The Big-3 upgrades make a huge difference. It revs quicker and delivers more power and torque across a wider RPM range. What more can you ask for? Can't wait to hear everyone's comments, questions and setups. Bring them on.
@@JBRAAPY most aftermarket pipe manufacturers have maps you can download for your fuel module. You can also get an Auto tuner for the Power Commander V. We would say you can probably get the best results tuning your fuel on a dyno as long as the person operating the dino is highly skilled.
Actually, we would run the fuel customs filter for sure in the dunes. They offer more protection than a K&N according to our friends at CT racing and that style of filter works better in the sand. Film filters are better 4 dust or silt the tends to hang in the air. Whichever one you need there is a filter though. Thanks for watching.
More stable, more suspension travel, and more capable of dealing with added horsepower. You've already got that Precision stabilizer. Your Raptor is going to be sick!
Awesome material guys! my buddy has a bone stock '12 700r and I'm always racing him with my piped '03 Banshee, the raptor is really powerful and we are always neck to neck, now after seeing this video I gotta convince him to get the big 3 (and I will definitely get a +4 timing, reed valve and few upgrades for my Banshee :P ), however, my Suzuki LTZ434 is a different story :)
Sounds like you have a couple of pretty sweet machines. One for the trail and one for the drag strip or Dunes. I'm sure your buddy will be very impressed with the results on his Raptor.
Awesome video guys ! I have a similar setup (empire single , FCI intake, pc5 , ) with my skat track extremes it climbs like a billy goat in the dunes !
Great vid! Tho I don’t own a raptor I’ve always liked em. I ran a PC5 & auto tune on my ‘12 ninja abt 10yrs ago…& found it to be easier to just set the target air/fuel ratio instead of trying to “build” maps. If you set the AFR the ECU will adjust to hit the AFR targets based on what the o2 sensor is reading. It worked great & no need to try & figure out less or more fuel here or there in every cell. I think 12.7 is considered an ideal (balanced) AFR…so you can set that on the entire map, & increase fuel (lower number) in the higher rpm’s for more top end instead of trying to adjust every cell
Great video 👍🏽 I have a 2013 Yamaha Raptor 700R -Lonestar Racing +2 standard travel A arms -Lonestar Racing LSR Axcalibar Extended Rear Axle -Precision Racing Elite Steering Stabilizer -Yoshimura Signature RS-2 Full Exhaust System -Fuel Customs Intake System (with air box) -Dobeck EJK Fuel Injection Controller EFI tuner The Big 3 definitely make a difference! the stability with the +2 a arms and extended axle is unbelievable!!
I guess I have to get one now for sure because I had a dream the other night that I had got a new sport quad and was so upset when I woke up and realized I didn't have a new sport quad.
I have a very similar set up on a 2015 700r SE. I used the big gun dual. On the 15-up the big gun dual requires no trimming or problems during install. Bolts on in 20 minutes or less. I also did carbon fiber bead locks. Big 3 lighter wheels 2 inches wider it’s a lot of fun to ride. Completely diff than stock. Great video 👍🏼
Love that raptor motor. Lots of hidden power. The honda 700xx had a much better ride though. With big 3 I left my buddies high comp raptor 700 in the trails. That irs was something else
@@ATVonDemand Na, never did like a re-cap video. May think about it though. Been toying with the idea of bumping the HP but thankfully keep talking myself out of it. Don't need it, but more HP is always fun. I just hate to do anything to the engine as it is super reliable and low maintenance.
@@Team2Gils CT racing says they have an engine kit that puts out 72 horsepower reliably so it's hard to imagine any loss and reliability with external bolt-ons alone. Actually, richening up the fuel mixture will probably help it run cooler. We like to be added top end but we could just lug it like we did stock and in fact it was better down low.
@@jeffaquilino1806 been looking at the CT Racing head and cam package, also, Cuervo Racing specializes in Raptors so it would be worth talking with him on options as well. Not interested in dyno numbers however, would need increased in low and mid range. So far, I have successfully done nothing 🙂
I had a 660. There is no comparison to the 700, power, handling, ergos are so different. I felt my 660 was really tippy and slow. The 660 aged quickly in my opinion. I guess Yamaha thought the same thing
Thank you so much. You think our content is so good it looks like a commercial? What a compliment. Honestly though, we weren't paid anything for doing this video.
i'm pretty sure a Stage 3 cam is more of a top end cam and we're not trying to build a drag machine. We've heard a mild cam and a little more compassion makes a noticeable difference but with 53-54 HP we'll gain more speed if we turn our attention back to improving handling. A ZPS shock setup to lower the quad a little will help it get through the turns quicker. Perhaps at that point.
I would absolutely love to have dual exhaust and the look is totally awesome but I don’t wanna have to mess with the plastic in any way to make them fit
I've got a trx700 that i'm planning on putting the same big 3 on, just with a different fuel controller. I feel like I'd mess up having so much adjustability as pcv. Im getting one that comes pre optimized for the barkers exhaust and intake. Also I don't plan on widening it. 45 inches means I can ride tighter stuff with my friends on bikes.
