I have the 36 volt 7 ¼ essentially the exact saw in 36 volt and I absolutely love it plus found it dirt cheap, I couldn't have bought a corded saw for what I paid and when you consider metabo hpt 36 volt line can run either cordless or corded you really get the biggest bang for your money. Metabo hpt is very under rated in the professional trades.
@@chrisE815 on Amazon back in August, paid $86. Also found the 36 volt recip saw for $98 but Amazon canceled that order the day it was supposed to arrive.
@@chrisE815 yeah it's a beast. Metabo hpt is definitely a solid brand. I started out with Brad, finish (15ga) and framing nailers and realized how decent the build quality and performance was.
I really like this channel. You are doing good quality reviews, you know what to test and how, and you have a good talking device. That's pretty much all you need to provide high quality content. Technically you're also pretty good, and this comment is coming from an engineer. I have one remark though: you said multiple times that bigger batteries win because the voltage drops less. That is true, but it's not really why they provide more power. It's because they have multiple banx of li-ion cell series connected in parallel. A 10-cell battery has twice the ampacity of a 5-cell (compact) battery for the same voltage and the tool can draw higher current, which translates directly into more torque. That's why a tool with a big battery cuts/drills better. The multivolt battery uses a trick to sense the tool and switch between 5s2p (5-cell series, 2 of them in parallel) or a 10s (all cells in series) configuration. Either way, the power output is the same because power equals to voltage times current. The only difference is that in an all-series configuration the current can pass a little easier through the battery connectors to the tool because of less resistance. So the higher voltage configuration gives ever so slightly more power.
Thabk you for the comment. I agree 100 percent as to what you are saying, but explaining that over and over is tough. People will argue with you that Ah rating mean nothing, all batteries are the same, ect. I have proved that some batteries have a higher discharge rate and with that, the viewers can see the voltage stays higher on those batteries through our video testing. So, since I can show people that through our testing, I dumbed it down to there to stop the complaining. Maybe not smart, but it is hard to keep up on the hate comments if I say to much more.
You do a great Straight forward, common sense job in your reviews Haters are just that and missing out when they spend all their time being little b#t€¥s
@@HeroOfTime303 Yes, hasn't failed me: very lightweight, fecent powet, and cuts clean and straight with a Diablo blade. Heavy-duty stuff goes to the 36v rear-handle saw, which also acquits itself quite well.
@@raminieminen2955 Really Rami? No kidding? Thanks for the clarification! 🙄 Seeing as how I more than likely owned German Metabo branded tools, before you, and the fact I own a bunch of Metabo HPT tools, both Pneumatic and cordless, umm yeah, You have a pleasant day!
Brand grammar police 👮♀️ in the house lol as if he didn’t know that he’s watching the first review of this saw on yt…. exert dominance where you can lil buddy
If the price point is low, I can see this circ being bought but like you said, there's already a great 6 1/2 in the line up with a deeper cut and the 7 1/4 multivolt is so light that it feels like a 6 1/2 in the hands but with more power on tap.
They are missing out Have u tested it vs the old 6 1/2 for power and other features R they discontinuing the 36V sidewinder We run both the rear handle 36V and 36V sidewinder for most of our jobsite work Have the older 6 1/2 in shop as a track saw
Just got this saw yesterday, was waiting to get the 36volt version but they had the buy this saw get a 2 pack 2ah 18volt battery and charger free at lowes, so couldn't turn it down. Yeah it's not gonna be as stout as a 36volt but I was kinda surprised at how it preformed to be so light and the brake is a nice feature used to a ancient corded porter cable with no brake and a guard that sticks so was nice to be able to set it down after a quick cut and not cut into a cutting table etc ha xD i feel like of you find a deal on it sure pick it up, but don't pay full price for the bare tool wait for it to go on sale or get it with the free battery's if your already on the 18volt platform
This saw indeed seems underpowered. I thought I saw that it was like 3600 rpms. The benefit here may just be the price(depending on what that is). On a positive note, they've finally made a larger forward handle, instead of using the same one for every size circular saw. They've come out with an 18v version sawzall with or orbital mode. It's different looking than the 36v version, but has similar specs. It's still only released in Japan.
