This Dark vs MaxPax Finals is AMAZING! StarCraft 2

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  • Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
  • StarCraft 2 Tournament - Dark vs MaxPax - ESL SC2 Cup Finals - Protoss vs Zerg - Dark and Maxpax break out completely different styles in this Protoss vs Zerg rollercoaster finals!
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Комментарии • 153

  • @sergej06
    @sergej06 5 месяцев назад +169

    "That which doesn't kill you leaves you in a fragile and potentially crippled state that makes you intensely vulnerable to being killed much more easily when ripped apart by zerglings" - an old saying

    • @nmgaro2156
      @nmgaro2156 5 месяцев назад +7

      Last game could apply for match of the year(so far), and this easily could be a candidate for best quote of the year

    • @rcraces1
      @rcraces1 5 месяцев назад +1

      😂😂😂

    • @SteelValyrian
      @SteelValyrian 5 месяцев назад +3

      It is known

    • @BigLeafyTree
      @BigLeafyTree 5 месяцев назад +5

      -Julius Caesar

    • @manhunter-hv6gm
      @manhunter-hv6gm 5 месяцев назад +2

      It's an old saying but it checks out😁

  • @mcmarkmarkson7115
    @mcmarkmarkson7115 5 месяцев назад +51

    Man love to see protoss do well against such a strong zerg player. Great battles, could have easily gone either way as even small things made such a huge impact.

    • @villz1267
      @villz1267 5 месяцев назад

      Maphackers can't play on LAN for a reason

    • @SteelValyrian
      @SteelValyrian 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@villz1267 Proof it

    • @villz1267
      @villz1267 5 месяцев назад

      @@SteelValyrian Things you will never see : Maxpaxxx playing a game with a webcam on his setup so you can see his screens

    • @SteelValyrian
      @SteelValyrian 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@villz1267 Yes I know. Doesn't mean he's cheating.

    • @villz1267
      @villz1267 5 месяцев назад

      @@SteelValyrian You are right, where there is smoke doesn't mean there is always fire, however majority of the time there is a direction correlation ....

  • @hivetech4903
    @hivetech4903 5 месяцев назад +15

    15:42 MaxPax was shook... shoots his own shield battery 🌀💥😂

  • @CABALlc1
    @CABALlc1 5 месяцев назад +39

    That hold by MaxPax in game 4 was just insane....

  • @screes620
    @screes620 5 месяцев назад +8

    So glad to see high tier protoss finally using Motherships. The offensive recall is such a powerful tool.

    • @robert-asdf
      @robert-asdf 5 месяцев назад +1

      you mean it's actually good for something other than being yanked by vipers?! it can win protoss a final. we know what dark, serral, and richard bring but MAN is it a breathe of fresh air seeing protoss win ANY final!

    • @elerushielerushi9180
      @elerushielerushi9180 5 месяцев назад

      It was always been a powerful tool even before patch 5.0.12. The previous patch size of Mass Recall and 200 energy for Double Mass Recall was very good. Sadly rarely anyone use it. I could be wrong though.

  • @JarvisValko
    @JarvisValko 5 месяцев назад +8

    AMAZING is pure understatement for this match. What a great series. What a great casting. Thank you Winter!

  • @Kesvalk
    @Kesvalk 5 месяцев назад +2

    Charlie was the real MVP, saw 3 minutes of play, knew exactly everything would play out and left so he could be his own man.

  • @Daniel-rd6st
    @Daniel-rd6st 5 месяцев назад +3

    18:20 That overcharge is really the MVP here, that Immortal just wont die 🙂

    • @leinis80
      @leinis80 5 месяцев назад

      nice catch

  • @WolfgangGaming-xq5rm
    @WolfgangGaming-xq5rm 5 месяцев назад +12

    I see Maxpax, I click. I see Hero, I cringe, but still probably click..

  • @curtisbrown2281
    @curtisbrown2281 5 месяцев назад +4

    Wow Maxpax made protoss look insanely strong in game 5. Recall wizard.

