Canon M6 Mark II - Do you need the EVF? (Canon EVF-DC2)
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- Canon M6 Mark II - Do you need the EVF? (Canon EVF-DC2)
Today I'm talking about the Canon electronic view finder (The EVF-DC2), and if you need it for the Canon M6 Mark II.
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I got my M50 about 3 years ago, and used my EVF WAY more than the flippy screen. You mentioned being able to block out the rest of the world, and that's 100% the case, and really is one of the biggest things that I miss when shooting with my M6 mkii. Not only that, it allows me to nail focus better when using a manual lens, and also makes the shot a lot more stable. When I'm looking through the EVF, my arms are closer to my body, and the rubber guard on the EVF is making pretty solid contact with my brow. I've noticed that it's a lot harder to get and keep my subject in frame with just the rear LCD, especially when I'm shooting telephoto.
I've got a pretty short list of gear I need to pick up for my M6, and I'm debating on whether the quality of life upgrade with the EVF is a higher priority than being able to shoot "LOG" in 10 bit 4 2 2 with a ninja V or upgrading to Resolve Studio, but if I get a good deal on it, it may bump up in priority.
I got the M6 Mii body, Len and the viewfinder for $850! Used, but stilll a good deal!!
I'm using the EVF all the time, and of course for macros ! Doing free hand macros with the back screen is not very easy, the evf is really a plus in this case.
Yeah, both macro and telephone I can see it being really useful. I’m going to be doing some wildlife photography tomorrow, and will be trying the EVF out.
Good tips, Mark. I have another point to add in favor of the EVF. One reason I bought the M6 Mark II is because of the availability of adapters that let me use lenses from my old film cameras. The autofocus and tracking on this camera are great, but it's also a great lightweight camera for more deliberate still photography. I have adapters for Canon FD, Nikon and Leica M-mount lenses. Focus peaking isn't as precise as I need if I'm using a fast lens wide open, and the EVF lets me do a quick focus check to give me more confidence that I'll have a usable shot when I get home. As Han He mentioned in an earlier comment, I like the built in diopter adjustment that lets me use the EVF without glasses.
Since making this video this is precisely the situation I use the EVF most. I love adapting vintage glass, and the different looks you can achieve.
For the price that Canon is charging for the M6 II, an EVF should have been built into the camera body (like the Sony A6100). A viewfinder is necessary in bright sunlight especially if the user is wearing shades. The idea of a clip-on EVF is stupid - when attached to the camera, it sticks out like some Cyclops eye and turns a very compact camera into a "big" camera. They should have ditched the built-in flash and placed the EVF there instead.
Very well said.
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Greetings from an M6 MkII owner in Malaysia.
Each serious photographer own smartphones, and probably flagship smartphones (with high spec OLED screens) which they used under very bright sunlight to capture shots.
I have always owned flagship models from Samsung, Pixel and iPhone, and currently using S20+ and iP11ProMax. Under very bright sunlight in many countries, such high tech screens are virtually useless.
Hence, as a hardcore photographer since 1984 with the Nikon F3 and FM2 right to this era with my XT3 and M6MkII, where most of my shots are done outside under very bright light 365days a year, I definitely need not only an EVF but a great EVF, and I love the Canon EVF on my M6 where its left like that all the time.
Great videos, sir. Keep it up! 👍👍
I tried my M6 II for a year without it. I regret waiting so long. I realized I needed one when my bifocals forced me to hold my camera in an awkward position for mobile video (prior to that I was nearly always on a tripod for video). With the EVF, I can set the diopter where I want it and just hold the camera up to my eye.
I shoot quite a bit with the original M, you can use the touch screen to pick your focus point and also release the shutter. No EVF at all on mine.
+1 for the left eye bit. I think this is something that most people on YT simply skip out on. :)
I am getting old and start to have near vision problem. EVF is adjustable, so I don't have to put on my reading glasses.
Thanks, thats a great tip. I will include that in a future video.
Me too having presbyopia.
I find the most useful situation for the viewfinder is with telephoto lenses. I use 100-400mm EF lens a lot and without the viewfinder, I can't hold the lens steady while looking at the screen.
Without a viewfinder, it just doesn't feel right. Even if I don't use it even half the time, having the option to pull the camera up to your eye like a "traditional" camera just feels right.
I already use that touchpad feature on my M50 and I really love it, it improves workflow in my opinion. I have programmed to bottom right corner.
Does the screen show the image simultaneously with the viewfinder?
I've got the EVF for my M6 and I only use it for telephoto. I prefer to use the screen since it tilts and you have more versatile options for street photography or fashion.
Thanks about how I use mine too.
The camera will also take the EVF-DC1. This one will swing up to use as a right-angle viewer or anywhere in-between. I picked up a mint used EVF-DC1 for 80 USD even before I got the M6 Mark II.
I've been watching your vids on the M6 ii for a week or two, ever since I bought mine. Mine came with the EOS to M adapter and it all works great. (Had canon lenses) Keep up the great work! Next purchase will be the EVF, I take mostly wildlife with this camera!
Thanks for the kind words. Yes, I think the EVF would provide real value in wildlife photography. I’m going to try to do a wildlife photography video, with the EVF, in the near future.
