I love how you introduced both of these players! You really gave me a sense of who these two are, what their strengths are, etcetera. It’s like you’re giving an earnest pitch about two teams, and as we listen we empathize more with one or the other innately and decide then who to root for. (Sorry for grammar I am very high.)
Damn... i stopped playing in 2015. thought the game will be dead now.. and here iam ... watchin your commentaries again. being happy af and startet SC2 again. thx lowko
Nah, I doubt this game would be dead. SC is one of the most incredible real strategy game in history. In fact, it is Blizzard's diamond. Even non-SC players found this game to be intriguing.
True, I think it's often because they like to show the top 5 players most of the time, so anyone else is often against them in these casts. She typically isn't going to beat Serral, Maru, Byun, Dark (?) or Hero. I totally agree with you though that when she makes an appearance they often make it about how interesting her opponent is, and that's very frustrating.
To be fair, I rarely see a game with her that isn't fun to watch. Even if she loses, she alwaya puts up an entertaining fight. But I am glad she wins once in a while.
I've seen adept shades bait widow mines. I've seen archons dropped directly on banes. The next thing I wanna see is a full medivac get yoinked by a viper mid boost.
I miss when gumiho would get bored in the longer games and just spam thors repeatedly over and over and over again. I’ll have to look for the game, but he ended up losing 42 thors if memory serves me right. Still won tho
So glad Lowko mentioning how powerful Creep is for Zerg. It is INSANE the map awareness Zerg has. Even as you're losing it, you know where they have some forces at because... well, they're clearing your creep. Obviously I'm not a pro but I've always felt Zerg is the most powerful race by a margin if you're good at it. Vipers are so cost effective
Remember, Zerg has the lowest HP units compared to the other races and less fire power since their weapons are mostly traditional. But I admit Zerg's spellcasters are by far the most superior of all, have the most useful utilities for battle tide manipulation which needs to be eliminated quickly by ghost snipe if you play against them.
Scarlett n'a laissé aucune chance a ghumino qui n'a pas su ralentir la production cu creepe et encore moins l énorme avantage économique de Scarlett a part gros dérapage de celle ci il n avez aucune chance de gagner. La Scarlett et vraiment la femme la plus puissante de StarCraft elle mérite bien son surnom de reine des larves ❤️❤️❤️
Creep spread is a useful mechanic for the Zerg, but they don't have the ability to create fortresses like the Terrian. They can only ever trade and liquidate the opposing army. I've always enjoyed the fact that Scarlett stays true to the style of the Zerg. She plays a bit gimmicky sometimes, but you can tell she has a Heart for the Swarm.
What do you mean by "Fortresses"? Are you talking about Planetary Fortresses? Zerg has so many counters to a Planetary that it's silly: Corruptors, Brood Lords, Lurkers, Viper's Blinding Cloud, Ravager's Bile, Ultras to just tank the damage. Meanwhile, Creep give you perfect awareness of everything standing on or flying above it and increases the movement speed of Zerg's already insanely fast units. Of course, you have to work to spread it, but that's just a skill issue, not a hard limit.
@Josh What I mean by a fortress is a defensive structure. With the Terrain, you need to build several buildings to increase your supply and produce an army at an efficient rate. This gives you the incentive to build a wall against the swarm. With the unit types the terrain has you can hold ground better than the Zerg could. The Zerg require the scouting information before you reach their hatchery because they can only reply with an army. Side note: Creep spread and queen injections require multi-tasking from a Zerg. Because these two mechanics exist, it is more likely that the Zerg player will have insufficient trades. Meaning they need to expand and build armies quickly to overwhelm the opponent.
@@jeromenewsome2596 What? No they aren't! They aren't even CLOSE! All a sensor tower does is let you know that something is nearby. It doesn't provide vision or let you target into the area. It doesn't increase the movement speed of your units. It doesn't deny Zerg and Protoss from building structures within its range. It doesn't require a stealth detector to destroy it. Seriously, have you ever PLAYED as Terran? Or worse, Protoss? It's like playing blind! A good Zerg will have half the map covered in creep by the mid-game, forcing the opponent to spend time and resources clearing it out... if they can. It provides so much information that playing the other races feels like playing in total darkness!