I'v used them feels good, it's compact, but lacks power compared to the others, But I guess battery technology is going to have to get better for lighter weight and power in a compact saw like that.
Thought it was cool they made this saw. Basically looks like an 18v version of the 36v. I have their 36v saws, and wouldn’t grab this myself, but maybe there are some folks who are only in their 18v line that this would be good for. But in my opinion… just get the 36v and get the 6 1/2, 18v saw if you want something more compact.
I never knew that a circular saw can have a quiet feature kind of like a quiet impact driver like the circular saws to me are the loudest tool next to the impact driver and any other tools that get loud but the circular saw is loud this saw is good to use inside ryobi circular saw are the loudest saw I ever use and need ear plugs for them.
Sooo tempting, if it weren't for the amazing Makita deals at HD right now (and the ability to get their oil impulse driver). MetaboHPT really needs to release a hydraulic driver to knock the M18 Surge and Makita off the throne.
I'm have the Makita rear handle and the sidewinders We replaced them with the Metabo HPT 36V's and haven't looked back, lighter and great performance for a fraction of Makita and Milwaukees over priced offerings
Metabo was a German company until Hitachi bought them.. They were very well known by professionals.. They made the best angle grinders in the business, hands down.. I still have one that I've used daily for almost 30 years now.. I just recently switched over from the Dewalt XR platform to the Metabo HPT platform.. The Metabo tools and batteries blow the Dewalt stuff away.. They have more power, and they are lighter and more compact.. They almost make the Dewalt stuff look like black and decker..
Our 36V Pro grade Metabo HPT tools run circles around my co workers Flex volts.and he is really jealous when SDS Max rotohammering and his flexvolt batteries are burning up and don't want to take a charge and I get my AC adapter and work all day He also hates it when DeWalt doesn't stand by their Warranty and I get my warranteed product back in a week turnaround which I've only had to use once on one of the 50+ green tools we own Oh yeah and when ripping larger stock on our industry leading table saw his batteries again are burning up and not charging while I again.ug in my Multivolt adapter and finish the day Oh yeah and then we use the industry only 1/2" full.size router to cut out our windows and other rough ins as his baby DeWalt' router burns up it's motor trying to do the same thing Oh yeah and then we take the MHPT rear handle to do above the head and shoulder work while he has to go to the surgeon to replace his torn rotator cuff from running that 60V DeWalt brick all day Yeah DeWalt definitely smells like sh$t
Metabo /hikoki are cheap tack not much cheaper than Milwaukee or dewalt having said that who’s noticed all tools are not made to last compared to 10 years ago
Appreciate you looking at these tools that other reviewers wouldn't even bother spending 2 minutes on
I have the 36 volt 7 ¼ essentially the exact saw in 36 volt and I absolutely love it plus found it dirt cheap, I couldn't have bought a corded saw for what I paid and when you consider metabo hpt 36 volt line can run either cordless or corded you really get the biggest bang for your money. Metabo hpt is very under rated in the professional trades.
What was the deal you found? Where?
@@chrisE815 on Amazon back in August, paid $86. Also found the 36 volt recip saw for $98 but Amazon canceled that order the day it was supposed to arrive.
@@The_Big_G dude, i love that recip for heavy duty work
@@chrisE815 yeah it's a beast. Metabo hpt is definitely a solid brand. I started out with Brad, finish (15ga) and framing nailers and realized how decent the build quality and performance was.
I really like this channel. You are doing good quality reviews, you know what to test and how, and you have a good talking device. That's pretty much all you need to provide high quality content.
Technically you're also pretty good, and this comment is coming from an engineer. I have one remark though: you said multiple times that bigger batteries win because the voltage drops less. That is true, but it's not really why they provide more power. It's because they have multiple banx of li-ion cell series connected in parallel. A 10-cell battery has twice the ampacity of a 5-cell (compact) battery for the same voltage and the tool can draw higher current, which translates directly into more torque. That's why a tool with a big battery cuts/drills better.
