While this is correct, Ati and Leras didn't get stabbed with nightblood. Everyone on roshar that we've seen get stabbed by nightblood disappears and is absorbed into the sword. It probably has something to do with Rayse being a vessel, but there's definitely something interesting going on here.
@@LoreoftheWorlds doesn’t the text suggest that the investiture from the vessel was so much that it sated nightblood. So likely the investiture in the body was so much that it couldn’t absorb it all?
@@edwardguest1404 just read this section to make sure. The text doesn't explicitly say anything about this, but words of Brandon have definitely hinted at such. There is definitely something very strange going on here, but I'm not sure exactly what.
I'm the forever DM for two different groups of D&D players. I've placed Nightblood in every campaign I've ever DMed, sometimes playing a pivotal role, sometimes as a temptation or a trap for the players, and sometimes as background scenery. It was used as a trap by the Demonlord of Ashmouth in Innistrahd, to protect his horde of soul coins. It was held by Mab and given to one of my players to enable them to kill Davy Jones (Dresdenverse Wild West campaign), Nicodemus Arcleone later had it stashed in a golf bag several hundred years later in a cyberpunk Dresdenverse campaign), and most recently my players discovered it in the Amber Temple in Curse of Strahd, where the wizard picked it up and nearly killed himself before he made a wisdom save. I've been working on the stats of the sword for a while for D&D, but essentially it allows someone with a lot of spell slots (which is investiture in the D&D universe) to become a sort of dark Paladin. But it's not particularly good in the hands of your average fighter or barbarian (in fact they are likely to die if they try to wield it). Really, it is an NPC character in its own right.
We are spoilt for you videos lately! Love seeing your older opening, honestly. Thank you very much for your hard work. So, NIghtblood has fascinated me for a while. Sanderson can do a lot with him, and that makes theory crafting a lot harder. As one of the few examples of a completely "artificial" intelligence, and caries many implications for computer-based AI and how they can interact with investiture, though that makes sense, seeing as objects have thoughts in the Cosmere. One Nightblood-related theory I once saw on reddit that has stuck in my mind (even then I don't completely subscribe to it) is that since Nightblood's command is to "Destroy Evil", and he absorbs (and figuratively eats) investiture, then it logically progresses that investiture is evil. The implications of this intrigue me, though the theorizer then went on to argue that this means the ending of the Cosmere will be non-Shards vs Shards (which I very much dislike, as I think it will be people vs people). The counter-argument for this is the fact that "Evil" is subjective in nature, with very few objective elements that make up it's set. Which means that some being, force or individual considers investiture to be evil. This is even more interesting, in my opinion. But I agree with Khriss when see says that all manifestations of investiture are neutral (Ars Arcanum of MB Era 2), and it's suggested that she knows things even Hoid doesn't. I have one massive question. Where does the investiture go? If Nightblood can be satiated, that suggests that they store the investiture. But if they get hungry again, then what happens to the investiture. Investiture cannot be made or destroyed, so is something collecting it for some other plan. If I was to guess anyone, I'd guess Edgli (Endowment), seeing as she definitely had a hand in making it (seeing as it was Returned who made it, and she decides who Returns and why). I've wondered for a while what she's scheming, and what her machinations are leading towards. After all, Vasher still hasn't completed his purpose. I wonder if Nightblood will eventually go to Threnody. After all, there is a force, being or individual there called "The Evil". Maybe that was what he was made to combat.
Ooh that is interesting about the intention of evil taking a certain entity's view on investiture. One thing I'd add to that is Nightblood was made on Endowment's world, and we know she was one of the few shards to try and remain isolated. Perhaps she knows something about investiture that causes her to deem it evil.(Or at least any physical manifestation of it) (Maybe the reason they agreed to shatter Adonalsium?) Ok maybe reading too much into it at the end but still an interesting thought.
Fantastic as always! I can't emphasis enough how much I appreciate the quality, and additional entertainment value you throw in, of these Cosmere videos you put out.
Since night blood devoured as much investiture as it could from the Odium shard, does that mean Odium is permanently weakened? I'm wondering how similar this is to how Preservations power seemed permanently weakened after he gave free will to humanity on Scadrial.
