I remember when she first did this. And half the people attacked her because they were confused. Never attack what u dont understand. Youll later feel stupid.
@@jacksonfurlong3757 what do you mean? Sidereal astrology falls apart when you have a late degree rising sign in western because it gives you the predictions of the sign after you
That’s because modern tropical astrology gets many things wrong about tropical astrology but if you research traditional tropical astrology which is around as ancient as Vedic then you see what I mean. Also Vedic isn’t the same thing as sidereal. It uses nakshatras very differently and your signs generally stay the same. It is simply calculated without a birth time due to there not being access to clocks and sundials in ancient India during that time. Sidereal is deep but so is traditional tropical astrology and they both give the same answers and each has certain details you only find in one and that’s what makes all 3 great and also Chinese astrology
@@GiveonKing I never said Vedic was the same as tropical. I was deeply into traditional and modern tropical before I discovered Vedic/sidereal. I know how it works. Also you do need a birth time for an accurate Vedic chart. I’m sticking to Vedic.
@@srich2827 I was saying that Vedic isn’t the same as sidereal. You weren’t deep into traditional astrology at all. You were deep into modern tropical astrology. Vedic charts don’t use birth times, ancient Indians didn’t have clocks or sundials, they calculated your chart in person and in India a lot of them do charts the traditional way and use nakshatras differently. Sidereal astrologers ignore that and try to pass their more modern form of as astrology as ancient. It’s a weird tactic that is often used in mainstream media to glamorize things to make it more attractive yet valid
What I’ve found is sidereal and tropical say the same things but in different ways. For example - As a scorpio, most of the libran energy you described (funny, travel, articulation, charisma, etc) attributes to the sag rising in my tropical which also aligns with how you described the sidereal sag. In my sidereal chart, I’m also a Scorpio rising, so it never changed just turned the dial, looked through a different lens (and essentially realized the same thing). As a tropical sag rising, it’s also said that they’re likely tall athletic (I’m 6’ and played basketball through college lol). Even when sidereal describes my future spouse, it describes the same traits, physical appearance and where I’d likely meet him as it does in my tropical chart. For clarity - this (rather unnecessarily long) analysis came directly from my tropical Virgo moon😂
Exactly basically 27 degrees of Leo in western and 0 degrees Leo in sidereal is the same thing the charts are made to tell you something and how you interpret it is on you
Bruh your level of understanding astrology is at "sag people are 6 Feet athletes" And you think you can understand what you're talking about. I'd say spend 5 years learning astrology "the serious way" Then even consider thinking about this and about the sidereal yeah that's more accurate and although both aren't exactly accurate but western is way far off than what's actually working. Hope you find truths to the questions you seek🙏🏼 Har Har Mahadev
I’m so so happy you made this video. I’m tired of people holding on to tropical astrology especially when it comes to my chart. I’ve never resonated with being a Leo. I knew something was wrong. I’ve been studying sidereal astrology for 2/3 years now and the accuracy is amazing.
Vedic astrology isn’t the same as sidereal by the way, Vedic didn’t have access to clicks and sundials so charts were calculated in person and nakshatras were used differently. Sidereal tries to make it self more similar to astronomy while simultaneously trying to get tropical astrology accuracy which it succeeds so they are all accurate. Modern tropical astrology though gets so much wrong
Sidereal rising sign means what you strive to be, rising in tropical is your instinctual personality and body. Sun sign is your soul in sidereal and your knowledge and conscious personality. Moon is your mind in sidereal but your emotions in tropical. also Decans and bounds exist in tropical while they use nakshatras in sidereal so it isn’t more accurate objectively. my experience proves it
My best friend is also tropical Leo --> sidereal Cancer and I am tropical Virgo --> sidereal Leo, and I do think that the Cancer traits fit him better and the Leo traits fit me better.
Tropical Libra, Sidereal Virgo here. Resonate a lot more with my sidereal Virgo, I’m a lot more reserved as opposed to being a ‘social butterfly’ like what Libras are supposedly known for. I’m practical and I love to be punctual, I absolutely hate when people are massively late. That’s like my biggest peeve. I’m also shy and do better talking to people one-on-one vs being in a group, so sometimes people are surprised that I’m actually easygoing although I’ve had people thing I’m very aloof and serious. Also the whole hands thing is so accurate - I draw a lot and I get very meticulous about it. Even with writing (which is my hobby). Although I’m not discounting my tropical placements at all, I can definitely see some Libran traits in me for sure but I honestly feel more like a Virgo sun than I do Libra sun.
For me My Tropical represents my core personality (which is why I resonate and connect to it the most) And who I am and my Sidreal is basically behind the scenes, my emotionality and the inner essence of the soul. My fire element is dominant in both with my air and earth is basically flip flopping in placements and my water energy having significantly different placements but still speaking on how I'm strongly in touch with my emotions and having strong intuition.
People love my talking voice always and can be persuasive for sure . A lot of my “things” got destroyed or thrown all away growing up and even in adult life that could be my pof in Scorpio though .
Both astrology systems have their importance. Think of sidereal as being the bigger picture. Many aspects of the highest level of divine counterpart polarization, ie. monadic feminine/masculine, are crystal clear, almost scientifically spot on viewed thru tropical astrology, where as in sidereal, the system shows the more blunt, masculine-like accurate difference in the vibrational nature of those dynamics. Tropical relates strongly to the earthly incarnation cycles, the physical, the inner most densities of the universal time matrix. I always felt that tropical is how society and my lineage is trying to shape me, but sidereal is who I truly am at the purest higher dimensional soul levels. I find using both, in their own way, is the best solution.
