielded a bit more gold (1.1g) but not enough to warrant reworking the video. I decided to leave the video as it was, as that was my result at the time. My main mistake was making assumptions. I should have hit the remains with at least another couple of extractions. Ah well lesson learned on this one. I cant speak to the gold in server rams but I am lead to believe that they do yield a fair bit more than desktop. If you get a decent supply of server ram put a video together. I'd be interested in seeing a yield.. Thanks again
@@scouseurbanminer5106 I definitely need to on my next batch... I usually wait until I have somewhere between 10-20kg to do one. I have a pretty steady supply from work (I work in a datacenter and get all of the ram from old servers that are going to be recycled anyway) so I've been lucky enough to start with terrible yields and work my way up without it costing me any more than the lower net profit from wasted chemicals. I know my method isn't the most time efficient but I use a small muffle furnace to heat the chips to 600c with a constant airflow to ash them and pull the silicon dies out before crushing the results to eliminate most of the heavy materials from what I'm washing. The chips still have a small amount of gold stuck to them but when I get enough I run them separately. I've found it helps with reducing how much is left after the panning step. I also distill my own nitric acid so when I do use it, I can avoid using significant excess like when sodium nitrate and sulphuric is used.
Definitely need to make a video myself since I've found the way I do things somewhere in between the ideal way that most videos show and the really haphazard ways others show (closest I've seen is probably yours). I've put it off for awhile but since I recently picked up a solid camera (Sony A6300) I don't really have any excuses now.
Edit: I think the part that most people miss is that you're going to make mistakes when you start and you're probably going to throw out some gold. The losses reduce as you do more and learn but it's rare to see people who are in between just starting and experts.
Nice, I'm looking forward to the video, I like to see all the possible ways people do the process so I can try different approaches and see what works best for the equipment I have. Best thing you can buy is a retractable tripod, doesn't need to be anything special, mine cost £5 and holds my phone in both landscape and portrait, that's all you really need. Be extra careful with the decent camera, i only use my proper camera when the battery on the phone runs out :). For a starter get used to using Windows Movie Maker, its nothing fancy, very easy to work with and produces full HD video with minimal effort, the effects are very limited but its a handy system for free.
I have changed my process a bit since that video was recorded. I don't use the furnace or the blue bowl anymore (Well I may still use the blue bowl for very large batches) but the clean up sluice is the way to go, way faster than the blue bowl but speed isn't really something that bothers me, i just fancied mixing it up for the next video so decided to build myself a small sluice. I will put the video up of how I done that at some point too (TOO many video's to work on, not enough time). I also do three PMN extractions on the chips before they see any AR. Will be releasing another 10kg video in the next month or so (time and weather permitting) with some different equipment so you can see if I have made any progress :) Still stuck with the cement mixer for a ball mill though, not forking out the money for an actual ball mill unless I start to get more than 10kg's a month coming in. That's something for the future.
Yeah I know I will lose some gold (Well not lose it exactly, just haven't got it all yet as nothing gets thrown away:). I'm not bothered about making mistakes, gives people a chance to speak to me and point me in the right direction. Also best way to learn is to make mistakes. I find most of the vids on YT are either too long, too short or just wrong, in particular the vids where they through AR with huge excesses of nitric at their material, its fun to watch but there's no way I could do that here, for a start Nitric is a controlled substance and I cant buy it, and even if I could its way to expensive. I do have a distillation rig but even possessing nitric over 3% is a no-no.
I will be trying to keep any future vids to around the 20 mins mark without losing too much of the process. I also intend to actually speak on some upcoming video's so if you catch them you will understand why I am hesitant too speak on my others. I'm from Liverpool, UK, we have a unique accent so will have to be conscious to use my best telephone voice :)
Get started on your video, i've subscribed so I get notification. Happy to give your vid a load of full run's through to get your count up
My friend I do appreciate the details that you provided. I found it to be very informative and helpful. If you get it for free, it is worth the effort. Otherwise doing it, and be successful is great fun!! Best regards maarten buma
Hi Maarten, yeah its still worth doing even if you have to pay something for the RAM. EBAY prices are way too high for scrap value, but if you can get them cheap enough and in large enough quantities it's worth the effort. I do it for both a hobby and a savings account assuming gold will increase in value over time. A lot of the RAM I process from month to month is either free from other scrapping sources or very low cost. If I spot a bargain on ebay I will of course try to snipe it :) I made this video purely to see if paying the average ebay prices can be profitable given my existing setup. Im confident that with a more efficient process and the patience to wait for the right listings i think you could make a profit but it would not be very much. You definately need good sources for your scrap to make a business out of this.