The multivolt battery uses a trick to sense the tool and switch between 5s2p (5-cell series, 2 of them in parallel) or a 10s (all cells in series) configuration. Either way, the power output is the same because power equals to voltage times current. The only difference is that in an all-series configuration the current can pass a little easier through the battery connectors to the tool because of less resistance. So the higher voltage configuration gives ever so slightly more power.
Thabk you for the comment. I agree 100 percent as to what you are saying, but explaining that over and over is tough. People will argue with you that Ah rating mean nothing, all batteries are the same, ect. I have proved that some batteries have a higher discharge rate and with that, the viewers can see the voltage stays higher on those batteries through our video testing. So, since I can show people that through our testing, I dumbed it down to there to stop the complaining. Maybe not smart, but it is hard to keep up on the hate comments if I say to much more.
Why don't u think other brands offer the AC adapter-is it really only capable in a 36V conversion vs an 18V?
You do a great
Straight forward, common sense job in your reviews
Haters are just that and missing out when they spend all their time being little b#t€¥s
@@baseballdude8491 any AC adapter is possible with any voltage.
New saw looks good but I'm Deep Cut for 90% of my circ-saw needs. Good review as usual.
Still using deep cut?
@@HeroOfTime303 Yes, hasn't failed me: very lightweight, fecent powet, and cuts clean and straight with a Diablo blade. Heavy-duty stuff goes to the 36v rear-handle saw, which also acquits itself quite well.
I wonder if a Diablo or Spyder blade would bog it even less. Not sure how the stock Metabo blades rank. I love HPT for prioritizing weight and noise.
WORKSHOP ADDICT on a roll with Metabo !!!!!!!!!!
Metabo HPT, not Metabo. Two different brands
@@raminieminen2955 Really Rami? No kidding? Thanks for the clarification! 🙄
Seeing as how I more than likely owned German Metabo branded tools, before you, and the fact I own a bunch of Metabo HPT tools, both Pneumatic and cordless, umm yeah, You have a pleasant day!
Brand grammar police 👮♀️ in the house lol as if he didn’t know that he’s watching the first review of this saw on yt…. exert dominance where you can lil buddy
If the price point is low, I can see this circ being bought but like you said, there's already a great 6 1/2 in the line up with a deeper cut and the 7 1/4 multivolt is so light that it feels like a 6 1/2 in the hands but with more power on tap.
i have 3 of these saws , i use one of them to cut 3cm Silestone and granite backsplash and cooktop cuts ... i love this saw.
How's compare to 6 1/2 deep cut 18v??thanks
They are missing out
Have u tested it vs the old 6 1/2 for power and other features
R they discontinuing the 36V sidewinder
We run both the rear handle 36V and 36V sidewinder for most of our jobsite work
Have the older 6 1/2 in shop as a track saw
Wish they would send us the 6 1/2 36V they sell in other parts of the world(Hikoki)
@@baseballdude8491Yeah and their 125mm 36v saw as well.
Power saws with a silent mode, imagine the new horror movies
I want them to bring out 36 volt 6 and 1/2 inch saw
They have it nut ok only as a Hikoki so far
Waiting for t HH e release here
Just got this saw yesterday, was waiting to get the 36volt version but they had the buy this saw get a 2 pack 2ah 18volt battery and charger free at lowes, so couldn't turn it down. Yeah it's not gonna be as stout as a 36volt but I was kinda surprised at how it preformed to be so light and the brake is a nice feature used to a ancient corded porter cable with no brake and a guard that sticks so was nice to be able to set it down after a quick cut and not cut into a cutting table etc ha xD i feel like of you find a deal on it sure pick it up, but don't pay full price for the bare tool wait for it to go on sale or get it with the free battery's if your already on the 18volt platform
This saw indeed seems underpowered. I thought I saw that it was like 3600 rpms. The benefit here may just be the price(depending on what that is). On a positive note, they've finally made a larger forward handle, instead of using the same one for every size circular saw.
They've come out with an 18v version sawzall with or orbital mode. It's different looking than the 36v version, but has similar specs. It's still only released in Japan.