    • @Ulti_H
      @Ulti_H 5 месяцев назад

      fr the recalls were fantastic

  • @MultiChrisjb
    @MultiChrisjb 5 месяцев назад +4

    1:00:18 "never send a zealot to do a stalkers job"

  • @ninjabreadman22
    @ninjabreadman22 5 месяцев назад +25

    Every pro zerg's playstyle can be described as "Nah I'd win."

    • @adoi8467
      @adoi8467 5 месяцев назад +2

      Through heaven and earth, he alone is the GOATED one

    • @yarikyaryi
      @yarikyaryi 5 месяцев назад +8

      Cause zerg is op race that has advantage at literally everything. Best scouting, earliest starting units, best economy, cheap upgrades, fastest maxing out, lurkers countring any ground army, corruptors countring any air army, even if you lose your limit you can max out it in literally seconds. No wonder there are so many zergs among top pro players.
      Bugs, roaches and dogs dominate humans and aliens, nice design. Big fly can pull mothership with its tongue, cool.😂😂😂

    • @ninjabreadman22
      @ninjabreadman22 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@yarikyaryi Glad someone else agrees Zerg are imbalanced. Terran and Protoss need some buffs to deal with the insane zerg scouting and mobility.

    • @cavemantero
      @cavemantero 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@ninjabreadman22 they just nerfed tvz and tvp and buffed zerg again...we know who is running the show and has been for years

    • @ironmonkey1512
      @ironmonkey1512 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@yarikyaryiZerg is pretty weak in the air

  • @at5598
    @at5598 5 месяцев назад +1

    Love to see the toss win. Crazy decisions and almost play style swap from both players

  • @ThueJanusKristensen
    @ThueJanusKristensen 5 месяцев назад +20

    "There is like a 50-50 shot this is game of the year - at least for this week"
    LOL - dig at Lowko? :)

    • @kathorsees
      @kathorsees 5 месяцев назад +2

      Winter does the same, he has a whole playlist for "games of the year". I think it's just a necessary evil, a clickbait sacrifice to our sombre algorithmic overlords.

  • @diabolo_twitch8920
    @diabolo_twitch8920 5 месяцев назад +2

    I just LOVE the memes shown between the games 🤩

  • @christopherscott6383
    @christopherscott6383 5 месяцев назад +4

    Oh....Snap!! Winter Casting SC2.. Here for it!

  • @grahamgaming3
    @grahamgaming3 5 месяцев назад +2

    Dude maxpax was clearing trying to make dark confident the first two games just so just to grow his actual style off.

  • @cathulionetharn5139
    @cathulionetharn5139 5 месяцев назад +6

    Thank You
    Om nom nom

  • @colinfraser7150
    @colinfraser7150 5 месяцев назад +1

    I love the two drone joke has kept going.

  • @Ulti_H
    @Ulti_H 5 месяцев назад +6

    SIR RICHARD THE FLOCK MANAGER 🙏🙏🙏

  • @zachlong5427
    @zachlong5427 5 месяцев назад +3

    Hello all!
    So, I'm not even a month into watching Starcraft casts, and one of the things that I keep finding discussed about Protoss is the Warpgate/Gateway distinction. Why aren't Gateways used? And, why are the two things so...controversial, it seems, about the meta around Protoss. It is build speed, resources, or some kind of Jank that happens at different levels of play?
    RSVP!

    • @ChingooOK
      @ChingooOK 5 месяцев назад +5

      warpgates let you remax your units quicker, at any location where you have power field. this gives you more flexibility to respond to or launch counterattacks after a big engagement/skirmish.
      uThermal has a series on trying to get to grandmasters with gateway though, its pretty entertaining/insightful

    • @zachlong5427
      @zachlong5427 5 месяцев назад +1

      Okay. Is it like a "sidegrade" in intent but is de facto an "upgrade"? Does it cost more resource to warp units compared to normal production

    • @Forgotyournapkins
      @Forgotyournapkins 5 месяцев назад

      It’s a cheap upgrade that you always get as Protoss early on in the game (some rare build orders you might not, typically air). Really the only purpose of Gateways is to balance the beginning of games where insta warpgate would create too much of an advantage in the under 2:00 min-ish portion of the game