Pisces sun/Aquarius moon here... this is insanely accurate for me! I have always been highly rational and a big picture thinker. Emotional as well, but the logic always overrides the emotions. Constantly thinking about how I can improve the world. Definitely a late bloomer. Just turned 35 and feel like I'm just starting to hit my stride. Definitely have a unique look and energy that intrigues people. Not the best looking person in the world, but I ALWAYS draw attention. Especially from women. Have always thought I showed up more as an Aquarius in intimate relationships. Very aloof and need space.
That’s because you break down your chart from what you have learnt from modern tropical astrology not ancient Hellenistic whole sign system tropical astrology
It’s not. they say that because of its overlap to Vedic astrology which was used in ancient times and was developed alongside the same time with TRADITIONAL tropical astrology. except Vedic didn’t use sundials or clocks. They calculated your chart in person and used nakshatras and their mythology in a very different way meaning if you are an Aries in tropical then an Aries in Vedic. But sidereal and modern tropical astrologers wanted to start attaching their self to science so things started to get changed. The nakshatras are used differently and planet and house definitions are changed but they all give the same answers but tropical modern astrology is wrong in many ways
With that being said a lot of MODERN tropical astrology get information wrong eg the signs don’t rule any houses contrary to what they say, Pluto also doesn’t rule Scorpio(mars does), Uranus doesn’t rule Aquarius(Saturn does), also Sagittarius isn’t open minded, Leo’s aren’t attention seekers, Gemini’s are not two faced etc
I'm a Libra Rising, Aquarius Sun, and Sag Moon in tropical but a Virgo Rising, Capricorn Sun, and Scorpio Moon in Vedic. I have a Capricorn Stellium in both charts but in different houses. Crazy how astrology is.
I am a Gemini sun 7th house in the general term. But I do love perfume, collect perfumes, go to perfumes store just in the sake to smell, discover and improve my smells skill, smells others people perfumes😅, good food… I worked in a perfume shop for ten months I used to look everywhere in our storage to smells the other’s perfume testers that we didn’t sell anymore before I started there 🙈
WOW! Thank YOU so much for this video breakdown!! I tend to gravitate towards Tropical, but I like to learn about and understand Sidereal because it IS a part of me as well--however I wasn't always able to consolidate to two, rather just cancel them out, which in turn was disheartening. But now I'm able to understand even MORE how I am BOTH My Tropical AND Sidereal! So Thank You!! 🥰😇🤗
Well your sun sign means your soul in sidereal, but your knowledge and conscious personality in tropical. Moon sign is your mind in sidereal while moon sign is your thoughts/mood/enotion in tropical. Rising sign is your physical body, appearance and instinctual personality etc… Then there are also 27 nakshatras so you sharing the same sign in sidereal doesn’t mean you get similar or even the same descriptions. The signs are also partially defined differently
Both systems are valid. Folks, Stop says tropical is not accurate. Scorpio /Libra here, I see both systems playing out in my life one after the other in terms of the transits.
As you can tell I am VERY passionate about this topic. Think of how due to most people’s rising sign moving back when switching to SIDEREAL(like 92%). You notice in sidereal it gives 1st house definition to 2nd house because most people’s tropical 1st house become their second. once again I like many features of my sidereal eg some of my signs stay the same and I love most of my new house placements but then I can get same definitions from tropical eg dominant planet and mk planet or 7th house ruler aspects and dk planet nakshatra. Both the same but sidereal struggles with how welcoming it is in my opinion
delving into sidereal/vedic astrology was like opening a whole new world for me. it was so much accurate! i'm a tropical pisces sun, scorpio moon, gemini rising and aries venus, but in sidereal i'm a aqua sun, libra moon aand taurus rising, being ruled twice! by pisces venus. so i always felt a really huge pisces influence but it was just because it rules both my moon and rising! and im such a venusian as well. not to mention the nakshatras, they're incredibly accurate as well. i recommend claire nakti's channel to learn more about it.
If you follow traditional tropical astrologers you will see the same thing. Also Vedic isn’t the same as sidereal. In sidereal they calculate chart using birth time and try to replicate the actual positions of the zodiac in ASTRONOMY and use the nakshatras differently. In Vedic your chart is calculated in person without a birth time and the nakshatras are used very very differently. they are the same thing because they all give the same answer 😊
@ even western astrologers have used both. My point is this isn’t Vedic astrology. This is sidereal and modern tropical astology. Both very wrong combinations. Nakshatras are the sidereal zodiacs while Aries, taurus etc are the tropical zodiacs
@@GiveonKing Sorry you feel that way , but Vedic Astrologers uses both Sidereal and Nakshatras. If you told me you are a Taurus, than i would have said what kind of Taurus ? I 'm not talking Decans. There are 3 types of Taurus with 4 padas each. The padas goes into the Navamsa D9 chart.
