Because he stands for something true American He represents the small The indigenous people to The weak the frail but he keeps on fighting for a reason It’s a bless and curse
@@averybishopmartin6964 Man straight up says, even if he'll only last five minutes in that fight, those five minutes to fight will be worth it. This is why Howard gives him the suit in any timeline he doesn't get the serum (see Bullet Points)
For a pilot, being scrawny is an advantage, if the vehicle (Let's say a robotic flying battle suit) is designed for you. You can make it smaller, lighter, use less Life Support. Being small like that even makes you more resistant to Acceleration (AKA "G forces.") Honestly, fitting miniSteve in that suit is more realistic than Tony fitting in any of the Iron Man suits with all that tech. Even with the power supply embedded in his chest. All those actuators, engines, missiles, and shit? Sure. All that stuff, and a full sized human body? No way without Pym, or Galifreyan tech.
part of me wants to believe howard always wanted to make a suit but scrapped it because he lacked the power source and thats where tony got the idea to make MK1 from
Well in the Main Universe of the MCU Howard explicitily states that he was limited by the Technology of his time. Howard was a genious and he did make amaizing desings and machines but saddly he was limited by the Technological advancements and tools avalible at his time, specially when it came to energy generation he literally crated a synthetic element that was the base for a new form energy generation, but he could never properly synthetize it because he din't have the tools to do so back then.
It’s implied the mk1 is based on the hydra suit, but because he no longer had access to the tessaract because it was being used for other projects, he had to come up with an alternative, and he did, the arc reactor, but if the hydra suits energy consumption is anything like the mk1, it would have only lasted a few minutes at that demand, as well as other issues and side effects, and the element he needed to perfect the arc reactor to make it 100% viable was impossible to synthesise in his time, so he made plans for tony to eventually take up the project.
He had the power source, but it was used for other projects like the one in Captain Marvel, and I think the reason why in this universe Howard get to make the MK1 suit was because he got the Tesseract earlier than his Sacred Timeline version. That and probably wanted to make up for Steve since he didn't get to be injected with the serum
I still find it silly that US government didn't just mass produce tesseract weapons instead of a one man army. One man can only be in so many places at one time after all.
Tech wasn't as advance, it was also howard's only project. And since his son hasn't invented the arc reactor, that's the only thing powering the hydra stomper. You saw how fast it ran out of power without the tessaract.
A theory I like for why Howard chose Steve to be the Hydra Stomper pilot is that he is one of the few people they can be 100% sure is not a hydra agent as he is not only an established american citizen but as his body is feeble there is no way they would have recruited him.
@@fynkozari9271 Man you’re missing out on a lot of your life if you let people dictate what you watch in life with something as backward stupid as a rating lol
I know Howard was the one who picked him because he liked his spirit. I think the “official” reason was that he was the only soldier they had that was scrawny enough on hand to fit into the thing. As for why Hydra left him in it, maybe they couldn’t figure out how to open it up manually without destroying it, and they were worried that if they powered it up, then it’d go on a rampage?
@@rahulmurmu5783 ya but then the germans would also be fielding the same shit. sadly this is just piss poor writers not really thinking about things and instead just writing shit to be cool, like cool armour mech guy fist fights tanks and wins, and calls it a day.
Am i the only one who suspect that "new element" Tony discovers in Ironman 2 is actually based on Tesseract. Howard definitely do some research on Tesseract and trying to make something based on it, but the technologies of his time isn't sufficient. Maybe that's why he decided to coded it to Stark Expo layout so Tony could finish it. And maybe that's why Loki's scepter unable to brainwash Tony in the first Avenger movie.
In this universe. Here's what I honestly think happened. After Peggy got frozen. Steve went on to finish the war as Hydra Stomper. Due to the rousing success of the armor, Howard made more and gave Steve a whole squad to lead. Flash forward forty years a little bit before Peggy returned. Stark industries flourishes using the hydra Stomper armor as it's main focus. Using the Howard Stark AI in place of JARVIS made by Howards son Tony, there's a few "Iron Man" drones positioned in every city around the United states that works with the local police forces. But Tony himself dawn's a new suit instead of going by Iron Man, he goes by SHIELD'S HERALD bc stark industries now works alongside Shield in order to keep the world safe from threats.
That would be better since the inside of the suit is really powerfull guy although its not as strong as hulk or thor, at least he's not a regular human being, especially with the nano suit that really fits better in flexibility & agile for movement
Actually, it's based after a comic called "Bullet Points", in which doctor Eriksen is murdered one day earlier to the Super Soldier program taking place, and with him, his serum samples are also gone.
