Bodyweight ratio to lifted weight will always be more favourable for lighter people. So the jacked dude shouldn't really feel bad for having ratio worse. If he somehow magically dropped weight heavily, his lift would definitely also drop, but the ratio would get much better.
It's really why DOTS/Wilks is a far better metric to use for such comparisons. Some 60kg dude deadlifting 180kg is not half as impressive as a 90kg dude deadlifting 270kg (~600 pounds) People just don't get how the square-cube law works in real life.
Yeah. It doesnt make as much sense for as "evening field" for me. Let's say we have 2 friends both start at 50 kilo. First one get 100 kg deadlift with the same bodyweight after year and other one got 120 deadlift with 60kg bodyweight. The second one seems like better powerlifter for me: he is obviously stronger because he put size. But that bodyweight ratio would disregard that and say: "Nah their both the level of strength is the same." So instead of leveling the field in can devalue the one's achievements.
That´s why sports like weightlifting or powerlifting use adapted metrics like sinclair or wilks. A simple bodyweight ratio is not a fair evaluation. It´s just not how the human body works.
That doesn't make sense. For athletes with such low body fat, the heavier athlete has the advantage when comparing the moved weight to body weight because a greater proportion of that body weight is muscle compared to the smaller lifters. And let's not forget that the biggest dude had the highest ratio.
14:41 for as big as this guy is he actually moves with so much grace it's super impressive. I think we can all learn something from alternative training disciplines.
It isn't if you think about it. Neither the 1 minute assault bike or the HR recover is cardiovascular fitness test, its a pure anaerobic fitness test. Its not surprising the guy who usually takes 45-60 seconds to do all the bodybuilding sets repeated with 1-2 minutes of recovery; its basically been accidentally designed for him. Whereas the distance runner does poorly. My last block for a long trail running race my shortest "high intensity intervals" were 20 minute threshold paced repeats. I'd be interested to see the comparison of them all doing a critical power test or FTP test on a stationary bike.
Anaerobic is part of cardiovascular fitness, and I expect for most people it is a pretty decent proxy. So is FTP of course, but putting someone on a bike also will only get you one part of cardiovascular fitness. I would suck at your fitness metrics, even in my rowing days, because I rarely set on a bike, and I never had to do those kinds of workouts. It's much shorter: 10x1 min, 6x2min, etc. It's hard to find the right test that works for everyone. I'd be curious to see if people who only lift get similar results, cause from what I've seen those people actually are limited by their lack of cardiovascular fitness.
@@lucasseuren4180 1 minute efforts are not a good way to judge cardiovascular fitness, precisely because it is anaerobic. It mostly relies on anaerobic metabolism, which isn't directly correlated to cardiovascular fitness, before relying on the aerobic metabolism once this first system is exhausted. Hence why the bodybuilder did good, training almost exclusively his anaerobic metabolism. His just lasted longer than others and he didn't have to tap into his aerobic metabolism as much, giving him a shorter HR recover.
Bodybuilder is definitely the MVP, very unexpectedly. His level of muscle mass is unattainable (even with gear) for pretty much everyone there, and almost everyone in the world, and still having a significant level of strength, an amazing vertical jump, obviously incredible leg press, and amazing bike performance is ridiculous. In terms of impressiveness in this challenge specifically, he was the one who impressed me the most.
@@enderium3253 for most of the exercises, his high body weight was actually to his detriment. All the exercises were pretty much standardized, so it's impressive that he was the most well-rounded athlete in the group.
@@enderium3253 Only 2 of the events were strength based and they both took into account weight so him being twice as big as everyone wasn't an advantage at all. Also, you can't tell me you expected him to have the highest heart rate recovery and vertical jump at his size..
I had an amazing time doing this fitness test. I think the takeaway of this video should be that your journey is your own , and it’s great to test yourself and get out of your comfort zone 🫶✌️
Eugene, absolutely loved this concept! Small piece of feedback from a viewer experience: The audio distortion from the screaming made it hard to listen to at times.