A really informative video thankyou, do you have any difficulties getting nitric acid ?
Hi, thanks for your comment, I haven't tried to order any nitric, I got weaker sulphuric acid instead (Before the recent change in legislation), it just takes longer to work. I just assume that anywhere that stocks high strength nitric will be regulated.
Hell yeah !! Great content just as well.
Thanks x
Very nice video! Very thorough. Funny, you and I do very similar processes. I still use a hand pump (made for bleeding brakes) to pull solution through filters. I don't like the idea of acids and fumes breaking down expensive pumps... so I am good to keep doing that by hand for now.
Thanks for putting together that great video.
Cheers Anthony 🍻, yeah I've seen a guy using an aquarium pump in reverse which I will try out and another one using a refrigerator compressor which I might look into also. If they get destroyed I can live with that, they're either cheap or free 🤣 thanks
hey anthony, ive seen alot of your videos. im not sure if you remember talking to me
Both when pulling through a filter and when distilling nitric, I've found that an effective solution to use a piece of labware called a gas scrubber that I fill with a basic solution and place in line in between the cheap vacuum pump (basically a reversed aquarium pump) and whatever I'm pulling the vacuum on. it significantly extends the pump life and reduces the resulting fumes.
I might give this a go but I have several fridge compressors on hand in case this one gives up the ghost. I get about 3 or 4 a week which I mostly just scrap out. The quiet one's that look like they have some life left in them I keep for backups. I am interested in a scrubbing system though. There's another opportunity for a video HasCrack, put a vid together so we can see the setup. The more resources we all pool together the better for us all.
😆, you melt it like i do! Its easier to melt thr damp mud than it is to melt the dry powder. My very first melt, i blew away a gram of gold from the torch.
hahaha yeah its quicker to dry the powder out too rather than trying to chip it off the bottom of a glass beaker
Great job !
Thanks :)
I have 300lbs of DDR3 but i cant do refining from my apartment LOL. Guess I will be using board sort , Wish I had a local refiner ,
Thanks for watching
hahaha yeah the neighbours wouldn't like that at all hahahaha
I'd love to have 300lb's, nice :)
I know boardsort pay $25/lb, to me that's £55 GBP per kilo. I'd sell the lot to them and just buy some gold and silver with the funds, keep some of the funds for a little weekend away somewhere with the family and still have a long term investment at the end.
Good luck with whatever you decide there metal
Thanks again
Great video. Can you please share model/brand of the guilootine you use to cut off the gold fingers? Thx
Hi Phil, thanks for watching, yeah its called a sheet metal sheer from vevor. Here is a link uk.vevor.com/plate-shear-c_10810/8-203-2mm-manual-hand-shear-steel-metal-plate-shear-cutting-solid-long-handle-p_010589800419
@@scouseurbanminer5106 thank you! Keep up the great vids :)
Hi! Great video. I sell RAM as scrap on eBay for a recycler to folks like you. I am interested in understanding the value of DDR & pre-DDR RAM vs. DDDR2,3,4 RAM. Is it significantly different? That is, does it make sense for us to sort and sell separately the newer and older RAM? Or should we continue to sell mixed lots based on what comes in?
Hi, thanks for watching. Apparently there is a difference, how big I cannot say for sure but a guy in the comments reckons 9.9g is the target for DDR2/3/4. I can't see it myself I think that might be a little high based on other you tubers results but he is a proper refinery and deals with tonnes of ewaste a month.
Best advice is to get whatever you can for your RAM, always host the lot so that it finishes around 9pm on a Friday or Saturday night wherever you are in the world. I've found most bids on my lots tend to be in the mid-late evenings but the best sales nearly always happen on Friday/Saturday late evening.
In reality it should sell for a little less than the gold content but I've seen a lot of listing going for way more, others for a bargain. I only buy when it looks like a bargain but these are hard to come across. Hobbyists tend to pay a bit more if the lot is big enough (minimum 2 kilo's unshielded is all I really look at) but then I wont go overboard. I don't mind making small losses as I stack any gold I get as a savings account.