Big 3 plus a cam puts them in the low 60s hp to the wheels, around the same as a ported and piped banshee, but more torque. Pretty impressive considering the raptor isn’t ported.
Awesome video!! I have a similar set up on my 08 raptor 700r, wider a-arms, axle, elka shocks all around and the big 3 combo as well! Next you will need aftermarket handlebars and nerf bars, it really helps when driving them aggresively!
@@jacobocampo9824 protaper fatbars dont really remember the suze but search it on ebay they a ton for cheap and get the risers as well other wise its too low
Is An Yamaha yfz.450 not more suitable for offroad racing? Since it is mean factory as an race quad? I also heard that an raptor 700 only has 46 hp and the yfz round the same number. I'm new in the sport and would like advice😃
The YFZ is closer to race ready in stock trim for motocross, and desert racing. It would be a better choice for high level cross country racing, B class and up. The Raptor comes at a suitable width for cross country racing. Its power comes on much sooner and is smoother across the RPM range. We think a Raptor could be a good XC weapon with a few small changes for beginners or vet racers. The Raptor has won the Dakar Rally more than once is would be a fat better choice for endurance racing like that. Both machines will be in the low to mid 50 hp range with intakes, exhausts, and fuel tuners. The YFZ450R revs faster but the Raptor has a ton more torque. The YFZR's engine and suspension prefer going fast while the Raptor is happy to rip down a trail or go for a casual cruise. If you start jumping big the Raptor finds the limits of its suspension sooner while the Raptor is plusher over rocks, roots and other trail junk. We hope this helps and if you have any more questions for specific uses please feel free to hit us back.
I noticed some of you guys a bit bigger and I’m pushing 300 lbs looking at getting a 2022 Raptor 700r se. I have looked at Polaris options but want a true sport quad. Thoughts on suspension issues. First manual quad and newer rider won’t be hitting jumps or dunes anytime soon just trail
The stock suspension will carry you until you start jumping or trying to cover whooped out to rain at high speed. At some point when you're fast enough you may want to send the shocks off to an aftermarket suspension company who can put new Valving and Springs on the shocks for your specific weight. There are a number of companies out there that can help you with that when you reach that point. We don't blame you for wanting a sport quad that's what we own and ride ourselves. If you have any more questions please sit as back. Welcome to the family.
Reach out to fuel customs and pick their brains. Ask for Garrett tell him we sent you for some advice. We did not discuss the Empire exhaust but he may have an opinion on them.
@@jeffaquilino1806 I have the empire single exhaust, fitment was perfect other than needing a longer bolt for the exhaust bracket, they also have a flanged connection to the pipe with a gasket , no leaks! Check out Quervo racing here on RUclips where he dyno ran it along with some competitors.
@@jeffaquilino1806 I’d say there is more flow from the empire , from the header to the pipe it steps up diameter twice whereas the rossiere is the same size throughout
I’m kind of stuck between deciding if I want a renegade 1000 xxc or a raptor. Since you’ve tested both can you tell me the pros and cons of both? Thank you.
We need to do a video on this and we will. Here's the short answer. Raptor 700R, Pros, lighter, more nimble, rider has more control over the machine, easier and more fun to jump, better in whooped out terrain, better duner, better on a MX track, most likely faster on typical twisty wooded trails, easier to work on, no CVT belt, will break less if you ride it hard, less expensive to buy, will most likely hurt you less if you wind up underneath it. Renegade Pros, 4wd, better mudder, better rock crawler, more ground clearance, maybe a little faster in a drag race, fast and fun on twisty trails, a little easier to ride but not for beginners, it's 4x4 class legal for XC racing, no clutch to cook for prolonged low speed riding although you WILL need to run the Renegade in low range to protect the belt. It seems like the list is a bit longer for the Raptor but if you are interested in doing more of that the Renegade excels at its the better choice. Now, for a similar price as the Raptor, Can-Am makes a Renegade 570 in case you weren't aware. Any further questions, hit us back.
@@ATVonDemand thank you. Also your definitely one of the most underrated channels I’ve come across. It’s a shame the off-road hobby is becoming less popular :(
What year is yo9ur Raptor? Do you have the map installed in your PCV for the Barker's exhaust and Fuel Customs intake? Starting with Fuel Customs map in our PC5 here are the changes we hade to the map to fix the backfiring and stalling. ruclips.net/video/CKGP0XdWfg0/видео.html
@@tombudziak3107 I repeat Yamaha has not changed the bike in years. You can ride a 2014 and hop on a 2021 they will ride and feel the exact same if they are both stock. They only thing they change on them is the graphics.... that's it.😂
@@LolliWANG505 they litterally make 55hp factory now cause they don’t have to meet California emissions and they added some more clearance to the bike from what I could find
It's basically a shock absorber for the steering. They don't have much effect on how stiff the steering is but abrupt impacts that would jerk the bars out of your hands or just simply transfer a spike load into your arms are dampened. Your suspension has Springs along with oil and valves that dampen how quickly the shocks can compress and rebound. Think of your arms as the Springs in the steering and the steering damper as as the hydraulics that only let the bars turn so fast. You will never turn the bars by hand as quickly as an impact with a rock, root, or tree. Even smaller impacts from breaking bumps that impact one front wheel more than the other are greatly filtered out. We have no working relationship with any of the damper companies and will tell you honestly given The choice we would not ride a sport quad without one.
