The present movement for women's rights will certainly prevail from the history of its only opponent, Northern conservatism. This is a party which never conserves anything. . . American conservatism is merely the shadow that follows Radicalism as it moves forward towards perdition. . . The only practical purpose it now subserves in American politics is to give enough exercise to Radicalism to. . prevent its becoming lazy from having nothing to whip. -- Robert L. Dabney, 1871
1 John 4:20 King James Version “ If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?”
The present movement for women's rights will certainly prevail from the history of its only opponent, Northern conservatism. This is a party which never conserves anything. . . American conservatism is merely the shadow that follows Radicalism as it moves forward towards perdition. . . The only practical purpose it now subserves in American politics is to give enough exercise to Radicalism to. . prevent its becoming lazy from having nothing to whip. -- Robert L. Dabney, 1871
Very interesting video. I had a question pertaining to the story of the man on the train. My husband and I were talking and I think that the attitude of not honoring women in standing so she can sit, or not opening doors, etc. has become so pervasive in our culture, even in the church, that it is in a way perpetuating the egalitarian sentiment? That some women may falling for a false way of thinking that if I am not honored and respected by being a lady then I will be honored and respected by having the position of a man. Either way I believe it is sin however I just wondered if it might be perpetuating an attitude that tends toward this sin.
On January 2, 1867 he again wrote to Hoge: “Either the Negro must move, or the College and Seminary must move.” He writes so beautiful, his teaching philosophy is full of love for family values all much follow ? Except me, ….. I pray 🙏🏾 God leads both of you to men in the faith who truly represents all of Gods dignity, truth, And Gospel….. I pray future family in the faith will read your books, invoke your names in podcast as men of the faithful. When the future remembers your work in the kingdom if God, I pray they don’t see this podcast, that feeds White supremacy & keeps it alive and comfortable in churches today. God bless both of you.
It is truly sickening the way they are praising this man who had extreme hatred of blacks. They have to know it. I suppose one is “woke” for pointing it out.
@@MeadeSkeltonMusicLincoln was not a theologian whose ideas that people are trying to revive. This is all part of the idea that “race mixing” is sinful. Can’t have friends or spouses of another race
That man litteraly prohibited blacks to attend services and to take The Lord supper with whites. He went against of one of the most important commands in the bible which is to love your brothers as yourself. There is no jews or gentiles in christ, nor blacks or whites. God saves people of all races and cultures! The simple fact of considering such an individual as a disciple of christ is an insult to Christ. Would this man still be respected in the reformed community if he was defending others sins as homosexuality or adultery??? That's hypocrisy!!! 1 corinthians 13:2 "And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing."
Yup. It's a huge problem for which he should not receive a pass. Since you wrote your comment 3 years ago, you would have no way of knowing that it has now been revealed on twittervand elsewhere that kinism is alive and well in certain Christian circles.
@ this new kinism is horrific and spreading among young white men that call themselves “reformed”. The men they listen to are drawing inspiration from men like Dabney. They have this bizarre theory that the races are to not be friends with with other because God never intended for the races to encounter one another
Dabney is one of the most brilliant Christian thinkers and theologians in the history of the church of the living God. Woke racists have tried to cancel and discredit this mighty man of God, but to no avail! Especially those who hold to a false damnable gospel and yet try to denounce Dabney. Dabney as a slave holder was no worse than Philemon. And much of what he says in his defense of Virginia and the South are historically correct with respect to the hypocrisy and aggression of the Northern invaders who had no real interest in ending slavery. Unfortunately, and with regret, his racialism was a stain on his overall character. The best of men are only men at best and had flaws as we all do. We can repudiate and denounce his sin and errors without denouncing the whole of a man's life and godliness. If so, then we ought to do the same with David.
You men ought to know that biblical "slavery" was NOT the slavery that was in America. The word "slavery" in the Bible referred to indentured servitude.
Which word for slavery? Are you talking about Hebrew or Greek? No one's arguing that the Roman and Hebrew slave systems were the same as American in many cases. Hebrew was ideal (as it was from God's law), Roman was worse than American, yet Paul had specific instructions for slave/master relationships and Jesus used examples of slavery in his parables.
@@ConversationsThatMatterpodcast so what are you saying? its okay to own a slave as long as we follow your interpretation of Paul advice for slave ownership?
@@ConversationsThatMatterpodcastDo you deny thaf a Christian master must love his slaves as himself? Ethically, slavery is therefore reduced to a system of voluntary submission (unless the master wishes to deny Christ)
OK, here's my problem: There was the disclaimer out of the gate, that Dabney was a slaver. How can we ignore that as it is specifically called out in scripture? This is the problem I find throughout "Christianity". The Kingdom of Heaven suffers violence, and the violent take it by force.
Dabney was a slave-holder, not a "slaver." He spoke against the slave trade calling it an "This iniquitous traffic," and saw the slave system as having many evils attached to it, as mentioned in the video.
@@creatioexnihilo6599 How about you just read what he wrote? The retort, "He should have become an abolitionist," in light of his writings, is truly a ridiculous demand.
Really appreciated this discussion. Its so nice to see young fellows discussing Dabney and who know the truth about MLK.
Michael Malice has a good quote, "conservatism is progressive-ism going the speed limit."
The present movement for women's rights will certainly prevail from the history of its only opponent, Northern conservatism. This is a party which never conserves anything. . . American conservatism is merely the shadow that follows Radicalism as it moves forward towards perdition. . . The only practical purpose it now subserves in American politics is to give enough exercise to Radicalism to. . prevent its becoming lazy from having nothing to whip.
-- Robert L. Dabney, 1871
Excellent interview. I got the book yesterday!
Learned a lot here about Dabney! Excellent
1 John 4:20
King James Version “
If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?”