    • @SteelValyrian
      @SteelValyrian 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@zachlong5427 Being able to warp in units on the fly wherever you have pylon power is huuuuge. For a while it was all Protoss had almost, and they are still called a "gimmicky" race. Often times it is good strategy to not max out your whole supply- keep it around 170 or so and you can warp in very deadly attacks from unexpected flanks and onto vulnerable bases. Even the main base can be a flank. Maxpax almost lost the last game with a bad flank into the main using his mothership. There are many examples to see of him using his prism in general of course for awesome counters. Just watch the where/when he attacks. The game has changed a lot over the years, Toss being able to warp in and recall has been refined over years of balance and players discovering the mechanic's depth.
      You can use standard gateways. They are fine and reliable production, just ask the Terran and Florencio =P

    • @bigprank3964
      @bigprank3964 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@zachlong5427 Warpgate is an upgrade and not a sidegrade. Warpgates are considered to be better than Gateways, always, in every situation. It does cost the same amount of resources to warp in units with Warpgates and to produce them normally in Gateways

  • @lightdx7008
    @lightdx7008 5 месяцев назад +1

    "There is like a 50-50 shot this is game of the year... at least for this week" xDD

  • @pleasespammesomemore4436
    @pleasespammesomemore4436 5 месяцев назад +2

    what a great series. action packed right up till the end. couldve gone either way too.

  • @taesonslane2513
    @taesonslane2513 5 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the cast WinterStarcraft

  • @Daniel-rd6st
    @Daniel-rd6st 5 месяцев назад +1

    I love how one HERO Zealot almost decided the whole series 😄

    • @Daniel-yy3ty
      @Daniel-yy3ty 5 месяцев назад +1

      and just after he praised him for using a stalker in his wall 🤣

  • @danielhearndon1908
    @danielhearndon1908 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great job by MaxPax. He massively outplayed Dark in the final match and still barely won. Look at his army comp vs Dark's Ling, Hydra, Lurker.

  • @jeronimosuarez7957
    @jeronimosuarez7957 5 месяцев назад

    3:31 intensely vulnerable 😂😂

  • @Levm17
    @Levm17 5 месяцев назад

    Anyone else noticed maxpax reorder the damaged oracle on the outside when confronting the enemy bases once more? Fantastic

    • @cosmostumpf4135
      @cosmostumpf4135 5 месяцев назад +2

      Dark targeted the damaged one with the spore anyway- those tiniest of things in early game are what makes these players the top of the top.

  • @Mosquitor69
    @Mosquitor69 5 месяцев назад

    Thank You. Love your style. Now I'll go enjoy this match.

  • @dragoscc1163
    @dragoscc1163 5 месяцев назад +1

    That was beautiful !

  • @IsThisHandleTaken
    @IsThisHandleTaken 5 месяцев назад

    Love to see a Protoss win. Still love Dark, his playstyle is super entertaining and he's creative af. But Protoss just seems so disadvantaged right now, I gotta cheer for the underdog

  • @warlocksnevereverdie
    @warlocksnevereverdie 5 месяцев назад

    Man this series was bonkers

  • @JG-ti7id
    @JG-ti7id 5 месяцев назад +1

    liking and subscribing IS still free for now... that last game was WOW! winter, asalwaystyforyourhardworkanddedication!!! glhf fam

  • @Matthew-cc4xt
    @Matthew-cc4xt 5 месяцев назад +2

    Watched Dark lose 2 series in a row. Not what I came here for.

  • @benismann
    @benismann 5 месяцев назад

    11:40
    Before this point i doubted if the workers lost popup (on the left) didnt work, since so many adepts tried to harass them, but nope, it works. Dark just doesnt lose drones

  • @xSubotaix
    @xSubotaix 5 месяцев назад

    they should play all 3 races, best of 5

  • @Middieno22
    @Middieno22 5 месяцев назад

    I've known about winterstarcraft for years, but I just started watching him alot recently. I think artosis + tasteless together cant be beat, but I think winter is better than either of them individually, possibly the best solo caster in the genre. My two cents.