That 4 amp battery look pretty nice looks a whole lot lighter than a five now they need to come out with a new 18 volt impact Bolt
They've released them in Japan already, and also a 10.8/12v bolt
Can you get this in a 240v corded version? With the silent mode?
Thanks
No
I'v used them feels good, it's compact, but lacks power compared to the others, But I guess battery technology is going to have to get better for lighter weight and power in a compact saw like that.
Thought it was cool they made this saw. Basically looks like an 18v version of the 36v. I have their 36v saws, and wouldn’t grab this myself, but maybe there are some folks who are only in their 18v line that this would be good for. But in my opinion… just get the 36v and get the 6 1/2, 18v saw if you want something more compact.
Try the Metabo BrushLess (BL) Circular saw. It has 40% more power. Same for the Brushless battery powered drill
How do you like the new batterys
So far so good!
Not bad but definitely sounded like it struggled with some of the cuts. Pretty cool features tho. Cordless saws have really come a long way
I never knew that a circular saw can have a quiet feature kind of like a quiet impact driver like the circular saws to me are the loudest tool next to the impact driver and any other tools that get loud but the circular saw is loud this saw is good to use inside ryobi circular saw are the loudest saw I ever use and need ear plugs for them.
I own this saw. It is under powered. I do like the cut light and it is accurate. However if you are not dead straight on your cut it will bind.
Is it accept AC adapter?
Only the 36V tools can use the adapter
I'm jealous seeing ya with a hoody on when it's 89° here in central Florida
It has been 29 to 41 degrees in the morning and 65 to 70 in the afternoon. I would take a Florida winter any day.
@@WorkshopAddict ya hate what ya have and love what ya don't 🤷🏻♂️
Sooo tempting, if it weren't for the amazing Makita deals at HD right now (and the ability to get their oil impulse driver). MetaboHPT really needs to release a hydraulic driver to knock the M18 Surge and Makita off the throne.
They used to make one
I'm have the Makita rear handle and the sidewinders
We replaced them with the Metabo HPT 36V's and haven't looked back, lighter and great performance for a fraction of Makita and Milwaukees over priced offerings
They always have the oil impulse going...it's just not in North America.
Why Metabo instead of Hitachi? Hitachi is a known name. Metabo sounds weird like some Chinese brand
Metabo was a German company until Hitachi bought them.. They were very well known by professionals.. They made the best angle grinders in the business, hands down.. I still have one that I've used daily for almost 30 years now.. I just recently switched over from the Dewalt XR platform to the Metabo HPT platform.. The Metabo tools and batteries blow the Dewalt stuff away.. They have more power, and they are lighter and more compact.. They almost make the Dewalt stuff look like black and decker..
60v dewalt takes a big fat steamy dump onthis
This is like a budget saw. Does DeWalt make less powerful, less expensive 7.25" circular saws than the 60v??
Don't tell me they don't.
@@histguy101 who cares if they do or not. They arent worth a fk for framing houses
The 60v will saw the earth in half
I got mine for 229 with 9amphr batt so not huge price diff champ
Our 36V Pro grade Metabo HPT tools run circles around my co workers Flex volts.and he is really jealous when SDS Max rotohammering and his flexvolt batteries are burning up and don't want to take a charge and I get my AC adapter and work all day
He also hates it when DeWalt doesn't stand by their Warranty and I get my warranteed product back in a week turnaround which I've only had to use once on one of the 50+ green tools we own
Oh yeah and when ripping larger stock on our industry leading table saw his batteries again are burning up and not charging while I again.ug in my Multivolt adapter and finish the day
Oh yeah and then we use the industry only 1/2" full.size router to cut out our windows and other rough ins as his baby DeWalt' router burns up it's motor trying to do the same thing
Oh yeah and then we take the MHPT rear handle to do above the head and shoulder work while he has to go to the surgeon to replace his torn rotator cuff from running that 60V DeWalt brick all day
Yeah DeWalt definitely smells like sh$t
Metabo /hikoki are cheap tack not much cheaper than Milwaukee or dewalt having said that who’s noticed all tools are not made to last compared to 10 years ago
I've never had a Milwaukee or Hitachi tool go bad. Batteries, yes. Tools, not yet.