"brother" not demonic anti-christs who lie about being Christians.
The present movement for women's rights will certainly prevail from the history of its only opponent, Northern conservatism. This is a party which never conserves anything. . . American conservatism is merely the shadow that follows Radicalism as it moves forward towards perdition. . . The only practical purpose it now subserves in American politics is to give enough exercise to Radicalism to. . prevent its becoming lazy from having nothing to whip.
-- Robert L. Dabney, 1871
Just ran across Dabney recently through Doug Wilson great mind . Is there any other unknowns like Dabney y’all could recommend
Very interesting video. I had a question pertaining to the story of the man on the train. My husband and I were talking and I think that the attitude of not honoring women in standing so she can sit, or not opening doors, etc. has become so pervasive in our culture, even in the church, that it is in a way perpetuating the egalitarian sentiment? That some women may falling for a false way of thinking that if I am not honored and respected by being a lady then I will be honored and respected by having the position of a man. Either way I believe it is sin however I just wondered if it might be perpetuating an attitude that tends toward this sin.
Dabney is a hero of mine, and his works have only become more accurate and relevant as time has gone on.
Dabney also hated blacks
On January 2, 1867 he again wrote to Hoge: “Either the Negro must move, or the College and Seminary must move.” He writes so beautiful, his teaching philosophy is full of love for family values all much follow ? Except me, ….. I pray 🙏🏾 God leads both of you to men in the faith who truly represents all of Gods dignity, truth, And Gospel….. I pray future family in the faith will read your books, invoke your names in podcast as men of the faithful. When the future remembers your work in the kingdom if God, I pray they don’t see this podcast, that feeds White supremacy & keeps it alive and comfortable in churches today. God bless both of you.
UNBELIEVABLE! How these brothers can publicly laud a racist who hated black people is beyond me! #Disappointed
Based
@@thebcvbookchapterversepodc7886 if you want to see racist, look up some of Lincolns quotes, or General Sherman
It is truly sickening the way they are praising this man who had extreme hatred of blacks. They have to know it. I suppose one is “woke” for pointing it out.
@@MeadeSkeltonMusicLincoln was not a theologian whose ideas that people are trying to revive. This is all part of the idea that “race mixing” is sinful. Can’t have friends or spouses of another race
That man litteraly prohibited blacks to attend services and to take The Lord supper with whites. He went against of one of the most important commands in the bible which is to love your brothers as yourself. There is no jews or gentiles in christ, nor blacks or whites. God saves people of all races and cultures!
The simple fact of considering such an individual as a disciple of christ is an insult to Christ. Would this man still be respected in the reformed community if he was defending others sins as homosexuality or adultery???
That's hypocrisy!!!
1 corinthians 13:2
"And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing."
Just shows who the REAL racists are in the church, doesn't it? 🤔
Amen
Yup. It's a huge problem for which he should not receive a pass. Since you wrote your comment 3 years ago, you would have no way of knowing that it has now been revealed on twittervand elsewhere that kinism is alive and well in certain Christian circles.
@ this new kinism is horrific and spreading among young white men that call themselves “reformed”. The men they listen to are drawing inspiration from men like Dabney. They have this bizarre theory that the races are to not be friends with with other because God never intended for the races to encounter one another
Dabney is one of the most brilliant Christian thinkers and theologians in the history of the church of the living God. Woke racists have tried to cancel and discredit this mighty man of God, but to no avail! Especially those who hold to a false damnable gospel and yet try to denounce Dabney. Dabney as a slave holder was no worse than Philemon. And much of what he says in his defense of Virginia and the South are historically correct with respect to the hypocrisy and aggression of the Northern invaders who had no real interest in ending slavery. Unfortunately, and with regret, his racialism was a stain on his overall character. The best of men are only men at best and had flaws as we all do. We can repudiate and denounce his sin and errors without denouncing the whole of a man's life and godliness. If so, then we ought to do the same with David.
You men ought to know that biblical "slavery" was NOT the slavery that was in America. The word "slavery" in the Bible referred to indentured servitude.
Which word for slavery? Are you talking about Hebrew or Greek? No one's arguing that the Roman and Hebrew slave systems were the same as American in many cases. Hebrew was ideal (as it was from God's law), Roman was worse than American, yet Paul had specific instructions for slave/master relationships and Jesus used examples of slavery in his parables.
@@ConversationsThatMatterpodcast so what are you saying? its okay to own a slave as long as we follow your interpretation of Paul advice for slave ownership?
@@WTG194God allowed slavery
@@WTG194there were good and bad slave owners
@@ConversationsThatMatterpodcastDo you deny thaf a Christian master must love his slaves as himself? Ethically, slavery is therefore reduced to a system of voluntary submission (unless the master wishes to deny Christ)
Robert Lewis Dabney is like Tomas de Torquemada and Tony Alamo, he's a Christian who makes atheism look good.
OK, here's my problem: There was the disclaimer out of the gate, that Dabney was a slaver. How can we ignore that as it is specifically called out in scripture? This is the problem I find throughout "Christianity". The Kingdom of Heaven suffers violence, and the violent take it by force.
Dabney was a slave-holder, not a "slaver." He spoke against the slave trade calling it an "This iniquitous traffic," and saw the slave system as having many evils attached to it, as mentioned in the video.
@@ConversationsThatMatterpodcast Great, he should have become an abolitionist. In the post-gay-marriage era, there is no way forward but repentance.
@@creatioexnihilo6599 How about you just read what he wrote? The retort, "He should have become an abolitionist," in light of his writings, is truly a ridiculous demand.
@@creatioexnihilo6599 So no way forward but apologizing for everything (whether it's necessary or not) and pleasing the SJW culture?
@@ConversationsThatMatterpodcast Is slave-holder and slaver suppose to be a great distinction?