Gumiho didn't play those games very well, but they still stood as an example of everything wrong with Zerg in modern SC2. When the game was first released, the advantages of Creep, the Larva system, the insanely powerful Zerg spellcasters, and the ridiculous speed of almost every Zerg unit were not a major problem. Players didn't value creep spread, they weren't as proficient in their builds, they didn't take bases as quickly, they didn't manage their Queens as well, etc. Now, though, it's obvious that Zerg has a DRAMATICALLY higher potential than Terran or Protoss at pretty much every point in the game. This is evidenced by how well Zerg can both press an advantage and recover from being behind. Lose your whole army of Roaches, Ravagers, and Vipers? No problem! Make a round of Banelings and Roaches and push back the diminished Terran army because fighting on-creep is such a dramatic advantage! Never mind that the reinforcing units move at warp speed and pop out of the hatcheries that are close to the front lines... It's becoming so that Terran and Protoss need to either use cheese or hyper-aggressive strategies from the very outset, with the hopes of keeping the game at low-tech, small armies. Of course, that means you need to find a way to deal with Roaches -- the game's ultimate safety unit: tanky, fast, ranged, heavy-hitting, and able to "live twice" with proper micro by turning them into Ravagers when they get low on health.
You are so wrong it's insane. Definitely sounds like you are a gold league player, maybe plat on a good day. If you invest in harassing units and do no damage then yeah, zerg will outscale you. But terran should ALWAYS trade better than zerg, if you are trading equal as a terran, you are actually losing and just a bad player. So if the zerg gets to the 15 min mark with equal loses you are just outclassed in that match (which is what happened in the video). Zerg and Terran are both probably stronger than Protoss right now after the last nerfs, but Terran is viewed as the strongest race right now, so if you think Zerg is "DRAMATICALLY" higher potential, it;s not the race, it's you thats the problem.
I thought on Orbitals since you can track your enemy once you know where to scan. You don't risk anything but investment but pays off a lot. Both Creep and Scan are really good though. Protoss, observers....
So sometimes you say high level and sometimes you say professional match of Starcraft II, are you trying to make a distinction between the two tiers of players or is it something that you don't intend to make a distinction between.
I feel so embarassed with the Terran with the first game here. He boxed himself and didn't initiate any substantial counter attack. He got outplayed and outclassed here.
Marine Splits will never get Terran up to par with zergling speed + creep speed bonus + baneling speed bonus.. Banes and zerglings are equivalent to always stimmed marines.. Tanks are not the answer to terrans zerg woes... Can never produce enough tanks, hellions should be the appropriate counter as hellbats have + light damage to banes and zergs.. Hellbats counter light units, whereas marines/marauders can deal with the armored zerg units... Zerg has a number game advantage heavily against terran... These long games of terran bunker mode are old, terran can't get the offensive advantage... Every zerg can for the most part just outnumber every terran 2-1 with zergs/banes/hydras... There's no way hydras have a real terran counter at just 75 minerals a piece
"Grasp defeat from the jaws of victory" - Lowko always puts a smile on my face 😄
I hear that often from a Gnomish Rear Admiral.
44:30 if anyone wants a specific timestamp.
"Dotting your i's, crossing your t's, that's the way to be." - The Merchant
Always love seeing Scarlett, still remember geeking out about her creep spread way back in the day and how unique she played. Simpler times for sure.
2 creative players up against each other! Always great seeing both of them.
I love how you introduced both of these players! You really gave me a sense of who these two are, what their strengths are, etcetera. It’s like you’re giving an earnest pitch about two teams, and as we listen we empathize more with one or the other innately and decide then who to root for.
(Sorry for grammar I am very high.)
Damn... i stopped playing in 2015. thought the game will be dead now.. and here iam ... watchin your commentaries again. being happy af and startet SC2 again. thx lowko
Game still going strong!
I really hope this games continues to persist as long as possible
Same here. I just started it back up a few weeks ago after 8 years. So nostalgic and still hard af lol
Nah, I doubt this game would be dead. SC is one of the most incredible real strategy game in history. In fact, it is Blizzard's diamond. Even non-SC players found this game to be intriguing.
SC2 never die !!!
3:38 [Gumiho's not as fast], especially [compared to] the marine splits we see coming out of Byun, *and Gumiho,* and Maru, and Clem...
came to the comment section for this.
@@L4kken Hehe me too. I thought that was funny
3:40 gumiho cant split like byan, gumiho, clem, maru. lowko how did he ends up on both sides of the listxD?
Gumiho is not as good as Gumiho. 😂😂😂
The creep spread this series was truly impressive!
"(Gurgles), thank you for flying Zerg Airlines."
"Would you like to purchase a chew toy on your way out?"
"Kekekeke!"
God I love seeing Scarlett owning. 112 lings on production at one point. THAT's what I wanna see from zerg. So good.
That's the zerg dream right there
3:38 so GuMiho isn't as good as himself at marine splits? lol
Me with good non-creaky joints in the past, dunking on me in the present with my joints that howl like sirens when I move.
33:54 "Do it for us, do it for one another, do it for yourself and do it for each other, regardless of the scoreboard" - Lowko probably
The Queen of Blades deserves all spotlights! So glad to see her matches casted
omg i just readed qu33r nvm
Finally! A Scarlett win... iv seen so many games where she was on fire yet still lost so this is great to see!