@ are you okay? nakshatras ARE the sidereal zodiac signs. Stop replying me if you keep saying the same wrong information. This isn’t Vedic astrology. This is sidereal. Most “Vedic” you see on the internet is sidereal. I find it so odd that sidereal astrologers use tropical zodiacs as well. Nakshatras weren’t used for personalities at all in Vedic astrology. Also if you were a Taurus in western then you were a Taurus in Vedic. Vedic astrologers didn’t have access to subdials and clocks so they would calculate your chart in person
I’ve been told the sidereal chart is how you’re going to behave as the highest version of yourself (basically the most successful and authentic version of yourself)
You sun sign, rising sign and moon sign don’t even mean the same thing in sidereal vs tropical but it does in Vedic because Vedic astrologers didn’t calculate your chart the same way as tropical or sidereal astrologers
@@nochillwithme4821 astrology is not “vague” in any way shape or form. It’s an ancient study with rules. Modern astrology is vague. Traditional astrology isn’t. It covers many topics but it isn’t vague and if you genuinely believe that then this isn’t the study for you
As Taurus sidereal I can I guess see it now I always say I see with my hands I touch everything love smelling and feeling when I go to the store . I always fight the urge to eat with my hands as I feel I can taste the food better . A small bit of a hoarder in it’s hard for me to get rid of things especially clothing and I love singing so ya I guess using my voice and obviously love talking
@@oamahana but she didn’t explain the difference in sidereal signs. If you switch to sidereal you see that your sign is divided in nakshatras meaning if you are a Taurus in sidereal another sidereal Taurus will have a different definition. also if she is saying things like Sagittarius are known to be blunt because they are ruled by mars then what does that mean about tropical Scorpio who switched from being ruled from aggressive mars to peaceful Venus? How do you even change from that? she needed to specify the sepcifc nakshatras and clarify all systems are valid. this was my I stopped following her years ago. I just can’t deal with people not getting what astrology is
I am a sidereal Gemini lol 😂it’s funny because my mom always thought I was going to be born in June instead of July but that never happened but I do relate to being a Gemini also ♊️ 💕😂
wow......Late bloomer, and have always been awkward socially. being a sidereal aquarius definitely fits for me. and as far as seeing into the future lol.....yeah. all my life. even since an infant.
That’s because you are focused on MODERN tropical astrology. if you learn the real meaning of the signs, decans, planets and houses in original tropical astrology which is more ancient than sidereal then you know what you are saying is incorrect. Vedic and sidereal aren’t even the same
@@mikejames4910 why do people just say loud and wrong things?🙄. either types of astrology either Vedic, sidereal, tropical or Chinese are all accurate when used right. Eg a celebrity has their 7th house ruler of spouse conjunct the sun while in sidereal they have their dk planet in uttara ashadha nakshatra. Still the same thing because that is a sun ruled nakshatra. Or when someone still has a stellium in their chart of the same sign but in different planets. they all tell the same thing
@@Cory-zn5mq exactly and sidereal supporters confuse me because they say it’s the same as ancient Vedic astrology (it isn’t) but then I have seen some use to relatively discovered new astronomy zodiac sign(?¿)
Because modern tropical astrology doesn’t get the signs descriptions right but traditional tropical does. Also the signs don’t mean and planets and houses often differ from tropical to sidereal. They aren’t the same. They are different but co exist and I get what she is trying to do but it isn’t helpful to the astrology community
Vedic and sidereal are actually not the same. In sidereal the definitions are different and they use nakshatras differently to create a more waffle to get the same answer as a lot of TRADITIONAL tropical astrologers. in sidereal the signs, planets and the houses have different definitions. also it tends to fall apart in a few places when talking about tropical astrology placements in late degrees
My Sun sign is seasonal Aquarius ♒ , but i am actually a Capricorn ♑. I am the real Sea Goat / Crocodile. Shravana Nakshatra - rules by the Moon. Shravana Nakshatra elements is water. I am the real Sea Goat / Crocodile. I don't have say it, but my personality speaks for itself.
@@tigerfist1126 nope. You are an Aquarius sun, not even NASA knows the actual division of the stars in the sky. Sidereal is based off of a literal lie due to their need to force proximity to science so they can hopefully get a bigger audience and be close to science so astrology doesn’t get prosecuted like it did centuries ago by religious folks and science people. all those things you said would be found by the specific decan and bound of Aquarius you are. I don’t mind people following sidereal or Vedic or Chinese astrology but don’t portray the astrology you prefer as the real one because it isn’t and will never be. also your sun sign isn’t your personality. That’s your rising. Your sun sign is how you WANT to be seen (in most cases) and expresses itself in the house it’s in and rules
This is confusing because what about the people whose placements stay the same like I do? also a Scorpio in sidereal are still divided by nakshatras in sidereal and each planet means its specific thing so this is general no? Also your 12th house placements describe themes of your personality in traditional tropical no? So either way sidereal or tropical you relate. Also most people’s rising sign in tropical change to their second house hence sidereal astrologers also say 2nd house is your face, lips etc. however I do like their use of nakshatras compared to Vedic astrologers and I love most of my new house placements. I am a late degree Gemini in tropical so I am still a Gemini rising but my tropical transit predictions are more accurate but both chart I resonate with
Is the reference in this video for the rising or sun signs or both in this video? I ask because I'm a taurus rising, scorpio sun in one and an Aries rising, Libra sun in the other.
Sidereal and Vedic astrology aren’t the same thing. Vedic is more ancient and due to not having access to sundials or clocks during that time Vedic astrologers could calculate your chart in person while looking at you and getting to know you. And used their own mythology and used nakshatras VERY differently than sidereal. sidereal is the one that started using time and also created its own definitions of each sign and used nakshatras in a different way to just get the same answers as Ancient tropical astrolohy. all 3 are accurate but the new modern astrology isnt accurate
@@shomazima not true, nakshatras in Vedic weren’t used the same neither were the charts calculated the same way. Sidereal astrologers use the overlaps with Vedic to make their astrology seem like the original when it isn’t as ancient as traditional tropical astrology or Vedic astrology but it is still accurate.
