Christopher Wendle k clarification screwball thrown by a right handed pitcher falls but falls toward the right handed hitter just like sinker. is that easy enough?
***** Yeah, but he thew his at like 100 mph. Gyroball, imo, is nothing more than a fastball with abnormal movement. You can achieve the same results without wrecking your arm by using a 2-seam fastball.
Ashish Shaik Enamoto’s isn’t a fake per se it’s just not as polished and scary as the other two that’s why he has so many other pitches so he can cover his weaknesses. It’s like if he had middle school Goro’s gyroball but couldn’t make it any stronger due to different factors
This pitch isn't really all that complicated as they make it sound here. I had a friend who's used to go to this guy tezukus baseball camps in Japan way back as far as 2001 way before Matsuzaka even went to Boston. My friends dad was best friends with tezuka and was also my pitching coach. I learned this pitch at a young age and was taught that it had 2 purposes. Purpose 1 was to give the illusion of a breaking ball but never quite breaking. And purpose 2 was to kill the backspin on balls that had been hit by the batter on the lower section of the ball so you can cut down the distance the ball travels resulting in giving up less homeruns. Essentially with this pitch the hitter has to make solid contact with your pitch and earn there doubles and homeruns. Nothing more nothing less.
Mike Krukow an ex mlb pitcher and broadcaster for the SF Giants has a great term for the gyro ball( which gives the illusion of a breaking ball that ends up not breaking)In reality it’s when someone hangs a slider. He calls it the cement mixer. It just spins and goes slow and straight. Usually it gets cranked by the batter. People. There are no new pitches. You’ve got a fastball; 4 seam, 2 seam and a cutter. One that goes right , left or straight. Pitches that look like a fast ball but fool you in being slower ( Chang up and split) sliders and curve balls; the same pitch with different amounts of break and speed. A screwball which isnt thrown anymore because a 2 seam change up or good split does the same thing. A knuckle ball that has no spin and breaks unpredictability. And an Ephus; a curve or lobbed pitch around 45-60 mph to throw off the batters timing and perception. That’s it. If anyone wants to mention a rising fastball that’s a 4 seam because it has the most backspin and doesn’t rise it just doesn’t sink on the downward path of the pitcher down the mound. It’s flat but appears to rise in relation to the mound slope.
It’s not a pitch worth making a new name for since we already have the term for a pitch with similar release,movement and spin which is “gyro slider”. Even Matsuzaka wont confirm it. The footage I saw of his “gyroball” vary so much, sometimes its like a cutter, gyro slider, sometimes it even has the movement of a changeup. It seems to me that it really is just Matsuzaka’s mistake slider, when he messes up the spin of the slider it can turn into so many different pitches. One thing for sure though is that its not a screwball. The motion is different for a screwball since its supposed to spin the other way around like a changeup or a gyro slider thats spinning counter-clockwise as a right handed pitcher.
We've been throwing risers with wiffle balls since we were kids. A low side arm delivery finishing with a wrist curl made that ball start low and finish eye high and outside.
Worst thing you can do to your arm. Learn to locate your fastball, mix in a good slider and changeup. Pitching is all about command, not parlor tricks.
No. The gyroball has a spin such that an area with no seams is always pointing in one direction. Curveballs, sliders, screwballs, et cetera all use the magnus effect to move a ball. Basically the ball is spinning with half the ball spinning backwards with motion of the air and the other half going against the air. This creates pressure difference and the ball moves. Having one area without any seams doesn't use the magnus effect, it gives the ball less turbulence and more break.
Me and my best friend invented a pitch back in 1989 called the Dish. Its thrown with a release with the palm of your hand facing you ending like your holding a dish in your hand.
It just looks like a slider and it doesn't break... It's incredibly hard to throw a round ball with perfect bullet like spin... Slider's are pretty much like this (hence the red dot hitters see) but there's still a little downward spin which is why it "slides" away and down b/c of the combination of sideward and downward spin...but I mean watch the footage in this video! The ball is traveling straight! It's nothing more than an illusion to the batter's expectation. & the other pitchers confused are shuutos which is a class for a pitch to move in the direction of the same side of the arm release (two seamer, sinker, screwball, circle change-up)
Its a mixture of a changeup and a screw ball. It doesn't rise, it just falls too slowly for its speed. This isn't anything new, only adding the counter rotation to it to make it look like a curve/screw ball is what makes it so difficult to hit.