So… the body builder (at least among the men) was definitely the most naturally gifted athlete of the bunch. Not trying to take away any of his or anyone else’s accomplishments, which are very impressive, but his comment about always having a good vertical sort of confirmed that he’s just built different.
7:34 Bruh 2,5-3X BW is supposed to be Advanced and the guy who won the deadlift event by lifting 300kg or 2,5X BW barely makes it into advanced. The professional power lifter girl hit 2,4X BW is supposedly just intermediate. This estimate for how much you should pull is ass tbh.
@@VasardoPT Oh yeah, thanks! Missed female category. Although I do still feel I agree with my sentiment that the inteval for advanced is a little high. But I guess it depends in what context you are talking. If Elite is Literally top in the worlds then I guess the scale is fair. But for the average gym goer i feel that the intervals are high.
Ah unfortunate but you have a small misstake in the video. At 16:55 you show the sheet of the excercises and the test but you managed to mix up the test of the dead hang vs vertical jump. EXCERCISE: TEST: DEAD HANG MAX HEIGHT IN INCHES VERTICAL JUMP MAX TIME @ BW
Seemed like many people didn't want their scores being shown. I guess it was a matter of consent or something. It's impressive to see our bodybuilder buddy getting such high results, I also figure the dead hang was one he knew wasn't gonna go well
I'm confused about the heart rate recovery section. He said that above 18 is good but he said that the heaviest athlete scored the worst. The heaviest athlete was 45, isn't that the best?
As a 55 year old man who lifts weights and does cardio on a regular basis, I won't do a 1 rep max on anything. What would be a comparable goal for 5 reps or 10 reps?
a better test for cardio / pulmonary fitness would have been a either a timed distance to run, cycle or row or an equivalent to the coopers run test imo
Please does anyone know the full name of the guy with a short torso and long legs doing a deadlift, the only part I got from his name was “Stewart” and I am not sure it is completely correct
Eugue, great video. I would love for you to check out the most underrated physical culturalist on RUclips: Will Ratelle. Dude is crazy strong AND fast. You should do an interview with him.
Is there a way to do high intensity cardio except running? I walk at least 10k every day but and am pretty fit but i wanna do some intense cardio just for the heck of it
Loved this video - not only because it was cool to get so many different types of elite athletes together, but because they were Australian and therefore just generally more fun and laid back. Nice one. Love from India 🇮🇳 ❤
Feels like Eugene is just completely ignoring the results of the test so he can keep saying what he has pre-written down. The body builder did the best on every test but he doesn't even talk about that at all, just continues to say we should switch from pure bodybuilding to hybrid training because that's what he did.
Where are those commentors who keep saying pro-bodybuilders are just muscles with no strength? 😅 This video shows exactly why 💉💦 are banned in competitions
A 60second effort is not a test of your aerobic capacity. This is waaaay above your threshold, so it mostly measures how well your anaerobic energy systems workk,. And maybe secondary for people not used to this level of lactate how pain tolerant you are.
Because you need to learn how to clean first, and then try to express you power with these. So like yeah, they hard for most people, who never done them. And i think there is no need to be salty about that.
Cleans also test your mobility heavily. You can lack power and get really fast under the bar in an ass to grass front squat and get a great clean that way. Or you can us raw power and hoist the bar without even trying to get under it. That makes for too many variables to test just one quality. Cleans are a good tool to develop power but not so much for testing it in this context.
@ replace u with I… I was talking about myself. I can rdl heavier than a regular deadlift. Why would that be? Mind you I don’t do regular deadlifts I only do rdls and the other day I was like I’ll try a regular deadlift and the weight didn’t want to get off the floor lol I don’t understand
Instead of comparing weight lifted to total body weight, it should be compared to the weight of lean muscle mass. Women stand zero chance against men because our bodies have much less muscle proportionately. The average man has about twice the lean muscle mass of the average woman, yet the average male weight is not twice that of the average female weight because of bones, water, organs, and our higher body fat percentage.