What about sidereal Virgos who aren’t massage therapist? there are multiple things in a person’s tropical or sidereal chart that would lead to that profession
Did you sidereal say ophuichus ? If so then it makes me wonder how ancient sidereal astrology is compared to actual Vedic astrology that calculates your chart with no birth time but instead by studying you meaning your chart stays the same in Vedic as well
Sidereal isn’t even the same thing as Vedic. Vedic astrologers didn’t have access to sundials or clocks so they calculated your birth chart in person and used nakshatras very differently. So your sign stays the same but sidereal in its attempt to match science astronomy constellations completely changed the study to create more waffle to tell the same story. traditional astrology works very accurate for me as well as sidereal. I haven’t gone too deep into Vedic though but I have lightly researched Chinese astrology as well. but I would give slight edge to tropical astrology(not modern one though) because it is more ancient than sidereal and more easier (relatively) to get into
@@jacksonfurlong3757 WRONG, even NASA doesn’t know the equal division of signs in the sky. The belief that sidereal is accurate than western and Vedic is incorrect. Sidereal’s accuracy isl like 47% less than western
@@episode40 you don’t even know what Vedic actually means. I am sure you mean sidereal. Vedic uses nakshatras and the moon very differently. For example. The reason why the moon became very important in Vedic is because they had no access to sundials. sidereal uses western traditional AND modern (mostly modern western) astrology so it isn’t as reliable. You most likely thing Venus is exalted in the 12th house because you think Pisces rules the 12th house
@@episode40 you probably don’t even know what you even mean. Probably thing Vedic and sidereal are the same or Venus is exhalted in the 12th house cause “it’s the Pisces house”.
I remember when she first did this. And half the people attacked her because they were confused. Never attack what u dont understand. Youll later feel stupid.
But then each signs are divided into nakshatras in sidereal so they shouldn’t even have the same definitions in this video
Every. Damn. Time.
@@jacksonfurlong3757 what do you mean? Sidereal astrology falls apart when you have a late degree rising sign in western because it gives you the predictions of the sign after you
@@jacksonfurlong3757 you can find the same information in the both western and eastern charts
I watched a video of yours on sidereal a few years ago and I haven’t gone back to tropical since. Especially when I learned about nakshatras.
That’s because modern tropical astrology gets many things wrong about tropical astrology but if you research traditional tropical astrology which is around as ancient as Vedic then you see what I mean. Also Vedic isn’t the same thing as sidereal. It uses nakshatras very differently and your signs generally stay the same. It is simply calculated without a birth time due to there not being access to clocks and sundials in ancient India during that time. Sidereal is deep but so is traditional tropical astrology and they both give the same answers and each has certain details you only find in one and that’s what makes all 3 great and also Chinese astrology
@@GiveonKing I never said Vedic was the same as tropical. I was deeply into traditional and modern tropical before I discovered Vedic/sidereal. I know how it works. Also you do need a birth time for an accurate Vedic chart. I’m sticking to Vedic.
@@srich2827 I was saying that Vedic isn’t the same as sidereal. You weren’t deep into traditional astrology at all. You were deep into modern tropical astrology. Vedic charts don’t use birth times, ancient Indians didn’t have clocks or sundials, they calculated your chart in person and in India a lot of them do charts the traditional way and use nakshatras differently. Sidereal astrologers ignore that and try to pass their more modern form of as astrology as ancient. It’s a weird tactic that is often used in mainstream media to glamorize things to make it more attractive yet valid
@@srich2827 I edited previous comment because I made some mistakes
sidereal pisces I relate pisces rising still when I looked up my sidereal chart
What I’ve found is sidereal and tropical say the same things but in different ways. For example - As a scorpio, most of the libran energy you described (funny, travel, articulation, charisma, etc) attributes to the sag rising in my tropical which also aligns with how you described the sidereal sag. In my sidereal chart, I’m also a Scorpio rising, so it never changed just turned the dial, looked through a different lens (and essentially realized the same thing). As a tropical sag rising, it’s also said that they’re likely tall athletic (I’m 6’ and played basketball through college lol).
Even when sidereal describes my future spouse, it describes the same traits, physical appearance and where I’d likely meet him as it does in my tropical chart.
For clarity - this (rather unnecessarily long) analysis came directly from my tropical Virgo moon😂
Exactly basically 27 degrees of Leo in western and 0 degrees Leo in sidereal is the same thing the charts are made to tell you something and how you interpret it is on you
I’ve found the same!!!!
Bruh your level of understanding astrology is at "sag people are 6 Feet athletes" And you think you can understand what you're talking about. I'd say spend 5 years learning astrology "the serious way" Then even consider thinking about this and about the sidereal yeah that's more accurate and although both aren't exactly accurate but western is way far off than what's actually working. Hope you find truths to the questions you seek🙏🏼 Har Har Mahadev
Ok so who is the most accurate@@vishv_Indra
I’m so so happy you made this video. I’m tired of people holding on to tropical astrology especially when it comes to my chart. I’ve never resonated with being a Leo. I knew something was wrong. I’ve been studying sidereal astrology for 2/3 years now and the accuracy is amazing.
Vedic astrology isn’t the same as sidereal by the way, Vedic didn’t have access to clicks and sundials so charts were calculated in person and nakshatras were used differently. Sidereal tries to make it self more similar to astronomy while simultaneously trying to get tropical astrology accuracy which it succeeds so they are all accurate. Modern tropical astrology though gets so much wrong
Sidereal rising sign means what you strive to be, rising in tropical is your instinctual personality and body. Sun sign is your soul in sidereal and your knowledge and conscious personality. Moon is your mind in sidereal but your emotions in tropical. also Decans and bounds exist in tropical while they use nakshatras in sidereal so it isn’t more accurate objectively. my experience proves it
My best friend is also tropical Leo --> sidereal Cancer and I am tropical Virgo --> sidereal Leo, and I do think that the Cancer traits fit him better and the Leo traits fit me better.