I hate that people don't think the pitch is real or that it is a screwball or slider. They are blowing its effect out of proportion, but this pitch is just an illusion. If you release it just right, it will look as if there is an axis tilted downwards which creates the illusion of the ball sinking. Unfortunately this can only fool a batter but a couple times before they adjust. To get it right takes a weird kinda flick-like motion which has little room for error. It can work, but like an eephus, it is more a novelty or cool trick more than anything.
The gyro is a dangerous pitch for people saying it doesn't rises it does but the purpose of the pitch is to catch them of guard so it rises slowly but has nasty fast break that goes down making it hard to hit
@austinro8 your right about that, i learned to through it 3 years ago and it wrecked my arm,it is the nastiest pitch i have ever thrown but it wrecked my arm.
It is actually possible for a baseball to rise upward in trajectory, but it is extremely rare and requires a ton of backspin. Check out this pitch: pitchfxDOTtexasleaguersDOTcom/pitcher/407911/?batters=A&count=22&pitches=FF&from=5%2F28%2F2011&to=5%2F28%2F2011. (In general you are right, though -- people really misunderstand the Magnus effect on pitching.)
The truth about the gyroball is that it gains speed as it travels through the plate, giving the illusion of rising. The opposite happens if you throw with two seams.
@@KingNast What happens is that fastballs use magnus force to keep travelling foward with little air resistance, while gyro fastballs use rifle effect to cancel air resistance, giving the illusion of gaining speed.
Not a screwball. Spinning the wrong way. Crappy curve is a better way to describe it, but in actuality it most closely resembles a flat slider. In college if we threw a slider and didn't keep our fingers on top it would sometimes "back up"...meaning instead of breaking a bit down and away (RHP to RH) it would stay up and stay straight. It's a mistake pitch. And it doesn't rise...it just doesn't sink as quickly as other breaking balls. You might get away with throwing it. Once.
Aj Kahl That's what he is saying.. you practice over and over until it has no spin.. and it's easier to see the ball spinning with the red and white ball.
New Major April 3rd!! I haven't gotten this excited for a new season since the days of waiting for new DBZ on toonami. I wonder what pitch Goro will learn next?
@chadsexinton ...not for side arm pitchers, if you notice, nearly all side arm pitches start off rising from release point then dropping right before the plate....
After four shoulder separations and permanent tendonitis in my elbow from pitching sidearm for three years in HS, and three more in college, I completely agree with you. My coaches saw a lefty with a wicked curve ball, and that was that. Can't begin to count the number of times since then that I wished I'd asked them to put me at first base...
The gyroball is a type of 2 seam sinker fastball. Atleast, it sure like hell looks like one. It's most likely a changeup type of pitch off a submarine arm. Who knows what the hell it is.
its physically impossible unless u throw sidearm, its simple physics if u throw overhand and u r snapping downward with ur wrist all ur force is going forward as well as downward making the ball sink downward
All this pitch is and does is have the form and appearance of a slider but since it spins in a gyro motion it makes batters think the ball is rising but in reality it is dropping. You cannot really tell the effect of the pitch unless you are the batter and are looking right at it. From an angle it just looks like an ordinary pitch.
@P1ST0NH0NDa you hold it like a 2 seam or 4 seam and then on release you cut through the inner part of the ball, 2 seam that you throw like a curve is a curve, gyroball - bullet spin, which you cant create by turning the ball forward to create topspin
You did say the magnus effect comes no where close to matching the magnitude of gravity. That leaves some room to make it possible, which means it is possible. Is it ever going to happen by man? No, because no man is going to throw that hard. Possible, but physically impossible to be thrown by man.
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Man, that old RUclips footage brings back some memories. No likes or dislikes - you rated the video between 1-5 stars.
Hi I am from the future. Your comment is 6 years old. Since then, COVID happened.
Remember when youtube had long ass loading time? haha
Y'all lame as hell. goro throws this everytime
goro from mortal combat?
+Tyler Morin goro shigeno (anime major)
+Lawrence Clark yeah he throws the SCREWBALL everytime
screwball is a curveball that curves the oppostite side mate kind of like a slower version of sinker
Christopher Wendle k clarification screwball thrown by a right handed pitcher falls but falls toward the right handed hitter just like sinker. is that easy enough?
You gotta love that News tracker: 100 killed in Congo. Let's see how we throw a gyroball.
The gyro was invented by Goro and Mayumura 😂
A Google user ya that is what I thought 😂😂😂😂 I love the anime
A Major fan!