Great video. I have been working on a semi functional model of NightBlood. Have some CAD files ready, and will be talking with someone at my local machine shop soon to see what they have to say
@@LoreoftheWorlds Probably going to end up quite an expensive project, but should be getting the plan fully fleshed out soon. CNC two halves, weld them together, grind down the seam, get some kind of smoke emitter inside the hilt
I think Dalinar could potentially ascend to reform Honor. Having to fight Odium’s champion is daunting and could potentially be too much. Another exciting, albeit unlikely, possibility is that Navani could also ascend to become Cultivation. Cultivation has shown herself to be cunning and played the long game by granting Taravangian capacity to prepare him to ascend to Odium. She may not be evil, necessarily, but could have more ill intent than we can see at this point. Taravangian will undoubtedly attempt to shatter Cultivation, leaving the shards power in need of a new vessel. The only reason I believe Navani could potentially ascend is because that would give her and Dalinar the ability to stay together through the tragedy of his own ascension. (Granted, it could just be a tragic love story.) They would perhaps be able to unite the two shards into one as we’ve seen with the ascension of Sazed to become Harmony (Preservation and Ruin). More and more shards could be finding their compliment, resulting in the slow reconstruction of Adonalsium. It could be a force too great to remain permanently shattered by humans and, to a being to which time means nothing, could take millennia to reassemble itself.
@@LoreoftheWorlds thank you for finding it! Thought I remembered something like that! Am curious if just entering the perpendicularity would have fixed the honour blade then? Or is intent required?
So my theory is a doozy. Nightblood was made by Shashara with the Command Destroy Evil. The Five Scholars were trying to duplicate Shardblade not knowing that they were actually Spren, spren formed around Ideals. If we compare Nightblood's Command to Radiant Ideals it highly correlates with what we know of the Fifth Ideal from the Skybreakers, a definite unchanging statement. The issue is Skybreakers and all the other Orders have 3 other Ideals plus the Words of Radiance as a foundation for that 5th Ideal. The Five Scholars unknowingly made a spren with a Command with the equivalence of a 5th level Ideal. Next, we know from Warbreaker that Vasher killed Shashara with Nightblood. This means the keyed Breaths used to Awaken Nightblood are locked within Nightblood. Or are they?!? Nightblood Destroys Evil but let's say it can't Destroy a Returned's Breath especially if that Returned was its Awakener. I think Endowment knew this would happen and that secretly Nightblood contains a sliver of Shashara's Identity to Command itself. Finally after all this Investure that Nightblood has consumed, I think they may get a body in the Cognitive Realm. I know we see Azure's Awakened Sword in the Shadesmar just as a sword, but if there ever was a time, I think eating a perpendicularity and part of a god means we could see a "new" character, Nightblood, galavanting around the Shadesmar.
This is suuuuuuuper interesting! I'd love to see what a cognitive representation of Nightblood looks like. He was modeled after the shardblades after all, which are just spren in a physical form. Huh. I will be thinking about this theory a lot for sure.
It is my belief that the word “orthogonality” instead of the word 12:22 ”perpendicular “. Orthogonality is just perpendicular in multidimensional systems.
Most of the pictures are fan art, and all of the creators of those are credited at the end of the video. Some images are official depictions, which can be found in the end pages of the books. And the rest was rendered by me in blender. Let me know if you need any specific links and I'll look them up for you
I wonder if Nightblood will end up killing more vessels eventually. It would be cool to see it on more planets and at this point its fully cemented itself as something of cosmere wide significance.
@@LoreoftheWorlds well my initial thought was Todium, but I doubt that Sanderson would use the same method on the same shard twice. It’s in Roshar right now so him and Cultivation are the most likely suspects. Outside of that, I think it would be cool to see it show up in more series. The most likely would be Mistborn, being another core series, which would put Harmony at risk which I REALLY don’t want to happen, but it would be an interesting side story. Honestly though? Probably Bavadin or some of her avatars. She’s kind of a subtle character in her part of the story, but she does seem to be set up as a potential antagonist, and her avatars pop up everywhere so it’s not too much of a stretch to assume that at some point one of them might be attacked by Nightblood
Do you think Nightblood would be changed by sucking up investiture from both Honor and Odium? I guess the question is whether the intent of the investiture was fixed at the moment Nightblood was created or whether it can be changed from interacting with other shards....