@@ATVonDemand I've owned an 86 honda 250r a 07honda 450 and I still own a 06ltr 450 and I tell ya this the 250 by far was the best all around quad..hills, track, drag, and woods...BTW IF YOU KNOW ANYONE AROUND SOUTH CAROLINA THE LTE IS FOR SALE AND ITS COMPLETELY REDONE POWDER COATED AND ALL JUST LACKS LITTLE THINGS LIKE STICKERS ETC
If wheelies are all you're after you could probably stick with the 660. If you want an engine that will hold up better to power upgrades and has far superior handling then you would like to 700.
I love my raptor. I did air box power commander and puld baffles out of original exhaust and remapped.plenty enuf power.size of your nuts counts alot..warning.du not let your uncappable friends any where near it...
The Fuel Custom's intake with airbox retails for $325.00, Barker Dual exhausts are $816.00 and the Dynojet Power Commander V is $375.99. We can't quote a labor price for labor. Check with your dealer or mechanic.
I did the big 3 on my 18 raptor 700r with no experience whatsoever. The place i ordered the powercommander 5 from had it premapped for my fci intake and my big gun dual exhaust. Air intake was a slight pain but everything else was a breeze.
Why dual exhaust? There not as good of a power gain when compared to a single exhaust like rossier or monster. Of course this only applys to 2015 and up single port exhaust.
From what we have been told, the duals have an advantage in the dual exhaust port models in top-end power and overrev. No doubt low end was improved as well. That being said, if we wanted the broadest powerband it seemed like the Barkers were a good way to go. Yes, there are other good pipes out there.
Fuels Custom's wanted us to test with the Barkers for best results in our test. They obviously wanted us to have the best results possible and he has tested a LOT of exhausts on his dyno so We'd go with the Barkers over the BigGun based on his recommendations and how impressively our machine ran.
Parts prices and links are all available here. www.atvondemand.com/yamaha-raptor-700r-big-3-engine-upgrades-barkers-exhaust-fuel-customs-intake-and-dynojet-pc5-test/
@@mohammadsaranjam6115 the newer one has a tiny bit more compression. On the 2015 and up. Top speed will be very similar on both. I doubt there are many places you need to go over 70 miles an hour. Seriously.
For playing with your friends on a small track, sure. For trying a couple of races on a relatively forgiving track, yes. If you are a young racer and there is a youth class that will allow you to race a 250cc machine then it is a machine you can learn on. For serious racing at any level there are better options. For any class up to 300 cc's we would go with an old Honda TRX250X or 300EX. We have seen 300 4-stroke classes allow up to 200cc 2 Strokes which would allow you to race a blaster. Four classes up to 400 CCs a Suzuki Z400 or Kawasaki KFX 400 would be our first picks. If it were 450 or up we would be racing a Yamaha because parts are easy to come by and they have Proven Winners in all disciplines of racing. All of the aforementioned models still have lots of aftermarket options fir engine, chassis and suspension. Unfortunately, there are not a lot of options out there for the Mojave. Cool machine though. The Mojave was the 4-stroke ATV that dethroned the Suzuki quadsport lt230 as the top four stroke sport quad in the mid-eighties.
If you like your 400ex and you just want better suspension with more power. But a clean used trx450. I grew up on 400s and now have 2 trx450s. The 450 is just an upgraded 400. The raptor has reverse. But it’s not a Honda. Those 5 letters in Honda are worth every penny
@@donschaefer9442 yea ive wanted a 450 forever but i want the ones with electric start and 8 more horse power. Everyone around me sell the 04 and 05 with the headlight taken out and plastic changed. I need a headlight because i trail ride. Ill probably keep look for a trx450 because im loyal to honda but i was just wonder what everyone thought about the raptor
@@donschaefer9442 sorry for long comment. But im also looking at a not so know beast. The honda trx700xx. For me im getting a trx700 or a trx450. My dad has a xx already and they are torque machines
@@mysteryman3255 The trx700 are nice. But that rear suspension gets expensive. When I was your age I rode everyday and could barley keep gas in the quad. The 450s have a lot of aftermarket support. My 2008 trx450 has over 500 hours on it and I did a clutch and the valves
I've taken my 700 with big 3 on the mx track a few times. I think I'm doing good until a 450r or yfz comes on, then I realize how big and fat that thing is.