I find it ironic that Steve, as the Hydra Stomper, was better in destroying Hydra compared to his Captain America counterparts. Especially since he successfully destroyed Hydra completely in his universe.
I think it makes sense. Due to his moral compass, he wouldn't be so easily persuated into falling in line and simply accepting H.Y.D.R.A, be it former or active members, holding triggers. He would do everything he could to not only hunt them, but also convince higher ups to undermine their influence.
Almost funny that steve asked tony in avengers - take that suit away and what are you. I could say the same thing to you, now steve. The only difference is tony was genius, philanthropist and playboy without it.
The fact that this Armour is powered by tesseract, this could have been an even cool looking and more hitech. Plus this could have been the strongest armour cause it's powered by an infinity stone.
captain america could do the same as a hired suit operator an they can pre record robert downie jr voice tellin him how to use the suit an still use his shield in the suit an redesign the suit to captain america's outfit
I wonder If Howard stark made a iron man suit this advanced already I think that maybe Tony could of started out with a stronger suit and skipped the lesson he had in iron man 1 Hell I think mark 3 could of been his mark 1
No matter what universe Steve Rogers will be frozen in ice ; I’m not sure what Peggy Carter maybe both just saying in all universe Steve Rogers is frozen in time
The Iron Man project wasn't 100% reliable, as they only had enough materials to produce ONE model, and the super soldier serum was all used on Steve, who still had rights to deny becoming a lab rat. Plus, H.Y.D.R.A was acting mostly independently during the war, and they chose to focus their super soldiers on fighting them instead of the NAZI main parties themselves.
Никакого укора от убийства танкистов, он вщял и перевернул танк вместе с экипажем и просто запек из, еще и улыбался, бля, вот оно лицо децких комиксов для 30 летних деточек.
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I like how the show didn’t just throw Steve out it recognized that even without the super formula Steve was captain America for a reason.
Agreed
Because he stands for something true American
He represents the small
The indigenous people to
The weak the frail but he keeps on fighting for a reason
It’s a bless and curse
@@johnrodems6360 how does cap America represent indigenous people
@@sipioc I no
@@xinderx he doesn't, op is smoking something
Steve Roger: "Take off the suit, what are you?"
Also Steve: "I'm still that skinny kid from Brooklyn"
This is why I love Steve so much. Super soldier or not, he'll fight for what he believes in.
@@averybishopmartin6964 true that. I'm sure he's worthy of Mjolnir even if he's just a skinny kid
@@averybishopmartin6964 Man straight up says, even if he'll only last five minutes in that fight, those five minutes to fight will be worth it.
This is why Howard gives him the suit in any timeline he doesn't get the serum (see Bullet Points)
And then, Peggy says: "The suit is nothing without the man in it."
For a pilot, being scrawny is an advantage, if the vehicle (Let's say a robotic flying battle suit) is designed for you. You can make it smaller, lighter, use less Life Support. Being small like that even makes you more resistant to Acceleration (AKA "G forces.") Honestly, fitting miniSteve in that suit is more realistic than Tony fitting in any of the Iron Man suits with all that tech. Even with the power supply embedded in his chest. All those actuators, engines, missiles, and shit? Sure. All that stuff, and a full sized human body? No way without Pym, or Galifreyan tech.
I like that it has the general look of the Mk1 iron man armor
The general look of the Mark One armor fits in with World War II very well.
More like iron monger
I was gonna say the hulk buster
@@bronxx4817 yes, a mix + a WW2 touch
It looks like iron monger and hulk buster had s-
part of me wants to believe howard always wanted to make a suit but scrapped it because he lacked the power source and thats where tony got the idea to make MK1 from
Well in the Main Universe of the MCU Howard explicitily states that he was limited by the Technology of his time.
Howard was a genious and he did make amaizing desings and machines but saddly he was limited by the Technological advancements and tools avalible at his time, specially when it came to energy generation he literally crated a synthetic element that was the base for a new form energy generation, but he could never properly synthetize it because he din't have the tools to do so back then.
It’s implied the mk1 is based on the hydra suit, but because he no longer had access to the tessaract because it was being used for other projects, he had to come up with an alternative, and he did, the arc reactor, but if the hydra suits energy consumption is anything like the mk1, it would have only lasted a few minutes at that demand, as well as other issues and side effects, and the element he needed to perfect the arc reactor to make it 100% viable was impossible to synthesise in his time, so he made plans for tony to eventually take up the project.