True, I think it's often because they like to show the top 5 players most of the time, so anyone else is often against them in these casts. She typically isn't going to beat Serral, Maru, Byun, Dark (?) or Hero.
I totally agree with you though that when she makes an appearance they often make it about how interesting her opponent is, and that's very frustrating.
True! Had a similar thought. A 2-0 sweep is the icing on the cake too!
Scarlet is a Men…
hum. I thought the exact opposite: I assumed it was forbidden from casting games S didn't win.
To be fair, I rarely see a game with her that isn't fun to watch. Even if she loses, she alwaya puts up an entertaining fight. But I am glad she wins once in a while.
14:50 are we just not gonna talk about the stuck Marauder there?
We need every future video to have this player introduction Lowko
I like your relaxed editing style :)
I'm new to Sc2, so it's nice to see players I haven't seen yet! Nice vid lowko!
Look up Scarlett vs. Bomber for one of the greatest games of professional SC2 ever played.
Well Congratulations and a warm welcome.
It really amazes me that there are still new people getting in touch with Sc2.
Its awesome though
I've seen adept shades bait widow mines. I've seen archons dropped directly on banes. The next thing I wanna see is a full medivac get yoinked by a viper mid boost.
Introduction does the best Lowkos. lmao
Love you Lowko! Been watching you for years!
Feel bad for the Marauder at 14:51 getting trapped because of a siege tank
When he said gumiho wasn’t good at splits he said he was good at splits right after lol.
I miss when gumiho would get bored in the longer games and just spam thors repeatedly over and over and over again. I’ll have to look for the game, but he ended up losing 42 thors if memory serves me right. Still won tho
Least polite Canadian gameplay i’ve seen :O
18:28 omg this timing, it's literally a second😮😮😮, I meant not even a second haha
So glad Lowko mentioning how powerful Creep is for Zerg. It is INSANE the map awareness Zerg has. Even as you're losing it, you know where they have some forces at because... well, they're clearing your creep. Obviously I'm not a pro but I've always felt Zerg is the most powerful race by a margin if you're good at it. Vipers are so cost effective
Remember, Zerg has the lowest HP units compared to the other races and less fire power since their weapons are mostly traditional. But I admit Zerg's spellcasters are by far the most superior of all, have the most useful utilities for battle tide manipulation which needs to be eliminated quickly by ghost snipe if you play against them.
Scarlett n'a laissé aucune chance a ghumino qui n'a pas su ralentir la production cu creepe et encore moins l énorme avantage économique de Scarlett a part gros dérapage de celle ci il n avez aucune chance de gagner. La Scarlett et vraiment la femme la plus puissante de StarCraft elle mérite bien son surnom de reine des larves ❤️❤️❤️
This is exactly how I think of Scarletts plays. Just swarming everything like a true Queen of Blades would 🥰
Lowko video + pizza = nice
Creep spread is a useful mechanic for the Zerg, but they don't have the ability to create fortresses like the Terrian. They can only ever trade and liquidate the opposing army. I've always enjoyed the fact that Scarlett stays true to the style of the Zerg. She plays a bit gimmicky sometimes, but you can tell she has a Heart for the Swarm.
What do you mean by "Fortresses"? Are you talking about Planetary Fortresses? Zerg has so many counters to a Planetary that it's silly: Corruptors, Brood Lords, Lurkers, Viper's Blinding Cloud, Ravager's Bile, Ultras to just tank the damage.
Meanwhile, Creep give you perfect awareness of everything standing on or flying above it and increases the movement speed of Zerg's already insanely fast units. Of course, you have to work to spread it, but that's just a skill issue, not a hard limit.
@Josh What I mean by a fortress is a defensive structure. With the Terrain, you need to build several buildings to increase your supply and produce an army at an efficient rate. This gives you the incentive to build a wall against the swarm. With the unit types the terrain has you can hold ground better than the Zerg could.
The Zerg require the scouting information before you reach their hatchery because they can only reply with an army.
Side note: Creep spread and queen injections require multi-tasking from a Zerg. Because these two mechanics exist, it is more likely that the Zerg player will have insufficient trades. Meaning they need to expand and build armies quickly to overwhelm the opponent.
Not to mention sensor tower are close to the same thing
@@jeromenewsome2596 What? No they aren't! They aren't even CLOSE! All a sensor tower does is let you know that something is nearby. It doesn't provide vision or let you target into the area. It doesn't increase the movement speed of your units. It doesn't deny Zerg and Protoss from building structures within its range. It doesn't require a stealth detector to destroy it.
Seriously, have you ever PLAYED as Terran? Or worse, Protoss? It's like playing blind! A good Zerg will have half the map covered in creep by the mid-game, forcing the opponent to spend time and resources clearing it out... if they can. It provides so much information that playing the other races feels like playing in total darkness!