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Bodyweight ratio to lifted weight will always be more favourable for lighter people. So the jacked dude shouldn't really feel bad for having ratio worse. If he somehow magically dropped weight heavily, his lift would definitely also drop, but the ratio would get much better.
It's really why DOTS/Wilks is a far better metric to use for such comparisons. Some 60kg dude deadlifting 180kg is not half as impressive as a 90kg dude deadlifting 270kg (~600 pounds)
People just don't get how the square-cube law works in real life.
Yeah. It doesnt make as much sense for as "evening field" for me. Let's say we have 2 friends both start at 50 kilo. First one get 100 kg deadlift with the same bodyweight after year and other one got 120 deadlift with 60kg bodyweight. The second one seems like better powerlifter for me: he is obviously stronger because he put size. But that bodyweight ratio would disregard that and say: "Nah their both the level of strength is the same." So instead of leveling the field in can devalue the one's achievements.
That´s why sports like weightlifting or powerlifting use adapted metrics like sinclair or wilks. A simple bodyweight ratio is not a fair evaluation. It´s just not how the human body works.
That doesn't make sense. For athletes with such low body fat, the heavier athlete has the advantage when comparing the moved weight to body weight because a greater proportion of that body weight is muscle compared to the smaller lifters. And let's not forget that the biggest dude had the highest ratio.
@@aleithiatoews6452 Look up 2 things. DOTS/Willks and the square cube law.
14:41 for as big as this guy is he actually moves with so much grace it's super impressive. I think we can all learn something from alternative training disciplines.
I love seeing how diverse and different these pros are. Really goes to show that the gym has so many different avenues to where u can aim for
they all seemed like amateur's to me, apart from eugene.
Bodybuilder dominating HRR was the most surprising to me; that is some impressive cardiovascular fitness with that level of muscle and strength
It isn't if you think about it. Neither the 1 minute assault bike or the HR recover is cardiovascular fitness test, its a pure anaerobic fitness test. Its not surprising the guy who usually takes 45-60 seconds to do all the bodybuilding sets repeated with 1-2 minutes of recovery; its basically been accidentally designed for him. Whereas the distance runner does poorly. My last block for a long trail running race my shortest "high intensity intervals" were 20 minute threshold paced repeats.
I'd be interested to see the comparison of them all doing a critical power test or FTP test on a stationary bike.
Anaerobic is part of cardiovascular fitness, and I expect for most people it is a pretty decent proxy. So is FTP of course, but putting someone on a bike also will only get you one part of cardiovascular fitness. I would suck at your fitness metrics, even in my rowing days, because I rarely set on a bike, and I never had to do those kinds of workouts. It's much shorter: 10x1 min, 6x2min, etc. It's hard to find the right test that works for everyone.
I'd be curious to see if people who only lift get similar results, cause from what I've seen those people actually are limited by their lack of cardiovascular fitness.
For me personally it kinda shows that you not necessary need to do "functional fitness" to stay functional.
@@acg1189 Great interpretation! I like this response
@@lucasseuren4180 1 minute efforts are not a good way to judge cardiovascular fitness, precisely because it is anaerobic.
It mostly relies on anaerobic metabolism, which isn't directly correlated to cardiovascular fitness, before relying on the aerobic metabolism once this first system is exhausted.
Hence why the bodybuilder did good, training almost exclusively his anaerobic metabolism. His just lasted longer than others and he didn't have to tap into his aerobic metabolism as much, giving him a shorter HR recover.
I noticed in the test chart at 16:55, shouldn't "MAX HEIGHT IN INCHES" & "MAX TIME @ BW" be swapped? Great vid nonetheless!
I really liked this _Fitness 100 Australia presented by Eugene Teo_ . Where can I watch episode 2, Netflix?