Either way, it's one of the most powerful objects in the Cosmere. It's just a normal sword that's been Awakened an unreasonable amount of Breath, and given the very vague command to destroy evil. I wouldn't be surprised if either Endowment played a part in Nightblood's existence, or Shashara got a hold of a Dawnshard somehow.
I think I could tell that Brandon was getting sick of writing in Roshar as the book went on. Part 1 was the best part of any Cosmere book, imo. RoW was my least favorite book, though. The 3 dudes in a room scene especially was just not as hashed out or clear as it could have been I think. It just became confusing tbh. Nightblood is terrifying and I have more questions than I do answers right now.
I kind of get that impression too. I hope he does it big in book 5, then takes a much deserved break from roshar for a while, as much as I want more books set there. Id rather him take a long break and WANT to return than the opposite.
@@Jon_Browne gahhhhh I just saw this right now!!!! So stoked! So I was right, he was burned out..... In 2019 lol Now he's over it and with 5 new books? That's insane!!!
I think Rayse’s body appearing in the physical realm is just what happens when a vessel dies- the same happens with Ati and Leras
yea i was gunna suggest something similar
While this is correct, Ati and Leras didn't get stabbed with nightblood.
Everyone on roshar that we've seen get stabbed by nightblood disappears and is absorbed into the sword.
It probably has something to do with Rayse being a vessel, but there's definitely something interesting going on here.
@@LoreoftheWorlds doesn’t the text suggest that the investiture from the vessel was so much that it sated nightblood. So likely the investiture in the body was so much that it couldn’t absorb it all?
@@edwardguest1404 just read this section to make sure. The text doesn't explicitly say anything about this, but words of Brandon have definitely hinted at such. There is definitely something very strange going on here, but I'm not sure exactly what.
@@LoreoftheWorlds yes it will be very curious to see! I just assumed that was the case from hearing his word of Brandon’s. Loving your videos btw!
I'm the forever DM for two different groups of D&D players. I've placed Nightblood in every campaign I've ever DMed, sometimes playing a pivotal role, sometimes as a temptation or a trap for the players, and sometimes as background scenery.
It was used as a trap by the Demonlord of Ashmouth in Innistrahd, to protect his horde of soul coins. It was held by Mab and given to one of my players to enable them to kill Davy Jones (Dresdenverse Wild West campaign), Nicodemus Arcleone later had it stashed in a golf bag several hundred years later in a cyberpunk Dresdenverse campaign), and most recently my players discovered it in the Amber Temple in Curse of Strahd, where the wizard picked it up and nearly killed himself before he made a wisdom save.
I've been working on the stats of the sword for a while for D&D, but essentially it allows someone with a lot of spell slots (which is investiture in the D&D universe) to become a sort of dark Paladin. But it's not particularly good in the hands of your average fighter or barbarian (in fact they are likely to die if they try to wield it). Really, it is an NPC character in its own right.
We are spoilt for you videos lately! Love seeing your older opening, honestly. Thank you very much for your hard work.
So, NIghtblood has fascinated me for a while. Sanderson can do a lot with him, and that makes theory crafting a lot harder. As one of the few examples of a completely "artificial" intelligence, and caries many implications for computer-based AI and how they can interact with investiture, though that makes sense, seeing as objects have thoughts in the Cosmere.
One Nightblood-related theory I once saw on reddit that has stuck in my mind (even then I don't completely subscribe to it) is that since Nightblood's command is to "Destroy Evil", and he absorbs (and figuratively eats) investiture, then it logically progresses that investiture is evil. The implications of this intrigue me, though the theorizer then went on to argue that this means the ending of the Cosmere will be non-Shards vs Shards (which I very much dislike, as I think it will be people vs people).
The counter-argument for this is the fact that "Evil" is subjective in nature, with very few objective elements that make up it's set. Which means that some being, force or individual considers investiture to be evil. This is even more interesting, in my opinion. But I agree with Khriss when see says that all manifestations of investiture are neutral (Ars Arcanum of MB Era 2), and it's suggested that she knows things even Hoid doesn't.