  • @binslagala
    @binslagala 5 месяцев назад

    A conspicuously good video!

  • @Minstrel1
    @Minstrel1 5 месяцев назад

    "Hold the line ladies!"

  • @danywd40
    @danywd40 5 месяцев назад

    What a game. By the way, a noob question. Zergs got nidus, protos got mother ship recall and base recall besides the gateways and war prism. Terrans have mules and BC tactical jump?

  • @tamanousJP
    @tamanousJP 5 месяцев назад +2

    Cast Dark vs Stats from GSL next!!!

  • @TheJohtaja
    @TheJohtaja 5 месяцев назад

    9:16 After win you gotta add terstarcraft though! Doesn't work otherwise.

  • @hall799
    @hall799 5 месяцев назад

    @24:50 if he would have yelled "MY LARVA!!!!" or something like that.

  • @lukebracken
    @lukebracken 5 месяцев назад

    are you switching to storm gate or one of the newer RTS games? not pressuring just wondering what the long-term plans are, if there are any. no biggie.
    good luck.

  • @freshsmilely
    @freshsmilely 5 месяцев назад

    dark logic: "they cant kill drones if you dont have any drones"

  • @ManDuderGuy
    @ManDuderGuy 5 месяцев назад +1

    MOST PROFESSIONAL

  • @ArmstrongAlley
    @ArmstrongAlley 5 месяцев назад +2

    If YOU put that on a mug I'll buy it

    • @fr3lance91
      @fr3lance91 5 месяцев назад +1

      Gonna be a big mug if you want it legible. 😅

  • @Mikeypequeno
    @Mikeypequeno 5 месяцев назад +1

    great games and great commentary as always!

  • @bluelemon2805
    @bluelemon2805 5 месяцев назад +1

    GO MAXPAX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @Jeed92
    @Jeed92 5 месяцев назад

    8:50 xDDDD

  • @adoi8467
    @adoi8467 5 месяцев назад +1

    Are you a pro player because you are the GOAT, or are you the GOAT because you are a pro player?

  • @JeanLucPicard85
    @JeanLucPicard85 5 месяцев назад

    So nice to see good mothership use.

  • @matrion15
    @matrion15 5 месяцев назад

    Dark can go ... himself with his disrespectful "g"s after every loss

  • @portee9113
    @portee9113 5 месяцев назад

    Wow Dark is ruthless. The man is a killer.

    • @tertozer3543
      @tertozer3543 5 месяцев назад

      Zerg is just omega giga broken since HotS. Surely he is an insane player, but so is MaxPax.

  • @YugoAfluana
    @YugoAfluana 5 месяцев назад

    I believe Dark can be as effecient and effective Serral, but he choose Violent.

  • @jayswizzle57
    @jayswizzle57 5 месяцев назад +17

    70 likes on this comment and I’ll comment on another video… and I’ll probably do it anyways. JIMMY!!!

  • @neojack333
    @neojack333 5 месяцев назад

    winning with 0 workers left ? wow that last game was something !

  • @cjmahar7595
    @cjmahar7595 5 месяцев назад +1

    How long did it take you to come up with today transition to likes and subscribes? so clever!

  • @AZ3rgling
    @AZ3rgling 5 месяцев назад

    Man im gonna miss watching Dark play

  • @JM-rl6bq
    @JM-rl6bq 5 месяцев назад

    It would be cool if Maxpax played in live tohrnaments like to see him at Katowice or sometbing.

  • @ProgramasVBnet
    @ProgramasVBnet 5 месяцев назад

    Que gran partida, como ha remontado super MaxPax. Saludetes

  • @gregoryhilton5315
    @gregoryhilton5315 5 месяцев назад

    this is just dark vs dark on a different monitor isn't it

  • @JamesLSY
    @JamesLSY 5 месяцев назад

    Have not seen Protoss win comfortably ever. Is the balance that bad?

  • @soju69jinro
    @soju69jinro 5 месяцев назад

    finally a finals without Serral, now it's worth watching.

  • @user-vh9rk8xw1i
    @user-vh9rk8xw1i 5 месяцев назад +1

    Like and comment before watching...i trust you Winter!