Major fan hahaha
Hahahaha
Why is major so underrated lol. I barely see any videos of major on youtube
Lol i came here after watching major. XD
LOL, same. I just finished the whole thing. I'm sooo sad right now
***** Yea, you should watch it. It's really good
***** wait u know the name of the character but u dint see it yet? either way yes, its awesome btw. :D
***** Yeah, but he thew his at like 100 mph. Gyroball, imo, is nothing more than a fastball with abnormal movement. You can achieve the same results without wrecking your arm by using a 2-seam fastball.
blasttrash Same lmao
Looks like a Tommy John Surgery throw.
GOTEEEEE!!!
That’s gotta be terrible for your elbow
***** I feel like you just made those numbers up.
it is bad for you ekbow
I meant elbow
throwing overhand in general is bad for your elbow. it sucks to see many young kids unable to pursue a career or passion due to elbow injury
Nick D Happened to me :( I was 13 and I had a growth spurt and my growth plate in my right elbow separated from the bone. RIP me
Real life steel ball run confirmed
Raidou Kuzunoha now we can all learn the spin
JoJo
Nigga tf 6 years ago?
I'm currently reading part 7
And I gotta say
It's JOJO
@@kakarottokakashi2060 lol yeah
..weeewoo his friend Crushed by Rock..
Yare yare
Honda/Shigeno Goro invented this. Period.
No. Period.
Haven't Enamoto and Mayumura been using a gyroball longer than Goro...
@@DrahcirLXIV mayumura yes, enamoto's is a fake.
Ashish Shaik Enamoto’s isn’t a fake per se it’s just not as polished and scary as the other two that’s why he has so many other pitches so he can cover his weaknesses. It’s like if he had middle school Goro’s gyroball but couldn’t make it any stronger due to different factors
Agree
Lesson 3
Believe in the spin
Spin is real
This pitch isn't really all that complicated as they make it sound here. I had a friend who's used to go to this guy tezukus baseball camps in Japan way back as far as 2001 way before Matsuzaka even went to Boston. My friends dad was best friends with tezuka and was also my pitching coach. I learned this pitch at a young age and was taught that it had 2 purposes. Purpose 1 was to give the illusion of a breaking ball but never quite breaking. And purpose 2 was to kill the backspin on balls that had been hit by the batter on the lower section of the ball so you can cut down the distance the ball travels resulting in giving up less homeruns. Essentially with this pitch the hitter has to make solid contact with your pitch and earn there doubles and homeruns. Nothing more nothing less.
Could a righty throw it like a slider more so it has clockwise barrel roll?
This should be called "Goroball"
Ken mayumara
This video is a time machine
Throwing Gyroball= Tommy Jon Surgery
The 'Gyroball' is nothing more than a really good screwball. Period.
No screwball is the opposite way
Physicist say different. Are you a scientist?
Mike Krukow an ex mlb pitcher and broadcaster for the SF Giants has a great term for the gyro ball( which gives the illusion of a breaking ball that ends up not breaking)In reality it’s when someone hangs a slider.
He calls it the cement mixer. It just spins and goes slow and straight. Usually it gets cranked by the batter.
People. There are no new pitches. You’ve got a fastball; 4 seam, 2 seam and a cutter. One that goes right , left or straight. Pitches that look like a fast ball but fool you in being slower ( Chang up and split) sliders and curve balls; the same pitch with different amounts of break and speed. A screwball which isnt thrown anymore because a 2 seam change up or good split does the same thing. A knuckle ball that has no spin and breaks unpredictability. And an Ephus; a curve or lobbed pitch around 45-60 mph to throw off the batters timing and perception. That’s it. If anyone wants to mention a rising fastball that’s a 4 seam because it has the most backspin and doesn’t rise it just doesn’t sink on the downward path of the pitcher down the mound. It’s flat but appears to rise in relation to the mound slope.
The slider is not the same as the curve.
Sir. If a pitch has pure barrel roll spin, it is not any of the pitches you described. Maybe a backward cutter
Blatant lies. I invented the Gyroball.
+Brian Williams I suspect it was when you stormed the beaches during D-Day. Probably took out no less than 3 Nazi solders with one throw.
LIER! IT WAS ME
Lies. THE GYROBALL IS THE DEVIL
I invented inventions so by extension I invented this pitch
aka tommy john
It’s not a pitch worth making a new name for since we already have the term for a pitch with similar release,movement and spin which is “gyro slider”. Even Matsuzaka wont confirm it. The footage I saw of his “gyroball” vary so much, sometimes its like a cutter, gyro slider, sometimes it even has the movement of a changeup. It seems to me that it really is just Matsuzaka’s mistake slider, when he messes up the spin of the slider it can turn into so many different pitches.