How is this camera for wildlife? Does it do 14 FPS in continuous af in raw? How is the af?
I think long telephoto shots/video would be almost impossible using the screen only. It would be too shaky. Definitely need the EVF to hold the camera against your face and keep it all stable. Especially for fast moving subjects.
Right
telephoto and macro NEED the viewfinder. This guy is probably a vlogging backscreener but photographers generally will want a viewfinder imho
Looking through EVF also gives extra stability of tucked in elbows. For photos, snapping them looking at the screen is very smartphonish. Just doesn't vibe
Agree.
How do you enable the touchpad feature in the menu settings?
Hi, thanks for the question. In response to your question I have just shot a video to go over the steps, the video will be published tomorrow. So keep an eye out.
Not necessarily for bright light, but good when you shoot in low light situations where you have to use a slower shutter speed. Without a tripod, using a viewfinder in that situation improves stability and camera shake if your shutter speed is slower than 1/30 or 1/40.
That’s a good tip. I will include it in an updated video some day, thank you.
Thank you for the video. I guess- a big reason for having an EVF is that you hold the camera more steadily?
You're right, it can help as it gives you another point of contact on your body, which helps keep the camera steady. There are a number of other ways to keep the camera steady, and I will try an do a video on them in the near future.
How to mount a flash if EvF is on in case of macros?
Smallrig has some mounting solutions for that, specifically for the M6 II. The Cage they offer is very good, I leave mine on full time.
hi i am from indonesia, i want to buy EVF-DC2 for my M6 mark ii, but in Indonesia there is no one selling, can you help me?
Great video! Your videos helped me choose this camera and I like it overall. However I noticed the evf has a blue tint when I look through it. The scene appears to look quite different from the screen and what I see with my eyes. I'm not sure if I received a defective item or what? Anyone else noticed the same thing?
I have not noticed this, but I have pretty poor color vision, canon support is generally very good, I would give them a call.
Where do I find that setting?
I have another video on the channel explaining this, just go find that.
@@markwiemels I've got to say though... The circular evf design looks ugly imo. 🤣 I prefer the evf dc1 design
If touch screen cracks or the pixels burn for some reason, EVF would come in handy, I suppose
But can you lock subject with touchscreen without EVF? You are saying that option is only available with EVF? And what about sport photography. I think that it is much easier to track fast subject with camera conected with your head, then with your arms. Or not?
Yes, the ability to lock onto a subject seems no different to me. One you start taking the photos, the screen, and view finder, are displaying a delayed image (the photo that has just been taken), this actually makes it easier to track the subject when using the screen, as you can still see the subject in real time, not on the screen but with your naked eye. With the viewfinder you are only seeing the delayed image. That's my take on it anyways.
Does the EVF-DC2 have better color and contrast over the EVF-DC1? Is EVF-DC1 accurate enough for use with long telephotos? I am asking because EVF-DC1 can be found at a lower price. Also may I check with you if the touchpad function of the M6 Mk II works with the EVF-DC1? Thank you.
I can’t tell the different between the two, all functions are the same.
Great video , Thanks...
You sort of imply that the touch autofocus isn’t available if you’re not using the evf, I just want to confirm that’s NOT the case?
Yes, so tap to track and tap to focus are available without the EVF. The touch pad mode is different, it simulates the joystick moving the focus point from a traditional DSLR. This mode is probably more accurate, allows you to chose a smaller area, and is mostly good for photography when using the EVF. It’s kinda cool and useful but not necessary.
Good job on this video. Every other review suggested that there is no way to switch which side adjusts the focal point. Maybe they just didn't know about that function of switching sides.
Thanks. Yeah, I did notice that in some of the videos. I guess they only have so much time with the camera.
The EVF is perfekt If U have to use reading glasses!
does it helps to save battery since it will black off the screen when you put your eyes at the viewfinder?
Possibly, seems logical.
Cool, your video helped settle my own argument. I shoot open eye with my 7D and 750D but need something thats more video dedicated this year and I've wanted to go mirrorless for a good year now. The EVF maybe something I'll wait on, but just getting this camera with an EF mount, I'll be laughing!
You can alway pick up a used EVF-DC1 too, it’s the older model EVF and works just was well, in fact, I prefer it. Just keep an eye on eBay, they come up now and then, normally at a pretty cheap price.
I totally disagree with regards to the EVF. It may be an age thing but I always use the
eve on this camera if am not in front of it. You are a young man and that may make a difference. I wear glasses so it is much easier to see using it and it blocks out light outside.
You're not the only one to say that the EVF is necessity in on this camera, it's good to get those alternative "view points" (pun intended) in the comments. Thanks for sharing your insight.
Hi! I am wondering if this feature for the touch pad works on the M6 out of box or maybe via an update? Thanks!
It only works if you have the evf. See this video ruclips.net/video/mSMiFdj-9_s/видео.html
Does the evf lock in pretty well? Do you see it coming loose in a bag at all?
No, it locks it well, can’t see it coming off. Should be fine in a well padded camera bag.
@@markwiemels thanks for the info!