@@RexMK-probably one reason why the model of stark city was the model of tony's new power source
He had the power source, but it was used for other projects like the one in Captain Marvel, and I think the reason why in this universe Howard get to make the MK1 suit was because he got the Tesseract earlier than his Sacred Timeline version. That and probably wanted to make up for Steve since he didn't get to be injected with the serum
0:30 Alternative Baymax and Hiro
I still find it silly that US government didn't just mass produce tesseract weapons instead of a one man army. One man can only be in so many places at one time after all.
They DID...eventually. That was project pegasus.
This is actually Tony father Personal project
This point was actually a point of an argument in the Avengers movie.
Tech wasn't as advance, it was also howard's only project. And since his son hasn't invented the arc reactor, that's the only thing powering the hydra stomper. You saw how fast it ran out of power without the tessaract.
IRL USA did have sherman
"I NEVER HAD THE TASTE FOR THIS SORT OF THING, BUT I HAVE TO ADMIT - I'M DEEPLY ENJOYING THE SUIT!"
Obadiah Stane: "De ja vu."
no matter the multiverse Peggy and Rogers will be a great couple
i am sueing you for that C profile picture
People whose usernames start with C, unite!
Captain Carter in doctor Strange 2 is like.. "I can do this whole day but don't know how to use a shield"
More like, i can do this HALF day
@@niocok man that one “cut deep”
A theory I like for why Howard chose Steve to be the Hydra Stomper pilot is that he is one of the few people they can be 100% sure is not a hydra agent as he is not only an established american citizen but as his body is feeble there is no way they would have recruited him.
That's both funny and cruel.
I love how an 88mm Tiger cannon directly hit Steve and it didn't even make a dent. Let's do a "what if plot armor didn't exist?"
I haven't watched this, but the series ratings so mediocre?
@@fynkozari9271 it’s a great show you should watch it
@@marvelandwwetheories3339 I only watch 8 ratings and above.
@@fynkozari9271 Man you’re missing out on a lot of your life if you let people dictate what you watch in life with something as backward stupid as a rating lol
@@fynkozari9271 ratings don’t matter as much, you should go watch it anyway cause its still good
Love the design, the origin and the story but could have at least given him a cooler name then hydra stomper.
Iron patriot?
@@p.a.r.c1694 Yeah. That's definitely a better name.
even iron lad sounds better than that
@@p.a.r.c1694 just "Patriot" would be cooler.
I mean it's the 40s, propaganda name is the hit
This was a great episode.
Why was Steve the one piloting the Stomper? Isn't he an artist by formation? Not a pilot or engineer.
Weirder why would Hydra keep him in the suit?
He's small and skinny so he's the only that can fit
Idk
I also don't know
Maybe they don't even know how to get him out
Hydra probably couldn't figure out how to get him out.
He has good chemistry with Peggy carter, he has a good attitude for a soldier and they could always teach him
I know Howard was the one who picked him because he liked his spirit. I think the “official” reason was that he was the only soldier they had that was scrawny enough on hand to fit into the thing. As for why Hydra left him in it, maybe they couldn’t figure out how to open it up manually without destroying it, and they were worried that if they powered it up, then it’d go on a rampage?
It's so cute seeing Peggy and Steve fighting together. They're in full synchrony. They really were made for each other.
Keren banget sih steve rogers jadi iron man. Bentukan robotnya nggak lebih simple, tapi lebih kelihatan tangguh...
Steve became Captain America, military was fine. Peggy gets the formula, they require some near invincible back up.
It's still the 1940's dude.
@@wingedbluj1674 solid point
And don’t forget peggy was able to get the teseract but steve wasn’t
@@xingxasa7194 Steve didn't have a mecha suit backing him up
@@ProfChaos1985 Peggy got the tesseract before hydra stomper was invented, after all the tesseract was needed to power to suit itself
Peggy riding steve is all we wanted to watch.
Hydra Stomper flipping over the Tank makes Tiger look like they're made out of aluminum..
0:10 that was a 88mm shell hitting his suit directly without taking any damage 😐
Maybe metal of suit mixed with vibranium
@@rahulmurmu5783and maybe adamantium alloy or something
@@rahulmurmu5783 ya but then the germans would also be fielding the same shit.
sadly this is just piss poor writers not really thinking about things and instead just writing shit to be cool, like cool armour mech guy fist fights tanks and wins, and calls it a day.
@Thekilleroftanks the germans did not have adamantium or vibranium at the time
@@Thekilleroftanks Only killjoys actually care about that shit most people have both the suspension of disbelief and the ability to have fun.