Tropical Libra, Sidereal Virgo here. Resonate a lot more with my sidereal Virgo, I’m a lot more reserved as opposed to being a ‘social butterfly’ like what Libras are supposedly known for. I’m practical and I love to be punctual, I absolutely hate when people are massively late. That’s like my biggest peeve. I’m also shy and do better talking to people one-on-one vs being in a group, so sometimes people are surprised that I’m actually easygoing although I’ve had people thing I’m very aloof and serious. Also the whole hands thing is so accurate - I draw a lot and I get very meticulous about it. Even with writing (which is my hobby). Although I’m not discounting my tropical placements at all, I can definitely see some Libran traits in me for sure but I honestly feel more like a Virgo sun than I do Libra sun.
For me My Tropical represents my core personality (which is why I resonate and connect to it the most) And who I am and my Sidreal is basically behind the scenes, my emotionality and the inner essence of the soul. My fire element is dominant in both with my air and earth is basically flip flopping in placements and my water energy having significantly different placements but still speaking on how I'm strongly in touch with my emotions and having strong intuition.
I use both sidereal and Western i appreciate the part of fortune, Juno ect. The nakshatras have alot of accuracy i can relate to both leo and cancer
I love how you connected both tropical and sidereal! Thank you for this 💕
People love my talking voice always and can be persuasive for sure . A lot of my “things” got destroyed or thrown all away growing up and even in adult life that could be my pof in Scorpio though .
Both astrology systems have their importance. Think of sidereal as being the bigger picture. Many aspects of the highest level of divine counterpart polarization, ie. monadic feminine/masculine, are crystal clear, almost scientifically spot on viewed thru tropical astrology, where as in sidereal, the system shows the more blunt, masculine-like accurate difference in the vibrational nature of those dynamics. Tropical relates strongly to the earthly incarnation cycles, the physical, the inner most densities of the universal time matrix. I always felt that tropical is how society and my lineage is trying to shape me, but sidereal is who I truly am at the purest higher dimensional soul levels. I find using both, in their own way, is the best solution.
Pisces sun/Aquarius moon here... this is insanely accurate for me! I have always been highly rational and a big picture thinker. Emotional as well, but the logic always overrides the emotions. Constantly thinking about how I can improve the world. Definitely a late bloomer. Just turned 35 and feel like I'm just starting to hit my stride. Definitely have a unique look and energy that intrigues people. Not the best looking person in the world, but I ALWAYS draw attention. Especially from women. Have always thought I showed up more as an Aquarius in intimate relationships. Very aloof and need space.
Thank you. I’ve always said I felt like my sidereal chart is more accurate to me than my tropical.
That’s because you break down your chart from what you have learnt from modern tropical astrology not ancient Hellenistic whole sign system tropical astrology
omg!! i’ve been curious about sidereal bc some people say it’s more accurate - perfect timing!
It’s not. they say that because of its overlap to Vedic astrology which was used in ancient times and was developed alongside the same time with TRADITIONAL tropical astrology. except Vedic didn’t use sundials or clocks. They calculated your chart in person and used nakshatras and their mythology in a very different way meaning if you are an Aries in tropical then an Aries in Vedic. But sidereal and modern tropical astrologers wanted to start attaching their self to science so things started to get changed. The nakshatras are used differently and planet and house definitions are changed but they all give the same answers but tropical modern astrology is wrong in many ways
With that being said a lot of MODERN tropical astrology get information wrong eg the signs don’t rule any houses contrary to what they say, Pluto also doesn’t rule Scorpio(mars does), Uranus doesn’t rule Aquarius(Saturn does), also Sagittarius isn’t open minded, Leo’s aren’t attention seekers, Gemini’s are not two faced etc
I'm a Libra Rising, Aquarius Sun, and Sag Moon in tropical but a Virgo Rising, Capricorn Sun, and Scorpio Moon in Vedic. I have a Capricorn Stellium in both charts but in different houses. Crazy how astrology is.
I am a Gemini sun 7th house in the general term.
But I do love perfume, collect perfumes, go to perfumes store just in the sake to smell, discover and improve my smells skill, smells others people perfumes😅, good food…
I worked in a perfume shop for ten months I used to look everywhere in our storage to smells the other’s perfume testers that we didn’t sell anymore before I started there 🙈
WOW! Thank YOU so much for this video breakdown!! I tend to gravitate towards Tropical, but I like to learn about and understand Sidereal because it IS a part of me as well--however I wasn't always able to consolidate to two, rather just cancel them out, which in turn was disheartening. But now I'm able to understand even MORE how I am BOTH My Tropical AND Sidereal! So Thank You!! 🥰😇🤗
Well your sun sign means your soul in sidereal, but your knowledge and conscious personality in tropical. Moon sign is your mind in sidereal while moon sign is your thoughts/mood/enotion in tropical. Rising sign is your physical body, appearance and instinctual personality etc… Then there are also 27 nakshatras so you sharing the same sign in sidereal doesn’t mean you get similar or even the same descriptions. The signs are also partially defined differently
@@GiveonKing Oh ok wow--- thank you truly for that breakdown and information!!
Both systems are valid. Folks, Stop says tropical is not accurate. Scorpio /Libra here, I see both systems playing out in my life one after the other in terms of the transits.