The Big-3 upgrades make a huge difference. It revs quicker and delivers more power and torque across a wider RPM range. What more can you ask for? Can't wait to hear everyone's comments, questions and setups. Bring them on.
Do you need to put quad on dyno to tune it correctly?
@@JBRAAPY most aftermarket pipe manufacturers have maps you can download for your fuel module. You can also get an Auto tuner for the Power Commander V. We would say you can probably get the best results tuning your fuel on a dyno as long as the person operating the dino is highly skilled.
@@ATVonDemand can you do a video like this for the yfz450r?
same for a raptor 660.... you go from about 35hp to close to 50hp, with the right jetting and exhaust. very noticeable.
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You guys definitely gave this bike the love it deserves, 12% more fuel added, really shows how choked down they come from factory.
This makes me feel like I’m not the only one trying to race a Raptor! ❤️
We are surprised more people don't try racing them.
Yeah they're just really popular in the Dakar rally that's it lol
Great trail/dune machine, but it isnt a race quad
@@teamwoodswarriorsracing2004 It is if you slap a number plate on it and sack up! lol
we do race raptors custom heads and turbocharger will do more than just wake it up lol
Please please PLEASE make more videos on the Raptor 700R! Love the Raptor content!!!!
Y E S !
Great tip on the uni filter , more assurance in the dunes , thanks guys !
Actually, we would run the fuel customs filter for sure in the dunes. They offer more protection than a K&N according to our friends at CT racing and that style of filter works better in the sand. Film filters are better 4 dust or silt the tends to hang in the air. Whichever one you need there is a filter though. Thanks for watching.
You’ve got me convinced...I’m widening this thing and getting the Big 3! Another awesome vid of some Raptor porn
You will not regret the big 3 and making her wider
Trust me 💯
More stable, more suspension travel, and more capable of dealing with added horsepower. You've already got that Precision stabilizer. Your Raptor is going to be sick!
Awesome material guys! my buddy has a bone stock '12 700r and I'm always racing him with my piped '03 Banshee, the raptor is really powerful and we are always neck to neck, now after seeing this video I gotta convince him to get the big 3 (and I will definitely get a +4 timing, reed valve and few upgrades for my Banshee :P ), however, my Suzuki LTZ434 is a different story :)
Sounds like you have a couple of pretty sweet machines. One for the trail and one for the drag strip or Dunes. I'm sure your buddy will be very impressed with the results on his Raptor.
That intro sliding through the corner doing a willy what a beast
Thanks!
Awesome video guys ! I have a similar setup (empire single , FCI intake, pc5 , ) with my skat track extremes it climbs like a billy goat in the dunes !
Great set up! We are sure it does.
Great vid!
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it.
Great vid! Tho I don’t own a raptor I’ve always liked em. I ran a PC5 & auto tune on my ‘12 ninja abt 10yrs ago…& found it to be easier to just set the target air/fuel ratio instead of trying to “build” maps. If you set the AFR the ECU will adjust to hit the AFR targets based on what the o2 sensor is reading. It worked great & no need to try & figure out less or more fuel here or there in every cell. I think 12.7 is considered an ideal (balanced) AFR…so you can set that on the entire map, & increase fuel (lower number) in the higher rpm’s for more top end instead of trying to adjust every cell
Great video 👍🏽
I have a 2013 Yamaha Raptor 700R
-Lonestar Racing +2 standard travel A arms
-Lonestar Racing LSR Axcalibar Extended Rear Axle
-Precision Racing Elite Steering Stabilizer
-Yoshimura Signature RS-2 Full Exhaust System
-Fuel Customs Intake System (with air box)
-Dobeck EJK Fuel Injection Controller EFI tuner
The Big 3 definitely make a difference!
the stability with the +2 a arms and extended axle is unbelievable!!
You have a sweet Raptor. Thanks for watching and sharing your setup.
@@ATVonDemand Thank you!
I appreciate your very informative videos!
Keep up the good work!!!
Great as usual... 👍👍👍
Thanks Doc. We always appreciate that you show up for premieres.
I guess I have to get one now for sure because I had a dream the other night that I had got a new sport quad and was so upset when I woke up and realized I didn't have a new sport quad.
Do it! It's a sign.
I had that dream also then your mom woke me up
@@1212poohs She been passed away about 20 years now.
@@crazyflyboy30 sorry
This makes me wanna get my duals even more now. Gotta quit dumping money into trucks and give the raptor some more love. 😂
Had myself a 06 raptor 660r. Loved it till I had kids. Thinking of going back to it. Possibly the 700r. Cheers.
Don't get us wrong, this 660 was a lot of fun but you'll like this 700 even more.
I have a very similar set up on a 2015 700r SE. I used the big gun dual. On the 15-up the big gun dual requires no trimming or problems during install. Bolts on in 20 minutes or less. I also did carbon fiber bead locks. Big 3 lighter wheels 2 inches wider it’s a lot of fun to ride. Completely diff than stock. Great video 👍🏼
Glad you liked the video. Thanks for sharing your setup. Your Raptor sounds like a runner.