Am i the only one who suspect that "new element" Tony discovers in Ironman 2 is actually based on Tesseract. Howard definitely do some research on Tesseract and trying to make something based on it, but the technologies of his time isn't sufficient. Maybe that's why he decided to coded it to Stark Expo layout so Tony could finish it.
And maybe that's why Loki's scepter unable to brainwash Tony in the first Avenger movie.
Probably
No, Loki couldn't brainwash him because he didn't know Stark was wearing an arc reactor
Except Loki couldnt couldnt brainwash him because he hit the ark reactor. Yopu hear the metal hit together
Yeah, the scepter needed to actually touch his body, but it only hit the arc reactor.
Because it is, it was supposed to be Vibranium at one point but they decided to change it.
In this universe. Here's what I honestly think happened.
After Peggy got frozen. Steve went on to finish the war as Hydra Stomper. Due to the rousing success of the armor, Howard made more and gave Steve a whole squad to lead. Flash forward forty years a little bit before Peggy returned. Stark industries flourishes using the hydra Stomper armor as it's main focus. Using the Howard Stark AI in place of JARVIS made by Howards son Tony, there's a few "Iron Man" drones positioned in every city around the United states that works with the local police forces. But Tony himself dawn's a new suit instead of going by Iron Man, he goes by SHIELD'S HERALD bc stark industries now works alongside Shield in order to keep the world safe from threats.
I like your idea
Nope, winter soldier
You just created a New Earth Congratulations.
lady liberty and twink tank are my favorite marvel couple
I describe this as BIG GUY & THE IRON GIANT👍🏼
Big guy and rusty was honestly a strange show on Fox Kids but still a show full of cool gadget moments.
I like in this universe, there was never the creation of the winter soldier cause of the hydra stopper
Would be a good plot twist if the one Peggy saw on the containment in the last episode was Steve as the Winter Soldier
@@Fei-Chan but he had the suit on
@@icelogical1239 The suit could've still been used if he was the winter soldier.
@@TheBlueShark That would just make the hydra stopper look ugly
@@icelogical1239 but does Steve survive? I mean he can't survive without getting a super soldier serum
It’s basically a power armor suit from fallout 4
Now imagine if main universe Iron Man had powered one of HIS suits with an infinity stone
I like how they just jump off a running running train like it was nothing.
I kinda like the retro look more than the modern suit. Something about bulky robots look much better.
Then you’ll live titanfall
The title should have been more like “What If Steve Became the First Iron Man” instead of “new.”
I really liked the idea of taking all the same component parts of the original story and mixing them up into something new yet familiar.
So... is this the same universe as the one in multiverse of madness, cause that ends the episode on a bittersweet note
The writers confirmed that the Captain Carter we saw in MOM was not the same Carter
The one in MOM was a Captain Carter, but not the one we knew from What If...?
@@wingedbluj1674 yeah
@@suppdnft5484 I wasn't asking a question, just using the full title of the show.
"Told you it was indestructible"
Memories bring back memories 😔😔
Damn Steve really solo'd a platoon of Tigers using plot armor
It's obvious the writers took inspiration from the bullet point universe
That would be better since the inside of the suit is really powerfull guy although its not as strong as hulk or thor, at least he's not a regular human being, especially with the nano suit that really fits better in flexibility & agile for movement
0:04 Average uptier battle playing Tiger E
I was very happy seeing Tiger I in a form of animation ngl
I like how we always had the capability of making advance technological creations, just need a strong enough power source
0:05 “We are so advanced vehicles of this war! We can not be destroyed by simpl-“
*D I E S*
0:10 " I'm Genius, and my power armor is be-"
D I E S
Stark should have said this line: Ok, now I just need the strongest, bravest, smallest soldier to pilot this thing.
The Hydra Stomper looks like a mix between the Iron-Monger suit and the Mark 1 from Iron Man 1 but if it was given the 40s treatment
I just found out that this is Josh Keaton who voices Steve and I love it already.
Bro this combo was the sickest ever in my opinion.
i love how this looks like the mark 1 from the 2007 iron man movie so well omg
Actually, it's based after a comic called "Bullet Points", in which doctor Eriksen is murdered one day earlier to the Super Soldier program taking place, and with him, his serum samples are also gone.
@JabamiLain I know but it resembles the 2007 design.
@@bungler3000true.
They make a badass couple ain't gonna lie
Would have been cool if they made Steve into that worlds winter soldier
technically they are
This man is a prophet.
Meet the Iron Monger - complete
I still can’t figure out how he fits in that darn thing
He's tiny and thin as a stickman.
Steve MCU: I can do this all day
Steve What If: I can do this till my Car Battery ran out.