Does the focus tracking feature exist for the M6mkI? Or M50?
It does on the M6, not sure about the M50.
I am confused should i go for evf dc1 or evf dc2 fr my m6 mark ii. Pliz really need help. I would like to go for a cheaper one if possible.
Yes, that’s what I use now.
@@markwiemels how is evf dc1 compare to evf dc2.
@@MrNobody-tz6cg I tested them side by side, and they looked identical to me. So I sold my DC2 as they were fetching good money, and I already had the DC1.
@@markwiemels thanks for the info. I will go for evf - dc as i got in lesser price.
I am using the EVF--version 1--on my M3. I assume v1.0 works with the M6 II, yes?
Canon says it does, but I don’t have one so haven’t tested.
The M6 Mark II camera will also take the EVF-DC1. This one will swing up to use as a right-angle viewer or anywhere in-between. I picked up a mint used EVF-DC1 for 80 USD even before I got the M6 Mark II.
@@philipethier9136 Thanks, that's very good to know.
Does it support 14fps burst mode without EVF..
Yes.
@@markwiemels which adapter recomended if i want to get full frame with it?
Is the EVF flip up - if not why not - makes no sense not to be?
It’s removable. I think it’s a bit of an odd design, I prefer the built in finder in the M50.
@@markwiemels The M6 viewfinder is a flip up which makes perfect sense - the new one is not so this alone makes it a no from me - nice review - thanks
Will Evf DC2 work on M6 mark ii straight away or I have to upgrade its firmware first?
Straight away.
@@markwiemels thanks Mark.Makes my task easier .Going to buy it now.
Austraillia has the brightest sun he says
It’s scientifically proven.
If you use flashes with controllers then don't bother with this camera. Unless you want to shoot only with the screen and no evf. Because the evf is in the hot shoe where the transmitter needs to be.
Thanks, so it's useless, you can also touch focus without the EVF
Totally untrue, went to my horse farm without the EVF and I couldn’t see lcd at all unless I was under a tree. As a professional, its necessary to have the view finder
Thanks for sharing your insight. Make sure you turn up the LCD brightness to maximum, it is adjustable in the menus.
Spaceship like viewfinder. 😂
If the M50 had the upgraded sensor and battery then it would be the perfect camera.
Roy Bodin, agree. They seemed to have been passing the tech down from the higher end models to the lower models about 18-24 months after release. The m200 now has most of the tech the m50 has, this makes me think we will get an m50 II late this year or early next year, with most of the M6 II tech.
@@markwiemels As someone who's in the market now I find it frustrating knowing that if I buy the M50 now a Mark II version will be released not too long after and If I buy the M6 Mark II I'll be forking out more money than I'd like and I will have to settle with the flip up screen and non-built in EVF.
Yah, I was in the same position. I bit the bullet an got the M6. M50 is a great camera as it is, and its very well priced right now. Even if you bought it, and resold it on eBay in a year, you wouldn’t loose to much on it.
@@markwiemels I'm purely interested in photography and I like the price and build of the M50 but what I'm wondering is if the upgraded sensor will really make that much of noticeable difference in photography that warrants the extra money spent on the M6 Mark II. I plan on using the EF-M 22mm f2 lens.
I prefer the m50 for photography, and using the 22mm there will either be no difference, or so little difference that it’s meaningless. Battery life is a little less, 25%-30% but the batteries are so small I just keep an extra in my pocket. In your situation I think the m50 is not only much cheaper, it’s also the better camera. I own both cameras, and if I’m walking out the door to take photos with the 22mm f2, I would 100% take the M50.
Are you talking AU$ or US$?
I was talking US$, as that is where most of my viewers are from.
My Camera Bag, thank you. I thought you might have been. The camera and lens kit, including the viewfinder, is quite a good price in Australia at the moment $1095.
Sorry, AU $1169.
That’s extremely cheap. I would grab that if you are keen, the exchange rate on the Aussie $ has plummeted, that will flow through to product pricing in the near future. It’s a bloody good camera at that price.
You use screen only because you are a young man with good eyes. If you were a mature adult you would never not use the viewfinder unless you were vlogging. Not all of your audience are very young..
And if u want to use a flash then u screwed
Yep, screen only with on camera flash.
if u have a glass, then u will hate such thing like that. plus, according to doctor, using one eye long time will increase ur eye inside pressure, it' not health.
seems only America M6 MK2 set has the evf, the market like China and Japan, there is no such thing. (maybe japan have, but very few, not common)
the reason? probaley there are a lot of "old class" photographers in US. (like DP review a guy named Chris.)
but look back at the evf function--do u really need it? someone will say, in the strong sun light. the screen is not clear, evf is essential.
but! how many times in the real life let u holding a camera toward the sun/strong light in high noon? very few time, even for a Pro.
even in such scene, u still don't need worry about the picture. because why? in strong light, the shutter speed is enough, don't need worry sharp issue.
beside, this little things will consume more power instead of screen. plus, it not convienient for packaging in some camera bag.(not a flat any more)
Too expensive, it could be up to 100$.
Its very expensive
I know!
I think it's necessary to buy it, it's just a waste,