Love that raptor motor. Lots of hidden power. The honda 700xx had a much better ride though. With big 3 I left my buddies high comp raptor 700 in the trails. That irs was something else
Yes, it's too bad it didn't catch on.
I was the proud owner of a 700xx for ten years but it was getting too difficult to get parts , so I turned to the raptor
Wow I've never heard of the Honda xx had to look it up. I've been out of the Atv scene a while. Thanks for that tidbit
They have aftermarket turbochargers ,and racing slick tires and 5 spoke star rims for it which makes it mean looking
Yeah, things things are so choked from the factory, a simple big 3 really adds the HP. Nice simple way to wake em up for sure.
Certainly made an impressive difference. Do you have a video that lists everything you've done to your Raptor?
@@ATVonDemand Na, never did like a re-cap video. May think about it though. Been toying with the idea of bumping the HP but thankfully keep talking myself out of it. Don't need it, but more HP is always fun. I just hate to do anything to the engine as it is super reliable and low maintenance.
@@Team2Gils CT racing says they have an engine kit that puts out 72 horsepower reliably so it's hard to imagine any loss and reliability with external bolt-ons alone. Actually, richening up the fuel mixture will probably help it run cooler. We like to be added top end but we could just lug it like we did stock and in fact it was better down low.
@@Team2Gils what are you considering
@@jeffaquilino1806 been looking at the CT Racing head and cam package, also, Cuervo Racing specializes in Raptors so it would be worth talking with him on options as well. Not interested in dyno numbers however, would need increased in low and mid range. So far, I have successfully done nothing 🙂
Every time I watch one of your Raptor 700 videos it makes me want to sell my 660 and go buy one. Some day 👍👍
Have you ridden a 700?
I’ve just ridden a 660
I had a 660. There is no comparison to the 700, power, handling, ergos are so different. I felt my 660 was really tippy and slow. The 660 aged quickly in my opinion. I guess Yamaha thought the same thing
@@ATVonDemand not yet but some day lol
Todd Merriott word now I gotta hop for a quick rip on a 700
i was sad i missed this because i was watching a hangin w bangin premier at the same time
Well we're glad you came back and checked it out
Litteraly watched that video before this one too 😂
Sport quad content = automatic like
We would like to do more of it.
@@ATVonDemand yeah sad to see the factorys drop sport quads :(
One of the best commercials trying not to be a commercial I have seen...
Thank you so much. You think our content is so good it looks like a commercial? What a compliment. Honestly though, we weren't paid anything for doing this video.
@@ATVonDemand - Great vid either way :)
I can’t wait to start modding my new raptor. You guys should add a Hot cams stage 3 I herd that picks up good power everywhere
i'm pretty sure a Stage 3 cam is more of a top end cam and we're not trying to build a drag machine. We've heard a mild cam and a little more compassion makes a noticeable difference but with 53-54 HP we'll gain more speed if we turn our attention back to improving handling. A ZPS shock setup to lower the quad a little will help it get through the turns quicker. Perhaps at that point.
@@ATVonDemand okay from my understanding the 3 will do everything the 2 does down low but be better all around
@@jeffaquilino1806 I think the 2 is the best general performance increase. Mr.cuervo dynoed a stage 3 and it made less down low than stock.
I would absolutely love to have dual exhaust and the look is totally awesome but I don’t wanna have to mess with the plastic in any way to make them fit
It's a very small amount of plastic that has to be trimmed . We were a little annoyed at first though so we get where you're coming from.
I've got a trx700 that i'm planning on putting the same big 3 on, just with a different fuel controller. I feel like I'd mess up having so much adjustability as pcv. Im getting one that comes pre optimized for the barkers exhaust and intake. Also I don't plan on widening it. 45 inches means I can ride tighter stuff with my friends on bikes.
Sounds like you'll be killing it on the tight trails.
I miss my 700xx sometimes!
This thing is awesome!!! I haven’t been able to find the race tech kit that was used for this though, does anyone have a link to it?
They need to update their site. Give them a call. We imagine it's still available.
Can’t wait 😄
Neither can we.
Big 3 plus a cam puts them in the low 60s hp to the wheels, around the same as a ported and piped banshee, but more torque. Pretty impressive considering the raptor isn’t ported.
Yes, we have heard that a little higher compression piston in a good cam makes a big difference after the big 3.
Best mod I ever did on my trx 400 was stage 2 hotcams
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Yamaha #1 ..love my '21 Raptor 700R-SE & '11 YFZ450. Can't beat em. #savesportquads
Yeah we are certainly happy they are keeping sport ATVs going
💯the quad in the world😘
Glad you like it.
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how to flash this map in my ecu ?(cdi) yamaha raptor 700r 2008year
I got the big 3 on my 2019 with a monster pipe 😁
Sweet
I've had a few but my 660r is my most missed. Been looking though.
There are a lot of 660s out there still. It's amazing what they're still selling for. People like big Thumpers.