At 1:49, Steve should have said you had to ask. That would be funny
NOone can replace Iron man!
reminds me of stargirl and stripe from DC
I find it ironic that Steve, as the Hydra Stomper, was better in destroying Hydra compared to his Captain America counterparts. Especially since he successfully destroyed Hydra completely in his universe.
I think it makes sense. Due to his moral compass, he wouldn't be so easily persuated into falling in line and simply accepting H.Y.D.R.A, be it former or active members, holding triggers. He would do everything he could to not only hunt them, but also convince higher ups to undermine their influence.
Almost funny that steve asked tony in avengers - take that suit away and what are you. I could say the same thing to you, now steve. The only difference is tony was genius, philanthropist and playboy without it.
"I'm just a kid from Brooklyn."
@@main.ignisha and he is a good honest man who's doing his best.
I like how Iron Man Steve was fighting actual Tiger Tanks in the beginning and not some fictional Hydra Laser-tank BS…
The fact that this Armour is powered by tesseract, this could have been an even cool looking and more hitech. Plus this could have been the strongest armour cause it's powered by an infinity stone.
I wholly disagree. You need to remember, this armor was designed in the '40s. I should look like it was designed in the '40s.
Is this on dvd yet
Looks and flies a lot like the old Gigantor anime.
captain america could do the same as a hired suit operator an they can pre record robert downie jr voice tellin him how to use the suit an still use his shield in the suit an redesign the suit to captain america's outfit
Are you satisfied with your care, Peggy?
I wonder how advanced iron man would be in this timeline
he looks like big guy from rusty the boy robot.😁
I wish Chris Evans voiced Steve
Haha the advantages of watching it dubbed in your mother language
I only hear spider man and iron man when he speaks
@@Friendlyneigbourhoodspidey Honestly I kinda love Keaton in the role. He doesn't sound like Chris Evans, but still sounds like Steve.
I wonder
If Howard stark made a iron man suit this advanced already I think that maybe Tony could of started out with a stronger suit and skipped the lesson he had in iron man 1
Hell I think mark 3 could of been his mark 1
English grace and American grit and industry was a much better combination that what took place in the main MCU imo.
The original “iron patriot”
Dude just killed Alot of people
Steve was captain America way before he got the serum
Where can I watch these videos?
More like Iron Patriot. To be Iron Man you gotta build the suit, not simply use it.
I agree
Stomper is the best name for it
Man its good to see the Mk 1 again.
Bruh thats not Iron man anymore, THATS FUCKING MECHA MAN
Op 🔥
No matter what universe Steve Rogers will be frozen in ice ; I’m not sure what Peggy Carter maybe both just saying in all universe Steve Rogers is frozen in time
Tank shell hits tank armour: penetration
Tank shell hits same armour on mech: some fireworks and scratch
Yay! 😍
So this is "Rusty and the BigGuy" , in Marvel version 😁😁.
So, if the allies have all of that, how come the war didn’t end in like 1940
The Iron Man project wasn't 100% reliable, as they only had enough materials to produce ONE model, and the super soldier serum was all used on Steve, who still had rights to deny becoming a lab rat.
Plus, H.Y.D.R.A was acting mostly independently during the war, and they chose to focus their super soldiers on fighting them instead of the NAZI main parties themselves.
Ironman is not just a suit, it's the person, this version of ironman is not different of any one that use one of the armor of Tony
Howard probably could've made mk1 iron man armor its quite simple. An exoskeleton, armor plating and repulsar tech with he was already working on
What If Howard Stark was the one who designed Iron Man's Mark 1 armor and then Tony build it when he was captured.
I love that suit it's like mk1 and iron monger put together which makes sense since neither of them happened I'm this universe.
God bless.
Dude... I've been searching for the episode in the comments like any intellectual would. Help me out fellas...
What episode is this?
reminded me of Hiro and Baymax
If the light on the chest is very bright it is sus
I wish they would have more honor and respect for the people they are killing who are just trying to protect their country and families
Makes me wonder, is he the one who built the Ultron Drones in Doctor Strange "2"?
Как сериал этот называется?
Feels like big hero 6
is this where captain carter got the backpack
BRITISH COMMANDO LET GO
In this case Tony Stark still have a dad
it's death as bucky but he surived the fall getting taken alive
Никакого укора от убийства танкистов, он вщял и перевернул танк вместе с экипажем и просто запек из, еще и улыбался, бля, вот оно лицо децких комиксов для 30 летних деточек.
So....Stars and S.T.R.I.P.E.S.
Peggy was riding steve
What if: There were Tiger 1 deployed in any significant quantity on the western front.
Captain Man