A lot of the RAM I get from week to week is from scrapping myself. This video was only to see if it is possible to make a profit from actually buying it. It is if you can fine tune the process and get upwards of 90% of the gold but its fine margins for amateurs like me. In this video I reckon I only got around 70% of the expected gold, but since then, I reworked the chip concentrates and got an additional 1.1g taking the total up to 7g (approx) around the 80-84% mark of what the big youtubers get (I still think there is more in there but I don't throw the remains away, I stockpile all the chip remains and when I get to 10 kilo's of dried remains I might put a video together to see if I missed anything. Proper refiners get all the metals present so they will obviously make more in the end, its why the likes of boardsort pay what they pay, but to be honest I think you make more selling it to hobbyists on ebay. Most sellers sell by weight regardless of the type, I think some of them dont understand that there is a difference, or they do and they just take whatever they get. I don't bother splitting it when selling it but depends how much I have on hand, sometimes I stockpile them, sometimes I process them, sometimes I sell it, really depends on personal finance at the time and whatever else I got going on. DDR1 boards are heavier than DDR2/3/4 as the older IC chips are thicker and all have metal legs. As the boards are heavier they are generally less gold content by weight so might be worthwhile throwing a few sticks DDR1 in a small batch of DDR2/3/4 to get rid of them and bump up the weight, but to be fair, some people pay way over the odds and would just buy it regardless of type. It's difficult to say how a specific lot will do but if you ask any refiner's they would probably agree that selling it then buying gold with the profits is the quickest easiest way to get your gold and doesn't involve messing with the acids or waste.
This video isn't really a good guide for experienced refiners, this is a more realistic gold content for newer people, like me, hence the logo :). Anyone who has been doing this a while and has the right chemicals/equipment will likely get 15% more yield first go round. My process has already changed a fair bit since this video but for day to day stuff that I process I don't keep as close an eye on the yields as I should.
I'm half way through a couple of video's at the minute, one of which is 10KG DDR1 (534 Boards) only as a comparison to this one, so might be worthwhile checking that out. I depopulated all the boards yesterday so they're nearly ready for refining. Based on other video's I am expecting anywhere between 3.6g and 4.5g, anything less than 3.5g, I would say I have missed some, anything more than 4.5g it's probably not pure and needs refining, that said, you never know really until you do it and hope it all goes well. I am hoping to host the video in the next couple of weeks but that depends on weather, work and family commitments. Cross you fingers for me it's better than expected but I'll be happy with anything over 3g.
Cool video.
Where can I buy a blue bowl?
HI Jason, thanks for watching. I got mine from Amazon but that was 2 years ago. The cheapest I can find at the minute are on on ebay.
Hey, do you mind sharing where you got your slicer? I use a paper shear. But it can be a bit unwieldy. You got a sweet rig with the slicer you have.
Haha yeah I like that part of the process, very satisfying comparing it to my old tin snips 😏 I got it from Vevor. uk.vevor.com/plate-shear-c_10810/8-203-2mm-manual-hand-shear-steel-metal-plate-shear-cutting-solid-long-handle-p_010589800419 not sure if you have these in US. But all your looking to search for is "sheet metal shear" in amazon, think I paid £60-70 for it 18 months ago, with cost of living theyre probably now £80-90
@@scouseurbanminer5106 Sounds great. I will look into it. It will save my hands... I worry a paper cutter (such as I have) will eventually cost me the tips of my fingers
hi thank u for video but ihave qwetion How do you get rid of smb?
Hi, thanks for watching. As far as I know when SMB is added to the solution it is converted to sulphur dioxide gas. It's the Sulphur dioxide gas that drops the gold out of the solution. Any excess is normally dissolved into solution, provided the solution is not saturated. If you have excess SMB after dropping your gold, and you still have SMB powder at the bottom just add water and stir for a minute or two and it should dissolve into solution.
Çok Teşekkür ederim, izlediğim en detaylı Video idi.Başarılar dilerim.Her şey gönlünce olsun.Videolarının devamı beklerim.Sağlıcakla kal.👍👏👋
Thank you Sahin ❤ I plan to make more videos in the same format detailing other gold recovery from pc parts with full costings and yields, as well as devices you can build to make the process cheap and easy for the amateur refiners out there. Thanks again 😊
27:03...are you serious? distilled water was the most expensive liquid used?
Hi AT, thanks for watching. Purchased distilled water is expensive given that it's simply distilled water but it wasn't the biggest cost in this video (10 litres at £0.50 per litre (approx £5)). Sulphuric is the most expensive used in this project. HCL used was 9 litres at £1 per litre total £9.00; and Sulphuric was 5.5 litres at £3.30 per litre totalling £18.15. I didn't use any nitric acid in this video which at the minute would cost £6.58 per litre. I think you are referring to the estimates I made before starting the project at ruclips.net/video/CM0I0Xt8gdM/видео.html. The following info explains the total costs. Sorry for any confusion.
got it! thanks for the reply! enjoyed your whole presentation. would have thought return would be higher though. lot of work for very little. keep having fun though 👍
Hello, dear friend, I had a very important question. Thank you for your answer,,,,, there are many sellers on Alibaba China sites and sites like tradekey, and when we ask them for the price, each kilo cpu, the Pentium Pro model, which is the best cpu type and each one has about 0.4 grams of pure gold, they sell only 18 to 25 dollars per kilo ,,,,
this price
It seems very low, right?? Could it really be true or is it suspicious?