It confuses me a lot, why Eugene says that strongest athletes had the worst HRR score, while the strongest athlete, bodybuilder, had the best one?
Probably meant strong in a different way. Like the "strongest" endurance athletes. As in the best endurance athletes
Literally adore your content, especially lately, this was so much fun!
This video were well made, educational and so fun to watch..!!! Thanks for the masterpiece!
"They're playing chess... and i'm.... you guys know what I mean"
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I still don'T
LET HIM COOK xddd
Awesome video, Eugene!
1-3 min sprint sets? You aren't Sprinting for that long. Trust me. I was a sprinter lol
I thought the same lol. An average person wouldn't be able to hold a true sprint for longer than 10 seconds. He should've specified the speed.
@MR12AMAZING at university we used to do 100m sprints with 60secs rest in between. I threw up after 4 lol if I was running 3 mins I'd call it jogging
Bodybuilder is definitely the MVP, very unexpectedly. His level of muscle mass is unattainable (even with gear) for pretty much everyone there, and almost everyone in the world, and still having a significant level of strength, an amazing vertical jump, obviously incredible leg press, and amazing bike performance is ridiculous. In terms of impressiveness in this challenge specifically, he was the one who impressed me the most.
"Yeah so the guy who is twice as big as everyone else combined surprised me a lot when he won"
@@enderium3253 for most of the exercises, his high body weight was actually to his detriment. All the exercises were pretty much standardized, so it's impressive that he was the most well-rounded athlete in the group.
@@enderium3253 Only 2 of the events were strength based and they both took into account weight so him being twice as big as everyone wasn't an advantage at all. Also, you can't tell me you expected him to have the highest heart rate recovery and vertical jump at his size..
He's the one doing the most gear so it makes sense
Need to monitor depth on the leg press, as it makes a huge difference
This was so much fun to watch! Cheers from Argentina Eugene :)
Zero diss, but I think balance and coordination is pivotal for a full athletic overview.
Great content, and informative… love these!
I had an amazing time doing this fitness test. I think the takeaway of this video should be that your journey is your own , and it’s great to test yourself and get out of your comfort zone 🫶✌️
Dudes were having a hard time coping with your vertical lol that was wild
@ Most people forget I did a little athletics prior to lifting weights 😅👊
Just love the video! 😊 great job I’d love to see more videos like these one
I’ve started integrating Olympic lifts and am really loving it! I want to be able to dunk a ball as a secondary goal to hypertrophy
This is a super cool idea! This gives me some great goals!
You got this bro
Aye! Thanks bro!
Love this channel!
Jaxon is the tank, dps, AND support
This was so cool to see and I learned a lot from all the explanations
Eugene, absolutely loved this concept! Small piece of feedback from a viewer experience: The audio distortion from the screaming made it hard to listen to at times.
One of your best videos, I really liked the style. It was fun and informative as always!!
So… the body builder (at least among the men) was definitely the most naturally gifted athlete of the bunch. Not trying to take away any of his or anyone else’s accomplishments, which are very impressive, but his comment about always having a good vertical sort of confirmed that he’s just built different.
7:17 im confused are you saying that if i weight 80kg and can 1RM 160kg on deadlift, I should do 80/160=0,5? isnt it the other way around?
Other way around
Suprised that the bodybuilder won 4 out of 5 challenges. Who says bodybuilders arent athletic?
3:48 holy fuck xD
Ah yes, the classic aussie 'Kangaroo Jumps' 15:47 haha
7:34 Bruh 2,5-3X BW is supposed to be Advanced and the guy who won the deadlift event by lifting 300kg or 2,5X BW barely makes it into advanced. The professional power lifter girl hit 2,4X BW is supposedly just intermediate. This estimate for how much you should pull is ass tbh.
hello hjalmar! 2,4X bodyweight is intermediate for man, but advanced for woman! You need to read the words! Happy to help sweetheart!