@@Josh-99 can simply scan
I wish the developer make Liberator's air attack to be more impactful, like Valkyrie from StarCraft Broodwar. SC2 Terran does need more air power.
3:42 apparently Gumiho is WAY better at splitting marines than that pleb GuMiho
"I didn't hear no bell" - every terran player.
Sehr schön ^^
Very IMPORTANT question: where id Florencio and his videos?? Is he dead?
Gumiho didn't play those games very well, but they still stood as an example of everything wrong with Zerg in modern SC2.
When the game was first released, the advantages of Creep, the Larva system, the insanely powerful Zerg spellcasters, and the ridiculous speed of almost every Zerg unit were not a major problem. Players didn't value creep spread, they weren't as proficient in their builds, they didn't take bases as quickly, they didn't manage their Queens as well, etc. Now, though, it's obvious that Zerg has a DRAMATICALLY higher potential than Terran or Protoss at pretty much every point in the game.
This is evidenced by how well Zerg can both press an advantage and recover from being behind. Lose your whole army of Roaches, Ravagers, and Vipers? No problem! Make a round of Banelings and Roaches and push back the diminished Terran army because fighting on-creep is such a dramatic advantage! Never mind that the reinforcing units move at warp speed and pop out of the hatcheries that are close to the front lines...
It's becoming so that Terran and Protoss need to either use cheese or hyper-aggressive strategies from the very outset, with the hopes of keeping the game at low-tech, small armies. Of course, that means you need to find a way to deal with Roaches -- the game's ultimate safety unit: tanky, fast, ranged, heavy-hitting, and able to "live twice" with proper micro by turning them into Ravagers when they get low on health.
You are so wrong it's insane. Definitely sounds like you are a gold league player, maybe plat on a good day. If you invest in harassing units and do no damage then yeah, zerg will outscale you. But terran should ALWAYS trade better than zerg, if you are trading equal as a terran, you are actually losing and just a bad player. So if the zerg gets to the 15 min mark with equal loses you are just outclassed in that match (which is what happened in the video). Zerg and Terran are both probably stronger than Protoss right now after the last nerfs, but Terran is viewed as the strongest race right now, so if you think Zerg is "DRAMATICALLY" higher potential, it;s not the race, it's you thats the problem.
scarlett games are my favorites!
As a Gumiho fan, yeah, that was painful to watch.
Letsssssss go!!!!!!!
Most OP mechanic is planetary fortress. Zerg needs vision cause ur always sacrificing bases
I thought on Orbitals since you can track your enemy once you know where to scan. You don't risk anything but investment but pays off a lot. Both Creep and Scan are really good though. Protoss, observers....
great game!
protoss have the worst vision atleast terran have sensor towers and scanning. Which is weird because Protoss is supposed to be the most advanced
Heaven vs hell the tings gave the hellions ghonirhea
Minerals matter he did not hol his ground
What is with the random fungal at 11:40?
Missclick
I do not get a special joy from seeing zerg winning. However, I do get a special joy from seeing terran losing.
gumi god ... GM excelent cast
Wen he made the 4 hatch dat was the only time and last time this guy had to win
So sometimes you say high level and sometimes you say professional match of Starcraft II, are you trying to make a distinction between the two tiers of players or is it something that you don't intend to make a distinction between.
Maybe he says professional in the literal meaning of the word being for large amounts of money
Want ask Terran mech how to counter swarm host rush 😅
I feel so embarassed with the Terran with the first game here. He boxed himself and didn't initiate any substantial counter attack. He got outplayed and outclassed here.
Veltins !
Cuz den he went 2 vs 7 hatch
Gumihole is flirtin with his 3 vs 4 ass need for speed to die slow instead of basicaly leting scarlet take him out anywayne
First drones squad down means u lost
Its kinda l8ke a ufc fight starcraft
Zerg op
salty terran comment lol, keep saying zerg op no matter who the player is
This game was an absolute bratwurst. Also, this video is so Dutch that it puts mayonnaise on its fries.
zerg op
salty terran comment lol, keep saying zerg op no matter who the player is. So biased
First match
Marine Splits will never get Terran up to par with zergling speed + creep speed bonus + baneling speed bonus..
Banes and zerglings are equivalent to always stimmed marines.. Tanks are not the answer to terrans zerg woes... Can never produce enough tanks, hellions should be the appropriate counter as hellbats have + light damage to banes and zergs..
Hellbats counter light units, whereas marines/marauders can deal with the armored zerg units... Zerg has a number game advantage heavily against terran... These long games of terran bunker mode are old, terran can't get the offensive advantage...
Every zerg can for the most part just outnumber every terran 2-1 with zergs/banes/hydras... There's no way hydras have a real terran counter at just 75 minerals a piece
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Scarlett faced him man to man and came out on top
We got a lotta simps here , as halarious as it is.
Take a look T howzwrg evolved for wat overmind nos