One thing for sure though is that its not a screwball. The motion is different for a screwball since its supposed to spin the other way around like a changeup or a gyro slider thats spinning counter-clockwise as a right handed pitcher.
We've been throwing risers with wiffle balls since we were kids. A low side arm delivery finishing with a wrist curl made that ball start low and finish eye high and outside.
Worst thing you can do to your arm. Learn to locate your fastball, mix in a good slider and changeup. Pitching is all about command, not parlor tricks.
Sliders ruin your arm more than curveballs
Not if you get the grip right on a slider then it’s just flick of the wrist rather than a twist of the elbow.
I dont know but i think my arm will get fucked up if i practice this throw
My elbow hurts after watching this video
@goatpunchtheater THANK you. finally, a sensible person that actually does research before talking nonsense about something they don't know.
Is this a reference to the anime Majors??!?! If so, i loved that anime!
No. The gyroball has a spin such that an area with no seams is always pointing in one direction. Curveballs, sliders, screwballs, et cetera all use the magnus effect to move a ball. Basically the ball is spinning with half the ball spinning backwards with motion of the air and the other half going against the air. This creates pressure difference and the ball moves. Having one area without any seams doesn't use the magnus effect, it gives the ball less turbulence and more break.
James you better have run with that co-host's compliment!
Haha you can tell this was a while ago..."here the kids aspire to be the next matsusaka!" haha
My elbow hurts just watching this
GYROBALL Z!
The RPM of the ball in flight is OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAAND!
It certainly is a good watch.
AWESOME!
“At least 100 killed in two days of fighting in Congo”
that's how my ball spins ( like a bullet ) I'm not kidding
The pitcher cant even control the ball
"day-skay matzuzaka"
Thats not a screwball, a screwball spins opposite of a curveball
Me and my best friend invented a pitch back in 1989 called the Dish. Its thrown with a release with the palm of your hand facing you ending like your holding a dish in your hand.
Basically just a weirdly thrown 12-6 curve then right?
Just watching this video makes my arm hurt.
I was here for that
the seemuhration was amazing
It just looks like a slider and it doesn't break... It's incredibly hard to throw a round ball with perfect bullet like spin... Slider's are pretty much like this (hence the red dot hitters see) but there's still a little downward spin which is why it "slides" away and down b/c of the combination of sideward and downward spin...but I mean watch the footage in this video! The ball is traveling straight! It's nothing more than an illusion to the batter's expectation. & the other pitchers confused are shuutos which is a class for a pitch to move in the direction of the same side of the arm release (two seamer, sinker, screwball, circle change-up)
AHHH MAJOR SUGOI!!!! I WATCH TOO
Ah yes, Shigeno Goro's signature pitch.
Its a mixture of a changeup and a screw ball. It doesn't rise, it just falls too slowly for its speed. This isn't anything new, only adding the counter rotation to it to make it look like a curve/screw ball is what makes it so difficult to hit.
I hate that people don't think the pitch is real or that it is a screwball or slider. They are blowing its effect out of proportion, but this pitch is just an illusion. If you release it just right, it will look as if there is an axis tilted downwards which creates the illusion of the ball sinking. Unfortunately this can only fool a batter but a couple times before they adjust. To get it right takes a weird kinda flick-like motion which has little room for error. It can work, but like an eephus, it is more a novelty or cool trick more than anything.
The gyro is a dangerous pitch for people saying it doesn't rises it does but the purpose of the pitch is to catch them of guard so it rises slowly but has nasty fast break that goes down making it hard to hit
@austinro8 your right about that, i learned to through it 3 years ago and it wrecked my arm,it is the nastiest pitch i have ever thrown but it wrecked my arm.
It's basically a slider that hangs or they say, "rise"
It is actually possible for a baseball to rise upward in trajectory, but it is extremely rare and requires a ton of backspin. Check out this pitch: pitchfxDOTtexasleaguersDOTcom/pitcher/407911/?batters=A&count=22&pitches=FF&from=5%2F28%2F2011&to=5%2F28%2F2011. (In general you are right, though -- people really misunderstand the Magnus effect on pitching.)
A baseball with "football" or "bullet" spin goes straight. And then, usually, FAR.
The truth about the gyroball is that it gains speed as it travels through the plate, giving the illusion of rising. The opposite happens if you throw with two seams.
That sounds impossible. Where is it getting more energy to gain speed? It should always be decreasing in speed once it leaves the pitcher's hand
@@KingNast What happens is that fastballs use magnus force to keep travelling foward with little air resistance, while gyro fastballs use rifle effect to cancel air resistance, giving the illusion of gaining speed.
This is a Jojo Reference?