Appreciate you introducing me to the nakshatras lady, very much appreciated. To our collective growth 🥂
As you can tell I am VERY passionate about this topic. Think of how due to most people’s rising sign moving back when switching to SIDEREAL(like 92%). You notice in sidereal it gives 1st house definition to 2nd house because most people’s tropical 1st house become their second. once again I like many features of my sidereal eg some of my signs stay the same and I love most of my new house placements but then I can get same definitions from tropical eg dominant planet and mk planet or 7th house ruler aspects and dk planet nakshatra. Both the same but sidereal struggles with how welcoming it is in my opinion
delving into sidereal/vedic astrology was like opening a whole new world for me. it was so much accurate! i'm a tropical pisces sun, scorpio moon, gemini rising and aries venus, but in sidereal i'm a aqua sun, libra moon aand taurus rising, being ruled twice! by pisces venus. so i always felt a really huge pisces influence but it was just because it rules both my moon and rising! and im such a venusian as well. not to mention the nakshatras, they're incredibly accurate as well. i recommend claire nakti's channel to learn more about it.
If you follow traditional tropical astrologers you will see the same thing. Also Vedic isn’t the same as sidereal. In sidereal they calculate chart using birth time and try to replicate the actual positions of the zodiac in ASTRONOMY and use the nakshatras differently. In Vedic your chart is calculated in person without a birth time and the nakshatras are used very very differently. they are the same thing because they all give the same answer 😊
@@GiveonKing Vedic Astrologers uses Sidereal and Nakshatras in the natal charts. They use both.
@ even western astrologers have used both. My point is this isn’t Vedic astrology. This is sidereal and modern tropical astology. Both very wrong combinations. Nakshatras are the sidereal zodiacs while Aries, taurus etc are the tropical zodiacs
@@GiveonKing Sorry you feel that way , but Vedic Astrologers uses both Sidereal and Nakshatras.
If you told me you are a Taurus, than i would have said what kind of Taurus ? I 'm not talking Decans. There are 3 types of Taurus with 4 padas each. The padas goes into the Navamsa D9 chart.
@ are you okay? nakshatras ARE the sidereal zodiac signs. Stop replying me if you keep saying the same wrong information. This isn’t Vedic astrology. This is sidereal. Most “Vedic” you see on the internet is sidereal. I find it so odd that sidereal astrologers use tropical zodiacs as well. Nakshatras weren’t used for personalities at all in Vedic astrology. Also if you were a Taurus in western then you were a Taurus in Vedic. Vedic astrologers didn’t have access to subdials and clocks so they would calculate your chart in person
I am Pisces in Tropical and Sidereal. (Late degree Pisces and Early degree pisces, respectively) ♓️💞
I’ve been told the sidereal chart is how you’re going to behave as the highest version of yourself (basically the most successful and authentic version of yourself)
Loved this 🩷🦂
I've always felt like both lol, cant wait to watch! Thanks for the information 🐱
Yeah Sidereal Ayanamsha Usha & Shashi 🫶🏽 Makes the most sense. Went from a 17° Aqua Sun to a 27° Cap. A 19° Aqua Mercury to a 29° Cap.
Really appreciate the creators that come through to expound and make things much clearer.
1:06:26 Tyler the Creator immediately comes to mind. Here for my rising sign btw and this is spot on.
I love this. This is spot on. Pisces( Aquarius)
I’m a Virgo in both. I’m a quilter. Love the video.
I'm blown away how accurate Sidereal Pisces ♓ describes me!🤯
Thank you so much for this video. 🙏
You sun sign, rising sign and moon sign don’t even mean the same thing in sidereal vs tropical but it does in Vedic because Vedic astrologers didn’t calculate your chart the same way as tropical or sidereal astrologers
@@GiveonKingcan you stop being in everyone’s comments? Astrology it’s so vague and you’re here limiting. Let people be and believe want they want
@@nochillwithme4821 astrology is not “vague” in any way shape or form. It’s an ancient study with rules. Modern astrology is vague. Traditional astrology isn’t. It covers many topics but it isn’t vague and if you genuinely believe that then this isn’t the study for you
@@nochillwithme4821 that’s like saying let people believe 1+1: 23 because of feelings. Misinformation will always be misinformation
Sidereal-> Ascendant in Pisces Sun in Aquarius Moon in Cancer I am highly spiritual I have moon and rahu and ketu both the nodes of the moon💅
Aries rising(with Jupiter and Saturn in 1st), sag sun and cancer moon in sidereal astrology ❤
As Taurus sidereal I can I guess see it now I always say I see with my hands I touch everything love smelling and feeling when I go to the store . I always fight the urge to eat with my hands as I feel I can taste the food better . A small bit of a hoarder in it’s hard for me to get rid of things especially clothing and I love singing so ya I guess using my voice and obviously love talking
Sidereal Leo moon 🙌🏾 I definitely have alot of the leo characteristics. Sassy for sure, love spas and massages.
My Cancer sun and Pisces rising are the same in both Tropical and Sidereal 💛
This was so great! Thank you! I’m a Capricorn rising and this resonated deeply!
I’m a Taurus in both tropical and sidereal
How is that possible?
@@Josiah-X because I looked it up and the time I was born gives me the same placement
@@Josiah-X also the degrees in your chart are important in tropical it’s 27 degrees and sidereal it’s 4 degrees Taurus ♉️
So interesting! I am very much like my sidereal signs.