Paid 2500 for a 05 660 up in n.y
Great video! i HAVE MADE THE BIG 3 upgrades. what map did you use and modify? i cant find it on dynojets maps? thanks!!
Congratulations. I believe we got our map from Fuel Customs.
Does barker pre download their tune on the pcv?
Awesome video!! I have a similar set up on my 08 raptor 700r, wider a-arms, axle, elka shocks all around and the big 3 combo as well!
Next you will need aftermarket handlebars and nerf bars, it really helps when driving them aggresively!
We're really happy you liked the video. There will be more mods to come.
If you still remember what size bars did you get for you 700 mines an 08 too
@@jacobocampo9824 protaper fatbars dont really remember the suze but search it on ebay they a ton for cheap and get the risers as well other wise its too low
Is An Yamaha yfz.450 not more suitable for offroad racing? Since it is mean factory as an race quad? I also heard that an raptor 700 only has 46 hp and the yfz round the same number.
I'm new in the sport and would like advice😃
The YFZ is closer to race ready in stock trim for motocross, and desert racing. It would be a better choice for high level cross country racing, B class and up. The Raptor comes at a suitable width for cross country racing. Its power comes on much sooner and is smoother across the RPM range. We think a Raptor could be a good XC weapon with a few small changes for beginners or vet racers. The Raptor has won the Dakar Rally more than once is would be a fat better choice for endurance racing like that.
Both machines will be in the low to mid 50 hp range with intakes, exhausts, and fuel tuners. The YFZ450R revs faster but the Raptor has a ton more torque. The YFZR's engine and suspension prefer going fast while the Raptor is happy to rip down a trail or go for a casual cruise. If you start jumping big the Raptor finds the limits of its suspension sooner while the Raptor is plusher over rocks, roots and other trail junk.
We hope this helps and if you have any more questions for specific uses please feel free to hit us back.
You guys need to do this again with the 15 and up model
Yes we do.
Please do.
Sweet video! Even tho I'm a Z400 owner lol
Love the Suzuki Z400 even though I'm a raptor owner😁
I noticed some of you guys a bit bigger and I’m pushing 300 lbs looking at getting a 2022 Raptor 700r se. I have looked at Polaris options but want a true sport quad. Thoughts on suspension issues. First manual quad and newer rider won’t be hitting jumps or dunes anytime soon just trail
The stock suspension will carry you until you start jumping or trying to cover whooped out to rain at high speed. At some point when you're fast enough you may want to send the shocks off to an aftermarket suspension company who can put new Valving and Springs on the shocks for your specific weight. There are a number of companies out there that can help you with that when you reach that point. We don't blame you for wanting a sport quad that's what we own and ride ourselves. If you have any more questions please sit as back. Welcome to the family.
@@ATVonDemand thanks for the fast response. I know a buddy with a Yamaha 450 and he is helping with everything. Can’t wait to ride.
Should i void my warranty for the big 3 ??
I was the 1000 like
You should make a Yamaha banshee video please
Looked at marketplace this morning, $6,500 for a mint Banshee. We'll start taking donations.
2020 raptor 700r with yoshi exhaust and pcm 5. It’s rips! Frickin love the power
Heck yeah!
Whats the ticket to do these upgrades???
I keep going back in forth with either barker duals or empire duels. Then I say keep it simple and do a Rossier single lol everyday I change my mind
Reach out to fuel customs and pick their brains. Ask for Garrett tell him we sent you for some advice. We did not discuss the Empire exhaust but he may have an opinion on them.
@@ATVonDemand He definitely knows his stuff does lots of testing
@@jeffaquilino1806 I have the empire single exhaust, fitment was perfect other than needing a longer bolt for the exhaust bracket, they also have a flanged connection to the pipe with a gasket , no leaks! Check out Quervo racing here on RUclips where he dyno ran it along with some competitors.
@@raptordan6851 Definitely a nice looking exhaust I’d like to see how it compares to the Rossier
@@jeffaquilino1806 I’d say there is more flow from the empire , from the header to the pipe it steps up diameter twice whereas the rossiere is the same size throughout
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I’m kind of stuck between deciding if I want a renegade 1000 xxc or a raptor. Since you’ve tested both can you tell me the pros and cons of both? Thank you.
We need to do a video on this and we will. Here's the short answer.
Raptor 700R, Pros, lighter, more nimble, rider has more control over the machine, easier and more fun to jump, better in whooped out terrain, better duner, better on a MX track, most likely faster on typical twisty wooded trails, easier to work on, no CVT belt, will break less if you ride it hard, less expensive to buy, will most likely hurt you less if you wind up underneath it.
Renegade Pros, 4wd, better mudder, better rock crawler, more ground clearance, maybe a little faster in a drag race, fast and fun on twisty trails, a little easier to ride but not for beginners, it's 4x4 class legal for XC racing, no clutch to cook for prolonged low speed riding although you WILL need to run the Renegade in low range to protect the belt.