Not a screwball. Spinning the wrong way. Crappy curve is a better way to describe it, but in actuality it most closely resembles a flat slider. In college if we threw a slider and didn't keep our fingers on top it would sometimes "back up"...meaning instead of breaking a bit down and away (RHP to RH) it would stay up and stay straight. It's a mistake pitch. And it doesn't rise...it just doesn't sink as quickly as other breaking balls. You might get away with throwing it. Once.
So has everyone here Watched Major
lol love that SO
#56 GORO SHIGENO!!!!!!!!!
That wwould be a great trainer for the knuckleball too because you can see spin easier.
Aj Kahl That's what he is saying.. you practice over and over until it has no spin.. and it's easier to see the ball spinning with the red and white ball.
Don't ever quit your job James! Unless you want to open a gyro stand in the street corner.
The "gyroball" is what you get when there aren't enough interesting problems in the world to make a decent news story.
@H2drO34 i think they meant "they expect it to go down, but it actually rises"
Greetings from the future
Yea in softball it's a riseball the most nasty pitch ever
Who's getting this recommended 11 years later?😂
It's actually a changeup, but it breaks like a screwball.
New Major April 3rd!!
I haven't gotten this excited for a new season since the days of waiting for new DBZ on toonami. I wonder what pitch Goro will learn next?
Greetings from the future
@@jumbo6498 haha...and I don't think I ever watched that season... : ( Too much happenin in life. I need to watch it
@chadsexinton ...not for side arm pitchers, if you notice, nearly all side arm pitches start off rising from release point then dropping right before the plate....
throwing sidearm is how you very badly fuck up your arm
After four shoulder separations and permanent tendonitis in my elbow from pitching sidearm for three years in HS, and three more in college, I completely agree with you. My coaches saw a lefty with a wicked curve ball, and that was that. Can't begin to count the number of times since then that I wished I'd asked them to put me at first base...
Gyro ball + baseball = CHAOS!!
@theCRIMSONtradition nah, a slider has a forward rotating spin whereas the gyro ball is rotating perpendicular to the plate.
This the real reason Godzilla destroys Japan periodically.
Best anime imo
ohhh its actually called major thanks :D
'And what we can simurate"
I AM DYING LMAO
What kind of idiot would think that's fake?!
Nyoho~
Fall off your horse
awesome
I'm gonna try this
1:54 "this so called gyroball is nothing more than a really good screwball."
Me: oh is that all? Huh.
i accidently did it when i was trying to teach myself how to throw a slider. its not a good pitch at all unless theres little spin and wind lol
yea, watch the Japanese anmime called, Majors.
The main character only throws the gyro ball. So cool
The gyroball is a type of 2 seam sinker fastball.
Atleast, it sure like hell looks like one.
It's most likely a changeup type of pitch off a submarine arm.
Who knows what the hell it is.
also it's really obvious if they throwe the pitch and also throwing from the side like that will reck your arm
It's like a knuckleball
go to animefreak and it is there for sure! called : Major
its an awesome anime :)
idk about putting all of your hopes and dreams into one pitch
I got here after watching Major! [:
IN THIS SIMURATION...
its physically impossible unless u throw sidearm, its simple physics if u throw overhand and u r snapping downward with ur wrist all ur force is going forward as well as downward making the ball sink downward
1:50 back then when youtube maximum lenght was 10 minutes
All this pitch is and does is have the form and appearance of a slider but since it spins in a gyro motion it makes batters think the ball is rising but in reality it is dropping. You cannot really tell the effect of the pitch unless you are the batter and are looking right at it. From an angle it just looks like an ordinary pitch.
Pitching coach in the minors had us throw this all the time in place of the changeup
the way the gyroball is thrown is somewhat sidearm though, definitely lower than 3/4
I learned one thing, there was AT LEAST 100 killed within two days of fighting in the Congo.
Good joburo!
@P1ST0NH0NDa you hold it like a 2 seam or 4 seam and then on release you cut through the inner part of the ball, 2 seam that you throw like a curve is a curve, gyroball - bullet spin, which you cant create by turning the ball forward to create topspin
@vamosnippon the ball has to be lighter than air for that to happen since its already going down from the mound.
lol the news at the bottom
My gyro comes with a soda.
You did say the magnus effect comes no where close to matching the magnitude of gravity. That leaves some room to make it possible, which means it is possible. Is it ever going to happen by man? No, because no man is going to throw that hard. Possible, but physically impossible to be thrown by man.
i throw that as my main pitch
a cutter is a fastball with more pressure on the middle finger to make it cut so pretty much nothing like this