I’m actually a libra tropical and libra sidereal it I do have a little Virgo in my sidereal but it’s still Libra
Sideral cancer here !(Leo)
That's so so true, I'v always been so so private about my life, now I know why !😂
Your sidereal signs are divided by nakshatras though (in sidereal) so I don’t get your point
@@GiveonKing just watch the video youll understand
@@oamahana but she didn’t explain the difference in sidereal signs. If you switch to sidereal you see that your sign is divided in nakshatras meaning if you are a Taurus in sidereal another sidereal Taurus will have a different definition. also if she is saying things like Sagittarius are known to be blunt because they are ruled by mars then what does that mean about tropical Scorpio who switched from being ruled from aggressive mars to peaceful Venus? How do you even change from that? she needed to specify the sepcifc nakshatras and clarify all systems are valid. this was my I stopped following her years ago. I just can’t deal with people not getting what astrology is
I am a sidereal Gemini lol 😂it’s funny because my mom always thought I was going to be born in June instead of July but that never happened but I do relate to being a Gemini also ♊️ 💕😂
Virgo tropical Leo sidereal I identify with this perfectly 💗💗💗💗
Aye, luv the shirt! My favorite movie of all time, and I'm sure the new one will be too!
Amazing!❤
I’m a 24° Leo in tropical, so 1° Leo in sidereal. Guess I’ll watch the Leo one since I’m closer to Cancer and that’s also my tropical rising sign 🙃😝
my mars and jupiter are the same. tropical libra mars and jupiter and sidereal virgo mars and jupiter.
wow......Late bloomer, and have always been awkward socially. being a sidereal aquarius definitely fits for me.
and as far as seeing into the future lol.....yeah.
all my life. even since an infant.
i am sagittarius in both systems !
Virgo rising in sidereal. Spot on.
Great presentation!
Queen, this was so accurate 😳
I’m a triple pisces on my tropical chart but for my sidereal my moon & sun are still pisces but my rising is Aquarius
My Sun,Moon, Mercury and Venus are the exact same signs they are in my tropical chart 😭
Thank you beautiful 🫶🍀💕✌🏻🥳👸🏻🩷🩵💚🎁🎂💙😊
I am a tropical Pisces and a sidereal Pisces
I feel my physical traits are more Gemini thought I don’t see Taurus physical at all except dark hair but not thick
tropical is joke, I discover sidereal, make sense now, it is me
Nakshatras is the next step brethren, no rush though
That’s because you are focused on MODERN tropical astrology. if you learn the real meaning of the signs, decans, planets and houses in original tropical astrology which is more ancient than sidereal then you know what you are saying is incorrect. Vedic and sidereal aren’t even the same
@@mikejames4910 why do people just say loud and wrong things?🙄. either types of astrology either Vedic, sidereal, tropical or Chinese are all accurate when used right. Eg a celebrity has their 7th house ruler of spouse conjunct the sun while in sidereal they have their dk planet in uttara ashadha nakshatra. Still the same thing because that is a sun ruled nakshatra. Or when someone still has a stellium in their chart of the same sign but in different planets. they all tell the same thing
ayanamsa is how alot of us was introduced to astrology so it can't be a joke alot of us that's american needed tropical to even find sidereal
@@Cory-zn5mq exactly and sidereal supporters confuse me because they say it’s the same as ancient Vedic astrology (it isn’t) but then I have seen some use to relatively discovered new astronomy zodiac sign(?¿)
Very accurate ❤
Leo Tropical, Cancer Sidereal This is extremely accurate.
Because modern tropical astrology doesn’t get the signs descriptions right but traditional tropical does. Also the signs don’t mean and planets and houses often differ from tropical to sidereal. They aren’t the same. They are different but co exist and I get what she is trying to do but it isn’t helpful to the astrology community
Sidereal is close to the Indian astrology system...glad that people are going to the real thing rather than the fake one😅
Thank you for doing this 🙏❤️
I’m a Sagittarius in both sidereal and tropical 😎
I finally feel seen and heard😩
I know alot of sidereal leos and they all have either no hair or thin hair but everything else was 100%
Vedic never worked for me.
Vedic and sidereal are actually not the same. In sidereal the definitions are different and they use nakshatras differently to create a more waffle to get the same answer as a lot of TRADITIONAL tropical astrologers. in sidereal the signs, planets and the houses have different definitions. also it tends to fall apart in a few places when talking about tropical astrology placements in late degrees
@@GiveonKing thank you !!
My top 3 is Scorpio sun Libra moon Virgo rising in sidereal it’s Libra sun Virgo moon Leo rising I relate so much w/ what you say
Hello. Western . Aquarius sun. Aries Moon. Scorpio rising .
Sidereal. Capricorn sun. Pisces Moon. Virgo Rising. Hell ye Im Sidereal ! Team Capricorn ❤❤
Wow
You are very accurate ❤Leo sun
My Sun sign is seasonal Aquarius ♒ , but i am actually a Capricorn ♑. I am the real Sea Goat / Crocodile. Shravana Nakshatra - rules by the Moon. Shravana Nakshatra elements is water. I am the real Sea Goat / Crocodile. I don't have say it, but my personality speaks for itself.
@@tigerfist1126 nope. You are an Aquarius sun, not even NASA knows the actual division of the stars in the sky. Sidereal is based off of a literal lie due to their need to force proximity to science so they can hopefully get a bigger audience and be close to science so astrology doesn’t get prosecuted like it did centuries ago by religious folks and science people. all those things you said would be found by the specific decan and bound of Aquarius you are. I don’t mind people following sidereal or Vedic or Chinese astrology but don’t portray the astrology you prefer as the real one because it isn’t and will never be. also your sun sign isn’t your personality. That’s your rising. Your sun sign is how you WANT to be seen (in most cases) and expresses itself in the house it’s in and rules
This is confusing because what about the people whose placements stay the same like I do? also a Scorpio in sidereal are still divided by nakshatras in sidereal and each planet means its specific thing so this is general no? Also your 12th house placements describe themes of your personality in traditional tropical no? So either way sidereal or tropical you relate. Also most people’s rising sign in tropical change to their second house hence sidereal astrologers also say 2nd house is your face, lips etc. however I do like their use of nakshatras compared to Vedic astrologers and I love most of my new house placements. I am a late degree Gemini in tropical so I am still a Gemini rising but my tropical transit predictions are more accurate but both chart I resonate with
lol in Tropical I’m a late degree Aquarius ♒️ but in sidereal I’m still an Aquarius ♒️ just an earlier degree.