It seems like the list is a bit longer for the Raptor but if you are interested in doing more of that the Renegade excels at its the better choice. Now, for a similar price as the Raptor, Can-Am makes a Renegade 570 in case you weren't aware.
Any further questions, hit us back.
@@ATVonDemand thank you. Also your definitely one of the most underrated channels I’ve come across. It’s a shame the off-road hobby is becoming less popular :(
Do you guys know if a fmf exhaust are loud on a raptor 700r?
That would be a good question for FMF but we are pretty sure they have some sound conscious exhausts.
how much for the big three?
So I have this set up and get backfire like you had mentioned..can you give me the map guide to as just this?
What year is yo9ur Raptor? Do you have the map installed in your PCV for the Barker's exhaust and Fuel Customs intake? Starting with Fuel Customs map in our PC5 here are the changes we hade to the map to fix the backfiring and stalling. ruclips.net/video/CKGP0XdWfg0/видео.html
2018 and yes I suave dual barkers,with fuel custom intake and the pc5
The best upgrade I made for mine was putting a R1 motor in it.
Sounds like it would be good at going really fast on flat straight ground
You guys should review the 2021 raptors and yfz450r on a track
No need they did the same test years ago and Yamaha has not changed either of the quads for over 7 years now so...
Here's the link ruclips.net/video/B9S6Q2KQSIA/видео.html
@@LolliWANG505 2021 yfz450r makes 55hp now and has some extra changes
@@tombudziak3107 I repeat Yamaha has not changed the bike in years. You can ride a 2014 and hop on a 2021 they will ride and feel the exact same if they are both stock. They only thing they change on them is the graphics.... that's it.😂
@@LolliWANG505 they litterally make 55hp factory now cause they don’t have to meet California emissions and they added some more clearance to the bike from what I could find
Monster pipes, fci, and pc5/mad you can make upwards of 55 hp
Sweet. Pretty sure that's on the 2015 and up right?
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Glad you like.
What does the steering stabilizer actually do?
It's basically a shock absorber for the steering. They don't have much effect on how stiff the steering is but abrupt impacts that would jerk the bars out of your hands or just simply transfer a spike load into your arms are dampened. Your suspension has Springs along with oil and valves that dampen how quickly the shocks can compress and rebound. Think of your arms as the Springs in the steering and the steering damper as as the hydraulics that only let the bars turn so fast. You will never turn the bars by hand as quickly as an impact with a rock, root, or tree. Even smaller impacts from breaking bumps that impact one front wheel more than the other are greatly filtered out. We have no working relationship with any of the damper companies and will tell you honestly given The choice we would not ride a sport quad without one.
😳😳 the face you make when the 250r guys enter the chat
Not really. They're nice. Would love to have one.
@@ATVonDemand I've owned an 86 honda 250r a 07honda 450 and I still own a 06ltr 450 and I tell ya this the 250 by far was the best all around quad..hills, track, drag, and woods...BTW IF YOU KNOW ANYONE AROUND SOUTH CAROLINA THE LTE IS FOR SALE AND ITS COMPLETELY REDONE POWDER COATED AND ALL JUST LACKS LITTLE THINGS LIKE STICKERS ETC
Is the 700 worth it? I have a 660 and I want to do longer wheelies lol
If wheelies are all you're after you could probably stick with the 660. If you want an engine that will hold up better to power upgrades and has far superior handling then you would like to 700.
I love my raptor. I did air box power commander and puld baffles out of original exhaust and remapped.plenty enuf power.size of your nuts counts alot..warning.du not let your uncappable friends any where near it...
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It would be nice if you could actually purchase a Raptor these days. The shortage sucks! Great video though.
Dave Trimble who rode in this video is looking for a YFZ450R new in a dealership and can't find one. Strange times.
@@ATVonDemand I'm in PA and I've seen YFZ450R's, but no Raptors. Odd times for sure. Hopefully it helps respawn the sport quad segment again.
Cost for everything? Labor included please? Thinking about adding these mods to my 2018
The Fuel Custom's intake with airbox retails for $325.00, Barker Dual exhausts are $816.00 and the Dynojet Power Commander V is $375.99. We can't quote a labor price for labor. Check with your dealer or mechanic.
@@ATVonDemand thank you what about the chassis modifications you guys mentioned?
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I did the big 3 on my 18 raptor 700r with no experience whatsoever. The place i ordered the powercommander 5 from had it premapped for my fci intake and my big gun dual exhaust. Air intake was a slight pain but everything else was a breeze.
Why dual exhaust? There not as good of a power gain when compared to a single exhaust like rossier or monster. Of course this only applys to 2015 and up single port exhaust.
From what we have been told, the duals have an advantage in the dual exhaust port models in top-end power and overrev. No doubt low end was improved as well. That being said, if we wanted the broadest powerband it seemed like the Barkers were a good way to go. Yes, there are other good pipes out there.
What is better Dual barker or dual big gun ?