Hi Amiraliii, thanks for watching. I always consider the saying "If it sounds to good to be true it probably is".
No one would sell Pentium Pro CPU's for that price when they could easily get the gold out of the chip themselves. They are one of the easiest processors to extract the gold from but the hardest components to find. Most of the older Pentium chips have been recycled long ago and the likelihood is the ones that you see on ebay probably still work and are worth way more than the gold value as collectibles.
You may come across a couple as part of scrapping old tech but the chances of someone holding a container full is very very low, and the chances they would be willing to sell it to you for a fraction of its actual value is even lower.
There are many you tube video's of people refining these processors and the yields are normally around the 0.4g mark for each chip. I would refer you to the gold refining forum (GRF) where this topic has been discussed many times. I highly recommend you register for an account and have a good look through all their topics., There are some very informed people on the GRF who can help with any aspect of refining precious metals.
I have seen the adverts on the sites you mention and they all look suspicious. They all use very old photo's and often repeat the same photos on different listings across different web sites. I personally would not trust the vast majority of the listings. You may get lucky and contact someone that may have some to sell but I don't think you would be able to buy them for $25 dollars per kilo when a single chip is worth approximately $30 in gold content.
Hope this helps and be careful who you pass your information onto if you are considering contacting any of the users on the sites you mentioned.
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Thank you very much for your time, all your words and reasons are completely logical, thank you for giving me your valuable time.
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You said in the comments that you are from Liverpool,,, I wanted to ask if you are familiar with specialized and local websites for selling waste in England,,, can you tell me some of these local websites?
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None that I am aware of. I get most of my stuff from word of mouth and local businesses. You have to put the work in to get the contacts I am afraid. Sale of E-Waste in the UK is regulated and you need certain licenses especially if you are looking at large scale and specific components. Most large companies won't sell back as they have already got their refiners lined up. You would need to be well established and regulated yourself before they would deal with you. Acquiring wastes is the hardest part of this and I cannot give you any of my local contacts.
@@scouseurbanminer5106 ok,,thank you
omg i wish i had that many ram sticks
Haha they're easy to get if you just want to break even, even easier if you intentionally make a loss. Ebay prices are way too high for scrap if you're looking for profit. I'm not looking at my profits now, I stack my gold and silver. When gold goes mental I will cash in then. If it doesn't it will likely still increase slightly so I doubt I will lose. it's basically a savings account
@Scouse Urban Miner yeah a couple of weeks ago gold hit an all time high of 2080 usa per ounce
That's the plan, all the stackers have been predicting a big spike for the last year or so
So i need 1ton of ram sticks to make $30k
Hi Allan, thanks for watching.
Sort of but it depends on the quality of the modules. Server RAM are generally much better quality and more likely to yields higher results. Also the video only took into account one gold extraction from the chip remains. This was a mistake on my part. A second extraction from the chip remains yielded a further 1.1g taking the final result closer to 7 grams. From reviewing forums and watching many hours of video's on BGA RAM typical yields vary between 0.7g/kg and 1.0g/kg. The 1.0g per kilo is probably a reasonable estimate of the yield from a decent sample of branded boards. I left the result in the video as that was what I achieved on that occasion. It was only after speaking to other youtubers a few weeks after this was published that I decided to re-run the chip remains. I would treat this video as the minimum you should expect from typical BGA style RAM. Assuming you got mostly branded RAM and you can achieve 85% yield that's approx 0.85g/kg. Multiplied by 1000 (Metric tonne) is 850g AU. Current Spot is $74,584 USD x 0.85 = $54,000 USD. Also remember that if you have that quantity it is well worth going after the all the other metals which would probably yield a minimum of an extra 10% return. All that said, DDR2/3/4 RAM currently sells on Ebay for £35-40 per kilo ($44-50 USD). It would be much better to just sell the lot and take what you can get for it then buy some gold and silver and hang onto it for few years or sell up when you think there is a decent profit. No messing with chemicals and no waste to deal with.
Hope this helps and thanks again.
دوستان عزیز ببخشید اگر از 10kg رم کمتر از 10 گرم استخراج کرده باشید شما حقیقت بازی کرده اید موفق باشید
Hi, thanks for watching. Google did not translate your comment very well but I understand what you mean. Can you share a link to the video please, I would be interested to see their process. Thanks again