I have one massive question. Where does the investiture go? If Nightblood can be satiated, that suggests that they store the investiture. But if they get hungry again, then what happens to the investiture. Investiture cannot be made or destroyed, so is something collecting it for some other plan. If I was to guess anyone, I'd guess Edgli (Endowment), seeing as she definitely had a hand in making it (seeing as it was Returned who made it, and she decides who Returns and why). I've wondered for a while what she's scheming, and what her machinations are leading towards. After all, Vasher still hasn't completed his purpose.
I wonder if Nightblood will eventually go to Threnody. After all, there is a force, being or individual there called "The Evil". Maybe that was what he was made to combat.
Ooh that is interesting about the intention of evil taking a certain entity's view on investiture.
One thing I'd add to that is Nightblood was made on Endowment's world, and we know she was one of the few shards to try and remain isolated. Perhaps she knows something about investiture that causes her to deem it evil.(Or at least any physical manifestation of it) (Maybe the reason they agreed to shatter Adonalsium?)
Ok maybe reading too much into it at the end but still an interesting thought.
turned into breaths is what happens with the investiture
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Fantastic as always! I can't emphasis enough how much I appreciate the quality, and additional entertainment value you throw in, of these Cosmere videos you put out.
Thank you so much! That means a ton. Glad you enjoy 😁
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another amazing video!! cant wait for more night blood stuff in stormlight 5
Oh my gosh, stormlight 5 is gonna be crazy!!!!
Any theories you have as to what's going to happen?
Great video!
Appreciate it! Glad you enjoyed
Since night blood devoured as much investiture as it could from the Odium shard, does that mean Odium is permanently weakened? I'm wondering how similar this is to how Preservations power seemed permanently weakened after he gave free will to humanity on Scadrial.
Great video. I have been working on a semi functional model of NightBlood. Have some CAD files ready, and will be talking with someone at my local machine shop soon to see what they have to say
Show it off when it's complete! Can't wait to see it
And thank you 😁
@@LoreoftheWorlds Probably going to end up quite an expensive project, but should be getting the plan fully fleshed out soon. CNC two halves, weld them together, grind down the seam, get some kind of smoke emitter inside the hilt
I think Dalinar could potentially ascend to reform Honor. Having to fight Odium’s champion is daunting and could potentially be too much. Another exciting, albeit unlikely, possibility is that Navani could also ascend to become Cultivation. Cultivation has shown herself to be cunning and played the long game by granting Taravangian capacity to prepare him to ascend to Odium. She may not be evil, necessarily, but could have more ill intent than we can see at this point. Taravangian will undoubtedly attempt to shatter Cultivation, leaving the shards power in need of a new vessel. The only reason I believe Navani could potentially ascend is because that would give her and Dalinar the ability to stay together through the tragedy of his own ascension. (Granted, it could just be a tragic love story.) They would perhaps be able to unite the two shards into one as we’ve seen with the ascension of Sazed to become Harmony (Preservation and Ruin). More and more shards could be finding their compliment, resulting in the slow reconstruction of Adonalsium. It could be a force too great to remain permanently shattered by humans and, to a being to which time means nothing, could take millennia to reassemble itself.
I thought Brandon stated that the honour blade could be repaired the same way as a shard plate?
Found this, looks like you are correct!
wob.coppermind.net/events/479/#e15248
@@LoreoftheWorlds thank you for finding it! Thought I remembered something like that! Am curious if just entering the perpendicularity would have fixed the honour blade then? Or is intent required?
So my theory is a doozy.
Nightblood was made by Shashara with the Command Destroy Evil. The Five Scholars were trying to duplicate Shardblade not knowing that they were actually Spren, spren formed around Ideals. If we compare Nightblood's Command to Radiant Ideals it highly correlates with what we know of the Fifth Ideal from the Skybreakers, a definite unchanging statement. The issue is Skybreakers and all the other Orders have 3 other Ideals plus the Words of Radiance as a foundation for that 5th Ideal. The Five Scholars unknowingly made a spren with a Command with the equivalence of a 5th level Ideal.