Some people his size are lifting +400kg, so yeah it's early advanced! Cute opinion though
@@VasardoPT Oh yeah, thanks! Missed female category. Although I do still feel I agree with my sentiment that the inteval for advanced is a little high. But I guess it depends in what context you are talking. If Elite is Literally top in the worlds then I guess the scale is fair. But for the average gym goer i feel that the intervals are high.
love this one, keep it up !
Terrific Video! I love the extra info thrown in and of course the entertainment value.
Would be cool to see some more diverse athleticism shit added in, like agility drills or who can eat a tub of passion fruit flavoured yogurt fastest
The trousers in the gym always gets me
This is great stuff, nice one
There should have been a normal fat guy take part in this as well.
Ah unfortunate but you have a small misstake in the video. At 16:55 you show the sheet of the excercises and the test but you managed to mix up the test of the dead hang vs vertical jump.
EXCERCISE: TEST:
DEAD HANG MAX HEIGHT IN INCHES
VERTICAL JUMP MAX TIME @ BW
1 min cardio was the hardest challenge he ever done in his life?? 10:18 ... Has he been in a relationship ever? 😭😂
Make video like this again. This amazing video
Seemed like many people didn't want their scores being shown. I guess it was a matter of consent or something. It's impressive to see our bodybuilder buddy getting such high results, I also figure the dead hang was one he knew wasn't gonna go well
I'm confused about the heart rate recovery section. He said that above 18 is good but he said that the heaviest athlete scored the worst. The heaviest athlete was 45, isn't that the best?
16:55, dead hang and vertical jumps results are reversed
This is a really interesting video. Eugene is such a great explainer of things. 🎓
Great idea for content
why does jaxon do a little tug before deadlifting?
Just my natural set up to get myself into the lift 🫡
this video was very nice. would be better if Eugene also participated
Should have had a calisthenics athlete there in the mix as well
The fitness test chart is a bit off. Mixed up instructions for dead hang and vertical jump.
As a 55 year old man who lifts weights and does cardio on a regular basis, I won't do a 1 rep max on anything. What would be a comparable goal for 5 reps or 10 reps?
Between 75% and 90% of 1 rep max. That's typically where 5-10 rep maxes are.
What no Bioneer…almost great at all of this!
Please collab with Andy Galpin. He preaches this
Thanks
a better test for cardio / pulmonary fitness would have been a either a timed distance to run, cycle or row or an equivalent to the coopers run test imo
Why aren't they going very deep on the leg press @6:28
Please does anyone know the full name of the guy with a short torso and long legs doing a deadlift, the only part I got from his name was “Stewart” and I am not sure it is completely correct
3D chess. You were meaning to say 3D chess
I think he was thinging of the phrase "I'm playing chess while you're playing checkers"
How df is it possible to do 3 cardio session combined with 4 weight training sessions and a normal life? 😅
jaxon is hugeee
Eugue, great video. I would love for you to check out the most underrated physical culturalist on RUclips: Will Ratelle. Dude is crazy strong AND fast. You should do an interview with him.
In regards to the app what about combat sports programs?
Is there a way to do high intensity cardio except running? I walk at least 10k every day but and am pretty fit but i wanna do some intense cardio just for the heck of it
There a lot of alternatives- from cardio machine in the gym to swimming. You dont have to run to improve ur fitness. I like to use kettlebells also
The answer is Alec Blenis.
Loved this video - not only because it was cool to get so many different types of elite athletes together, but because they were Australian and therefore just generally more fun and laid back. Nice one. Love from India 🇮🇳 ❤
I don't actually know what Arthut meant
🤣🤣
Feels like Eugene is just completely ignoring the results of the test so he can keep saying what he has pre-written down.
The body builder did the best on every test but he doesn't even talk about that at all, just continues to say we should switch from pure bodybuilding to hybrid training because that's what he did.
Had a blast filming this video Eugene! The assault bike sprint was pure chaos… no backflip after that 💀
EEEEEK! First 100. Yay! Love this coach!