  • @paulhamtorlia3039
    @paulhamtorlia3039 5 месяцев назад

    Europe's Top Protoss vs Korea's Top Zerg

  • @ursidae1651
    @ursidae1651 5 месяцев назад

    I wonder why players don't use unit skins in tournaments.. is it prohabited? Or do they just not want to play with them? It'd make the games just a little bit more interesting...

  • @jakekielty1
    @jakekielty1 5 месяцев назад

    Miss this game. Wow some people are AI when it comes to combat. Awesome that the computer is the inferior being

  • @matiastikvic7989
    @matiastikvic7989 5 месяцев назад +3

    I swear to god
    You we're annoying me a Lot when i started to watch your Videos, but you have grown on me so much that i Like every single Video before you "beg" for Likes

  • @Manwu5
    @Manwu5 5 месяцев назад

    Amazing games....Nothing better than a roasted zerg.

  • @joshgulrud
    @joshgulrud 5 месяцев назад

    Winter you gotta give us a Queen tier list for April 1(?). You gotta. Brenda Karen Susan ... ?????

  • @TowerSavant
    @TowerSavant 5 месяцев назад

    In a week. Nice.

  • @StarryTemplar
    @StarryTemplar 5 месяцев назад

    whos Idea to give Lurker Huge AOE damage and Huge Range ?? LOL

  • @Gogohobbytv
    @Gogohobbytv 5 месяцев назад

    Amazing series. Damn, I hate Swarm Hosts so much. Disgustingly free kills units.

  • @Jorg05111980
    @Jorg05111980 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks, but this is too zoomed in for my liking...

  • @Avsoy
    @Avsoy 5 месяцев назад +3

    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

    • @marinav3905
      @marinav3905 5 месяцев назад +1

      Bob the Chargelot, is that you?

  • @tilmanvogel2387
    @tilmanvogel2387 5 месяцев назад +1

    Epic

  • @freddyorellana2058
    @freddyorellana2058 5 месяцев назад

    En otra pongan a Serral

  • @metalevel7739
    @metalevel7739 5 месяцев назад

    protoss wins, this is my tarot card reading for whether or not it will be a good day

  • @gewinnste
    @gewinnste 5 месяцев назад

    Dark's single-g on game 4 and 5. Omg what a c-word. The loss was completely his fault, MaxPax pulled off an impossible hold in game 4 and just outplayed him in game 5.

  • @kevincline2589
    @kevincline2589 5 месяцев назад

    Whyyyyyy did you let me see MaxPax's picture? Hadn't seen it before and always imagined a little nerd like Clem. So not as big a fan anymore.

  • @mauromattei9779
    @mauromattei9779 5 месяцев назад

    Really? :)

  • @geoffrichardson2728
    @geoffrichardson2728 5 месяцев назад

    I find as soon as I like and subscribe....I totally lose interest in the starcraft content.
    I'm just watching to help winter meet his daily increasing like quota now.

  • @Cookie0fPower
    @Cookie0fPower 5 месяцев назад

    Comment

  • @mathiahjaquish8564
    @mathiahjaquish8564 4 месяца назад

    I appreciate your attempts. These are great games. But you sir are not a caster.

  • @phantomxofxwarx9996
    @phantomxofxwarx9996 4 месяца назад

    You ever learn to be quiet? Like you have the exact same intro speech all the time. Change it up

  • @sir2854
    @sir2854 4 месяца назад

    MUUUHAHAHAHA.....all those worthless zerg players who depended on the imbalances are now helpless.

  • @mrgotohell111111
    @mrgotohell111111 5 месяцев назад

    gang

  • @craigbs3
    @craigbs3 5 месяцев назад

    Dark is a gold digger 😂😂😂😂

  • @deeepinsomnia
    @deeepinsomnia 5 месяцев назад

    Ultras still bad

  • @Clickmoi
    @Clickmoi 5 месяцев назад

    " Starcraft players looking at any other games on the planet " meme...
    Me : then AoE2:DE players must be looking them from the clouds with the gods ^^.