Next, we know from Warbreaker that Vasher killed Shashara with Nightblood. This means the keyed Breaths used to Awaken Nightblood are locked within Nightblood. Or are they?!? Nightblood Destroys Evil but let's say it can't Destroy a Returned's Breath especially if that Returned was its Awakener. I think Endowment knew this would happen and that secretly Nightblood contains a sliver of Shashara's Identity to Command itself.
Finally after all this Investure that Nightblood has consumed, I think they may get a body in the Cognitive Realm. I know we see Azure's Awakened Sword in the Shadesmar just as a sword, but if there ever was a time, I think eating a perpendicularity and part of a god means we could see a "new" character, Nightblood, galavanting around the Shadesmar.
This is suuuuuuuper interesting! I'd love to see what a cognitive representation of Nightblood looks like. He was modeled after the shardblades after all, which are just spren in a physical form. Huh. I will be thinking about this theory a lot for sure.
Ishar got humbled into pant shitting fear talking shit to Szeth 🤣
These vidoes are so great! They help me understand what is going on between books so well.
Great to hear!
I have many more to come 😁
It is my belief that the word “orthogonality” instead of the word 12:22 ”perpendicular “. Orthogonality is just perpendicular in multidimensional systems.
"Perpendicularity" is the in-universe term for what you're referring to 😁
Keep up the content.. i wonder if nightblood will be “full” for part of book 5; essentially unable to consume more investiture.
Love nightblood
Link to original video in description would be handy for those who receive this as a recommendation rather than following you.
where did u get all the awesome pictures for the video?
Most of the pictures are fan art, and all of the creators of those are credited at the end of the video. Some images are official depictions, which can be found in the end pages of the books. And the rest was rendered by me in blender. Let me know if you need any specific links and I'll look them up for you
Wait I missed it. Does nightblood have a limit to how much it can destroy/eat?
It's Awakened with the Breath of Dawnshard?
Wonder if consuming enough Investiture causes nightblood to evolve like keeping memorys etc
I definitely wonder the same thing. Maybe it uses the investiture to change itself in interesting new ways.
Destroy desTROY DESTROOOOY!!!!
I wonder if Nightblood will end up killing more vessels eventually. It would be cool to see it on more planets and at this point its fully cemented itself as something of cosmere wide significance.
Who do you think it will take down next?
@@LoreoftheWorlds well my initial thought was Todium, but I doubt that Sanderson would use the same method on the same shard twice. It’s in Roshar right now so him and Cultivation are the most likely suspects. Outside of that, I think it would be cool to see it show up in more series. The most likely would be Mistborn, being another core series, which would put Harmony at risk which I REALLY don’t want to happen, but it would be an interesting side story. Honestly though? Probably Bavadin or some of her avatars. She’s kind of a subtle character in her part of the story, but she does seem to be set up as a potential antagonist, and her avatars pop up everywhere so it’s not too much of a stretch to assume that at some point one of them might be attacked by Nightblood
thank you
Do you think Nightblood would be changed by sucking up investiture from both Honor and Odium? I guess the question is whether the intent of the investiture was fixed at the moment Nightblood was created or whether it can be changed from interacting with other shards....
Either way, it's one of the most powerful objects in the Cosmere. It's just a normal sword that's been Awakened an unreasonable amount of Breath, and given the very vague command to destroy evil. I wouldn't be surprised if either Endowment played a part in Nightblood's existence, or Shashara got a hold of a Dawnshard somehow.
Just realized szeth doesn't have nightblood right now
I think I could tell that Brandon was getting sick of writing in Roshar as the book went on. Part 1 was the best part of any Cosmere book, imo. RoW was my least favorite book, though.
The 3 dudes in a room scene especially was just not as hashed out or clear as it could have been I think. It just became confusing tbh. Nightblood is terrifying and I have more questions than I do answers right now.
I kind of get that impression too. I hope he does it big in book 5, then takes a much deserved break from roshar for a while, as much as I want more books set there. Id rather him take a long break and WANT to return than the opposite.
Any idea what his announcement will be tomorrow?
@@Jon_Browne gahhhhh I just saw this right now!!!!
So stoked!
So I was right, he was burned out..... In 2019 lol
Now he's over it and with 5 new books? That's insane!!!