In the end we don't even get the results for everyone lmao
What kind of testing is this ?
How do i know what bodytype i am for Deadlift? Iam Stuck at 160kg at a bodyweight of 95kg with a height at 173 cm 😮
Neat. 👍
maybe this thumbnail will work
that bodybuilder's voice does not match his physique
Are all big dudes meant to have super deep and aggressive voices lol.
@@MR12AMAZING im just saying man, it surprised me a little
Can you do this with age factored? Thanks
Hey man looking for a thumbnail editor?
👍
How tall is the big guy
Sumo deadlifting isn’t impressive at all
wtf am i missing something? he never actually showed the results of any of the tests and just forgets about the legpress.
If BW ratio is valid for strength tests, why doesn't it come into account the other way round in deadhangs?
It's the exact same logic, each person is deadhanging with their own weight
This only proves that steroids are hell of a drug.
Bodybuilder did not look natty, makes it pretty unfair
13y/o
53kg
178cm
Benchpress: 1.1 times bodyweight
Squat: 1.25 times bodyweight
Deadlift: 2.2 times bodyweight
wow really impressive make sure to lift with proper technique and keep getting those prs 💪
@ Yes I definitely will because I really don’t want to injure myself
13yo? Cya buddy u gonna be banned of social media
I've been saying it. The algorithm is wrong. Stop prioritizing muscle hypertrophy. Focus on strength and cardio.
Strenght equals hypertrophie
Strength has many correlations with Hypertrophy
@J-C00L-1 yeah. Better said
@@J-C00L-1 I don't disagree, but targeting one or the other is very different.
@@Angry_Lion Yes but no.
Spolier : Tom Haviland won, haha
Where are those commentors who keep saying pro-bodybuilders are just muscles with no strength? 😅 This video shows exactly why 💉💦 are banned in competitions
The steroid athlete won
And maybe some steroid athletes lose.)
A 60second effort is not a test of your aerobic capacity. This is waaaay above your threshold, so it mostly measures how well your anaerobic energy systems workk,. And maybe secondary for people not used to this level of lactate how pain tolerant you are.
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Ganbaru is a wild name
I didn’t know any of these “influencers”. But that’s fine it was still a good video.
Explosive power with a jump? I guess cleans are too hard for most people.
Because you need to learn how to clean first, and then try to express you power with these. So like yeah, they hard for most people, who never done them. And i think there is no need to be salty about that.
Cleans also test your mobility heavily.
You can lack power and get really fast under the bar in an ass to grass front squat and get a great clean that way.
Or you can us raw power and hoist the bar without even trying to get under it.
That makes for too many variables to test just one quality.
Cleans are a good tool to develop power but not so much for testing it in this context.
Cleans are very technique dependent.
Having a neck tattoo with barely any ink on your body is wild to me.
Maybe the video doesn’t do justice 😅 I got lot more than just my neck bro!
Bro why can u RDL heavier than a regular deadlift? Hip problem? lol. Weak hips ? Idk. It’s so weird
That wasn’t my 1 rep max! I was saving myself for the huge test session ahead 😅
@ replace u with I… I was talking about myself. I can rdl heavier than a regular deadlift. Why would that be? Mind you I don’t do regular deadlifts I only do rdls and the other day I was like I’ll try a regular deadlift and the weight didn’t want to get off the floor lol I don’t understand
2.4x in sumo is realistically 2x lol
Half this video is about partial-range deadlift ability. Yawn.
Sweet Jesus if you can’t have a 12” vertical you aren’t an athlete 😅 sorry that was mean
Thirst
Instead of comparing weight lifted to total body weight, it should be compared to the weight of lean muscle mass. Women stand zero chance against men because our bodies have much less muscle proportionately. The average man has about twice the lean muscle mass of the average woman, yet the average male weight is not twice that of the average female weight because of bones, water, organs, and our higher body fat percentage.
Lol it is the opposite for low body weight classes