Fuels Custom's wanted us to test with the Barkers for best results in our test. They obviously wanted us to have the best results possible and he has tested a LOT of exhausts on his dyno so We'd go with the Barkers over the BigGun based on his recommendations and how impressively our machine ran.
Monster exhaust gives it pretty good power, in my opinion best exhaust for it
We have heard good things about them.
But did you do the AIS DELETE ?
No. It is not necessary on pre 2015 models.
What’s the cost of the upgrades as listed here
Parts prices and links are all available here.
www.atvondemand.com/yamaha-raptor-700r-big-3-engine-upgrades-barkers-exhaust-fuel-customs-intake-and-dynojet-pc5-test/
If youre not racing, you dont need all 3. Just get new skid plates, caser and z link chain.
can someone tell me if the 2008 raptor 700 has the same speed as the newer one
I don't think so. In like 2013 or something they made some changes to the motor to squeeze more power out of it.
@@justinmochi7323 oh ok thanks
so the newer one is better
@@mohammadsaranjam6115 the newer one has a tiny bit more compression. On the 2015 and up. Top speed will be very similar on both. I doubt there are many places you need to go over 70 miles an hour. Seriously.
This video would of been cool 4 years ago
Just because you saw something four years ago doesn't mean it's not new to someone else.😎
It seems that everybody else thinks this video is cool now
do you recommend a mojave 250 for mx?
For playing with your friends on a small track, sure. For trying a couple of races on a relatively forgiving track, yes. If you are a young racer and there is a youth class that will allow you to race a 250cc machine then it is a machine you can learn on. For serious racing at any level there are better options. For any class up to 300 cc's we would go with an old Honda TRX250X or 300EX. We have seen 300 4-stroke classes allow up to 200cc 2 Strokes which would allow you to race a blaster. Four classes up to 400 CCs a Suzuki Z400 or Kawasaki KFX 400 would be our first picks. If it were 450 or up we would be racing a Yamaha because parts are easy to come by and they have Proven Winners in all disciplines of racing. All of the aforementioned models still have lots of aftermarket options fir engine, chassis and suspension. Unfortunately, there are not a lot of options out there for the Mojave. Cool machine though. The Mojave was the 4-stroke ATV that dethroned the Suzuki quadsport lt230 as the top four stroke sport quad in the mid-eighties.
@@ATVonDemand thanks bro
I am 15 and I ride a 400ex but i was looking to get another machine is this worth it compared to other machines?
Nothing else out there like it you will not be disappointed
If you like your 400ex and you just want better suspension with more power. But a clean used trx450. I grew up on 400s and now have 2 trx450s. The 450 is just an upgraded 400. The raptor has reverse. But it’s not a Honda. Those 5 letters in Honda are worth every penny
@@donschaefer9442 yea ive wanted a 450 forever but i want the ones with electric start and 8 more horse power. Everyone around me sell the 04 and 05 with the headlight taken out and plastic changed. I need a headlight because i trail ride. Ill probably keep look for a trx450 because im loyal to honda but i was just wonder what everyone thought about the raptor
@@donschaefer9442 sorry for long comment. But im also looking at a not so know beast. The honda trx700xx. For me im getting a trx700 or a trx450. My dad has a xx already and they are torque machines
@@mysteryman3255 The trx700 are nice. But that rear suspension gets expensive. When I was your age I rode everyday and could barley keep gas in the quad. The 450s have a lot of aftermarket support. My 2008 trx450 has over 500 hours on it and I did a clutch and the valves
Time for yamaha to make the 700se with a 6 speed gearbox
Why do you feel it needs it?
If you decided to do the turbo upgrade the engine calls for the 6th gear and it'll be more fuel efficient and smoother when cruising on tarmac
Yfz’s are actually a lot more smooth with their power
Absolutely false.
I've taken my 700 with big 3 on the mx track a few times. I think I'm doing good until a 450r or yfz comes on, then I realize how big and fat that thing is.
450s have more of a handling advantage. Not so much in the power department. That's why we widened our Raptor before we performed one power upgrade.
Barkers are damn good but it’s been proven monster puts out more horsepower
How much noise, what state of tune? Not debating it but there are many factors. We hear that those are great exhausts
Where are you located
Cincinnati Ohio.
I need a address to where you are located and do you shipp
Georgia
sounds nice... until i pull up with a 80hp banshee engine in a yfz.... lol... A man can dream right?
For sure.
Got all these up grades on my Rapper....... Haven't rode the baby for 18 months......... Gonna rip the shit out of it come summer.
Get out there and rip it!
Yessss Sir indeed. Much love from Manchester England.
I make custom safety plates carbon fiber and aluminumif anyone is interested
Do you mean plates that replace the safety warnings?
@@ATVonDemand yep
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too much money spent on a raptor 700 so it can handle like a yfz450r just go with a yfz450r add exhaust and intake with a tune and enjoy yourself
Better for some not for others. Some people just prefer the power delivery of the raptor. A little faster, way more torque and easier to ride.