I’m a Libra (sun) in both tropical and sidereal 😂 so I guess I’m a real double Libra. But my other planets changed signs
Same here!
Is the reference in this video for the rising or sun signs or both in this video? I ask because I'm a taurus rising, scorpio sun in one and an Aries rising, Libra sun in the other.
Spot-on
1:12:46 I’m a 6ft woman and sidereal Aquarius lol 😂
Big facts
im 21, my coworker whos 18 thought I was 16, sideral Gemini is getting too accurate with the baby face loool
I have small wrists .libra sun 😅
I’m a Tropical Cancer @ 25°, but Sidereal Cancer @ 1° 😭😭
Really challenges self perception
What is the signature Sign? Mine is in Capricorn idk I was on astro seek
Is this rising or sun signs in sidereal? Thank you❤
Katana ❤❤❤❤
Sidereal/Vedic astrology is more accurate.
Sidereal and Vedic astrology aren’t the same thing. Vedic is more ancient and due to not having access to sundials or clocks during that time Vedic astrologers could calculate your chart in person while looking at you and getting to know you. And used their own mythology and used nakshatras VERY differently than sidereal. sidereal is the one that started using time and also created its own definitions of each sign and used nakshatras in a different way to just get the same answers as Ancient tropical astrolohy. all 3 are accurate but the new modern astrology isnt accurate
@@GiveonKing Sidereal is jus included planet who people couldn't see in ancient time,this is like vedic with more planets nothing more
@@shomazima not true, nakshatras in Vedic weren’t used the same neither were the charts calculated the same way. Sidereal astrologers use the overlaps with Vedic to make their astrology seem like the original when it isn’t as ancient as traditional tropical astrology or Vedic astrology but it is still accurate.
@@GiveonKing ok, I'm not into astrology, whatever, I don trust tropical
@@shomazima that’s fine if you don’t but that doesn’t make tropical wrong. I don’t trust modern tropical astrology though due to misinformation
Hello! What if I am 0 degrees Taurus in my Sidereal? I was also Taurus in my tropical.
Look up krittka nakshatra and what it means and how it relates to you then look up critical degrees
I'm a cancer in both lol
I have sidereal Virgo and I’m a licensed massage therapist 😅🤲
What about sidereal Virgos who aren’t massage therapist? there are multiple things in a person’s tropical or sidereal chart that would lead to that profession
@@GiveonKing well duhhhh she pointed out our talented hands
@@GiveonKing go back and watch the video instead of stating the obvious
@@rebeka1605 my point is that can be pointed out in your tropical chart as well
@@GiveonKingthis is so dumb for you to say😅 She was just talking about SUN SIGNS, everybody knows there’s a whole chart to read, jheez
cusp 😮💨
Im still a Sag 😋
Are we going by sun or rising sign?
Tropical big 3 sun Aries moon Scorpio rising Sagittarius
Sidereal big 3 sun Pisces moon Libra rising ophuichus 🤷🏽
Did you sidereal say ophuichus ? If so then it makes me wonder how ancient sidereal astrology is compared to actual Vedic astrology that calculates your chart with no birth time but instead by studying you meaning your chart stays the same in Vedic as well
Sidereal Pisces move a LOT 😂
Sidereal/ Vedic Astrology is more accurate. I’m a Leo in Sidereal/ Vedic Astrology and Virgo in Tropical Astrology. I say I’m a Leo Sun.
Sidereal isn’t even the same thing as Vedic. Vedic astrologers didn’t have access to sundials or clocks so they calculated your birth chart in person and used nakshatras very differently. So your sign stays the same but sidereal in its attempt to match science astronomy constellations completely changed the study to create more waffle to tell the same story. traditional astrology works very accurate for me as well as sidereal. I haven’t gone too deep into Vedic though but I have lightly researched Chinese astrology as well. but I would give slight edge to tropical astrology(not modern one though) because it is more ancient than sidereal and more easier (relatively) to get into
I'm both aquarius 😐
Nah I'm not a scorpio, *girl take that back*
Sidereal charts are accurrate, both astronomically and tempermentally
@@jacksonfurlong3757 WRONG, even NASA doesn’t know the equal division of signs in the sky. The belief that sidereal is accurate than western and Vedic is incorrect. Sidereal’s accuracy isl like 47% less than western
@@GiveonKingin what world? for me the vedic explanations are way more accurate and detailed… also vedic chart is based on the actual sky
@@episode40 you don’t even know what Vedic actually means. I am sure you mean sidereal. Vedic uses nakshatras and the moon very differently. For example. The reason why the moon became very important in Vedic is because they had no access to sundials. sidereal uses western traditional AND modern (mostly modern western) astrology so it isn’t as reliable. You most likely thing Venus is exalted in the 12th house because you think Pisces rules the 12th house
@@episode40 you probably don’t even know what you even mean. Probably thing Vedic and sidereal are the same or Venus is exhalted in the 12th house cause “it’s the Pisces house”.
@@episode40 also what do you mean in what world ? In this one Your bias doesn’t take away from facts
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